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 Jul 29 2006, 07:55 PM
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 hollyann marie  Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 199,364  |
ummm... what came first the chicken or the egg... kathleen posted someething saying there are no stupid questions so im asking one... but its not stupid... its logical... hope this doesnt get moved to food.. it doesnt belong there!
 o and hope theres no other posts on this... neways back to questionnnnnn... CHICKEN OR EGG!?!?
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Jul 29 2006, 08:20 PM
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 yan lin♥ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 |
I'll move this to Debate.
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Jul 29 2006, 08:21 PM
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hollyann marie Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 199,364 |
hmphh
always moved!... DEBATE TIME?! ANYONE?!?!!??
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Jul 29 2006, 08:24 PM
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 Filipinese! Group: Member Posts: 16 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 445,449 |
i think that before all living things existed, elements fused together creating the egg. thus in its hatching, which created the chicken, which in turn was bestowed with the divine power to produce the incredible, edible egg. ok. im just kidding.
to be honest i cannot answer that. 
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| *kryogenix* |
Jul 29 2006, 08:43 PM
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Dinosaurs laid eggs way before there were chickens, so the egg came first.
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| *RiC3xBoy* |
Jul 29 2006, 08:50 PM
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^Man brings up a good point.
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Jul 29 2006, 09:20 PM
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Egg. Because the egg can come from like a dinosaur, and as time passes, the egg can like transform into a chicken.
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Jul 29 2006, 09:23 PM
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 Remember. Group: Member Posts: 81 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 445,685 |
The chicken. This is because God created all animals in thier present form. Meaning God created the chicken, and from it came an egg. If you do not believe in creation, then the gentleman kryogenix is most definately correct.
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Jul 29 2006, 09:24 PM
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^^ wow, i seriously never considered that, but when you do its a really good answers. i think im gonna have to agree.
but also, chickens could have evolved from another animal which over time created eggs? for some reason? so..whos to say... |
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Jul 29 2006, 11:52 PM
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mood: content Group: Member Posts: 2,063 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 42,325 |
hey i'm not sure if this type of post belongs in debate but it has to do with the subject and it wasn't originally in the debate forum :P
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/ QUOTE Chicken and egg debate unscrambled
Egg came first, 'eggsperts' agree Friday, May 26, 2006; Posted: 7:33 a.m. EDT (11:33 GMT) The question has baffled scientists through the ages. LONDON, England -- It's a question that has baffled scientists, academics and pub bores through the ages: What came first, the chicken or the egg? Now a team made up of a geneticist, philosopher and chicken farmer claim to have found an answer. It was the egg. Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life. Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg. Professor John Brookfield, a specialist in evolutionary genetics at the University of Nottingham, told the UK Press Association the pecking order was clear. The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into, he said. "Therefore, the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg," he added. "So, I would conclude that the egg came first." The same conclusion was reached by his fellow "eggsperts" Professor David Papineau, of King's College London, and poultry farmer Charles Bourns. Mr Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, agreed that the first chicken came from an egg and that proves there were chicken eggs before chickens. He told PA people were mistaken if they argued that the mutant egg belonged to the "non-chicken" bird parents. "I would argue it is a chicken egg if it has a chicken in it," he said. "If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg." Bourns, chairman of trade body Great British Chicken, said he was also firmly in the pro-egg camp. He said: "Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived. Of course, they may not have been chicken eggs as we see them today, but they were eggs." The debate, which may come as a relief to those with argumentative relatives, was organized by Disney to promote the release of the film "Chicken Little" on DVD. |
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Jul 30 2006, 03:44 PM
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i think the chicken came first, because in the bible it says God created all the animals, and i dont think there wasnt a wombfor babies to grow in...
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Jul 30 2006, 03:48 PM
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 Krista. Group: Official Member Posts: 4,380 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 391,319 |
QUOTE(guy fawkes @ Jul 29 2006, 9:23 PM)  The chicken. This is because God created all animals in thier present form. Meaning God created the chicken, and from it came an egg. If you do not believe in creation, then the gentleman kryogenix is most definately correct. yes, i agree. it depends on what you believe in. personally, i think it's the chicken because God created all animals. |
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Jul 30 2006, 10:20 PM
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hollyann marie Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 199,364 |
i think its the egg... not to offend anyone but i dont beleive in god or the bible soo i dont beleive in creation. so the egg came first and then the chicken. hope people dont hate me for saying that. its my opinion and im entitled to it.
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Jul 31 2006, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(ROARxD @ Jul 29 2006, 10:20 PM) Egg. Because the egg can come from like a dinosaur, and as time passes, the egg can like transform into a chicken. Well then which came first? The dinosaur or the egg? 
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Jul 31 2006, 09:12 PM
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In order for the first chicken egg to have been a chicken egg as opposed to a different egg, it must have had a chicken within it. Otherwise, it would just been another dinosaur egg. Thus, it would have only been a chicken egg when the chicken was developing inside, and thus:
A: The chicken and the egg came at one simultaneous moment. Kryo, I think the question refers to chicken eggs. If not, then your answer is right. |
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| *kryogenix* |
Aug 1 2006, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(guy fawkes @ Jul 29 2006, 10:23 PM) The chicken. This is because God created all animals in thier present form. Meaning God created the chicken, and from it came an egg. If you do not believe in creation, then the gentleman kryogenix is most definately correct. I believe that God created all things, but I also think that God created the dinosaurs before he created chickens. So it's not impossible that dinosaurs laid eggs before God created the chicken. |
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Aug 1 2006, 05:44 PM
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i think the chicken elvoled from something else and then laid the first chicken egg
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Aug 2 2006, 11:52 AM
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The Chicken! How did the Egg come if a Chicken didn't lay it? The Chicken dropped from the sky.
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Aug 2 2006, 11:56 AM
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Chicken. I say chicken.
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Aug 3 2006, 02:17 PM
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the microorganism came first, which evolved into a dinosaur version of a chicken which evolved to eventually the chicken which bore the egg
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Aug 10 2006, 12:05 AM
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 rorhinna Group: Member Posts: 331 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 432,214 |
QUOTE(guy fawkes @ Jul 29 2006, 7:23 PM) The chicken. This is because God created all animals in thier present form. Meaning God created the chicken, and from it came an egg. If you do not believe in creation, then the gentleman kryogenix is most definately correct. ^ I agree with this |
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Aug 11 2006, 01:26 AM
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 What's my name? Janette. and ily. <3 Group: Member Posts: 2,139 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 391,911 |
If the dinosaur laid the egg, wouldn't it have been destroyed when the meteor came and destroyed all the dinosaurs? o_O
I'm going to have to agree with this: QUOTE the microorganism came first, which evolved into a dinosaur version of a chicken which evolved to eventually the chicken which bore the egg
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Aug 11 2006, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 29 2006, 8:43 PM) Dinosaurs laid eggs way before there were chickens, so the egg came first. Please come back to us.  And yes, the dinosaur's egg was destroyed, but it was essentially first, which is the point of his argument. However, that's not really what we're debating, which is whether the chicken's egg came before the actual chicken. I think his comment was meant more in humor. For the sake of the argument, I agree with the argument that the chicken came to be (through evolution or creation, whichever you want to believe) and bore the egg. |
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Aug 13 2006, 05:28 PM
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 Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 |
The chicken. I'm saying that cause that's what the Bible says. :D
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Aug 13 2006, 11:25 PM
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The chicken v. egg debate was initiated by the government in order to divert our attention away from more important issues, such as humanitarian crises and the war in Iraq.
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Aug 14 2006, 12:10 AM
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Ok I used to belive in god and stuff now I am not real sure what I belive in I am kinda in the middle of the god and the evolved thing....
That being said there really can not be one without the other so which came first.... Well in oreder to be a chicken you have to have an egg BUT look at it this way to we all came from an " EGG " soooo there had to be humans right in order to make more and get that egg lol so it has to be the Chicken... Wow did I confuse everyone like I did myself 
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Aug 14 2006, 05:37 PM
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Um, yeah. Point proven.
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Aug 16 2006, 11:24 AM
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The egg because there would be no chicken without an egg
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Aug 16 2006, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Aug 1 2006, 3:44 PM) i think the chicken elvoled from something else and then laid the first chicken egg i agree.
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Aug 16 2006, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(Selv @ Aug 16 2006, 6:24 PM) The egg because there would be no chicken without an egg And where would the egg come from? |
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Aug 16 2006, 02:03 PM
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Chicken. End of story. God created all animals, in my opinion, BUT--if you don't believe in that, chickens evolved from lizards, so the chicken still came first. The question is not about ANY eggs, such as dinosaur eggs *cough*kryogenix*cough* It's about a CHICKEN egg coming before or after a CHICKEN.
Chicken first. The end. |
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Aug 21 2006, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Aug 1 2006, 2:44 PM) i think the chicken elvoled from something else and then laid the first chicken egg word, even though evolution is just a theory..
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Nov 27 2006, 04:46 PM
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the chicken came first, but i am sorry to ask, why does it have wings if it dont fly?
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Dec 31 2006, 02:55 AM
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i think the egg. and then evolution slowly took place. you need the egg before the evolution, correct? if the chicken went through evolution..it's not it can teach itself to pop out a new egg.
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Jun 22 2009, 07:07 PM
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if you ask me, neither came first. they both arrived at the same time in the space ship that thor sent from heaven.
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Jun 22 2009, 07:16 PM
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the egg
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Jun 22 2009, 07:24 PM
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A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against the headboard, smoking a cigarette, with a satisfied smirk on his face. The egg, looking pissed off, grabs the sheet and rolls over, and says, "Well, it looks like we answered that question!"
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Jun 22 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 22 2009, 08:24 PM) A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against the headboard, smoking a cigarette, with a satisfied smirk on his face. The egg, looking pissed off, grabs the sheet and rolls over, and says, "Well, it looks like we answered that question!" hahaha xD |
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Jun 22 2009, 08:01 PM
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dinosaurs laid eggs before chickens were around so...
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Jun 22 2009, 08:27 PM
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the egg
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Jun 22 2009, 08:32 PM
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Jun 23 2009, 05:38 AM
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Egg with mutated chromosomesss ---> chicken
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Jul 20 2009, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 22 2009, 08:24 PM) A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against the headboard, smoking a cigarette, with a satisfied smirk on his face. The egg, looking pissed off, grabs the sheet and rolls over, and says, "Well, it looks like we answered that question!" lmao |
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Jul 20 2009, 07:28 PM
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The egg came first.
If the debate was "Which came first, the chicken or it's egg?", then the answer would be the chicken. |
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Jul 21 2009, 11:02 AM
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I'd have to say the chicken. The chicken is probably some spontaneaous mutation of some other bird.
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Jul 21 2009, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jul 20 2009, 07:28 PM) The egg came first. If the debate was "Which came first, the chicken or it's egg?", then the answer would be the chicken. This post def wins. |
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Jul 21 2009, 12:00 PM
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uhh neither, lizard-fish came first!
 ...we should be more concered about this: 
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Jul 21 2009, 12:02 PM
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Chicken.
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Jul 21 2009, 12:13 PM
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I'm going to say the chicken, I am a firm believer in creationism.
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Jul 21 2009, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(liquidice @ Jul 21 2009, 12:02 PM) I'd have to say the chicken. The chicken is probably some spontaneaous mutation of some other bird. Not "spontaneous", but the chicken is likely a cross-breed of the red and grey junglefowl. |
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Jul 21 2009, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(ima_fake_ @ Jul 29 2006, 08:55 PM) ummm... what came first the chicken or the egg... kathleen posted someething saying there are no stupid questions so im asking one... but its not stupid... its logical... hope this doesnt get moved to food.. it doesnt belong there! o and hope theres no other posts on this... neways back to questionnnnnn... CHICKEN OR EGG!?!?The chicken Kill yourself. |
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Jul 21 2009, 01:37 PM
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Going to say chicken.
The question implies that the egg is a chicken's egg. The dinosaur comment was clever, but irrelevant to the debate. We're talking about chickens and their eggs. That being said, I believe the chicken was created by God, but from an evolutionary standpoint (theoretical) I would say the egg came first. Macro-evolution is the evolution of an entire species slowly but surely. The chicken as we know it today has its own genetic code and DNA. This is why chickens continue to pop out an egg and create another chicken with the same genetic makeup. Logically, the life form that is a genetic mutation away from becoming a chicken can already produce an egg, and is just one step from being the complete chicken. At the point where it creates that egg, the egg possesses all the characteristics of a chicken.. That was a long winded, very circular theory. As are all evolutionary theories.... |
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Jul 21 2009, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(illriginal @ Jul 21 2009, 02:10 PM) The chicken Kill yourself. agreed! wait, whos dumb enough to ask the chicken question?
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Jul 21 2009, 04:15 PM
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Well, breakfast does come before dinner...
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Jul 21 2009, 04:37 PM
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bacteria came first
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Jul 21 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(AutumnSunsets @ Jul 21 2009, 12:00 PM) ...we should be more concerned about this: I'd be pretty concerned about naked men using the computer. |
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