Junk Food, Restrict availability Options

[EmeraldKnight]

Alrighty.. moving away from religion.. how's this for a topic?
I'm going to structure this policy debate style, but very condensed and with no cited evidence cards (because I dont want to actually search, but I've argued this before, both sides)

Obesity is such a huge problem in the United States now.. and not just because of genetics, but because of lifestyle, and because of the ready availability of junk food and fast food restaurants; Americans live such hectic and stressful lives today that they hardly have any time to eat healthy, and as a result, obesity has become a significant problem in society today. Therefore, the affirmative team resolves that the United States Federal government enact a plan that substantially reduces the amount of obesity in the United States

Contention I: Harms+Significance:
a. Obesity is now one of the leading killers of American citizens today
Therefore, this problem extremely severe and something must be done

b. Fast food restaurants exist in such great numbers and availability, and with such cheap prices and are much more convenient than preparing food ourselves

Contention II: Inherency
a. No regulations exist on the fast food companies; regulations exist to make sure that the food meets FDA standards in safety, but not in healthiness

The Plan:
Impose regulations on fast food companies to make them reduce the amount of fats, sodium, and calories in the products they sell
Compliance is mandatory or they cannot operate

Contention III: Solvency
By forcing the fast food restaurants to comply to these regulations, we make the American diet more healthy for the large number of ppl that rely on fast food restaurants, and thus we create a more healthier, America with a smaller obese population

If all fast food restaurants comply, consumers WILL have to eat healthy or they'll have to go and cook their own meals (which will most likely be healthier than the current fast food meals); and since most of the consumers that eat fast food do so because they dont have the time to do otherwise, they most likely dont have much time to exercise and this would force them to be healthier

Contention IV: Topicality
Does not apply here since no research is needed and there isnt a global resolution to adhere to

*Minda, I know this sucks, I acknowledge that.. I made it up in a 30 second time span cuz I was bored and I wanted to see just how lame a topic I could create and hopefully argue somewhat efficiently*

I am now open to cross examination and points of clarification (ppl I know its a lame/mundane topic, but seeing as how all the emphasis was on religion and not getting anywhere, at least give me credit for an original topic; if its too lame or something, mods feel free to delete or close this topic)

[Spirited Away]

I don't think it's lame, I think it's a pretty serious issue.

But I don't know how to argue it because I'm for eating healthy, but I'm sort of against government regulations, especially when it seems so strict.

So I'll stand by and read what everyone else says.

[EmeraldKnight]

I don't think it's lame, I think it's a pretty serious issue.

Haha thanks!

But I don't know how to argue it because I'm for eating healthy, but I'm sort of against government regulations, especially when it seems so strict.

So I'll stand by and read what everyone else says.

Haha.. Minda's going to absolutely destroy this when he sees it though.. I can already see so many flaws

[ComradeRed]

Neg Structure:

VP of Liberty
VC od Personal Choice

Contention I: Why ther hell is it anyone else's business how I kill myself?

Contetnion II: If you abolish fast food, you get the same problems as in the drug war with crime and black markets, that cause much more harm to society than obesity itself.

[WildGriffin]

Run some anti-fatty food campaigns.

Ideas:
Show a fat mother roll over onto her kid and gently smother him to death.
Angle: Fat Kills

Show a fat girl get pregnant due to her lack of self-esteem brought on by fatty foods; she's so desperate she'll do anything just to feel loved.
Angle: Fat gets you pregnant.

Show a fat guy just sitting in his basement eating ho-hos, sending his brother to get him more food and such.
Angle: Fat makes you lazy.

Show a fat kid ordering a certain amount of food daily in a montage that spans a couple of weeks. Show the same fat kid "upping the dosage" by ordering 6 burgers instead of 5.
Angle: Fat leads to harder fatty foods.

Uh, i got nothing. Go ask the anti-drug peoples, they'll spin it into a million different ways if you ask nicely.

[ComradeRed]

If you spin it enough, you can make a good case for abolishing bread:

- More than 98% of convicted felons are bread users.
- Fully HALF of all children who grew up in bread consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
- In the 18th century, where virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were exceptionally high; many women died in childbirth and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever and influenza ravaged whole nations.
- More than 90% of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
- Bread is made from a substance called “dough.” It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month.
- Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer’s Disease, Parkinson’s Disease as well as osteoporosis.
- Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread in as little as two days.
- Newborn babies can choke on bread.
- Bread is baked in temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute
- Bread has proven to absorb water. Since the human body is 90% water, it follows that eating bread could lead your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey, bread pudding person.
- Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babble.

[WildGriffin]

- More than 98% of convicted felons are bread users.
- Fully HALF of all children who grew up in bread consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
- In the 18th century, where virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were exceptionally high; many women died in childbirth and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever and influenza ravaged whole nations.
- More than 90% of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
- Bread is made from a substance called “dough.” It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month.
- Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer’s Disease, Parkinson’s Disease as well as osteoporosis.
- Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread in as little as two days.
- Newborn babies can choke on bread.
- Bread is baked in temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute
- Bread has proven to absorb water. Since the human body is 90% water, it follows that eating bread could lead your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey, bread pudding person.
- Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babble.

Didn't you already say that before. In a previous thread...yeah i think you did. You phony. Hey guys, this guy's a phony. Phony!

No, it's cool. I laughed the first time I saw it.

[angel-roh]

hmm... yeah i agree that they shud lower the calorie and lower the fats... hmm good argument. but they are ppls who jus want to eat candies everyday and eat fat foods everyday... they cant help it cus it's so addictive and they jus feel like they wana eat it again and again...like wen someone drinks a beer, they get addicted to it and drink it everyday... so i think the goverment shud tell the fast food restaurant pps to lower them so ppls dont end up dying!! gez so many ppls are dying in this world... i guess it's meant to be. like their purpose?

wow!!

i love you rplan and i really think that it would work!! good job!!

[Mireh]

Well, first off, you would be restricting on a person's right to eat unhealthy foods. If a person WANTS to eat foods like that, let them. They know that they are at risk with themselves. Let them get fat and suffer.

Ok, I'll stop before I get flamed.

[WildGriffin]

Well, first off, you would be restricting on a person's right to eat unhealthy foods. If a person WANTS to eat foods like that, let them. They know that they are at risk with themselves. Let them get fat and suffer. 

Ok, I'll stop before I get flamed

Well, then drugs should be legal for the same exact reason.

[Retrogressive]

yea and lets make it illegal to commit suicide they will never see that comming, if you kill your self by drowning * you'll pay!
man, you can't force people to eat healthy! thats on the verge of communisiom... or dictatorship... whatever.

[Retrogressive]

next form of action:: make black people stay out of the sun and bleach their skin. cause there are a lot of black people in america... that could be unhealthy O.O!!!!

don't force someone to be something they are not. everyone has self-abuse habits eating is some peoples, why don't you go make the anerexics healthy? or the bulimics? or the cutters? shesh!

[Spirited Away]

You can't force someone to eat healthy, but you can certainly make the CHOICES for healthy food available for easy access.

McDonals started to have chicken salad in their menu a while ago because of the healthy food rave.

If all fast food chains were to make healthy foods as readily available to the public as unhealthy foods, then there wouldn't be a problem of people not being able to do what they want because of governent reguations.

[Retrogressive]

if you feel strongly about this topic you need to see the independant film called super size me. it's about a guys... i think three month trail of eating only mcdonalds food, and what it does to your body, i think its going to be very interesting this movie was the thing that made mcdonalds stop letting people super size their meals.

[Spirited Away]

if you feel strongly about this topic you need to see the independant film called super size me. it's about a guys... i think three month trail of eating only mcdonalds food, and what it does to your body, i think its going to be very interesting this movie was the thing that made mcdonalds stop letting people super size their meals.

I don't get it... sorry if you think I'm slow..

but are you for or against regulations? I'm thinking that you're against it.. but just to make sure.

[Retrogressive]

yes i think it's a very communist thing to do, but if you want to fight about it know your stuff. the movie is very convincing.

[Spirited Away]

yes i think it's a very communist thing to do, but if you want to fight about it know your stuff. the movie is very convincing.

I don't have to watch the movie to know my stuff... the movie, as a media, would only make me biased.

I'm suggesting that instead of banning fast food (which is an absurd notion that will never happen), there can be regulations for fast food restaurants to provide junk food as well as healthy food.

Can you elaborate on how this sort of regulation would be communistic?

[Retrogressive]

first of all the movie is all reality (hahaha) it is a documentary i thought since you are obviously for this topic that you might find it interesting... sorry.. ?

eh... these rules and regulations support equal distribution of healthy foods making it harder to gain fatty foods or "unhealthy" foods. something like this could lead to the banning of ciggarettes.. that could lead to the banning of acohol after all aren't these all "unhealthy"? then that of course could lead to the banning of drugs (bet you saw that comming) that could lead to the banning of drinks such as sprite (cause caffine would be banned or "distributed healthily" amongst america--- do you see what im thinking? this could lead to things such as equal rations of healthy foods which is (eh) communism. maybe this could be the extreme but the extreme has been known to happen in the past.

[Spirited Away]

first of all the movie is all reality (hahaha) it is a documentary i thought since you are obviously for this topic that you might find it interesting... sorry.. ?

If you would read the second post (mine), you would know that I'm arguing for the sake of making conversation because I really do not have a stand on it.

eh... these rules and regulations support equal distribution of healthy foods making it harder to gain fatty foods or "unhealthy" foods. something like this could lead to the banning of ciggarettes.. that could lead to the banning of acohol after all aren't these all "unhealthy"? then that of course could lead to the banning of drugs (bet you saw that comming) that could lead to the banning of drinks such as sprite (cause caffine would be banned or "distributed healthily" amongst america--- do you see what im thinking? this could lead to things such as equal rations of healthy foods which is (eh) communism. maybe this could be the extreme but the extreme has been known to happen in the past.

I don't see how offering healthy as well as unhealthy food would cause a calamity econmic wise. After all, fast food chains would be making more money because they're selling things that would interest all sorts of people: the ones who wants to eat healthy and the ones who do not care for healthy food.

[Retrogressive]

there are already markets and restaurants that support this... so whats the deal???

[IIO__oII]

stop with all the "atkins" and low carb diets and start EXERSIZING! move those fat thighs!

[Spirited Away]

there are already markets and restaurants that support this... so whats the deal???

Then... what is the problem?

I don't get it.

I suppose the whole movement is to make the major fast food chains to carry healthy foods as well.

[WildGriffin]

I rememeber seeing a trial/experiment were a guy ate only mcdonalds meals for breakfest/lunch/and dinner. Think he gained like 40 pounds after a month, i'll go find a link.

[tkproduce]

I heard some 3 year-old kid died from obesity by choking on his own fat.