Foie Gras Banned in Chicago Restaurants. |
 Apr 27 2006, 08:06 AM
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 × Dead as Dillinger. ♥  Group: Member Posts: 1,527 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,615  |
In case you didn't know, foie gras {Fwa-grah} is a French delicacy, a pate made from goose liver. I've never tried it, but I dunno if I want to..liver..
 I'm not sure when it happened, but when I woke up I was watching the news and they were talking about how foie gras was now officially banned, no chefs could serve it anymore. Their reason? They say that it's animal cruelty, because, supposedly, they force-feed the geese to make the liver meatier or healthier or something. Knowing this, would you still want to try foie gras? I'm kind of split on the subject. Anything having to do with force-feeding makes me feel ill, but then again, you always hear about how cruel furiers {Spelling?} are to animals before they kill them to use their fur. And who knows what livestock go through before they're killed for their meat.. Edit: I guess I should have posted this in the Foods forum. Oh well. This post has been edited by x__Elle.: Apr 27 2006, 08:52 AM |
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Apr 27 2006, 08:33 AM
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 Chantal-Denise Group: Member Posts: 123 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 249,845 |
animal cruelty = nono.
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Apr 27 2006, 09:41 AM
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 say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
I have tried it before but I don't like the taste of it.
I've heard that foie gras is no longer imported to HK so the storage should run out anytime here... |
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Apr 27 2006, 09:55 AM
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 omnomnom Group: Member Posts: 1,776 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 180,688 |
wow, i think they should ban sheep skins too.
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Apr 27 2006, 10:08 AM
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 cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
I dislike the taste of liver anyway, so I wouldn't mind. Though I do like French cuisine.
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Apr 27 2006, 10:31 AM
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 yan lin♥ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 |
Oh, not because of bird flu?
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Apr 29 2006, 10:06 AM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 2,881 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 132,134 |
I don't think i would like to try it
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Apr 29 2006, 11:16 AM
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 for you,i will<3 Group: Member Posts: 37 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 398,267 |
Hmm if you think that animal cruelty isn't bad, you pretty much are a cold-hearted ;; yeah =o). and animals DO feel pain, if anyone has ever been to peta.com they show how bad they beat the animals without a care in the world.
This post has been edited by GiggleBear: May 1 2006, 12:50 PM |
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Apr 29 2006, 11:18 AM
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 iHumpalot. Group: Member Posts: 130 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 394,367 |
Negative.
I've tried it, I didn't like it.I think it was the simple fact that it was liver that didn't allow me to enjoy the taste. |
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Apr 29 2006, 11:28 AM
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Well, I don't understand why Foie Gras is being banned......Animal Cruelty?
Well, I am ready to be flamed so feel free: Since when were we so 'sensitive' about animal cruelty? 1 simple question : Do you eat meat? If you do, you are participating in animal cruelty. Those animals were born to serve one purpose : our food. They are slaughtered when they are 'nice and meaty' and they are shipped around the world into markets, and you, the customer, is buying that. All those innocent animals being killed...... Is that animal cruelty? Don't think you can deny that. If you are a vegetarian, that does not apply to you. But another question : Are plants living things? Don't think you can deny that again. So animal cruelty is a 'no-no', but 'plant cruelty' is ok......the logic doesnt fit here. So cutting the plants, picking them from the ground and killing them is ok, but killing animals are not ok. Can someone explain? If we seriously care so much about our animals and plants, what the h*** will we eat? I believe we can only accept the fact this world is not fair (since when was it fair? If you want examples feel free to ask) and animal cruelty is inevitable. This world is not an Utopia, so there is no such thing as 'Perfect'. This world isn't those fairy tale worlds where we can live in harmony with animals and somehow not kill any of them and still have food (But they kill plants! This is a part where many forgets). I am not a cold-blooded person who doesn't care about anything. It is just that I believe we should start to get realistic here and accept the truth. Niez_cho : Are you serious? Damn I love eating those things, but are you only talking about citysuper? Over there, French fois gras are not imported anymore but they are starting to import Hungarian ones, so I guess I can still eat it. |
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Apr 29 2006, 02:15 PM
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OoO that's horrible.
>.< I don't think I'd ever try Foie Gras =/. |
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Apr 29 2006, 03:24 PM
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× Dead as Dillinger. ♥ Group: Member Posts: 1,527 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,615 |
QUOTE(typh-a-knee @ Apr 29 2006, 11:18 AM)  I've tried it, I didn't like it.I think it was the simple fact that it was liver that didn't allow me to enjoy the taste. I know how that goes. Even if it tastes really good, the thought that it's a gross body part sticks in my mind.QUOTE(doom_diver @ Apr 29 2006, 11:28 AM) So animal cruelty is a 'no-no', but 'plant cruelty' is ok......the logic doesnt fit here. So cutting the plants, picking them from the ground and killing them is ok, but killing animals are not ok. Can someone explain? Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with you, but 'plant cruelty?'  You must be joking.  We can't be cruel to plants, because I HIGHLY doubt they can feel pain.
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Apr 29 2006, 04:18 PM
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 Change Gon Come Group: Member Posts: 2,286 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,822 |
two words:
factory farming. it's how most of the world gets its meat. |
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Apr 29 2006, 10:28 PM
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x_elle : But are they living things? They may not feel pain but they are still being killed ......
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Apr 29 2006, 11:49 PM
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 Dragon Ball Z ya! :D Group: Member Posts: 158 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,803 |
goose liver = bad.
on the plane trip back from france i ate patte and puked 4 times. wooo! |
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Apr 30 2006, 12:15 AM
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iHumpalot. Group: Member Posts: 130 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 394,367 |
Honestly you know what.
I could give two craps less about animal cruelty. When people back in the day ate meat, whether it was scarce or not, people never thought about animals. Now all of a sudden, when it's more affordable and available we're considering THESE ANIMALS EMOTIONS??? Are you kidding me?! The life cycle is there for a reason. People didn't randomly decide to go cow hunting one day. Some animals are meant to be eaten by humans for survival. Yes I do agree, it isn't the nicest procedure in the world but hey, sh*t happens. |
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Apr 30 2006, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(×__Elle. @ Apr 29 2006, 4:24 PM) because I HIGHLY doubt they can feel pain. Sure about that? |
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May 1 2006, 12:38 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
QUOTE(doom_diver @ Apr 30 2006, 12:28 AM) Well, I don't understand why Foie Gras is being banned......Animal Cruelty? Well, I am ready to be flamed so feel free: Since when were we so 'sensitive' about animal cruelty? 1 simple question : Do you eat meat? If you do, you are participating in animal cruelty. Those animals were born to serve one purpose : our food. They are slaughtered when they are 'nice and meaty' and they are shipped around the world into markets, and you, the customer, is buying that. All those innocent animals being killed...... Is that animal cruelty? Don't think you can deny that. If you are a vegetarian, that does not apply to you. But another question : Are plants living things? Don't think you can deny that again. So animal cruelty is a 'no-no', but 'plant cruelty' is ok......the logic doesnt fit here. So cutting the plants, picking them from the ground and killing them is ok, but killing animals are not ok. Can someone explain? If we seriously care so much about our animals and plants, what the h*** will we eat? I believe we can only accept the fact this world is not fair (since when was it fair? If you want examples feel free to ask) and animal cruelty is inevitable. This world is not an Utopia, so there is no such thing as 'Perfect'. This world isn't those fairy tale worlds where we can live in harmony with animals and somehow not kill any of them and still have food (But they kill plants! This is a part where many forgets). I am not a cold-blooded person who doesn't care about anything. It is just that I believe we should start to get realistic here and accept the truth. Niez_cho : Are you serious? Damn I love eating those things, but are you only talking about citysuper? Over there, French fois gras are not imported anymore but they are starting to import Hungarian ones, so I guess I can still eat it.  Wow, nicely said.It's not that a single person can really affect the number of animals being cruelly treated or killed everyday. And I think they've only banned the French ones, not the ones from other countries. So yeah. |
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May 1 2006, 12:42 AM
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 Bada-bing, bada-boom. Group: Member Posts: 452 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 86,111 |
Ah, comida. To be honest, it usually depends on my mood, but as a general rule, I'd probably be okay eating it.
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May 1 2006, 08:27 AM
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× Dead as Dillinger. ♥ Group: Member Posts: 1,527 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,615 |
QUOTE(doom_diver @ Apr 29 2006, 10:28 PM) x_elle : But are they living things? They may not feel pain but they are still being killed ...... Who cares? Like typh-a-knee said, that's life. They're freaking plants.What about exterminators who come to your house to kill your termites? You want to start talking about bug cruelty as well? In fact, maybe all of us should watch our step, so we don't walk on ants or worms or any other form of life on the ground below us. Because that's pretty cruel as well.. |
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May 1 2006, 11:49 AM
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oh honestly. plant cruelty.
as if they are bothered by being grown in cramped condidtions, really. and anyway, even if they CAN feel pain, they CANNOT show clear signs of distress, which is no ttrue of animals |
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May 1 2006, 11:58 AM
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 We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
QUOTE(doom_diver @ Apr 29 2006, 12:28 PM) Well, I don't understand why Foie Gras is being banned......Animal Cruelty? Well, I am ready to be flamed so feel free: Since when were we so 'sensitive' about animal cruelty? 1 simple question : Do you eat meat? If you do, you are participating in animal cruelty. Those animals were born to serve one purpose : our food. They are slaughtered when they are 'nice and meaty' and they are shipped around the world into markets, and you, the customer, is buying that. All those innocent animals being killed...... Is that animal cruelty? Don't think you can deny that. If you are a vegetarian, that does not apply to you. But another question : Are plants living things? Don't think you can deny that again. So animal cruelty is a 'no-no', but 'plant cruelty' is ok......the logic doesnt fit here. So cutting the plants, picking them from the ground and killing them is ok, but killing animals are not ok. Can someone explain? If we seriously care so much about our animals and plants, what the h*** will we eat? I believe we can only accept the fact this world is not fair (since when was it fair? If you want examples feel free to ask) and animal cruelty is inevitable. This world is not an Utopia, so there is no such thing as 'Perfect'. This world isn't those fairy tale worlds where we can live in harmony with animals and somehow not kill any of them and still have food (But they kill plants! This is a part where many forgets). I am not a cold-blooded person who doesn't care about anything. It is just that I believe we should start to get realistic here and accept the truth. Niez_cho : Are you serious? Damn I love eating those things, but are you only talking about citysuper? Over there, French fois gras are not imported anymore but they are starting to import Hungarian ones, so I guess I can still eat it. Plants are not conscious, intelligent sentients, so while it's true that they are alive, it's not cruel to eat them. |
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May 1 2006, 01:33 PM
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nicorie Group: Member Posts: 196 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 394,679 |
i don't like liver in the first place
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May 1 2006, 07:23 PM
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oh, yummy
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May 1 2006, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 3,459 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 328,021 |
I like to eat liver, but I wouldn't eat foie gras. Just the thought of them force-feeding the geese..
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May 1 2006, 07:26 PM
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CB's Forum Troll Group: Member Posts: 926 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,142 |
QUOTE(waccoon @ May 1 2006, 12:58 PM) Plants are not conscious, intelligent sentients, so while it's true that they are alive, it's not cruel to eat them. oh hell naw, hes got a good point "No you didn't. You didn't say gg in the "foie gras" post. Hah." gg andie loses |
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May 1 2006, 07:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 3,459 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 328,021 |
Actually, waccoon would be a "she". Named Amy, I believe.
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May 1 2006, 07:28 PM
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CB's Forum Troll Group: Member Posts: 926 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,142 |
i meant the guy that she quoted
and waccoon plays RO how cool is that |
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May 2 2006, 08:15 AM
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We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
QUOTE(Smoogrish @ May 1 2006, 8:28 PM) Actually, waccoon would be a "she". Named Amy, I believe. ... |
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May 2 2006, 09:47 AM
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yan lin♥ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 |
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
 Waccoon, as his gender sign says is male, named Nick. And as I've said before, BIRD FLU ALERT |
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May 2 2006, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 3,459 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 328,021 |
 I didn't say anything... oops. Weird, though. I could've sworn his name was Amy. Did you get a name and gender change, by any chance? |
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May 3 2006, 07:21 AM
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say maydayism. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,447 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 26,344 |
^
In regarding to Yan Lin's post, I don't think bird flu will actually affect the liver. Oh well I don't know. |
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May 3 2006, 08:33 AM
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Well if you are christian or catholic:
"Thou shall not kill" Killing plants is still killing, so you broke the 10 commandments |
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May 3 2006, 08:36 AM
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We are the cure. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,936 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,456 |
QUOTE(doom_diver @ May 3 2006, 9:33 AM) Well if you are christian or catholic: "Thou shall not kill" Killing plants is still killing, so you broke the 10 commandments Take a better look at the bible, please. |
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May 4 2006, 09:57 PM
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× Dead as Dillinger. ♥ Group: Member Posts: 1,527 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,615 |
QUOTE(doom_diver @ May 3 2006, 8:33 AM) Well if you are christian or catholic: This arguement is rather weak. =/"Thou shall not kill" Killing plants is still killing, so you broke the 10 commandments I believe it means, "Thou shall not kill people"?  & Plus every Catholic or Christian would be going to hell if that statement alone were true; it's nearly impossible that there's a Christian out there who hasn't stepped on a bug or ran over a small animal while driving. o_0 |
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May 4 2006, 10:21 PM
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 Sharie. Group: Member Posts: 2,429 Joined: Dec 2003 Member No: 103 |
QUOTE(doom_diver @ Apr 29 2006, 9:28 AM) Well, I don't understand why Foie Gras is being banned......Animal Cruelty? Well, I am ready to be flamed so feel free: Since when were we so 'sensitive' about animal cruelty? 1 simple question : Do you eat meat? If you do, you are participating in animal cruelty. Those animals were born to serve one purpose : our food. They are slaughtered when they are 'nice and meaty' and they are shipped around the world into markets, and you, the customer, is buying that. All those innocent animals being killed...... Is that animal cruelty? Don't think you can deny that. If you are a vegetarian, that does not apply to you. But another question : Are plants living things? Don't think you can deny that again. So animal cruelty is a 'no-no', but 'plant cruelty' is ok......the logic doesnt fit here. So cutting the plants, picking them from the ground and killing them is ok, but killing animals are not ok. Can someone explain? If we seriously care so much about our animals and plants, what the h*** will we eat? I believe we can only accept the fact this world is not fair (since when was it fair? If you want examples feel free to ask) and animal cruelty is inevitable. This world is not an Utopia, so there is no such thing as 'Perfect'. This world isn't those fairy tale worlds where we can live in harmony with animals and somehow not kill any of them and still have food (But they kill plants! This is a part where many forgets). I am not a cold-blooded person who doesn't care about anything. It is just that I believe we should start to get realistic here and accept the truth. Niez_cho : Are you serious? Damn I love eating those things, but are you only talking about citysuper? Over there, French fois gras are not imported anymore but they are starting to import Hungarian ones, so I guess I can still eat it. Haha you're cool. I don't think the point is whether or not killing plants are cruel or not, really. I guess people use the theory of evolution, Survival of the Fittest, to say we have the stronger genes, we will survive over the animals and such. It's like, now that you have things easily, you're caring about the emotions of the animal. Like you're giving yourself new problems (after worrying about eating, you worry about their emotions). I don't have a point of view for animal cruelty though. I've seen some videos of how they treat animals before and after the process of slaughter and it's pretty horrid D: |
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May 5 2006, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE So animal cruelty is a 'no-no', but 'plant cruelty' is ok......the logic doesnt fit here. So cutting the plants, picking them from the ground and killing them is ok, but killing animals are not ok. Can someone explain? Define what cruelty is first. i think it's natural to slaughter one another since we're part of the "living things". Plants do kill others, do you know that? The world is like the survival of the fittest. Since we're dominant and "mature" enough to determine our future and how we want to shape other creatures. Like ... preserving endanger animals, save animal's life so they can reproduce ... then we eat 'em. The whole idea of animal/ plant cruelty is base on people's emotions and heart that leads to societies issues. |
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