Jeans sizes, Size 00??!! |
Jeans sizes, Size 00??!! |
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Sorry if this topic has been posted before, or if it sounds a little rude. XD. I was just curious what the average person here is, 'tis all. Me personally, I'm in the '9-11' range.
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I'm a 7. Why would this topic be rude? jw...
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![]() theres no i in slut...but there is a u ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 208 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 86,257 ![]() |
It was hard to choose cuz i can wear anysize depending on the brand...i mostly have 3 or 5...but i can still fit in a 1
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![]() insanitys contagious. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,210 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 99,707 ![]() |
I have thick thighs and a big ass so , like about 10.
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![]() kristin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 5,705 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,985 ![]() |
in like evens..I'm a 4.
Some pants I fit in 3, some 5, and I have some 7. It's always like..really different. But I'll go with 5. |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Group: Member Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 128,129 ![]() |
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#7
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,882 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 47,064 ![]() |
anywhere from a size 5 to a size 9. Mostly sevens though.
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#8
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I'm a 0 or 1. I'm short though, so maybe that plays a role?
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![]() BANNED ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 ![]() |
There is a such thing as a 000? DAMN, must be bones.
I'm a 5 - 7 depending on where I get my pants. |
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#10
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![]() Newbie ![]() Group: Member Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 128,129 ![]() |
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#11
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I wear like a 8 or a 10 depends. I have really thick thighs though so it kind of depends on how I want my pants to fit.
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POWAPOSTA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,169 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,725 ![]() |
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![]() RAWR. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,585 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 102,641 ![]() |
Yeah I got the big booty thick thys problem too. But hey, I got that hourglass shape so who can complain? I'm usually about an 11 these days. I'm trying to get down to a 9. I used to be a 15!!!
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#14
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![]() crushed. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,432 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,026 ![]() |
I'm a size 3.
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![]() hello : ) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,227 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,139 ![]() |
Size like 8-9. Ugh and I don't have a big butt or thighs so I must just be big. Poo.
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#16
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I'm size 0-1. It depends on the brand. Usually 1 though.
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![]() SCHGEB!SCHGEB! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,786 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,217 ![]() |
im a 9 (rarely) 11 or a 13.. yeah.. stupid hips... *chops them off*
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*mzkandi* |
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I can wear a size 3 but since I am kinda tall, alot of size 3 are to short so I wear a size 5 or 7 for the length, even though size 7 are usually too big and I have to get them taylored
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![]() dakishimetainoni... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,322 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 75,318 ![]() |
i'm a size 3 i believe...but i'm not sure, my size 3 pants are kind of loose on me
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depends on the brand...i have one pair of size 1...my usual is a 3 though, but sometimes a 5 due to my hips.
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#21
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I can fit anywhere between a 0-3, i think. a 3 is kind've long though because i'm so short.
Most of the time it's 0. |
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#22
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,152 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 57,818 ![]() |
i can be anything from 3-9
jeans are so different! but i voted 5-7, cuz that's mostly. |
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#23
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t-t-t-toyaaa ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 19,821 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,270 ![]() |
anything between 000 -0 and i also were a 14 in girls
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#24
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in the 3-5 range.
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*Kathleen* |
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QUOTE I'm size 0-1. It depends on the brand. Usually 1 though. Yeah, same with me, except I'm usually 3-5. How tall are you, mzkandi? |
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
My pants size is 00. The pants fit my waist but the inseam is so long
![]() Wait where can you find 000? I'm really short so yea. :/ |
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*mzkandi* |
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#28
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![]() ^-^ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,676 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 107,668 ![]() |
It depends which store I'm buying from. from A.E. I'm size 2-4, from SAAN store I'm size 7
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QUOTE(Just_Dream @ Apr 19 2005, 8:17 PM) My pants size is 00. The pants fit my waist but the inseam is so long ![]() Wait where can you find 000? I'm really short so yea. :/ There used to be a place in my nearest mall.. It mostly had really girly things though, like prom dresses etc. I can't remember what it's called.. O0O;; Sorry! Doesn't WetSeal sell clothes small like that, though? |
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![]() Blasian, Asian, INVASION! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,288 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,769 ![]() |
I am 3-4 ish
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![]() Hi! I'm Dani :) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 5,637 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,369 ![]() |
im like 00-0
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#33
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![]() ~*The Blackanese One*~ ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 37 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,860 ![]() |
I wear 0-3 depending on brand
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![]() poison is pretty. ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 95 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 118,648 ![]() |
1-3
but i'm tall so when i find cool pants that fit they look like high waters ![]() |
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Leesaw :] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 146 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 70,763 ![]() |
hmm, i wear a 0 short.
except that, 00 is too small and 0 is too big. so does that make me a 00 and 1/2?? haha =] oohh, i never knew there was a 000 ;] |
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![]() Can't have the hand without the cock. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,481 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 50,622 ![]() |
size 3 sometimes 1
im short, and my pants are always long. |
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![]() moohaha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,214 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,985 ![]() |
im either a 7 8 or 9 slim like small wise not the huge way =]
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#39
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![]() JULiiANA FAYE. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 460 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 122,749 ![]() |
16 kids size
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![]() JULiiANA FAYE. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 460 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 122,749 ![]() |
//edit umm sry for double posting but i am 16 kids size b/c i'm a 11 year old lol
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#41
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Hm, for kids, i'm 10 or 12.
for juinors, i'm a 0 or a 1. |
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#42
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![]() *scribble scribble* ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,314 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 119,610 ![]() |
umm... 00-1. my mom doesnt let me get 00 shorts so i wear 1 because she thinks its too short. ive never seen 000 though
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#43
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5-7 range ish maybe?
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*suddenly she* |
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2. i didn't know there was a triple 0.
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#45
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![]() im addicted to my car<3 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 635 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 92,236 ![]() |
um all my pants are 1s. but really i can fit 0. its just i like them big haha. like they dont even fit my waist i wear them like falling off lmao. im too tall, 0-1 are short most of the time. im like 5'5, but i have long legs lol.
and i wear guys pants sometimes, like a 28 ![]() |
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![]() i've never wanted anything rationale. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 ![]() |
3-7. Yay for not being grossly skinny.
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#47
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![]() you high baby? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 88 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 122,267 ![]() |
in aussie sizes im a 6-8.
i dunno wut that is in ur measurments |
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#48
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![]() RiKACHANtEL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,876 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 51,230 ![]() |
most of my jeans are a 3 but i have a pair of 1s and a couple 5s.
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#49
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,953 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 52,702 ![]() |
like i wear a size 0 but my stomach pops out a little and my mom says i need to wear a size 3 and i refuse to wear it
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#50
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![]() Prez of Student Council 04/05 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,888 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 851 ![]() |
i don't wear pants with thes ekidna sizes... i think there was like 1 pair with this and it was a 1... probably a 3 now since i'm older...
but i usually wera 25 or 26 depending on the brand... miss sixty citizens of humanty seven for all man kind rock republic chip and pepper true religion i think those are the only jeans i wear now.. |
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#51
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![]() high on life ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 72 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 92,497 ![]() |
WEll, I wear a size 12 girl's.
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#52
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Newbie ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 125,575 ![]() |
[COLOR=red]umm...0-1-3 and 3's are too big mostly.
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#53
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 56 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 127,221 ![]() |
still in "kids range" :]
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#54
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![]() RAWR. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,585 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 102,641 ![]() |
QUOTE(Shortiiex @ Apr 20 2005, 5:41 PM) like i wear a size 0 but my stomach pops out a little and my mom says i need to wear a size 3 and i refuse to wear it That type of ish will get you a yeast infection. u might consider ignoring the size and just wearing pants that fit. Stomachs hanging out is not cute. No one will ever know what size pants you wear unless u tell them. Dont be stubborn. Get a bigger size. |
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![]() I come from East Oakland where the youngstas get hyphy! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,821 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 102,942 ![]() |
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#56
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![]() peggy's here. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 239 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,603 ![]() |
i have a waist of size 5 but the length for size 1, so i can't find jeans with the right size these days.
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![]() weird Sarah. yes,me... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 714 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,023 ![]() |
my size's different from different brand.
usually it's 26-27 inches... i love wear bigger size than my real size. |
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![]() Serious As A Heart Attack. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,292 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 11,344 ![]() |
00 or 0
im 5 foot and 92 lbs and enjoy it ![]() |
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#59
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![]() tell me more. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 ![]() |
Im either 5 or 7
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![]() Love_101_213 ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 63 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 122,565 ![]() |
My size is like 13 i which i could say 5 lol
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![]() your signal fades away, and all I'm left with is noise. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,099 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,110 ![]() |
anywhere from 3 - 6 but mostly 3/5
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#62
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,498 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 25,711 ![]() |
im like 12-14 in kids'
cuz im short >_> and kid's clothing are awesome and im still a kid :p |
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#63
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I could most likely fit a 7, but I like to wear my pants a bit loose so 9 for me.
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![]() aiko Nakamura at your service ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,518 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,144 ![]() |
im a 2 or 3 depending on the store. ha.
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#65
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dkjfdk . ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 84 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 66,854 ![]() |
I'm a 0. Sometimes i fit into 3s ... but mainly I wear 0s.
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#66
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![]() x0x- Alana*Michelle ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 13 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 104,382 ![]() |
Anything from a 00-3 but nothing over that.
Im 5'3...and thin...but im not anerexic, just built that way :] |
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![]() SPRITE rocks ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 56 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 51,411 ![]() |
people are obsessed with being skinny these days. i mean who wants to sleep with a stick? but some people are just petite so they dont count :P
im half petite, if that makes any sense i used to wear 00-1 now its 1-3 |
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![]() HAAAAAAAA. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 4,472 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 75,068 ![]() |
Age: 12.
Size: 1. |
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![]() It'sssssssss Sarah ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 237 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,850 ![]() |
I'm 0-1.
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to hell with you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,547 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,506 ![]() |
0-1
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![]() j'adore =) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 723 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 107,848 ![]() |
most of my pants are a size 3. but i'm tall to so some of my pants are a 5
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![]() lost ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 348 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 40,506 ![]() |
Oh I bought a 0 for the first time in a year the other day lol, but usualy 1 or 3 depending on the pants
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Jessica ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 480 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,118 ![]() |
im in the..1-3 range. it depends on which company the jeans are from..lol o.O and as someone else sed before. I'm sorta short. so yeah.
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![]() skaters gonna skate. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,861 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,336 ![]() |
i 4-5-6.
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![]() team late night queen ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,602 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 2,861 ![]() |
0-1. mostly 0 .
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It depends on the brand. Some are 3's, some 5's, mainly 7's, though. Although some I have from Hollister are 9's. Eww. Makes me feel bloated.
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i range from 1-5. most of the time thought i'm a 3.
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![]() Apr 24 '05* 1000 posts! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,184 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 56,049 ![]() |
duno.. same sizes mean diff things for diff countries!
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![]() Too slow. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,730 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 108,320 ![]() |
Um...Im 0 but im short so i have to fold them from the bottom.
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![]() You can't keep running from what you're trying to find. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 5,030 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 54,096 ![]() |
i'm from 1-3
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![]() none of it seems real ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,469 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 73,889 ![]() |
I'm a 3
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wow. i'm sooo past the average area...freaking a...
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#83
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![]() :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 212 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 27,682 ![]() |
i wear a size 3
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![]() Loser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,101 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 67,558 ![]() |
Either 0 or 1... I really don't know though. My mom wears 0, and I'm about the same height as her, so yeah o_o;
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![]() suck a f**k ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 116 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,998 ![]() |
Usually a 7 or 9. I have big hips. [and no butt]
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 47 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 129,825 ![]() |
hmmmmm
i'm just wondering if there different sizes for different countries..... cause i live in australia...n we have childrens sizes that go from 0-16(around tha size of your ages) n then after 16s it goes to a womens 8. so i'm not sure if all of this is the same. ![]() if any of this makes sense plz let me know ![]() |
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![]() Yes, I do have an Abercrombie booty. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 698 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 17,057 ![]() |
I usually wear and buy girl's pants in a size 10. But when I buy pants in junior sizes, I wear 00 - 1, depending on the brand.
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Newbie ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 130,342 ![]() |
im usually a size 7, but it all depends on the brand because sometimes i can fit into a 5 or a 9
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![]() //* imamix ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 97 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 126,148 ![]() |
0-3...
it depends on the brand. |
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It depends what brands, but bc i have a hugee butt, between a 7 and 11.
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hi,i'm HUONG.=] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 237 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,739 ![]() |
00-1.i can also fit 14 in girls.
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14/15. Though sometimes 16 depending on the brand/store.
It's mainly due to my wide hips that I've been graced with. Well, and my shapely thighs, all thanks to the 14 years softball and volleyball conditioning and grueling practices. |
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i'm usually a three but some pants i have are 5's.
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they have 000s?....wow....well i'm a 00.....rarely a 0.....ya i know, i'm skinny.
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i have to watch the one i love, forget shes loves me. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,128 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 61,209 ![]() |
eh it depends on what brand i buy but i'm mostly about a 3-5, sometimes rarley a 7
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i am wearing 00 right now, but anywhere from 00-1
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sizes 1-3. I can fit a 16 in kids size.
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7-9, actually. I feel BIG, I wanna lose some weight. My goal is 4-6.
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