never forget Options

[*kryogenix*]

December 7, 1941.

[*krnxswat*]

Pearl Harbor, eh?

Who cares. Well, I don't. Didn't affect me (in any direct way).

[kimmytree]

^ Who cares? Eh. Even though it might not directly effect us, so many people lost their lives fighting for our country.

[LadyNakuru]

OOooh yes.
I live in Hawai'I..on Oahu, so yeah.

[Jeng]

v.i.d.
very important day.
pearl harbor. -moment of silence-

[*krnxswat*]

^ Who cares? Eh. Even though it might not directly effect us, so many people lost their lives fighting for our country.

..and the moral of the story would be?
by the way, the appropriate vocabulary would be 'affect'

[moninja]

i forgot.

RIP.

[*My Cinderella.*]

R.I.P

[*Infinite.*]

Eh I suppose I don't see it as that big of a memorial typish day, no one really cared. In drafting me and one my friends talked about it, that was the most I heard about it the whole day. Oh and I heard it on the news this morning when I was watching it with my grandpa.

-shrugs-

Rest In Peace I suppose, but I mean if they aren't already somethings wrong.

I guess I kind of agree with Seon Ho.

[smoke]

Pretty sad day. I think it's pretty sad no one really remembers. Back then, that was their 9/11. Think of how we all felt then.

I guess because I'm such a WWII buff that it's important to me. I was watching a documentary where some Japanese vets met up with American vets and forgave each other. One guy met the same pilot who dropped a torpedo that destroyed his ship and nearly killed him. They shook hands and the Japanese guy said "I'm sorry." and was crying but the American said "No, don't be. It was a war between two nations and we were just soldiers. We were just doing our job." and he game him a hug. I thought that was pretty neat.

But, yeah, it should never be forgotten. I honor all who fought and who died.

[Smoogrish]

^ It really is sad. Even my US History teacher didn't remember. We remember silly things like Valentine's day and April Fool's day, but many people can't even remember such an important day.

[OhMyAnniee]

Aw, Pearl Harbor.
Sometimes I wonder what really happened that day.
& what Japan's intentions were.. I mean, like REALLY know.
Not just the stuff that I learn in history class.

Edit: I'm reading my newspaper that I bought from the memorial in Hawaii last time I went.

[Serendipity]

I saw it on the calendar this morning, so I just took a brief moment to think of those who fought and those who perished.

[*krnxswat*]

^ It really is sad. Even my US History teacher didn't remember. We remember silly things like Valentine's day and April Fool's day, but many people can't even remember such an important day.

Because we are able to relate to days such as Valentine's Day or April Fools Day, not some event that happened 60+ years ago. Are you really that stupid?

[Simba]

Pretty sad day. I think it's pretty sad no one really remembers. Back then, that was their 9/11. Think of how we all felt then.

Well, I'm sure the people whom lived during the time remembered it.
And yeah, I think 9/11 was a pretty good event to compare Pearl Harbor with.

It was also reminds us of some of America's mistakes; I'm talking about how strategic war geniuses were already talking about how Japan could make a huge blow on America at that particular timeset, but were obviously not listened to.

Before 9/11 occurred, there were already hints out there that there could be a terrorist threat, such as when the Philippines captured one of the minds behind the whole concept of the 9/11 attack and noted America, but was disregarded.


Well, the movie was pretty good.

[smoke]

Because we are able to relate to days such as Valentine's Day or April Fools Day, not some event that happened 60+ years ago. Are you really that stupid?

Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

[*slammin shelby*]

He kinda sorta has a point.
I mean yes, we should you know feel bad for the people who lost people.
And also, how can you relate to 9-11. Were you there? Did you lose someone? How did it affect you?
Just asking.
But I can understand both points of veiw.

Anyway. Yeah.

[*Infinite.*]

EH i suppose I dont' really find even 9/11 important either, I just see America as being completely selfish about it. I think you should remember something like WWII or even WWI before 9/11.
A ton more people died during those wars then the compared 3,000 that died at 9/11.

-shrugs- I'll always feel like that, even if I were apart of it, I just believe we did it to ourselves or we atleast called it upon ourselves.

[Smoogrish]

Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

It's not that they're less important, Seon Ho does have a point about them being able to relate more to them, but shouldn't people remember and honor the people who died at Pearl Harbor?

[*Infinite.*]

^of course, but it doesn't always happen that way. People tend to forget because its not a very big direct subject that everyone hears about often.

Brings back the whole America being selfish, its the past and no one cares. They'll continue their lives with the things they can relate to.

[Simba]

Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

I see your point, and it does make sense to me.

Though, what Seon Ho is saying makes sense too. I mean, yeah, it was a pretty significant event especially to those who were indeed directly affected, but I guess it would be legit to not remember Pearl Harbor.

I guess similar to how, say, if you're not Jewish you probably don't know about the Jewish holidays, when they occurred, etc, though the Jewish people sure do, because it affects them, and are really important to them.

Perhaps people who don't remember or really care about Pearl Harbor don't because, as said before, it really didn't effect them all that much, or they don't really care too much about the soldiers who died, or whatever.


It appears that people have beat me to the point.

[Smoogrish]

Of course, if you were living during the time period, it makes sense that Pearl Harbor would have had a much greater impact on your life, and so you would remember it much better than say, people of our age. The only times we hear about it is through history testbooks and perhaps through older generations, but we weren't actually there. We're not reminded of it every day of our lives, and it's not something we can really "participate" in.

[smoke]

Oh, I know, I agree. I was just saying that we can relate to how they felt. It's not like we're completely oblivious. But we were here on 9/11, and yet we still forget that.

Americans are selfish. That's also pretty sad. -_-'

[Simba]

Oh, I know, I agree. I was just saying that we can relate to how they felt. It's not like we're completely oblivious. But we were here on 9/11, and yet we still forget that.

Americans are selfish. That's also pretty sad. -_-'

Like how "history repeat can repeat itself," eh.

But yeah, it usually isn't like the feeling is something we've never felt before.

Selfish people.

[*krnxswat*]

Are you really that naive? That was like their 9/11. Of course we can relate.

Her point is that we remember less important things in general and forget what we should remember. Not that hard of a concept to grasp.

- Nevermind, I'll just leave it be. No need to stirr up an arguement

Well, that's just the way we are. Remembering the insignifcant, while forgetting the significant. Humans are only fallible, and will be for as long as they exist.

[*a painefull euphoria*]

^ It really is sad. Even my US History teacher didn't remember. We remember silly things like Valentine's day and April Fool's day, but many people can't even remember such an important day.

^so true
and that teacher should be fired.
how does a history teacher forget that???

we spent the whole period in my us history class watching a movie on it.

[smoke]

- Nevermind, I'll just leave it be. No need to stirr up an arguement

Well, that's just the way we are. Remembering the insignifcant, while forgetting the significant. Humans are only fallible, and will be for as long as they exist.

You edited! But, yes, I agree with you. You basically repeated what I was getting at, so, no, it really isn't that hard to grasp.

Emotionally, we can relate to how they felt. Terrorists or not. If you recall, Perl Harbor was a surprise attack. In Americans eyes at the time, it really was a type of "terrorist" attack because technically, we weren't at war with Japan yet.

[*krnxswat*]

- Nevermind, I don't really feel like arguing.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
I STAND CORRECTED
I'M WRONG
YOU'RE SMART
I'M STUPID

[*slammin shelby*]

Hahaha Seon Ho ;x
Anyway. Lets stay on topic.
If you wanna take this somewhere else the debate forum is open :D

[*salcha4u*]

For all the kids who haven't had enough history...

[moninja]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=159573

[*salcha4u*]

I KNOW BUT MINE HAS PICTURES!!111

[*a painefull euphoria*]

yeah so that makes yours wayyyy better!

[*salcha4u*]

I know righhhhhhhhht

[ParanoidAndroid]

PEARL HARBOR!

[*mona lisa*]

Topics merged.

I didn't remember but it's not a big deal in Canada (for obvious reasons). I don't think I cared too much about it either when I still lived there but . The movie saddened me.

[*kryogenix*]

You have horrible taste in movies if you think that Pearl Harbor the movie was good, or if it did the story any justice.

[*mona lisa*]

You have horrible taste in movies if you think that Pearl Harbor the movie was good, or if it did the story any justice.

If that was even directed to me, I didn't say anything about the movie being good or even being historically accurate. But the truth is that it did make me sad (overall, anyway).

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

I think it's very sad that people don't remember this, how can you not? If you forget about it, it might happen again. It's the last "reunion" of the survivors this year. I cannot image the emotion that must fill that moment for them. They're gone but what happened to them and what they did will always remain. It's sad how we take such advantage of the things people have done in the past that have assured us a chance to be here.

Eep, deep post.

[demolished]

Oh, I know, I agree. I was just saying that we can relate to how they felt. It's not like we're completely oblivious. But we were here on 9/11, and yet we still forget that.

Americans are selfish. That's also pretty sad. -_-'

Americans arent really selfish.



What does selfish means to you?

[datass]

Sounds kinda harsh but I don't really care much.

[*krnxswat*]

I think it's very sad that people don't remember this, how can you not? If you forget about it, it might happen again. It's the last "reunion" of the survivors this year. I cannot image the emotion that must fill that moment for them. They're gone but what happened to them and what they did will always remain. It's sad how we take such advantage of the things people have done in the past that have assured us a chance to be here.

Eep, deep post.

You leave me speechless; in a bad way.

[Spirited Away]

People remember these events in different ways. Some will remember it as a sad thing; some will think of it as something to learn from; and some will just relate it as history (no sentiments attached). You can remember it in awe, in sadness, in jubilation, or with indifference. The point is just to remember. Should we forget, history might repeat itself.

[*krnxswat*]

Just because we remember doesn't mean it wont repeat.

[*T0rmented_Soul*]

Just because we remember doesn't mean it wont repeat.

yeap exactly what he said, things are memorable and things we forget. that doesn't mean history will repeat itself, theres to many things going on in the world that are more important thatn arguing about a day that wont happen again.

[tokyo-rose]

It took me till the middle of the day to remember the significance of that day on December 7th. My Global teacher didn't even mention it till the next day.

[*yrrnotelekktric*]

To be completely honest, I forgot it was on the 7th.

[Spirited Away]

Yes, I agree, Seon Ho, but it's better to remember how others have survived and dealt with the situation and learn from it. Knowledge builds. To be more current, kinda like how America learned from Katrina.

[*WHIMSICAL 0NE*]

I agree that it could repeat it's self. But if we look back on it as a learning experience than it might not happen. And to learn from it means you remember it. Some people don't see the significance of that day but it shaped a lot of things.