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*kryogenix*
post Apr 21 2007, 11:51 PM
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http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2534688

This needs to be closed dudes, since posting pictures of a school shooter is insensitive.

I hope you guys are writing letters to every news outlet telling them that they are insensitive and that they should stop selling their newspapers/broadcasting/running their websites.

Cause it's insensitive.
 
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*Podomaht*
post Apr 21 2007, 11:54 PM
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I was going to post pics of Columbine and Counter-Strike.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 21 2007, 11:54 PM
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How is that against the rules? You guys are pulling rules out of your ass now.
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 21 2007, 11:55 PM
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This place is going fascist.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(r o b b i + @ Apr 22 2007, 12:53 AM) *
No. There's a difference between that post which is reporting the images that the guy sent himself and telling us to post pictures of school shootings and your topic.

What did you intend for us to do?

Google disturbing, bloody photographs and post them on your innocent topic?


What if I need them for a project on school shootings?

And the cosplay thread? What's wrong with that?
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(r o b b i + @ Apr 22 2007, 1:11 AM) *
Post it up in the School subforum and explain why you need em.


I didn't say I needed it for school.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(r o b b i + @ Apr 22 2007, 1:15 AM) *
I was answering to that. sweating.gif


Where did you get that I need this for school from that?
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 1:20 AM) *
Where did you get that I need this for school from that?


She was assuming that's what we ALL thought.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:42 AM
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Damn, when I was a mod, I didn't develop mind reading powers. I wish I did.
 
Simba
post Apr 22 2007, 12:44 AM
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I guess you're going to have to wait for Kaycee on this one.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:46 AM
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Is that the Hakuna Matata person?

Damn, this is going to be strike three if it is.
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 1:44 AM) *
I guess you're going to have to wait for Kaycee on this one.



Here we go with the referring system! Kryo, grab a ticket number; you'll be in for a while.
 
Simba
post Apr 22 2007, 12:47 AM
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Is that the Hakuna Matata person?
Yessir.

She was the one that actually carried out the action, so she would be best fit to answer what she was thinking when she did so.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:48 AM
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It's the DMV all over again.
 
*Monochrome.*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 5:48 AM) *
It's the DMV all over again.

How so?
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(Monochrome. @ Apr 22 2007, 1:53 AM) *
How so?


You must have never been to the DMV for your 2007 stickers or title changes.

In fact, you must have never stepped into a DMV without having to wait in line for three hours.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:57 AM
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I live in Ireland so I no longer have to put up with that. _smile.gif
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(r o b b i + @ Apr 22 2007, 2:12 AM) *
Instead of accusing me that I assume what everyone else is thinking, how about you start making sense in your topics? A while ago you created all those topics with jokes that no one even knew was a joke because you didn't explain anything.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...=157237&hl=

Like that, I'm pretty sure you argued with me about that topic too.

You like to push the envelope. We get it.

Regarding the project comment:
Well, what did you mean by that? rolleyes.gif If you needed them for any type of "project", you generally post in the School forum where people go to help others with assignments, homework, or any sort of "PROJECTS."



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'd ^bump-for-potential if it weren't closed.

Also, I would have discussed burning a faggot. Why are you assuming that noone wants to discuss that, fascist?



-edit

Honestly, all the threads we post pretty much have more intelligence than the threads that are created daily in The Lounge. ( I.e. Cinderella's threads. )
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:16 AM
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Hey, I never got an apology for that thread! I'm sorry you didn't know a bundle of sticks was a faggot. If you don't get it, don't post in it. Isn't it simple?

I'm sorry you didn't watch that movie. Remind me next time you make a Hilary Duff thread to post in saying "OMG I NEVER HEARD THIS WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU DON'T MAKE SENSE."

As for the projects, it's none of your business, knowing what I need it for has no bearing on whether it needs to be closed or not.
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:17 AM
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Honestly, take it easy. It's the internet; there's no need to close EVERY thread just because it's random and pointless.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:17 AM
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What is it that you two want?

Do you want to impeach the entire mod team and start cB over by yourselves? Because all you're doing is picking the mod team apart. Podomaht, I haven't heard anything constructive come from you. At least James has some real input, but you're just hounding me.


I'm calling you guys out on your mistakes. Don't make mistakes, and I stop calling you guys out on it.

If anything, you guys are hounding us. This is our forum to question what you're doing, and you guys are complaining? What next, suddenly the feedback section disappears?
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:18 AM
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FASCISTS!
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:21 AM
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Fine, then move it to school if you want to so badly. It was still wrong to close it.

Also, now you have to find that picture for me, because I deleted it already and you broke the link.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:31 AM
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You're kidding if you think those threads are on the level of "look at my pics" or "do you love me." There are thousands of more inane threads.
 
*Duchess of Dork*
post Apr 22 2007, 08:48 AM
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I'm calling you guys out on your mistakes. Don't make mistakes, and I stop calling you guys out on it.

If anything, you guys are hounding us. This is our forum to question what you're doing, and you guys are complaining? What next, suddenly the feedback section disappears?

Understood. But is there a reason why a new thread has to be created every time? No, we're not going do delete the Feedback Section (nor are we going to delete Feedback threads), but please explain to me why you can't post in the Moderator Feedback thread?

Making thread after thread isn't going to further prove your point, or make your criticisms more profound. Essentially your criticisms will end up feeling splintered and make addressing your issues that much more of a longer process.

We're all ready, willing and able to be "called out" on our mistakes. And no, we're not hounding anyone. We see something, we look at the rules and we make a judgment call based on those rules.

And I'm sorry, but we're going to make mistakes. We try to do our best but ultimately mistakes will happen. If you were to attempt to try to be cordial and communicate in a respectful and calm manner it would make things so much more efficient. No one wants to make your time here miserable, uncomfortable or dissatisfying, but you have to understand that we are all trying.
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 10:14 AM
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It's less mistakes and more along the lines of "look at this guy here and let me show him my awesome mod skills!"


TOPIC CLOSED
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(brownsugar @ Apr 22 2007, 7:32 AM) *
I appreciate the critique. I just wish we could talk to each other on a mature level here. It seems like all your posts come off in a condescending way, an that you're trying to talk down to us instead of trying to help the situation. It could be just me. shrug.gif


Actually it seems like you guys are the ones who are trying to shift focus away from the issue instead of helping.

It's hard not to be condescending when I can't get a straight answer and the mods are doing everything they can NOT to help.

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Understood. But is there a reason why a new thread has to be created every time? No, we're not going do delete the Feedback Section (nor are we going to delete Feedback threads), but please explain to me why you can't post in the Moderator Feedback thread?

Making thread after thread isn't going to further prove your point, or make your criticisms more profound. Essentially your criticisms will end up feeling splintered and make addressing your issues that much more of a longer process.


Yes, because otherwise you guys won't respond. This ensures I get your attention, and clearly it's been working, even though you guys are trying to avoid it.

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We're all ready, willing and able to be "called out" on our mistakes. And no, we're not hounding anyone. We see something, we look at the rules and we make a judgment call based on those rules.


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And I'm sorry, but we're going to make mistakes. We try to do our best but ultimately mistakes will happen. If you were to attempt to try to be cordial and communicate in a respectful and calm manner it would make things so much more efficient. No one wants to make your time here miserable, uncomfortable or dissatisfying, but you have to understand that we are all trying.


So why are the same mistakes made toward the same person?

Again, I'm way past the point of being calm. It's all your fault for this.

Try harder.

Anyway back on topic, tell me why my threads were closed.
 
*Duchess of Dork*
post Apr 22 2007, 10:41 AM
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It's all my fault? Or did you mean that in general?

I just finished reading through this:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=174209

&sigh (if I may). That thread absolutely should have been inquired about before closing. However, it is difficult to send you a PM when you refuse to clear out your Inbox.

And don't ask me to "try harder." You are not my superior in any way, shape or form. I will respond to you, when I am here and as soon as it is possible. You can communicate with people without the condescending tone.

I apologize if that sounds too strong.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 10:43 AM
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I can't really say the real reason why they might of been closed because I wasn't the one who closed them, but I think I can get the jist of why it might've been. There is a difference in informing the truth and mocking it. Judging from the previous topics you've made, the content seems to be a little offensive to the whole Virginia Tech event. As to why so many of them were shut down, probably because you made several topics all relating to one thing. It just seems to me like you have a problem with the whole line of staff. As stated before, you can refer to the Moderator feedback thread.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(Duchess of Dork @ Apr 22 2007, 11:41 AM) *
It's all my fault? Or did you mean that in general?


In general, but you bear additional responsibility since you were/are a headstaff/admin.

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I just finished reading through this:
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=174209

&sigh (if I may). That thread absolutely should have been inquired about before closing. However, it is difficult to send you a PM when you refuse to clear out your Inbox.


As I've been saying backstage, when in doubt, err on the side of leniency. You guys are always assuming and jumping the gun.



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And don't ask me to "try harder." You are not my superior in any way, shape or form. I will respond to you, when I am here and as soon as it is possible. You can communicate with people without the condescending tone.

I apologize if that sounds too strong.


You are responsible for managing the staff. If one member of the staff has made three mistakes in like one week targeting, I have every right to point out that there is something wrong here.

I used to make polite suggestions, but they were ignored. I'll be polite again when you guys deserve to have me talk polite to you. But for now, you should be thankful with what you're getting.

Like it or not, the onus is on YOU, not me, to facilitate constructive discussion pertaining to these matters. If you can prove that you'll be receptive to ideas and criticism, then we can have more nice chats in the future. If you can't, well then the least I can say is that it's going to go downhill from here.

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I can't really say the real reason why they might of been closed because I wasn't the one who closed them, but I think I can get the jist of why it might've been. There is a difference in informing the truth and mocking it. Judging from the previous topics you've made, the content seems to be a little offensive to the whole Virginia Tech event. As to why so many of them were shut down, probably because you made several topics all relating to one thing. It just seems to me like you have a problem with the whole line of staff. As stated before, you can refer to the Moderator feedback thread.


Yeah, it doesn't look like you know what you're talking about.

Anyway, stop bringing this off topic. There's still one more thread that needs to be opened.
 
*I Viddy Horrorshow*
post Apr 22 2007, 12:40 PM
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Has anyone considered that the mods woul db eless likely to be 'facist' if people didn't go out of their way to cause difficulties just to make and then reiterate a point which has been understood several times over and is now merely making the members concerned look ridiculous?
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:44 PM
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Has anyone considered that the mods woul db eless likely to be 'facist' if people didn't go out of their way to cause difficulties just to make and then reiterate a point which has been understood several times over and is now merely making the members concerned look ridiculous?


That's what she said.

And then it turned out I was right.
 
*Duchess of Dork*
post Apr 22 2007, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 12:59 PM) *
Anyway, stop bringing this off topic. There's still one more thread that needs to be opened.

Are you referring to this topic?

If so, then no, it does not need to be reopened. There is no need to stir up unnecessary conflict and controversy by posting pictures of shootings. They also violate PG13 guidelines. By all means, discuss it. There's a gun topic all ready for you guys to do so in (in the Debate Forum), but no pictures of that please.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Duchess of Dork @ Apr 22 2007, 2:54 PM) *
Are you referring to this topic?

If so, then no, it does not need to be reopened. There is no need to stir up unnecessary conflict and controversy by posting pictures of shootings. They also violate PG13 guidelines. By all means, discuss it. There's a gun topic all ready for you guys to do so in (in the Debate Forum), but no pictures of that please.


How is that not PG-13? Indiana Jones was rated PG and they had the Nazi's face completely melt off!

There's plenty of controversy in other topics. The debate topics are the definition of controversy.
 
*Duchess of Dork*
post Apr 22 2007, 04:58 PM
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I'm sorry, Kyro, but no. I appreciate the PG13 film comparison, but those images were not of those killed in real life. I'm sorry. Please feel free to discuss the shootings, but no, you may not keep a thread for the exclusive reason of posting those types of images. Besides the PG13 issues, it stirs up unnecessary conflict and controversy.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 05:03 PM
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So is the evening news not PG-13 anymore?
 
*Duchess of Dork*
post Apr 22 2007, 05:08 PM
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Subjectively to some, no. But we can't control that. I am asking you to please drop this. If you really feel like you should continue fighting, by all means. I respect the passion you have in your convictions, but no, it isn't getting reopened.

I'm really sorry.
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 05:12 PM
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Fine, it's no big deal, there's another topic about it anyway.
 
*Podomaht*
post Apr 22 2007, 08:42 PM
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U GUYS R ALL GAY
 
*kryogenix*
post Apr 22 2007, 08:58 PM
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Show me where I did any of this.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 09:28 PM
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Sorry, I didn't find it. Show me.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 09:31 PM
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Wow, I can't believe the mods are acting like this.

You're not being very helpful.
 

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