"Designing with the Stars", Take Joe-I-Can't-Design/Code-Crap and make him/her design... Options

[*Duchess of Dork*]

This came up because I was banging my head against the wall trying to figure out ways to graphically contribute here (other than my silly icons), so I posted the following Backstage and thought I would bring it up here as well to see what folks here in the Community thought of it:

I am so ignorant when it comes to creating a layout. I almost feel that as the only HeadStaff that cannot do this, we should have some type of "Dancing with the Stars" type thing where someone takes a person that can't dance, well, in this case, do a layout, pair with them and at the end of the show they can do a killer layout!

After a little encouragement, ranting continued:

Who knows though, it could be fun to see folks paired up with some of our infamous designers (such as Rachael, Carrie, Kristina (although I know she's very busy right now), Kathleen, Ryan, et al). Could even put up AIM transcriptions of the star designer trying to coach the learner on how to design (if so desired).

Any thoughts? (Oh and sorry for pointing certain super designers out, I know there are more than those, but they are the first to came to mind that morning).

[KissMe2408]

This is a great idea actually, One of you hott shots can teach me how to make a layout or vector. lol. Though I guess there'd have to be guidelines on how much the "star" can help out and such...

[Gypsy Eyes]

Aw this is such a good idea

[*digital.fragrance*]

This is a really good idea!

[technicolour]

Aw man, this is such a cool idea.

I so WISH I could be apart of this. Really. This would be *so* cool.

[Mulder]

that sounds pretty cool? would the "stars" be limited to mods, or what?

anyway, it sounds very entertaining.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

^ Oh DEFINITELY not limited to mods. :)

[OhMyAnniee]

I love this idea! I have no idea how to make layouts.

So would there be more than one pair? Or is it just a "lucky winner" thing?

[*mona lisa*]

No fun in limiting it only to one pair. :) Perhaps there could be some length of time where the "star" helps the "starlette" and then all pairs showcase their layouts in one place (or separate threads, wherever).

[Simba]

I really like this idea, since the person who can't design, will probably be able to make some great stuff by the time this ends. I know I'd like to learn.

[*digital.fragrance*]

How would we teach them? It's hard to do that remotely... and the programs have to be compatible.

[*mona lisa*]

How would we teach them? It's hard to do that remotely... and the programs have to be compatible.

If this goes through, it'll have to be set up so that both in one pair have the same programs to work with. By teaching, I guess helping them come up with a central idea, colors, navigation, graphics, etc. And helping with the coding since the "stars" shouldn't be doing the work for them. I guess guide them by telling them where to find particular resources, and how/why to modify codes based on what they want to achieve.

Is it a "choose your partner" thing or is it randomly chosen by the contest-holder?

Hasn't been decided yet. Feel free to support whichever idea.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

This is very much still in the 'thought' stages. :) So please provide any suggestions and ideas you'd like. ;)

[Simba]

How would we teach them? It's hard to do that remotely... and the programs have to be compatible.

My first thought was over some kind of messenger, and a lot of file transfers. That'd be kinda rough though, huh.

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ That's what I was thinking. We'd have to be on the compy at the same time to produce the best result...

[Simba]

Right, so you'd have to grab some really active people, or plan it together.

And besides an instant messenger, I guess there's cell phones or Skype.

[jumpropeforheart]

count me in and...

I CALL MIKE!

which i need to talk to you btw

[freeflow]

On the partner choosing situation:
Oddly, I think it would be more exciting if the partner wasn't chosen. That way everyone has a partner and no one has to go through the trouble of finding one. Plus I find it to be more exciting that way.

[*salcha4u*]

Yeah, random partners sound good. I'm up :)

[Stefanny]

AAAH! EEEK! I totally love this idea. I'm definitely in for this.

Oh right, I think it'd be awesome if we got paired up randomly. Only because it's for the fun of it; we get a person we might not know so well & teach them all we know :]

[*salcha4u*]

What about people like me that can only design and do little/limited coding? There's no line to really split down teh middle between designer and non designer.

[freeflow]

A coding part is going to be added? . That might be a little hard for people. But if a coding part is added:

Well I think that if it happens a list of resources can be added to help you guys out with the coding. Resources as in sites with css stylesheets (if you need it), sites with table tutorials, div tutorials, etc. To make it easy. Or templates can be made. (Without the image ofcourse) with a basic stylesheet and tables , or a basic stylesheet and divs, etc. Different combos.

But I find that part might be a little hard. About the split between no designer and non designer. I think the design should count more over anything. So you guys should atleast be able to split the design in half? or atleast help each other out. Then maybe you guys can discuss how you want it coded (if coding is going to be added as part of the contest.) , and the person that has the most experience could do the majority of the stuff and the person that has limited knowledge can do simple things like css (adding colors etc. Which can be learned pretty easily).

Thats just an Idea if coding has to be done.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

Well coding was actually a big part of the idea. Several decisions would have to be made. One major one of course would be what type of site. My Space? Xanga? Blogger? Etc.

I think if certain stages would be good -

Stage 1 - Concept
This might be where the contestants are given a theme and in this stage they would create a header and/or background.

Stage 2 – Design
This might be where the contestant and the mentor would come up with a site ‘blueprint’, which hopefully, to the luck of the mentor will not be something completely ridiculous to code.

Stage 3 – Code
This I think should be the most team-y effort of all. What might make it easier is to make sure the designs are as simple as possible, and then sort of having the mentor give templates out and the rookie coder will then need to sort of put the pieces (scripts) of the puzzle (site) together.

Again, just some thoughts and please, those with experience tweak this idea especially since this is coming from someone with a considerable lack of coding experience. ;)

[Mulder]

well... would all our layouts follow general guidelines then? I know that some designers like to go...outside the box. During the concept stage, would there be limits to the design, for example, a 2 columned layout?

[freeflow]

^ Maybe per round there can be a diff style. Like 2 column one time and change it differently.

I think it sounds like a great idea. Maybe it can be website coding over xanga, blogger, and myspace.

[*Infinite.*]

Doesn't sound bad, is this only going to be for like xanga layouts, or any?

[jumpropeforheart]

i dont know if this is what toya was getting at, but from my limited knowledge of the show, every round they perform a new dance. now, i know not all the "celebrities" of cB know how to do a layout/coding for every type of blogging network, but that could be the challenge. it probably can be assumed that the actual dancers on the show aren't familiar with every type of dance they do, but they still do it, which is why i thought about the different blogging systems..

[OhMyAnniee]

Why don't you do a pair for each site?

I mean, some people just excel at Xanga and others MySpace, etc.

EDIT: So can't you just start with say, graphics? And then each round make it higher so that by the time it's the final two couples, they would have to create an ultimate layout or something like that?

[Gypsy Eyes]

That would get boring though

[demolished]

Can we have a title ?

[jumpropeforheart]

Can we have a title ?

uh...designing with the stars?

[*Kathleen*]

Aww.. I'm a 'celebrity' designer? *Feels special* This is cool. I'd feel bad about letting people down, but if we start in January or something, I should be okay.. since all my college applications would/should be done. Uhh.. and personally, I'd be more comfortable with doing MySpace, Xanga, and Blogger.. I'm not as comfortable with websites (although I can do them).

[*mona lisa*]

I'm thinking we tackle this one aspect at a time since this doesn't sound easy in terms or organization.

Let's start off simple.

All one blog site or several at one time? If the former, pairs would be set up to make a layout for a specific blog. Then, it would be another blog. If the latter, many pairs would have to be set up so that one does MySpace, another does Xanga, another does website, and so on.

I like having all/several at one time.

Please please provide feedback and/or ideas! :D

[*Duchess of Dork*]

I like the idea of having multiple sites, however, the problem is I see is that how then would they be judged against eachother due to the differences in complexity of designing each type of site?

[GREASEbaby]

^Yeah.While reading this thread I thought that idea doesn't really seem possible..

but I love the sound of this contest.
i know i'd like to learn graphics and coding better..


perhaps, when the contest is over, the partners could team up and write a tutorial explaining how they made their graphic/layout.


The step concept is a good idea..
Perhaps during the whole thing, we could making a certain type of layout.
For example, website.

For the first round, just have the learner show what they can do.
sortof like a pretest kind of thing.
No judging in this round probably..

For the second round, make a series of basic things. Such as writing out css, making/finding/uploading brushes.
Judging would be based upon how they've improved through those simple steps.

For the third round, design a header and learn the coding to 'place' it into the layout. This round can also be for placing div's and such..
Judging could be based on the learner's capability to figure out div's and using brushes, etc etc.

For the fourth round, a background could be designed.Preferable a more complex background.
Judging could be based on how much knowledge he/she has gained from the header phase.

For the last round [if doing a website layout, as suggested], integrate wordpress, cutenews, etc.That'd be a nice challenge.Maybe music players could go along with this too?Probably anything interactive that would be a little challenging.
Final judging could be based upon who's improved the much, gained the most skill, overall performance, etc.

Thoughts?

edit//
perhaps administrators can provide a temporary subdomain with cbstaff if we go with the website idea.?
geocities or freewebs or something with the same likeness probably wouldn't perform very well...

[think!IMAGINARIL...]

I like the idea of having multiple sites, however, the problem is I see is that how then would they be judged against eachother due to the differences in complexity of designing each type of site?

I agree. If you guys are judging coding too, it'd be difficult to judge the layouts if everyone's doing different blog sites.
I think it should be a different blog site for each round. It'd be easier to judge.

[anime-essence]

^I would love to participate whenever this whole "contest" begins.

[GREASEbaby]

Whoo I wanna be your partner Ricky :]
do you remember mee?

[anime-essence]

^Janette, of course. You hardly ever sign on Aim anymore, but I never forgot about you. Has school prevented you from getting online? I still manage to post once in awhile and design frequently for Createblog.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

First off, sorry I haven't returned to this thread -

I'm thinking maybe we could kick this off late mid-late January? Let people get back to their normal routines after all the holidays and such.

Still need to work out the kinks, of course.

Also (and I'm looking for coder input here), after a proposed "Stage 1", lets say people come up with something like this (I'll use my silly mediocrity as examples):



How would you, the mentors, think you could proceed? Like, perhaps have the rookie outline where they want things to go (like, put squares or what not where they want the contact information, etc) then help them code?

[anime-essence]

^It would be rather difficult, but not extremely impossible. Of course, half of the design isn't going to suit either partner because of style or taste differences, but keeping in contact and sharing ideas with each other helps a lot. I suggest to everyone, know who your partner is going to be and plan ahead, preferably someone who you keep in contact more than others, also someone who shares common aspects of designing/coding and is going to be responsible for their share. Even if the design isn't extremely pleasing to either partner, it's the cooperation and effort that made the difference of a finished to an unfinished product.

[shortcake]

wow. that would be really cool. i know i'd love to get help =D & that way you can get know other cb members... anyways yeah. sounds cool.

[*I Shot JFK*]

i SO want to be one of the novices!

[technicolour]

I think that, if this is going to happen, you should wait a couple of rounds before y'all incorporate coding.

First Round: Creating Basic Headers
---> Basically, learning to manipulate the pictures into a proper header that COULD be used on a website
Manipulating: Blending, changing colors, adding textures, adding brushes, and how NOT to go overboard. Teach dimensions, resolution, basics.

Second Round: Creating complex Headers
---> Involves lots of pictures and focuses more of picture placement. Lessons taught in round one will most certainly come into play here. Basically, making more complex headers that you spend more time on. Teaches proper repetition. How can repetition be proper, you ask? Oye. Much to learn you do, young weedhoppa!


Future Round: How to incorporate the headers into a site
---> Making it flow with the rest of the webpage, figuring out if ONE COLUMN or TWO COLUMN code would fit best. OH! Color scheme. Making sure the site has a great color scheme that flows with the header and isn't too bright or tacky.


Uhm. Yeah. Discuss. My head hurts. :D

[Mulder]

^i like the sound of that

in webmastering, we started off with a logo, then a header, and then our personal websites (which did not have to use the previous logo or header). many personal webdesigners use logos, so maybe one of their first tasks could be to design a logo.

[Jeng]

YES OMG. id love this. having a coach. and learning from them :dances:
great idea and itll help a lot of members if they join this.

[mik3y92]

This would be awesome, Good idea. I would love to work with another member. Can share ideas :).

[technicolour]

^i like the sound of that

in webmastering, we started off with a logo, then a header, and then our personal websites (which did not have to use the previous logo or header). many personal webdesigners use logos, so maybe one of their first tasks could be to design a logo.

Yeah we did that!



Lots of people are showing interest. but we still need to get this up and off the floor and onto the drawing board.

[*mona lisa*]

I think that, if this is going to happen, you should wait a couple of rounds before y'all incorporate coding.

First Round: Creating Basic Headers
---> Basically, learning to manipulate the pictures into a proper header that COULD be used on a website
Manipulating: Blending, changing colors, adding textures, adding brushes, and how NOT to go overboard. Teach dimensions, resolution, basics.

Second Round: Creating complex Headers
---> Involves lots of pictures and focuses more of picture placement. Lessons taught in round one will most certainly come into play here. Basically, making more complex headers that you spend more time on. Teaches proper repetition. How can repetition be proper, you ask? Oye. Much to learn you do, young weedhoppa!

Future Round: How to incorporate the headers into a site
---> Making it flow with the rest of the webpage, figuring out if ONE COLUMN or TWO COLUMN code would fit best. OH! Color scheme. Making sure the site has a great color scheme that flows with the header and isn't too bright or tacky.

Uhm. Yeah. Discuss. My head hurts. :D

Each round would progress from building images, then onto planning the layout, then coding it, and finally, showcasing it, I'm guessing. I love how you divided the first stages.

Need more feedback. Please respond!

[clarity]

I very much like this idea, I'm all for it.

[talcumpowder]

... I think, mostly like what Kristina said with the preliminary round being to design a logo and then progress further.

Primarily because a logo is nice and simple, and the "Teach dimensions, resolution, basics." part could be incorperated here so as not to have too many things happen at once. Teaching too many things at once is difficult.

(I did not just jump into this conversation, and you did not just see me ... 'kay?)

[Intercourselyts]

Ah I would love to participate in something like this Its a very neat idea I have to admit. I know the ends and outs of coding anything usually so If this ever happens and someone wants to pair up with me

[ThE LoTuS FlOwEr]

hi there ..
i'm new here , i hope that doesn't prevent me from paticipating .. i really like the idea ^^
thanx

[*digital.fragrance*]

^ Of course not, you can participate . But right now, this is only in the planning stages.

[*mona lisa*]

BUMP!

Hmm.. Something to think about--would it be best to start off with a specific type of layout, e.g. the common two column, and then progress to a different type of layout in say, DWTS part 2? This way, the starlettes would be able to learn more than just basics since this is going to be a very lengthy "contest" and would be difficult to try to teach everything the stars know.

And taking Kristina's ideas and expanding them:

First Round: Creating Basic Headers
---> Basically, learning to manipulate the pictures into a proper header that COULD be used on a website. Manipulating: Simple blending, changing colors, adding textures, adding brushes, and how NOT to go overboard. Teach dimensions, resolution, dpi, basics.

Second Round: Creating complex Headers
---> Involves lots of pictures and focuses more of picture placement. Lessons taught in round one will most certainly come into play here. Basically, making more complex headers that you spend more time on. Teaches proper repetition. How can repetition be proper, you ask? Oye. Much to learn you do, young weedhoppa! Adding on, possibly trying out different styles--cut-out collages, blends, abstract, all that jazz.

Third Round: How to incorporate the headers into a site
---> Making it flow with the rest of the webpage, figuring out if ONE COLUMN or TWO COLUMN code would fit best. OH! Color scheme. Making sure the site has a great color scheme that flows with the header and isn't too bright or tacky. Figuring out colors for text, links, etc. Tip: use colors from within the image/header as they will "flow" best with the overall layout.

Fourth Round: Coding! The basics of coding, simple HTML and CSS: how to place images, wrapping text around images, using images as links, opening links in the same frame or in a separate window, perhaps in a window with a certain dimension/size, how to use CSS for setting text styles, link styles (hover, italicizing, changing font size/face/color, etc.).

[talcumpowder]

Hm ... I still think a preliminary logo round would be nice. It would kind of teach the "star" what they were working with in their partner ... And it would be easy to incorperate some of that first round (Creating Basic Headers) into that round so that it's not really stressful to teach someone so much in so little time.

Maybe that's just me. And if you were to do a "two column" layout, would it have to be a linear header with the two columns under it ...? That's more something to think about. Perhaps it could be, and then you could progress into, um, "finding your own style" as round/part 2 ... Just a suggestion.

That would also eliminate the secnd round that Mona proposed ... In a way. See, 'cause the first 3 rounds/parts would be like ... When the dancers are being taught pre-choreographed dances, yeah? And then the second part/round could be when the dancers are making up their own choreography. That is how dancing with the stars works ... Right? -has never watched the show-

[technicolour]

^ They always make up their own choreography. The "Stars" are just taught how to do the steps..


Oh. We have to involve imagemapping somewhere in there. Imagemapping is a must to learn.


Oh, also.

If we were to start out with learning a colum-defined layout, then, most definately go with a one column first. Then, you can learn how to do that and then learn aspects of a sidebar and all that junk.

But Reili is right..we do need a logo round or something to where we can learn what the trainee knows and doesnt.

[talcumpowder]

... Pretend like I'm up with pop culture. XD I think I confused myself with "So You Think You Can Dance?", which is a completely different show.

If they start with a one-column layout, you can just teach them how to expand (or shrink, depending on the style) the layout to add in a siebar ... So I guess it probably would be good to start with a one-column.

Perhaps (for the imagemapping) the header could be required to have navigation on it. That way it naturally lends itself to the one-column layout anyways. Or something like that, yeah? I do agree that they should be taught that though.

[technicolour]

^ Yes yes, imagemapping would go in with the creating "complex" header round, I suppose? Imagemapping can be pretty complex. It was to me, at first, at least.

[Mulder]

^well, with imagemapping, are you talking about it with a particular program, or hard-coding it? i use pcoward's imagemapper, or psps, both of which almost noone else does, and I at least couldn't teach someone how to imagemap with imageready.

[technicolour]

I know how to do it w/ Imageready.


It is quite easy. But, since not everyone has that program...we would have to use one of those internet site thingie mcbobbers.



Ugh, Damnit. Thats the problem with this competition. Programs.

Who has what programs. Not everyone has the same programs. And that isnt fair. Damn. Why didn't I think of that sooner?

But yeah. Program conflicts.

[Mulder]

^that will always be a problem
i suppose that the "star" and learner should both use the same program, as well as the same blogging program.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

As far as compatibility with programs is concerned, that could be reasonable resolved in matching up process (matching star to rookie). So how I envision it is that we have a thread asking for participants. In that thread, if you are interested you post your name, etc AND what software you currently own. You would also list what you have done, or are able to do. For example:

Name: Rebecca
Participant Role Interested in:Learner (or Mentor, if you would to be the "star")

Currently Owned Programs

• Photoshop 8
• ImageReady
• Flash
• Dreamweaver
• MS Paint

Experience: I've done graphics in Photoshop, some animation in ImageReady

--------------------------------------------

That way, once everyone has expressed their interest, they can be matched up. I also like this because I am of the mind that participants should not choose one another. It takes away from the spontaneity of the contest. Also, it gives people a chance to get to know someone they might have otherwise. So it's a contest AND a way to get to meet someone. :)

I think Mona and Kristina's ideas of rounds are perfect. Add to that Reilli's prelim and we've started to formulate a plan. [/Velma]

The idea of a prelim round is good because it does let the mentor know, or at the very least give them an idea of what they're working with. So for example, that round is exclusively up to the rookie. They come up with the logo, or simple graphic and the mentor can see how what they've got in store for them (sort of).

[technicolour]

Mwahaha. We need a judging committeeeeee then. Someone independent who'll match everyone up. OMG I WANNA PLAY MADAME MATCHMAKER! (my little brother is watching Mulan )

But, yes, I do suppose the rookie + star will need the same program.


When should the participants/star thread be made?





I think after

-Prelim: Logo
-Basic Header
-Complex Header
-Incorporation of Headers
-Coding

those 5 rounds, then, you start making them have to design a site around a certain theme. Say, for a Church organization, or something. The site would have to include X amount of pages and whatever.

Gah. I need to seriously learn to think before I write anything. That would help in English Class.

[talcumpowder]

Whenever we completely figure this stuff out. XD

As for the thread, perhaps two seperate thread for learners/mentors? I dunno, but that would keep things neater so that whenever they do get matched up ... Well, you don't have to search for the two different categories in 1 thread. That would make the matching go faster, methinks.

After Kristina's 5 rounds though, maybe not a strict theme round ... But more of a LXS thing? Like, each contestant and their mentor have to create a (personal-ish) website with at least 2 or 3 pages featuring a graphic following the "theme." Because most of the participants will want to create more stylized websites ... And a church page would be more commercial, yeah?

(Ah, I also probably won't participate just because I own a rather weird program. Photoshop Elements and Photoshop aren't quite compatible, you see, and I never really thought about it before ... I guess I could be a learner. XD That would be really, really weird.)

[technicolour]

^ YES! A more LXS thing. That sounds better.


And I do think we need two separate threads.
The "Stars" and then the "Rookies"

Im not going to participate either...so..don't feel bad.

[*I Shot JFK*]

Name: James

Role: Learner

Programs: Photoshop (lemme get back to you on version, but i've not missed anything while following tutorials here, so it should be fine), MS Paint

Experience: Playing around making graphics in Photoshop

[*digital.fragrance*]

My programs aren't compatible either... I have PSP7... so I suppose they would be compatible with newer versions, but I'm not positive....

I use Photoshop at school only.

I'll have to find out.

[technicolour]

^ Rachael. Look at what you've been able to do with PSP7. SEVEN. Come on. I HAVE PHOTOSHOP. They're pretty similar. It's just how the programs are set up that are different.

[*digital.fragrance*]

Only thing is that it would be hard to pair me up with someone.

[sweetangel2128]

I think that is a very very cool idea!

[talcumpowder]

RACHAEL! C'mon, you an' me can pair up. I'll use my PSP9 and you can use your PSP7.[/ot]

So, when we gonna start?

[*digital.fragrance*]

That'd be awesome!

[HakunaMatata]

RACHAEL! C'mon, you an' me can pair up. I'll use my PSP9 and you can use your PSP7.[/ot]

So, when we gonna start?

Yes, yes, when are we starting? And how are we going to get to choose who the "learners" are? I predict that we'll have too many compared to the number of "stars", so is it just who signs up first?

[technicolour]

Well, I guess we might as well start getting people lined up for the contest.


We need to find people who are extremely qualified to be a star. We have plenty o' rookies, but not that many stars!

[talcumpowder]

PST! That's where the logo round comes in. You obviously have to cut down on the "rookies", so perhaps that round could be used to ... Remove (for lack of a nicer word) those that don't have at least the very, very basics down.

Things like pixelly isn't so good most of the time, and .GIF format isn't for many-coloured things. Just a thought ...

[technicolour]

K, what about this:

Assemble rookies or those interested.
Let them design a logo for themselves as for their own "company".

We need some sort of panel of people, and they'd cut down those who feel didn't meet the anty?

That sounds really awful..didn't mean for it to.

[Mulder]

^yea, the "stars" should outline "web-safe" formats, and when to use them.

i probably still have my webmastering handouts that explain it.

maybe we should explain that to the rookies before they even start.

[technicolour]

Web-safe?

I think I know what you mean..


Like, formats, resolution and shtuff?

[Mulder]

si.

for example:
.jpgs are great for gradients, or transitions in color, while .gifs are great for solid colors.
.pngs are great for both, but aren't very supported.

stuff like that.

[technicolour]

Well, then, yes. We should tell them this stuff before they start.

But first we need to get people? Shall I make a thread?

[Mulder]

sure. either you or a staffie.

[technicolour]

Meh. I'll do it. I'm so bored right now.

[Mulder]

^psst
maybe you should add whether they're signing up as a learner or a star.

or not. just a suggestion.

[technicolour]

In the topic title it says rookie application?

[Mulder]

^you know i missed that?

*hits head*

*hides under table*

[technicolour]

lol 'tis okay. I made a "Rookie" thread & a "Star" thread. Now all we need is people.

[*digital.fragrance*]

I'm wondering, should I move those threads you made to graphics? An leave links behind directing people to it? I could make a thread in the "current contest" with links to both of those applications, too.

[Mulder]

^i think they're fine here.

this is the contests forum, after all.

[technicolour]

yes...but no ones signed up. I say they go off to the graphics area. Or at least, someone make a thread in graphics with a link to here letting them know its going on.

[*mona lisa*]

Oh, yes. Great idea. Will do for both topics.

[*Duchess of Dork*]

Need....stars.

I'd love to apply for a rookie spot, but I'll hold off until I see more "Stars." :D

Thanks for making the threads! It's finally getting started.

[*Uronacid*]

I'm a rookie xD.... I think this looks interesting so I entered... xD

[Jeng]

whens the deadline >.<
or is it still undecided

[*mona lisa*]

None, as of yet. Though this is going to a lengthy "contest", so I think it should be around for a while longer.

[*annonymous.*]

Great idea. Maybe I'll apply for the rookie. I'm not all that good, anyways. Maybe I'll learn a thing or two. I'd really like to see the work of the rookies after the stars teach them new graphic tricks. :)

[mocassinsx29]

lol wow every reality show is making its way onto CB... fear factor here we come!

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} Azarel

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FIRST ROUND IS UP!

N.B. This is only a preliminary round and for rookie applicants since there are more rookies than stars who have applied. Please read it carefully and feel free to post here if there are any questions. Good luck and keep it simple!

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Good luck to all the Rookies!

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Oh my gosh. ITS UP! WHOOT! Yay! I'm so excited about this contest. Im serious. This is going to be off the heezy fo' cheezy.