Snape: Good or Evil?, A little "friendly" discussion about the true ways of ol' |
 Jan 7 2007, 08:38 PM
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Well, I have read an article at http://mugglenet.com and I have become semi-convinced that Snape is portraying a facade to all but Dumbledore. I also agree that Dumbledore was not begging for HIS life in his death scene, but for Harry's (two brooms = Snape's not an idiot).
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Jan 7 2007, 09:09 PM
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 Krista. Group: Official Member Posts: 4,380 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 391,319 |
Hm....well, I've always thought of him as evil. Examples:
1) Once was a Death Eater 2) Still refers to Voldemort as the "Dark Lord," as Death Eaters do 3) Killed off Dumbledore |
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Jan 7 2007, 09:15 PM
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RJL<3 Group: Member Posts: 1,194 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 71,019 |
He's Evillll. I have no reasoning. i just dislike snape in general and i get that vibe from him.
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Jan 7 2007, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(marzipan @ Jan 7 2007, 6:09 PM)  Hm....well, I've always thought of him as evil. Examples: 1) Once was a Death Eater 2) Still refers to Voldemort as the "Dark Lord," as Death Eaters do 3) Killed off Dumbledore Once was a Death Eater >>> was spying for Dumbledore Still refers to Voldy as the "Dark Lord" >>> an obvious way to keep his cover Killed off Dumbledore >>> he had no choice but to make the Unbreakable Vow in his situation, so he had to kill Dumbledore, which we all knew was going to happen eventually anyways Any other examples? |
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Jan 11 2007, 12:56 AM
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 my michelle. Group: Member Posts: 792 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 267,094 |
Just simply the way he hates Harry & his family and totally favors Slytherins means he's got something to do with them. and obviously, many Slytherin's parents were Death Eaters.
edited/ although Snape is conspicuously bad, the stories usually end with the bad guy really as someone you'd never thought it'd be. So Snape won't be one of the 'ultimate' bad guys in the end, i guarantee it. |
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| *I Shot JFK* |
Jan 11 2007, 06:15 PM
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Snape is a good guy.
End of. |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:17 PM
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 i lost weight with Mulder! Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,070 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 79,019 |
i think that while snape's motives may not be purely good, I do think that he is working to stop voldemort.
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| *Duchess of Dork* |
Jan 11 2007, 06:25 PM
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Snape = Bad = TOO OBVIOUS
:D He made the Unbreakable Vow and had to kill Dumbledore. I do not think, even being as weak as he was at the time of his death he would have ever begged for his life. That just wasn't fiesty old Albus. It just wasn't. |
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| *I Shot JFK* |
Jan 11 2007, 06:31 PM
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FOR REAL!
I mean, how much BETTER will the book be if harry has to work with snape in the end? Rowling knows her charactrs too well to make it a simple 'harry gets revenge on snape' thing |
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| *mona lisa* |
Jan 11 2007, 06:41 PM
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Snape just cannot be completely evil. It's obvious that he dislikes Harry so much because of past events with James Potter but other than that, he's doing a great job of keeping his personal/real motives hidden. He works on and with both sides but we haven't really been sufficient clues as to WHICH side he's really on. We can all speculate until the seventh book comes out. :D
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| *I Shot JFK* |
Jan 11 2007, 06:50 PM
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I bet Snape is really Harry's dad...
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| *mona lisa* |
Jan 11 2007, 06:58 PM
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Nah. Rowling can't do that. Though that would certainly be interesting.
She wouldn't dare. 
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| *kryogenix* |
Jan 11 2007, 08:34 PM
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HEY! SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDORE!
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Jan 11 2007, 08:46 PM
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This ones a toughie. In a way, I think that he's good. But afterall, he killed DUMBLEDORE.
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Jan 11 2007, 08:48 PM
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i lost weight with Mulder! Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,070 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 79,019 |
^only because of the unbreakable vow.
most likely, dumbledore knew about the unbreakable vow, and asked severus to do it so draco wouldn't have to. he knew draco wouldn't, which is why he was pleading for snape to kill him. |
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| *I Shot JFK* |
Jan 11 2007, 08:49 PM
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Mmm... he had no choice about the unbreakable vow and killing dumbledore... harsh, but not REALLY his fault
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Jan 11 2007, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 11 2007, 6:50 PM) I bet Snape is really Harry's dad... That would be something, wouldn't it?
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Jan 12 2007, 04:57 PM
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 Lauren :D Group: Member Posts: 2,105 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 176,997 |
I bet Dumbledore made Snape kill him, like to show Voldemort that he's on his side just so he could spy on him and get info for the Order, so that then they could go and kick some Voldy ass.
 Just a suspicion. |
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Jan 12 2007, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 11 2007, 8:34 PM) HEY! SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDORE! Shhhhhhhhhh...You'll wake up the kids! Well technically, Snape made Snape killed Dumbledore by suggesting the Unbreakable Vow.  Still, that was to prove a point and I don't think it was what he really wanted to happen. Oh and James, ewwww to Snape being Papa Harry Potter. You just made me lose my dinner. (jk) This thread is starting to bum me out. After the next book, nothing to speculate. Although, we can always make our own decisions on the fates of our beloved characters. Go fanfic! rofl |
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| *I Shot JFK* |
Jan 12 2007, 06:24 PM
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Well, Snape didnt necessarily KNOW what malfoy's job was to be when he vowed to help him...
and i am going to MISS this thread... imagine how tense and hyper this will get around June time... Eee! |
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Jan 13 2007, 07:57 PM
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I think Snape is good.
He just has to act evil to help The Order. |
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| ***Lucy** |
Jan 14 2007, 08:13 AM
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Snape is evil. If he wasn't why the hell he helped Voldemort and he killed Dumbledore????
 God, I still can't believe that Dumbledore is dead 
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Jan 14 2007, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 11 2007, 11:50 PM) I bet Snape is really Harry's dad... you take that back  thats a horrible thing to say. but that would actualy be very funny |
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| ***Lucy** |
Jan 14 2007, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(a painefull euphoria @ Jan 14 2007, 3:42 PM) you take that back thats a horrible thing to say. but that would actualy be very funny OF COURSE IT IS A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND IT WOULDN'T BE FUNNY AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Jan 14 2007, 04:37 PM
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^Lets go beat james with a stick untill he takes it back
Just kidding. |
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| ***Lucy** |
Jan 14 2007, 04:41 PM
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^
 though it's not a bad idea   just kidding of course. Snape is the most dubious character so i won't be surprised if he actually is Harry's dad. But i still hate him.
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| *I Shot JFK* |
Jan 15 2007, 06:47 PM
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I prefer Snape to Harry.
At least Snape is OPENLY unpleasant. i can't deal with Harry the Hormone Factory. |
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Jan 15 2007, 07:02 PM
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 Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 11 2007, 11:50 PM) I bet Snape is really Harry's dad... Well that would be an interesting way to end the series.
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Jan 15 2007, 07:04 PM
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LOL Harry the Hormone Factory...
The most annoying and most boring part of the fifth book (?) was the time around Valentine's Day. I couldn't stand to continue reading. ---- I remember finding a fanfic where the seventh book was written in the perspective of Snape's daughter and she got into Gryffindor. |
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Jan 16 2007, 07:11 AM
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^ i read something similar but it was voldemorts daughter.
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Jan 16 2007, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(a painefull euphoria @ Jan 16 2007, 7:11 AM) ^ i read something similar but it was voldemorts daughter. Wow. That would be much more interesting than Snape having a daughter.
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Jan 16 2007, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jan 16 2007, 1:47 AM) I prefer Snape to Harry. At least Snape is OPENLY unpleasant. i can't deal with Harry the Hormone Factory. ^  
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Jan 16 2007, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 16 2007, 12:04 AM) LOL Harry the Hormone Factory... The most annoying and most boring part of the fifth book (?) was the time around Valentine's Day. I couldn't stand to continue reading. ---- I remember finding a fanfic where the seventh book was written in the perspective of Snape's daughter and she got into Gryffindor. It's SO true though, haha. And yea, i know what you mean... Just angst much. it doesnt take THAT much stress to work things out with a girl, really. |
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Jan 16 2007, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(mona lisa @ Jan 16 2007, 4:42 PM) Wow. That would be much more interesting than Snape having a daughter. actualy i read it on quizilla  and her name is "jade" kinda cute since the jade stone is green along with slytherins colors and snakes i guess. lol |
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Jan 29 2007, 10:44 PM
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mood: content Group: Member Posts: 2,063 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 42,325 |
I'll be honest, I didn't read this whole thread. >_>
I think Snape is good. I had some really good reasons why but I forgot... Heh heh.... ^_^ I did like research though! (Yeah I'm THAT lame) |
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Feb 2 2007, 09:41 AM
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Hmm...so many different opinions. But does anybody have any proof or evidence or WHATEVER - deep breath - besides Dumbledore's death? There has to be something else on this board.
What about when Snape saved Harry's life in the first book? |
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Feb 2 2007, 10:15 AM
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 D.L.A Group: Member Posts: 82 Joined: Jan 2007 Member No: 499,537 |
^He saved Harry's life because James Potter had saved his life when they were classmates.
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Feb 2 2007, 07:20 PM
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^ I know. But he hated James. Why would he even want to repay his debt? I'm sure he'd be perfectly happy ignoring life's debts if he was Voldemort's man. And that brings us to Wormtail. I wonder how/if he'll repay his debt to Harry.
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Feb 3 2007, 11:28 PM
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well, i only read the books, i don't sit around thinking about this stuff in depth, if i did i would drive myself crazy. so i don't have any particular personal opinion of my own, but i think that J.K. Rowling makes it seem like Snape is evil, i mean he killed Dumbledore! but i could see some sort of plot twist where Snape's actions were really because he is good and not evil. i don't know, i probably don't make sense...
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Feb 4 2007, 01:20 AM
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^ You make perfect sense to me =) That's exactly what I'm saying.
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Feb 5 2007, 09:40 PM
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<3 Group: Member Posts: 183 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 390,880 |
i don't have any particular personal opinion of my own
lol i sound redundant. but i'm glad i make sense to someone =) |
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Feb 16 2007, 05:04 PM
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 Yawn Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,530 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,772 |
sigh, he is evilllllllll.
but i mean, it would be a nice plot twist in the 7th book. you know, snape being good and all and saving harry or what not. but i'd more like to know why dumbledore trusted him. and still. . . no, i don't think he can be good. he killed an awesome character. you just don't do that. no |
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Feb 17 2007, 09:24 PM
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I always switch thinking if he's evil or good depending on the things he pulls so I've decided he's working for himself. But I think he's more evil than good.
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Jan 5 2008, 01:04 AM
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Evil. I think Snape was a bullied, unsociable kid growing up, who loved Lily but watched her ride off into the sunset with the hero Quidditch player James. Of course, anyone would turn to the dark side of the force after that bs, but I think after death dealing for so long and Volde's fall, he wanted to atone for his sins. He stayed completely loyal to Dumble to try and forgive himself. But honest now, leaving the fate of the wizarding world on Harry's shoulders to face Volde, I think he still wished the worst for the son of his bitter enemy.
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Jan 5 2008, 03:40 AM
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Aw, but what about all those fangirl fantasies where you can convert the Big Bad into the Large Good?
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Jan 7 2008, 04:34 PM
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have u guys read the last book?
i nearlly spoiled it for you if you hadnt :/ x |
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Jan 8 2008, 10:18 AM
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 I just like to smile, smiling's my favorite :-) Group: Official Member Posts: 3,008 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 601,399 |
QUOTE(marzipan @ Jan 7 2007, 09:09 PM) Hm....well, I've always thought of him as evil. Examples: 1) Once was a Death Eater 2) Still refers to Voldemort as the "Dark Lord," as Death Eaters do 3) Killed off Dumbledore i really dont like him......... 
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