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We should all be allowed to be naked
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post Sep 12 2006, 04:00 AM
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"We should all be allowed to walk the streets naked, we were born naked, we should all "dress" naked."

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post Sep 12 2006, 05:58 AM
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Err. No.

That would be inappropriate, don't you think?

And it would be too cold.
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 09:28 AM
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I don't really have a problem with people being naked. Sometimes it's not appropriate, but I do think America's fear of nudity is a major cause of our image disorders, such as eating disorders. From an early age we're taught that nudity is bad; by extrapolation, kids come to be ashamed of their bodies. If kids were taught to embrace the human form, I don't think there'd be as many problems with things like eating disorders.

The human body is really rather beautiful. It was/is cherished in many cultures, such as Ancient Greece. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 12:06 PM
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I agree! Gosh, it feels so comfy when I'm naked.
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 12:51 PM
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Cold. Cold = Shrinkage = Unfortunate.

But there sint anything WRONG with nudity, no.
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:20 PM
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Yes there is.
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:25 PM
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Actually, there are things wrong with being nude.

1) It could be disgusting,
2) How in the world will a 3 year old feel when he / she sees his / her teacher nude?
3) It's morally wrong.

There are more but I'll stop here. Although, it's fun to be naked.
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:46 PM
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1) But, as Michael pointed out, if nudity was the norm, people would be less inclined to percieve others as 'disgusting'

2) Again, if it was a social norm, then I imagine it would make little or no difference

3) How is it morally wrong? I mean, yes, if the naked men rape lots and lots of naked women, sure, but one doesnt necessarily follow the other, and in any event, it is the rape which would be morally wrong, not the nudity.

4) Paul, if you can't be intelligent, go away, please.
 
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No, people are way insecure now. I don't think many would actually like this idea. Although I think if this were to really happen people would perhaps take better care of themselves. Its instinct I think to compare yourself to someone else and with that happening people would.

I would find it a little gross to see some people. I rather not get sick.
 
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 12 2006, 6:28 AM) *
I don't really have a problem with people being naked. Sometimes it's not appropriate, but I do think America's fear of nudity is a major cause of our image disorders, such as eating disorders. From an early age we're taught that nudity is bad; by extrapolation, kids come to be ashamed of their bodies. If kids were taught to embrace the human form, I don't think there'd be as many problems with things like eating disorders.

The human body is really rather beautiful. It was/is cherished in many cultures, such as Ancient Greece. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
I sooo agree. I couldn`t say anything else clap.gif
 
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post Sep 12 2006, 11:24 PM
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But more importantley, what society deems normal changes so if nudity became common, it would become normal (which is basically what people have said). So I'm all for it, you all want to see my pretty body :D
 
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post Sep 13 2006, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 12 2006, 8:46 PM) *
1) But, as Michael pointed out, if nudity was the norm, people would be less inclined to percieve others as 'disgusting'

2) Again, if it was a social norm, then I imagine it would make little or no difference

3) How is it morally wrong? I mean, yes, if the naked men rape lots and lots of naked women, sure, but one doesnt necessarily follow the other, and in any event, it is the rape which would be morally wrong, not the nudity.

4) Paul, if you can't be intelligent, go away, please.

But that isn't what the topic is about. He wants us all to be allowed naked which is morally wrong. I would in no way want to see my 58 year old teacher naked! I wouldn't want to see my dad naked, nor my mom. Nakedness should either be private / shared with close members of your life not with the whole world.

IF we were all naked to begin with, then I agree with you, who cares? Oh well, being naked is fun though. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Sep 13 2006, 03:58 PM
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Yes... but what is morally wrong with nudity which would make the decision to allow it morally wrong?

simply saying it doesnt make it true. Unacceptable in current society =/= morally wrong.
 
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post Sep 13 2006, 05:20 PM
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aren't there people who are nudists .. and they live life naked? i read that in CosmoGirl one time ..
 
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QUOTE(rawr SOCK @ Sep 12 2006, 6:58 AM) *
Err. No.

That would be inappropriate, don't you think?

And it would be too cold.

It's inappropriate for what exactly?

I hate that people go around throwing out the word "inappropriate" for absolutely everything. It's typically completely untrue. Nudity is not always innappropriate. Cursing is not always inappropriate. Discussing sex is not always inappropriate.

And Michael said (I think), if it were done more often, it'd be much more acceptable.

If it's a matter of getting "unwanted attention," you can't really complain, because it's your choice, However, if we were raised like that, it wouldn't be such a big deal anyway. I mean, exactly how many boys do you really think are going to grow up without ever seeing their moms' boobs? In order to acclamate people to things, you have to share them, rather than make them that much more taboo.
 
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post Sep 13 2006, 06:34 PM
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i think it would be okay like relaly. God created us with a beautiful body yet however nowaday in the world girls are abusing the nuditiness. They are tending to seduce guys with it so it's just make ppls view of nudity as inappropriate.
 
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post Sep 13 2006, 06:36 PM
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I have no problem with being nude. How is it inappropriate? Nakedness is as natural as a human being can get. And people who use the excuse that it's "morally wrong"... not everyone shares the same morals mellow.gif. That might be morally wrong for you but to someone else it could perfectly acceptable.
 
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post Sep 13 2006, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Sep 13 2006, 6:20 PM) *
It's inappropriate for what exactly?

I was going to say children..
But then I read everyone's posts and changed my mind.
If nudity was normal, then I guess it wouldn't be innappropriate.

It'd still be COLD though.
 
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post Sep 14 2006, 05:07 AM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 12 2006, 1:46 PM) *
1) But, as Michael pointed out, if nudity was the norm, people would be less inclined to percieve others as 'disgusting'

2) Again, if it was a social norm, then I imagine it would make little or no difference

3) How is it morally wrong? I mean, yes, if the naked men rape lots and lots of naked women, sure, but one doesnt necessarily follow the other, and in any event, it is the rape which would be morally wrong, not the nudity.

4) Paul, if you can't be intelligent, go away, please.



WOW! U da man.
 
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 13 2006, 3:51 AM) *
Cold. Cold = Shrinkage = Unfortunate.

But there sint anything WRONG with nudity, no.


nudity -> cold -> supressed immunity system -> uber sickness

yeah no real argument on my half...
 
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post Sep 14 2006, 05:39 AM
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lol oh wow i just read about the shrinkage thinigie ahahah XD some of us dont shrink =P but we'll get sick.
 
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Nudity is for other animals. Clothes are for the civil animals like human. Except when we take showers, we get uncivil ermm.gif
 
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I think a lot of people are missing the point. Clearly one wouldn't walk around naked when it's cold. Clearly there are many, many places where clothing is appropriate. But there are also a lot of places where people in Western society--specifically American society--are really uptight about nudity, such as the beach. Go to the beaches in Europe--a lot of them are nude, or at least allow bare chests, and it's not really a huge issue.
 
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post Sep 14 2006, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 13 2006, 10:58 PM) *
Yes... but what is morally wrong with nudity which would make the decision to allow it morally wrong?

simply saying it doesnt make it true. Unacceptable in current society =/= morally wrong.

It is morally wrong James. I will not want to be naked in front of my children. What will you think if a dad walks around naked in front of his 2 - 3 year old kids? I'm not talking about if it's in the norm.

If we were naked to start with, then fine. But everybody walking nude on the streets right now? As much as it sounds fun, it's morally wrong.
 
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NO IT ISNT!!!!

YOU ARENT JUSTIFYING YOUR STATEMENT!!!!

MERELY PROVIDING DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU THINK TO BE WRONG DOESNT EXPLAIN WHY IT IS WRONG!!!!

GAHHH!!!
 
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post Sep 14 2006, 02:27 PM
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James does have a good point, Sandra.

You are expressing your personal opinion on the subject, not providing a reasonable argument that would oppose the idea of being allowed to be naked.

Obviously this is not a desirable notion for you and that's ok. I am not, however seeing a reason for this being considered immoral other than your personal sentiment.

Also, we do start off naked.
 
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It is morally wrong James. I will not want to be naked in front of my children. What will you think if a dad walks around naked in front of his 2 - 3 year old kids? I'm not talking about if it's in the norm.

If we were naked to start with, then fine. But everybody walking nude on the streets right now? As much as it sounds fun, it's morally wrong.

Oh honestly, we are naked to start with!! We're not exactly born with clothes on. I think that'd be more than slightly distressing. Obviously they're clothed very quickly, but that goes along with the whole not being naked when it's cold common sense thing.

And it's immoral in what way? Why would you not want to be naked in front of your children? They would be, after all, the product of your nakedness.
 
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QUOTE(Zatanna @ Sep 14 2006, 12:27 PM) *
James does have a good point, Sandra.

You are expressing your personal opinion on the subject, not providing a reasonable argument that would oppose the idea of being allowed to be naked.

Obviously this is not a desirable notion for you and that's ok. I am not, however seeing a reason for this being considered immoral other than your personal sentiment.

Also, we do start off naked.


^ exactly. and do know that in an article i read about a nudist, she said that her parents were nudists since she could remember. it never bothered her. so what would you tell those people? that what they do are immoral? i wouldn't think so. everyone has their own beliefs.
 
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It is morally wrong James. I will not want to be naked in front of my children. What will you think if a dad walks around naked in front of his 2 - 3 year old kids? I'm not talking about if it's in the norm.

This goes back to the issue I brought up before. There shouldn't be anything shameful about the human form, and when we make it shameful, we set kids up for a lot of self-image problems later in life.
 
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Nudity is for other animals. Clothes are for the civil animals like human. Except when we take showers, we get uncivil


I wouldnt exactly call humans civil
 
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 14 2006, 2:19 PM) *
NO IT ISNT!!!!

YOU ARENT JUSTIFYING YOUR STATEMENT!!!!

MERELY PROVIDING DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU THINK TO BE WRONG DOESNT EXPLAIN WHY IT IS WRONG!!!!

GAHHH!!!


GAHHH!


YOU'RE NOT FUNNY!


GAHHH!
 
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Paul, I don't think he was trying to be funny. He was responding to Sandra.

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post Sep 15 2006, 12:09 PM
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James, wow. Calm down. It's not the end of the world. Seriously, yelling doesn't do much.

Rebecca: Of course we start off naked. A naked baby is acceptable, it knows nothing about being ashamed. A naked adult is a different case. Jesus christ, would you go naked in front of your son? If you could or do, that's erm, no comment. ( laugh.gif ).
Would you have sex in front of your kids? I mean, they were made through having sex, weren't they? To me, it all comes down to morals.

QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Sep 14 2006, 10:45 PM) *
Oh honestly, we are naked to start with!! We're not exactly born with clothes on. I think that'd be more than slightly distressing. Obviously they're clothed very quickly, but that goes along with the whole not being naked when it's cold common sense thing.

And it's immoral in what way? Why would you not want to be naked in front of your children? They would be, after all, the product of your nakedness.

If we weren't clothed, if clothes didn't exist then it'll be perfectly OK but that's not the case. You want us to be allowed walking down the streets naked, going to school naked, seeing our teachers naked. Jesus christ! I don't know what your definition of morals is but in my dictionary, this isn't allowed.

We don't think alike so of course we have different opinions. You think it's perfectly OK to walk around naked? Fine! Why don't you start it. Take off your clothes and walk naked. In Belgium, you'll be arrested. _smile.gif
 
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well, i'll calm down when you can justify what you say and i dont feel lik emy time is being wasted. paul, die.

something not being allowed in soceity =/= morally wrong. it equals untolerated in society at the present time.
 
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I see. Having sex publicly isn't morally wrong. Okidok.
 
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Of course not, not if JAMES doesn't think it is. We all have to suck up to him, right? He can tell members to DIE, and it's okay.
 
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Well my opinion in that is well ummm..... i really couldnt tell you i mean these days thats seems a tad bit innapropriate but anywyas i guess thats how god made us so,i dunni really.
 
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Well, obviously paul. we cant have cretins like you making decisions... we would all be sitting around making faux-sarcastic comments all day instead of accomplishing anything. triesome tit.

sandra... oy. way to miss the point.
 
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What the hell are you talking about? You told me to die, this shouldn't be allowed on a Forum. Action should be taken against you. It would be taken against me.
 
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QUOTE(x.d.o.0.f.u.s @ Sep 13 2006, 6:34 PM) *
i think it would be okay like relaly. God created us with a beautiful body yet however nowaday in the world girls are abusing the nuditiness. They are tending to seduce guys with it so it's just make ppls view of nudity as inappropriate.


If you want to take the stand point of 'God created us with a beautiful body...' then you should also have read that because man has fallen he should be ashamed of his body. And when I say 'His' or 'Him' I mean mankind in general.

QUOTE(mipadi @ Sep 14 2006, 7:51 PM) *
This goes back to the issue I brought up before. There shouldn't be anything shameful about the human form, and when we make it shameful, we set kids up for a lot of self-image problems later in life.


You're just blaming childrens perceptions of their bodies on shame. What about all the people who live normal lives. Those who aren't ashamed of other people seeing them? Do you think those people, excluded from the disorders, were brought up to not be ashamed of their bodies?

Celebrities set off a certain image, that some people would find immodest. Yet there are celebrities that have eating disorders and such.
 
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 16 2006, 2:33 PM) *
sandra... oy. way to miss the point.

So tell me, what do you think of having sex publicly? I mean, if we should be allowed to walk around naked, we should be allowed to have sex in the open, right?
 
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I'd hate to do it, but if it doesn't stop it will need to be done. All of you, keep it to the SUBJECT. It's about nudity in public, not sex. It's not about Paul and James slinging mud at each other either. Provide FACTS to support your argument, do not just state your opinions.

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I am not changing the subject, it's just an example. Besides, in other debate threads, people go off topic too. Why don't you paste this there? Pft.

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I see. Having sex publicly isn't morally wrong. Okidok.

There are actual consequences to children seeing public sex, because there are consequences to having sex. All they learn from being naked is basic anatomy. Witnessing sex would suggest that they should do it too, which they shouldn't, because we can't go about having a bunch of 6 years olds impregnating each other, now can we?
 
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rofl1.gif Rebecca! I adore you. throb.gif

Anyway, in this century, walking around naked will also have consequences. Remember puberty? I wouldn't want to see boners every where I go. Be honest to yourself, as of right now, it's just something that shouldn't be allowed.
 
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No no no. The point is that had we actually been raised that nakedness is acceptable, far fewer people would be inclined to be perveerted and immature when seeing the opposite sex.
 
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Sandra, why do you have this odd idea that public sex has anything to do with this thread?

one doesnt lead to another...
 
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Excuse me for automatically linking nakedness to sex. I'm a pervert.

Nikki! That's my point! Had we. Right now, it's just impossible.
 
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No, not really. If it were common, not so much. I mean, it's not like everyone dresses modestly as it is.
 
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But they still aren't going around completely naked, exposing sexual organs.

If we're all allowed to be naked, tapping omebody on the shoulder in okay, so wouldn't that make tapping somebody's penis okay, too? or going up to a girl and telling her she needs to come her...area?
 
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^ comb. the word is comb. or, possibly you mean something else, which makes little sense to english speakers.

yes... but if nudity were the social norm, a penis wouldnt be taboo. and, why WOULD someone tap someone on the penis instead of the shoulder? they could tap someone's crotch NOW if they wanted to... all of these scenarios are pure conjecture
 
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ew. i wouldn't want people to see my private parts. pinch.gif
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You're just blaming childrens perceptions of their bodies on shame. What about all the people who live normal lives. Those who aren't ashamed of other people seeing them? Do you think those people, excluded from the disorders, were brought up to not be ashamed of their bodies?

Perhaps, or perhaps they came to respect their bodies in other ways; at any rate, I think a person who is satisfied with her body type was taught, somewhere along the line, that shape is not important.
QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 16 2006, 10:01 AM) *
Celebrities set off a certain image, that some people would find immodest. Yet there are celebrities that have eating disorders and such.

Indeed. This emphasizes my point that certain images—thin, for example—are taught to be "good", and many people are driven to attempt to attain these "good" body types at any cost.
 
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^ comb. the word is comb. or, possibly you mean something else, which makes little sense to english speakers.

yes... but if nudity were the social norm, a penis wouldnt be taboo. and, why WOULD someone tap someone on the penis instead of the shoulder? they could tap someone's crotch NOW if they wanted to... all of these scenarios are pure conjecture


You wouldn't know that until it happens.
 
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Nikki, do you know why it isn't common? Because it isn't normal, it'll never be.
 
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Paul, that isnt particularly helpful, because you dont know either way, so it doesnt strengthen your stance, poarticularly.
 
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You know, I actually typed Nicki but erased it. Haha.
 
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Nikki, do you know why it isn't common? Because it isn't normal, it'll never be.

That...makes no sense. Who exactly do you think defines the norm? And common practices are the norm, so in that sense, they're transient, and it means nothing to say that something isn't common because it isn't normal. Years ago, women wearing pants wasn't common because it wasn't the norm, but that doesn't mean things can't change.
 
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Enough blabbing. Why don't you start it eh? There, problem solved.
 
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You do realize that all people do in a debate is blab, really? And that I could perfectly well be naked right now for all you know, and it would make absolutely no difference to you?
 
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This debate brings up a deeper issue. The word "should" makes it dependent on the question of what is moral, or what is right and wrong. This inevitably leads to the discussion of whether what is "right" is that which is defined by society to be correct behavior (right and wrong are relative and transient), or whether what is "right" can be determined from an innate code embedded in every human "spirit" (right and wrong are absolute and permanent).

Now, this debate could be taken either direction. Assuming "right" is relative, transient and defined by society, if current standards are taken as being what is "right and wrong," being nude in public shouldn't be allowed. This is simply because it most often makes others uncomfortable, and doing as such is discouraged by said standards.

However, in taking a wider view of the issue from the perspective that morality is relative, one can ask "What should societal standards of behavior be?" When evaluating this, I would conclude that societal standards of behavior should be formulated so as to allow for the smoothest operation of said society while simultaneously allowing the greatest range of personal freedom, so long as it does not infringe upon the operation of said society's functionality (opinion). This leads me to believe that societal standards should change so as to allow public nudity, as this would allow for more personal freedom and would not infringe upon said society's functionality once a societal equilibrium where nudity has been accepted into the norm has arrived.

I am not going to tackle the "right and wrong are absolute" side, as my experience says that this idea is incorrect, but I encourage anyone who feels so inclined to go for it :)
 
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Sep 19 2006, 8:15 PM) *
When in doubt, resort to immaturity.

It's funny how you think it's immaturity. Then again, you have a degree when it comes to that.

QUOTE(Statues/Shadows @ Sep 19 2006, 9:29 PM) *
You do realize that all people do in a debate is blab, really? And that I could perfectly well be naked right now for all you know, and it would make absolutely no difference to you?

Bla! I meant it as in both of us, enough blabbing from both of us. I'm quite certain that you aren't naked Nikki.

Just to clarify things, I am a semi nudist. I walk around in panties and bra or sometimes, I walk naked (when alone or with my boyfriend). I am not against the idea, I'm just saying that right now, it's practically impossible. There are just to many pervs (myself including). Even though there are more cons than pros, I'd love to see my gym teacher naked. Or my pastor.

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lol.. guess you guys all imagine hot girls/guys walking around the streets naked huh?

all you'll get is a bunch of fat old men walking around in all their glory.. just like a lot of the nude beaches
 
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ok, public nudity would make people comfortable naked with other people. but then again that would also encourage sex at a younger age wouldn't it?
 
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Guys, compare to the Greek's century and ours.

Our society is different now, time changes. Is there something wrong wearing clothes?

In this society, being naked in the public is not appropriate. Why? Time changes. We don’t live in the Greek's century. The influences around us are different. Being publicly naked would be disturbing and make other feel ugly. I mean, c’mon … a buff guy and a skinny guy.
 
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^ as a skinny guy, i can tell you that i dont really care, but cool.

the point is, the conception that nudity is wrong is a result of people covering up, not the other way around. if people DID begin walking round naked en masse, it could become a social norm, like any other popular phenomenon
 
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Oct 7 2006, 5:27 AM) *
^ as a skinny guy, i can tell you that i dont really care, but cool.

the point is, the conception that nudity is wrong is a result of people covering up, not the other way around. if people DID begin walking round naked en masse, it could become a social norm, like any other popular phenomenon




I'm skinny too. Haha. My metabolism is fast.



I understand your point, but this society is different. I’m assuming, people wouldn’t want to be publicly naked. People are so use to wearing clothes and to look pretty. This is what makes our society different. We can’t turn back into the past. We can’t be naked again. How would people feel, when their children see a naked person in a group of people with clothes on?[size="3"][/size]
 
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^ well whether or not people choose to be naked as individuals is not he issue. the point being is that it shouldnt be taboo
 
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we were all born that way i get it but we grew up thinking hey put this on. we grew up with protection. I dont think it will be smart if we didnt wear clothes. they protect us from a lot of things. I really dont care if someone gets excited about someone walking around naked, but clothes are there for protection.

and what if you see some hot girl/guy then you will be like eww they look ugly without their clothes then you wouldnt go out and persue the chase, you wouldnt go out and ask anybody out cuase you would see an imperfection.
 
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and what if you see some hot girl/guy then you will be like eww they look ugly without their clothes then you wouldnt go out and persue the chase, you wouldnt go out and ask anybody out cuase you would see an imperfection.

If you look hard enough, you'll find an imperfection anywhere. First of all, it's superficial to be "turned off" from someone for a small physical imperfection. When I think of the girls I have dated, none of them had perfect physical features, and you know what? It didn't matter. Expecting people to be flawless is going to make relationships very hard. Besides, clothes may cover up some physical imperfections, but certainly not all (especially given the rather revealing style sof today). For example, I'm pretty short, and no amount of clothing can hide that; but I'd be disappointed if someone refused to date me based simply on that reason (although, given women's obessions with the height of their mates, it wouldn't be surprising—but alas, I digress).

Secondly, I really don't think people "pursue the chase" based solely on physical features. All of the young women I have dated have had other attractions. Sure, I might hook up with someone based mostly (or entirely) on looks, but if I'm just hooking up with someone for a night, I'm not going to "pursue the chase" anyway. It takes more than looks to keep someone's attention.

And thirdly, on a more pragmatic note, it's pretty much impossible to hide your unclothed body from your partner when it comes to romantic relationships, anyway.
 
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nakedness wud b cool....i think we shud be allowed to b but it shudn't b mandatory....then agn if it wasnt mandatory noone wud do it.
 
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i think it would be for the better of society...back before civilization started..thats how people went around - naked ..and there was no such thing as being offended by it because it was perfectly normal...and also i think if we all just go around naked..there wouldn't be such a big deal over censored images and such and a big fuss over "omg i saw her nipple or his penis!" or wtvr itd make things way less complicated
 
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Well, I think most people object to nudity because of society standards. We were taught that nudity is wrong & disgusting. I think the person makes a very interesting point in saying that we were born nude, so we should be free to be nude daily. So I guess it all comes down to: What are your morals? What do you view as right and wrong?

Though I'm not a big fan of undiscrete nudity, I just think it's an interesting point _smile.gif
 
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it would be cold
and guys would be walking around with erections like 24/7 think about that
 
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QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Oct 7 2006, 2:27 PM) *
^ as a skinny guy, i can tell you that i dont really care, but cool.

the point is, the conception that nudity is wrong is a result of people covering up, not the other way around. if people DID begin walking round naked en masse, it could become a social norm, like any other popular phenomenon

Hi, it's been a while. How are you?

Anyway, I don't agree with you. If people who think we should be allowed naked (you, me and a whole bunch of people) should indeed take off our clothes and begin to parade around naked, it won't become a social norm. There are BILLIONS of people who'll oppose; people who take morals seriously.
Out of boredom (I swear rolleyes.gif ) I asked practically everyone I know at school or those whom I see on a daily basis what they thought of it, the girls weren't for it but the guys were. You know why.

It's never going to happen James. It'll never be a social norm because we aren't in those days anymore. What of REALLY cultural countries? I am definately sure Muslims won't be for it.

Sadly, it's impossible.

I don't think it's a bad idea, I am a semi-nudist. Although, the thought of seeing my parents / teachers naked freaks the hell out of me.
 
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I tottaly agree!!! Clothes are just a waist of money, time and anything eles you can think of. We even if you are really fat! Just take off all your clothes and walk like your the bitch of this world! WHO'S WITH ME!!!!
 
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i agree we should all be allowed to be naked
 

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