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post Mar 11 2007, 12:18 AM
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Are you really honest on this site? Are you really honest with your opinions or do you simply follow in the footsteps of your friends (real life friends or createblog friends)?

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Thought I should at least reply too. Yea I've come to notice I'm really honest on this site. So honest that I've had people actually come to me and say that I'm to honest and I need to make people feel more better about themselves. That was a while ago of course. I just never found the need to actually take the time to make something up that isn't what a really believe or think.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:18 AM
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I am as honest as it gets.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:23 AM
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Ha ha, I think that everyone knows that I don't give a damn about what anyone thinks. Everything I post is exactly from my head alone. ;]
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM
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I'm honest I guess...I don't think I have ever lied. I know for a fact that I make myself look like a "drama queen" alot of the time but I guess thats it. Oh...if none of you already I'm pretty self absorbed since I always have a story about myself to tell LOL (but not to the extreme of course)
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(camcha @ Mar 11 2007, 12:29 AM) *
I'm honest I guess...I don't think I have ever lied. I know for a fact that I make myself look like a "drama queen" alot of the time but I guess thats it. Oh...if none of you already I'm pretty self absorbed since I always have a story about myself to tell LOL (but not to the extreme of course)


You definitely are, I have seen your posts in the relationships section...

QUOTE(salcha4u @ Mar 11 2007, 12:18 AM) *
I am as honest as it gets.


You are... omg, you're just as much of an "a-hole" as I am... XD lol

(I used quotes around a-hole because the term is relative. Meaning, many members might think you're a jerk, but you aren't.)
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:39 AM
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My friends arent on here.. or atleast that i know of.

XD so Im completely honest.

[[ if my friends were on here, id probably post differently, and say i was honest. ]]
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:41 AM
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My friends arent on here.. or atleast that i know of.

XD so Im completely honest.

[[ if my friends were on here, id probably post differently, and say i was honest. ]]


LMAO, at least your honest... XD
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:47 AM
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My friends don't really go on this site, so I'm honest. Unless it deals with experiences and what not. Sometimes, I'm too lazy to say "Oh, that happened to my friend's cousin's wife's brother's dog." so, I just say it was my experience.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:48 AM
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Honest as can be. :)
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:01 AM
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I'm honest.

I don't really see my cb friends post opinions since I don't really hang around the lounge anymore that much, but even if so i'd still be honest.

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post Mar 11 2007, 01:03 AM
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i`m honest. sometimes too honest, but i suppose it`s better than lying.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:06 AM
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Isnt there already a topic like this? I'm not always honest, i'll say something on occasion to rip on someone or start trouble just because. My mind says not to but it just feels so right.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:12 AM
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i know this sounds extrememly bad...but i feel like CB is the only place where i can be true to everyone/
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:30 AM
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Maggie - hug.gif That doesn't sound bad, I bet plenty of people feel the same way. PS- Your signature makes me want to go have ice cream a lot, love the colors of the avatars flowers.gif
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:34 AM
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What if everyone in here is just saying that they are honest because they are agreeing with the person above them... My GOSH... YOU PEOPLE ARE LIKE LEMMINGS!!!
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 11 2007, 5:23 AM) *
Ha ha, I think that everyone knows that I don't give a damn about what anyone thinks. Everything I post is exactly from my head alone. ;]

And sometimes that comes to bite you in the ass.

I am honest on here.But i try to be respectful with my honesty.I am not blunt all the time because being blunt I find at times tasteless.
I admit I sometimes agree with someone just so that trouble dosnt brew up on here.But its stupid I know.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:50 AM
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Meh, Im half and half. Im honest when it comes to simple things, but I fear hurting peoples feelings, so for those cases I just try to be less harsh.
But in the end, people are here to help each other out..and if we can't get an honest opinion..there really isnt any point of coming on here for help.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 02:22 AM
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Honest. Why would I ( or anyone, for that matter ) lie ? Preeeetty pathetic if you lie to try and impress people you don't know, even more so online.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 10 2007, 10:34 PM) *
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What if everyone in here is just saying that they are honest because they are agreeing with the person above them... My GOSH... YOU PEOPLE ARE LIKE LEMMINGS!!!

Haha, lemmings. that's a funny word.


I have no reason to lie here. cB is probably one of the few places i don't lie. although sometimes i am easily swayed in my opinion. pinch.gif
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 09:05 AM
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Yeah, I am honest. There's no point in replying if you're going to lie, so I say what I really think.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 09:06 AM
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i say what i think even though its just something stupid haha
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 09:37 AM
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I don't really have anything to lie about; what I say on here isn't all that interesting anyway, and I acted the same when all my friends were on here too.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE
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What if everyone in here is just saying that they are honest because they are agreeing with the person above them... My GOSH... YOU PEOPLE ARE LIKE LEMMINGS!!!

laugh.gif Nice. I dont even know what a lemming is but thats still funny to me.


I'd have to say i'm pretty honest on here. I might have toned down my opinions some before though, because I can get quite sarcastic at times. mellow.gif
But none of my IRL friends are on here.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:09 PM
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^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming

haha, they kind of look like hamster/guinea pigs
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:11 PM
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I follow the foot steps of my friends mad.gif whistling.gif
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:15 PM
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^ HAHA rofl1.gif
Im honest most of the time
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:16 PM
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I'm honest, and direct. There is no reason to lie, especially given that I am right most of the time.

Although, someone who lies isn't going to say 'i lie', because if they were honest enough to admit to it here, they woul dprobably have been too honest to lie in the first place.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:18 PM
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And thats probably why there isn't many posts. Also guys I didn't really mean for you to follow the footsteps of your friends in real life opinions because well simply put most people don't have real life friends on this site. I meant your createblog friends, the ones you probably spend hours talking to outside of createblog and if they were to post in somewhere doing something wrong or just funny would you back them up 100% even if you felt like it was wrong.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Intercourse. @ Mar 11 2007, 5:18 PM) *
And thats probably why there isn't many posts. Also guys I didn't really mean for you to follow the footsteps of your friends in real life opinions because well simply put most people don't have real life friends on this site. I meant your createblog friends, the ones you probably spend hours talking to outside of createblog and if they were to post in somewhere doing something wrong or just funny would you back them up 100% even if you felt like it was wrong.


That's not really the best way of being a friend, as I see it... but that's a tangent.

Oh and "that's probably why there aren't many posts."
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:26 PM
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I'm honest on here. What's the point in lying online? (Besides you know, if you wanna get some cyber sex and you're a 300 pound guy who lives in your parents' garage.) Or if I'm being sarcastic, but that's different.

I tend to lie IRL sometimes. Usually it's small things like saying I'm not on the phone when my cell is actually underneath my pillow. I also like to exaggerate IRL to see if my friends actually believe me. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:28 PM
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I've only posted a handful of times on this forum...so yes I have been honest. lol. Of course I plan on staying honest too. :)
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 11 2007, 12:16 PM) *
I'm honest, and direct. There is no reason to lie, especially given that I am right most of the time.

Although, someone who lies isn't going to say 'i lie', because if they were honest enough to admit to it here, they woul dprobably have been too honest to lie in the first place.


Yeah, that's exactly why you totally tore me apart two hiring sessions ago when I told Kathleen off... James you party bashed all the time before you were on staff.

It's funny how you say, "Although, someone who lies isn't going to say 'i lie', because if they were honest enough to admit to it here, they would probably have been too honest to lie in the first place." Maybe that's you... :O! Maybe you're too "honest" to lie... haha

LIAR
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 01:50 PM
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How is that an example of him being dishonest?

I'm not "backing anyone up" or anything, so don't flip out; I agree bashing was abundant (and still is, from both sides), I am just failing to see how that is dishonesty.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 03:36 PM
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^ That's exactly what I was just thinking of...

And again, I should point out that, bashing or no bashing, I was right.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 03:40 PM
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I am selectively honest. That does not mean that I lie, but I like to keep my mouth shut and things I instinctively know will cause trouble. That, to some, means that I'm being dishonest by not voicing my opinion, but there's a fine line between being rudely "honest" and being blunt.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 06:38 PM
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That's an interesting question. Style-wise, I tend to follow trends or be inspired by my friends. I usually try to blog about interesting things and I'm always truthful to some degree. (My mom reads my website.)
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 06:39 PM
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post Mar 11 2007, 09:58 PM
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I think I'm pretty honest on here. It's not like I spill everything I'm thinking, but I don't post the opposite of what I think or anything.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 11 2007, 4:36 PM) *
^ That's exactly what I was just thinking of...

And again, I should point out that, bashing or no bashing, I was right.


Maybe you were being honest. I just feel as if you just jumped on the bandwagon with your "friends" so you could make me look like shit. It really pissed me off. That one hiring season is the reason I bash the shit out of you to this very day. I actually cared back then James.



You were right about??
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 11:16 PM
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I lie all the time, because I really want to impress people I don't know over the internet.
 
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post Mar 11 2007, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(brownsugar @ Mar 11 2007, 7:32 PM) *
I think it's funny that some people who are proclaiming their honesty in this thread, aren't being honest! rofl1.gif

Anyway, I'm honest about who I am or how I am. I'm honest about what I think, and how I think things should be run.

But I'm not "bluntly honest", which is a term some people like to use. Sometimes I won't say things in a bluntly honest way, if I know it's really gonna hurt someone's feelings (on here or IRL). I'll either tone it down a bit, or just bite my damn tongue. And other times..I'll just say it how it is.

You can be honest, and still be civil. So since there are exceptions to my honesty, I guess I'm not 100% honest. Neither is anyone else. And I'm being honest victory.gif


I think I should learn a lesson from you Brownsugar. I am probably one of the biggest blunt objects on this site, but at times it's not a good thing.
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 12 2007, 4:00 AM) *
Maybe you were being honest. I just feel as if you just jumped on the bandwagon with your "friends" so you could make me look like shit. It really pissed me off. That one hiring season is the reason I bash the shit out of you to this very day. I actually cared back then James.
You were right about??

I was right about Kathleen.

And no, Josh, I was quite capable of coming to the conclusion indepndently. When several people reach the same conclusion, it doesn't mean that they're following one another, just that the conclusion is glaringly obvious.

And if that thread is the sole reason you feel the need to make a spectacle of yourself, I suggest you get over it.
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 12 2007, 3:16 AM) *
I was right about Kathleen.

And no, Josh, I was quite capable of coming to the conclusion indepndently. When several people reach the same conclusion, it doesn't mean that they're following one another, just that the conclusion is glaringly obvious.

And if that thread is the sole reason you feel the need to make a spectacle of yourself, I suggest you get over it.


What are you talking about? I think you're just taking me out of context. I was just telling why don't like you so hopefully we could look past what happened. Maybe we could talk about it. Maybe we could make things right, but no... you just take another stab at making me look bad.
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 03:55 AM
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James, you suck british bollocks. Go drink some tea at noon and fail to brush your teeth fifteen months in a row. Listen to your Brit rockers pretend to be American, while our Americans pretend to be Brits. Why act so superior when the mother country is worse off than the damned stepchild. You red coat, limy bitch, go eat pickled eggs at an irish pub Gooday Guvna.
 
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QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Mar 12 2007, 8:55 AM) *
James, you suck british bollocks. Go drink some tea at noon and fail to brush your teeth fifteen months in a row. Listen to your Brit rockers pretend to be American, while our Americans pretend to be Brits. Why act so superior when the mother country is worse off than the damned stepchild. You red coat, limy bitch, go eat pickled eggs at an irish pub Gooday Guvna.


HEY I take partial offence to that as I lived in the UK for a good majority of my life and I still live in the UK. XD.gif
Irish pubs dont have pickled eggs,at least the ones that I go to dont.
[And I happen to brush my teeth alot thank you very much. wink.gif ]

Total Rubbish.
 
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QUOTE(brownsugar @ Mar 11 2007, 7:32 PM) *
I think it's funny that some people who are proclaiming their honesty in this thread, aren't being honest! rofl1.gif

THANK YOU.

I've been avoiding this thread because I could smell the stench of hypocrisy before reading any of the posts.

Also, there's a difference between being totally honest and saying sh*t because you know/think it will piss people off.

Shock factor, particularly on internet forums is a trite and dull affair at this point. So is calling people out. NO ONE CARES. rolleyes.gif

And lemmings? You guys do know what they are and how they're used symbolically right? I mean, other than what the all mighty wikipedia provides, that is. whistling.gif (I think the idea is there/here, but again, too commonly used/misused).


QUOTE(ICKY GIRLLL @ Mar 12 2007, 12:16 AM) *
I lie all the time, because I really want to impress people I don't know over the internet.

^ laugh.gif ILU <---- no lie (seriously throb.gif)

My response: Why don't YOU decide? wink.gif

Oh and I'm 5'9, I have long naturally purple hair, green eyes, totally toned body, huge breasts and not one wrinkle. I'm a Goddess. That is no lie. cool.gif
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 09:11 AM
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Ahaha, should I even reply here.. I'm sure people are aware that I'm brutally honest as it is. Hence why most of them don't particularly like me.
 
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QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Mar 12 2007, 9:11 AM) *
Ahaha, should I even reply here.. I'm sure people are aware that I'm brutally honest as it is. Hence why most of them don't particularly like me.


I know you're honest... I have witnessed your honesty... xD

Rebecca, the only reason I reffered to some of the members as lemmings is because people here on cB tend to blindly follow eachother in agreement. I'm comparing members on cB to the lemming's "mass suicide" myth.
 
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QUOTE(krnxswat @ Mar 11 2007, 12:11 PM) *
I follow the foot steps of my friends mad.gif whistling.gif

Ha. :P

I'll be the first to admit that I don't always speak what's on my mind (lying by omission is still a lie) but I won't flat out say something I don't mean. If I don't think I'd be able to say what I'm really thinking, I don't say anything at all, which is why it's so hard for me to be confronted in person I think. I do think I've gotten better over the last couple of years, as I've come across a couple of situations that made me realize I was letting myself get walked on and I'm trying harder to speak up. I tend to worry about hurting people's feelings too much, and that's something I've kinda just had to get over.
 
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QUOTE(Libertie @ Mar 12 2007, 12:22 PM) *
Ha. :P

I'll be the first to admit that I don't always speak what's on my mind (lying by omission is still a lie) but I won't flat out say something I don't mean. If I don't think I'd be able to say what I'm really thinking, I don't say anything at all, which is why it's so hard for me to be confronted in person I think. I do think I've gotten better over the last couple of years, as I've come across a couple of situations that made me realize I was letting myself get walked on and I'm trying harder to speak up. I tend to worry about hurting people's feelings too much, and that's something I've kinda just had to get over.


It's good to admitt things like that... if you never admitt to it, you will never stop. :]
 
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^Yeah, sad thing is I've known all along and never really cared to change it. ._.
 
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QUOTE(Libertie @ Mar 12 2007, 1:30 PM) *
^Yeah, sad thing is I've known all along and never really cared to change it. ._.


Meh, changeing yourself is hard, and the only time you should ever change yourself is for yourself. If you don't care... nothing is gong to happen. XD Don't beat yourself up, it's never to late to start.

I have things that I'm working on too. We all have our flaws. ;]
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 12 2007, 8:48 AM) *
What are you talking about? I think you're just taking me out of context. I was just telling why don't like you so hopefully we could look past what happened. Maybe we could talk about it. Maybe we could make things right, but no... you just take another stab at making me look bad.
I didn't take anything out of context, I responded directly to what you said. And I'm not trying to make you look bad. I don't need to. But it's nice to see the victim complex going strong.

And Jeremy, be quiet... you're at least generally witty, and you can do better than that.
 
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ugh... I will edit this later... :]
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 04:34 PM
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James and Josh quit it now please. If you want to talk further on this just PM each other.
 
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QUOTE(I Viddy Horrorshow @ Mar 12 2007, 4:55 PM) *
I didn't take anything out of context, I responded directly to what you said. And I'm not trying to make you look bad. I don't need to. But it's nice to see the victim complex going strong.

And Jeremy, be quiet... you're at least generally witty, and you can do better than that.


James, I did feel like a victim. I feel like I was a victim of my own honesty. During that hiring season you were the biggest prick in the world to me. I feel as if I was never honest about my opinions you would have never been such a dick to me. I feel as if I had just agreed with everyone else (a.k.a. Not said anything negative.) and if I had been nice you and your "friends" then you wouldn't have said any of the shit you said to me.

I was never a jerk to the members of this site until that point. You and your friends pissed me off so bad, and people told me not to care. People told me over and over again that I shouldn't care what people say to me on the internet because it doesn't matter. "Grow thicker skin.", Now people are upset because I don't care. So, I'm trying to make things right, and the minute I feel like I should care. You remind me of every reason I don't. I don't care because the things that you say would really effect the way I feel.

Maybe I shouldn't have taken revenge. After all, revenge is never a good thing. I'm sorry for taking revenge on you James. I'm sorry for ever talking to you. I should have ignored everything you ever said to me. It's unfortunate for me that you're one of the most "popular" figures on cB, and it's unfortunate that I cared about this site when you offended me.

You know, I was wrong about Kathleen, and I personally apologized for what I said to her after she was removed from staff. But I will not apologize to her for what I said in that hiring thread. I meant every word. Here is what I posted.

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Kathleen - seems power hungry, she has made entire topics devoted to what I consider ratting people out... she also constantly talk about how the job hasn't been getting done... I'm worried that she will be a major tyrant, and thorn in our sides... application seems pretty conceited I'm a supervisor at my job in crossgates mall, and I throw out applications like this... I feel that people like this start problems in the work place.

It may seem like i dislike you Kathleen, but... truth is, I feel like you advertise yourself... You rat people out for things, tell mods to close topics, and talk about how great you are all the time... it's rediculous... I don't hate you, I just don't like how you carry yourself, and I don't see anyone else asking for the position acting the way you do... i question your ability to be a staff member even though you have been one in the past. I believe being a staff member is something that needs to be earned by having a professional attitude. I don't think you have that. Then again, I am only stating my opinion, and will not be offended by your opinion of me.


Is that really offensive enough to ravage me on the forums? I even put a disclaimer in the post saying that I didn't hate her. It was as if I had triggered a land-slide of insults... YES JAMES I FEEL LIKE A VICTIM. If I didn't feel like you attacked me I wouldn't have hated on you so much.

Ever sense that post I have received nothing but grief from you, and you have received nothing but grief from me. Here I am being honest about how I feel, and you're "calling me out" in an attempt to publicly make me look bad. I'm just so sick of it.

You're on peoples staff... don't you think that someone from people staff should have a good understanding of conflict management. I sure do. You're working with people. I have finally made a move to make things right between us by expressing my feelings towards the way you treated me, and you just use it to make me look like shit. I'm so sick of you James. All I'm trying to do is level with you. I feel as if you're fighting with me.

*I am pissed, this is the first time in a while... I actually care again... This is why I don't care about what anyone thinks when I post... Because when you start caring it becomes real.*
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 05:32 PM
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I'm honest. I can be really blunt. Sometimes in real life I'll offend people, but I'm just being honest. I don't have friends on cb, so I don't have anyone to go along with. There's a difference with being honesty and blatant.
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 07:57 PM
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At first thought I would say I have always tried to post honestly here at first, although that may not assure my posts do follow a unique coherent line. In other words, I try to post what I do feel and think at the moment of writing even though the product of said effort may differ from something I might have posted in the past.

Then again, following a general style doesn't mean the same specific result will be achieved over and over; which is in fact why all Pavement albums are so awesome, but that'd be another subject.

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*I am pissed, this is the first time in a while... I actually care again... This is why I don't care about what anyone thinks when I post... Because when you start caring it becomes real.*


There's a middle ground between caring and being affected by the stuff that goes on in here. Admittedly, it can be a thin line sometimes, but nonetheless it's worth the effort to try to stand behind it as long as it's humanly possible to do so.

It may not always make the person/s you're exchanging posts with to calm down, but it allows you to stay cool and not say things that you have to regret later while still getting your point across.

In reference to this topic and to something you told me a few weeks ago; it is possible to be honest and leave sufficient outlet for happiness, anger, joy or whatever it is that one may be feeling at the moment while trying to keep things under some sort of control.

It's kind of staying in the middle of "f**k you all bastards, this is the Internet" and "Holy shit, I hope they don't get pissed off at my Snoopy themed signature"
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 12 2007, 7:57 PM) *
At first thought I would say I have always tried to post honestly here at first, although that may not assure my posts do follow a unique coherent line. In other words, I try to post what I do feel and think at the moment of writing even though the product of said effort may differ from something I might have posted in the past.

Then again, following a general style doesn't mean the same specific result will be achieved over and over; which is in fact why all Pavement albums are so awesome, but that'd be another subject.

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There's a middle ground between caring and being affected by the stuff that goes on in here. Admittedly, it can be a thin line sometimes, but nonetheless it's worth the effort to try to stand behind it as long as it's humanly possible to do so.

It may not always make the person/s you're exchanging posts with to calm down, but it allows you to stay cool and not say things that you have to regret later while still getting your point across.

In reference to this topic and to something you told me a few weeks ago; it is possible to be honest and leave sufficient outlet for happiness, anger, joy or whatever it is that one may be feeling at the moment while trying to keep things under some sort of control.

It's kind of staying in the middle of "f**k you all bastards, this is the Internet" and "Holy shit, I hope they don't get pissed off at my Snoopy themed signature"


Ugh.. you have no idea how hard I'm trying...
 
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post Mar 12 2007, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 13 2007, 3:16 AM) *
Ugh.. you have no idea how hard I'm trying...


Took me a year, give or take, to go from "shut your piehole, rampaging idiot" to "I disagree".
 
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Took me a year, give or take, to go from "shut your piehole, rampaging idiot" to "I disagree".


Well, it's almost been that long.. >.>
 
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James, I did feel like a victim. I feel like I was a victim of my own honesty. During that hiring season you were the biggest prick in the world to me. I feel as if I was never honest about my opinions you would have never been such a dick to me. I feel as if I had just agreed with everyone else (a.k.a. Not said anything negative.) and if I had been nice you and your "friends" then you wouldn't have said any of the shit you said to me.

I was never a jerk to the members of this site until that point. You and your friends pissed me off so bad, and people told me not to care. People told me over and over again that I shouldn't care what people say to me on the internet because it doesn't matter. "Grow thicker skin.", Now people are upset because I don't care. So, I'm trying to make things right, and the minute I feel like I should care. You remind me of every reason I don't. I don't care because the things that you say would really effect the way I feel.

Maybe I shouldn't have taken revenge. After all, revenge is never a good thing. I'm sorry for taking revenge on you James. I'm sorry for ever talking to you. I should have ignored everything you ever said to me. It's unfortunate for me that you're one of the most "popular" figures on cB, and it's unfortunate that I cared about this site when you offended me.

You know, I was wrong about Kathleen, and I personally apologized for what I said to her after she was removed from staff. But I will not apologize to her for what I said in that hiring thread. I meant every word. Here is what I posted.
Is that really offensive enough to ravage me on the forums? I even put a disclaimer in the post saying that I didn't hate her. It was as if I had triggered a land-slide of insults... YES JAMES I FEEL LIKE A VICTIM. If I didn't feel like you attacked me I wouldn't have hated on you so much.

Ever sense that post I have received nothing but grief from you, and you have received nothing but grief from me. Here I am being honest about how I feel, and you're "calling me out" in an attempt to publicly make me look bad. I'm just so sick of it.

You're on peoples staff... don't you think that someone from people staff should have a good understanding of conflict management. I sure do. You're working with people. I have finally made a move to make things right between us by expressing my feelings towards the way you treated me, and you just use it to make me look like shit. I'm so sick of you James. All I'm trying to do is level with you. I feel as if you're fighting with me.

*I am pissed, this is the first time in a while... I actually care again... This is why I don't care about what anyone thinks when I post... Because when you start caring it becomes real.*

Dudem what on Earth did we even say to you? Because frankly, if I can barely remember the incident at all, and nothing whatsoever of what was said, it can't have been that bad.

This whole thing just reminds me of people who complain that people don't like them in spite of the fact that they are 'just being themselves'. Yes, you were honest, fine. We were honest back. As I've said, and people have said before, get over it.

And as for disliking you, I don't, really. You're genuinely not interesting enough to dislike, because a good chunk of whatever I see you say is always related to peopl enot liking you. You just made a thread about it, for goodness sake. It's just pure self-obsession, and I'm not interested. I don't hate you, certainly, and I don't go out of my way to step on your toes. But if you stick your toes out where I'm walking, they get stepped on.

And as for conflict management, firstly I hardly think this is worhty of the title of conflict, but that nonwthstanding, I feel I've handled you rather well, whcih is what others have told me, and also, there comes a time when the only way to end a conflict is for you to take it away. You don't like the way I handle whatever issue it is you think I have with you, then stop perpetuating it.

And I'm done with this conversation now, because unless something remarkable happens, it's going to go in the same old circles.
 
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Dudem what on Earth did we even say to you? Because frankly, if I can barely remember the incident at all, and nothing whatsoever of what was said, it can't have been that bad.

This whole thing just reminds me of people who complain that people don't like them in spite of the fact that they are 'just being themselves'. Yes, you were honest, fine. We were honest back. As I've said, and people have said before, get over it.

And as for disliking you, I don't, really. You're genuinely not interesting enough to dislike, because a good chunk of whatever I see you say is always related to peopl enot liking you. You just made a thread about it, for goodness sake. It's just pure self-obsession, and I'm not interested. I don't hate you, certainly, and I don't go out of my way to step on your toes. But if you stick your toes out where I'm walking, they get stepped on.

And as for conflict management, firstly I hardly think this is worhty of the title of conflict, but that nonwthstanding, I feel I've handled you rather well, whcih is what others have told me, and also, there comes a time when the only way to end a conflict is for you to take it away. You don't like the way I handle whatever issue it is you think I have with you, then stop perpetuating it.

And I'm done with this conversation now, because unless something remarkable happens, it's going to go in the same old circles.


In that thread all you did was insult my intelligence and grammar/spelling skills, but you didn't do it in a way that was constructive. You insulted me in front of the entire community. You did it to make me look bad. It sure seems like you go out of your way to make me look bad James. It seems like that's all you do is step on my toes and I'm so friggin sick of it. That's what you do.

Even in this post, I feel like you go out of your way to insult my personality by calling me self-righteous, or turn what I'm trying to do around so I look bad. It always seems like a personal attack with you James. I will admit to doing the same. It's this circle of personal attacks that flying at each other. I would just like it to end, but I want to end up on the right foot too.

You have this perception of me that just isn't true (I'm self-obsessed), and every post I make you hold me to this expectation you have, taking it out of context. It seems like you read everything I post as if I'm this self-righteous a-hole. I'm not trying to make a spectical of myself. I'm just trying to resolve this. I might sound self-righteous, but I guarantee you that I'm not.

You're wrong James, it is a conflict Jame. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU. That's a conflict. To me it just feels like you're consistently being clever with words in an attempt to make me look bad. I feel like your putting on a show for your friends. I don't feel like it's the best way to resolve something.

You're right, there does come a time in a conflict when you have to take it away. Maybe you don't want to resolve anything. It takes two to resolve things, and when one isn't willing to do it. It never happens.

Look, I'll admit that I shouldn't have said a lot of the things I said to you, and I'm sorry. I'll admit that most of the time I antagonize you, but this time I swear, I'm not. Please, just stop having holding this defensive position, and start being real with me. ermm.gif

P.S. Don't you think that acting like I'm a waste of time is a bit of a self-righteous attitude? I'm trying to work things out with you... personally I just don't find that to be self righteous.
 
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Ok, now it's just getting personal. If you can settle your personal issues (or not, I see it's not going to be easy) and keep them both out of your posts and this thread, it would be appreciated.
 
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A conflict is two-sided. This is just bluster.

And mona, aye-aye cap'n
 
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post Mar 13 2007, 01:15 PM
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That's dumb that people said that you shouldn't be so honest. Gay.

Yes, I'm honest. It's the internet, why not be honest? It's not like you have to stare some one in the face five feet away.

I'm pretty much honest in RL too. Some what. Maybe a little. Actually not that much. Hahahhaha.
 
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cB lets me feel open about anything.

I feel the same way. I don't really feel the need to lie on an internet forum when I am most likely never going to meet any of you. Like Jane said, I am sometimes too lazy to explain who was in the situation and might just say it was me, but I don't really consider it lying.

I also feel as though there is a difference between honesty and being blunt. Some people are blunt to make it seem as though they are honest, while others of us (like myself, James, Josh etc) are just actually asses tongue.gif
 
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im pretty honest. i got a few most blunt votes before. if i wasnt, cb would be lame.
 
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im pretty honest. i got a few most blunt votes before. if i wasnt, cb would be lame.


I agree... *sigh*
 
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Much of truth is subjective, so why should it matter if we're honest or not? What matter really is the reasoning behind decisions/opinions and how we present ourselves and our arguments because that is what other people will believe/judge.
 
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i am reali honest

answer this.....

what is better to tell a lie to draw a smile or tell the truth to draw a tear??

in most situations i woul dtell the truth
 

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