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*Kathleen* |
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Did Kurt Cobain truly kill himself, or is it all a conspiracy?
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I think we should remember him for what he did during his life. How he died is unimportant compared to his contribution to modern music.
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![]() - kuupi! ♥- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 937 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,148 ![]() |
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow they came out and said it wasn't a suicide. There's just something about that whole thing that doesn't seem right to me...
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personally, i don't think it was a suicide either... no where in the suicide note did he say he was actually committing suicide, and band members said that he was writing a note regarding his resignation from Nirvana, which was never found. Also, experts question the handwriting at the end, where he says he loves his daughter and stuff...
Just my two cents!! Kathleen, great thread ![]() Thanks for the comment, by the way!! |
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*Kathleen* |
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QUOTE I think we should remember him for what he did during his life. How he died is unimportant compared to his contribution to modern music. Yes, I agree, but there are so many people out there that don't give him credit and say ignorant stuff such as, "Oh, teen angst all the way! Let me go shoot my brains out!" That to me, is utterly rude. I'm posting this in here for all those that think he did kill himself. |
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 18 2004, 7:17 PM) Yes, I agree, but there are so many people out there that don't give him credit and say ignorant stuff such as, "Oh, teen angst all the way! Let me go shoot my brains out!" That to me, is utterly rude. I'm posting this in here for all those that think he did kill himself. Well, that's what critics do, isn't it. |
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*Kathleen* |
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If you mean critics as in music critics, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about stubborn, incompetent people in everyday life...peers, I suppose.
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 18 2004, 8:36 PM) If you mean critics as in music critics, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about stubborn, incompetent people in everyday life...peers, I suppose. well, everyone is stubborn in their own kind of ways aren't they? If I hated rock or grunge and couldn't care less about Kurt Cobain, I'll probably have said whatever your peers might have said. |
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*Kathleen* |
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Ack...forget it...we're getting off topic.
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kathleen, what is your opinion? do you think he killed himself? or do you think he was murdered?
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*Kathleen* |
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Oh pft I definitely thing he was murdered! STUPID COURTNEY LOVE! BAH! Heh. Sorry. But yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that makes it seem as it is; then again, you wonder if it's all media hype, you know. I honestly don't think he killed himself. Did you ever read stuff on that site? You should go to it. I'll post some of the points up there later...kind of lazy now.
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 25 2004, 2:18 PM) Oh pft I definitely thing he was murdered! STUPID COURTNEY LOVE! BAH! Heh. Sorry. But yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that makes it seem as it is; then again, you wonder if it's all media hype, you know. I honestly don't think he killed himself. Did you ever read stuff on that site? You should go to it. I'll post some of the points up there later...kind of lazy now. ![]() yeah i read his journal too!! and he totally didn't seeme like he wanted to be suicidal, even up until a month before it happened. he WAS talking about leaving Nirvana though... |
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*Kathleen* |
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And also, just look at all the stuff he planned on doing...I don't think he'd just quit on that stuff quite easily. He started designing the Jagstang for Fender and all that type of stuff...I don't think he was planning on not completing those projects.
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We wouldn't have Foo Fighters today if Nirvana didn't split then, so I can't really say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing.
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I try not to think of his death but more rather his life dedicated to music. LONG LIVE NIRVANA!
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*Kathleen* |
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QUOTE We wouldn't have Foo Fighters today if Nirvana didn't split then, so I can't really say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing. I'm sure Dave Grohl would've formed the band anyways. |
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i'm actually glad he's dead. if he were still alive, grunge would be ruling the world and in order to rebel i'd hafta be some kinda thug and i don't wanna be a thug.
nirvana is the second most overrated band ever, next to the beatles. |
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QUOTE next to the beatles. Well, at least the beatles had more then one good song. |
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QUOTE Well, at least the beatles had more then one good song. Blah! I hope you're not talking about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...that song should be...shot...haha. |
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QUOTE Blah! I hope you're not talking about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...that song should be...shot...haha. Haha...i have to admit tho. The first time i heard it, i was all ![]() ![]() ![]() Until...i heard it 500 more times. Most. Hyped. Song. Ever. |
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*Kathleen* |
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Haha.
QUOTE Most. Hyped. Song. Ever. Something we agree on. ![]() |
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QUOTE Something we agree on. ![]() ![]() Hear that? It's the sound of the universe imploding and armageddon coming...and other things that signify our argreement as an apocolyptic event. ....yeahhhhh. |
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Haha.
![]() AHH THE WORLD IS GOING TO END! Wow. Yeah - it's quite a shocker. ![]() |
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QUOTE Wow. Yeah - it's quite a shocker. Yeah, you're finally right! ![]() I keed I keed. |
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QUOTE "I feel guilty beyond words about these things -- for example, when we're backstage and the light go out and the roar of the crowd begins, it doesn't affect me the way in which it did for Freddie Mercury, who seemed to love and relish the love and adoration of the crowd." "Which is something I totally admire and envy. The fact that I can't fool you, any one of you, it simply isn't fair to you or to me. The worst crime I could think of would be to pull people off by faking it, pretending as if I'm having 100% fun" "Sometimes I feel as I should have a punch-in time-clock before I walk out on stage. I've tried everything within my power to appreciate it, and I do, God believe me I do, but it's not enough. I appreciate the fact that I and we have effected and entertained a lot of people. I must be one of those narcissists who only appreciate things when they're alone. I'm too sensitive. I need to be slightly numb in order to regain the enthusiasm I once had as a child. On our last 3 tours I've had a much better appreciation of all the people I know personally, and as fans of our music, but I still can't get out the frustration to gather the empathy I have for everybody. There's good in all of us and I simply love people too much." "So much that it makes me feel just too f**king sad. Sad little sensative unappreciative Pieces --" "I had a good marriage, and for that I'm grateful. But since the age of seven, I've become hateful toward all humans in general only because it seems so easy for people to get along that have empathy." "Only because I love and feel for people too much I guess Thank you all from the pit of my burning nauseous stomach for your letters and concern during the last years. I'm pretty much of an erratic moody person and I don't have the passion anymore. Peace, Love, Empathy, Kurt Cobain." does that sound like a suicide note? |
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allright. Lets discuss how he died. In my OWN opinion heres what I think:
Actauly. I don't think it was Courtney, nor, do I think It was a SUICIDE. I think it was Michael Dewitt. He was there male nanny. I think that maby he was jelous of Kurt...and he killed him for the publicity. But, after pulling the trigger, he freaked out. He perhaps, made it look like a suscide. Also, maby he was under paied, but I doubt that because, I dunno...thats just not enugh reason to kill such a rad person. But, as they say..."Money= murder." Wait...only I saw that. Or, my other idea... But whatever... Maby, since, the nanny was so underpaied, maby, Courtney love PAIED him do to it. But, why would Love want the love of her life dead? Maby because she was worried about him getting more fames (Famouser?) than her... It COULDENT be him. Studdies show that he injected himself with 3 TIMES THE LEATHAL DOSE OF HEROIN! Thats way more that the biggest addict! Becuase he had done this, studies also show that there is NO WAY he could pick up that gun, much less pull the trigger. Go here for more facts: CLICK FOR MORE FACTS ABOUT KURT'S DEATH I see no one has a comment on this...*sigh*alone, as always... ![]() Is anyone going to talk to me? I have 20 vues, but no replyes, ![]() |
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There's been a topic on this though. :-/
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QUOTE(evdxgirl @ Aug 30 2004, 6:25 PM) There's been a topic on this though. :-/ There has... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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interesting...
i heard somewhere that at the time of his death that he was so stoned it was physically impossible for him to pick up the gun, let alone pull the trigger... but who knows, i could be wrong. |
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*goes to find link* ..i think elba made that thread? BEEE RIGHT BACK.
edit: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...c=13067&hl=kurt oops..kathleen started it. i always get those 2 confused..i dont know why. ![]() somebody close this please. This post has been edited by evdxgirl: Aug 30 2004, 06:53 PM |
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From what i know/believe...he commited suicide.
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woooo the kurt cobain case...
murder is included in the whole celebrity thing ya kno? jus like tu pac's case, its never what meets the eye... noe wut im sayin? |
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QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Aug 30 2004, 6:45 PM) interesting... i heard somewhere that at the time of his death that he was so stoned it was physically impossible for him to pick up the gun, let alone pull the trigger... but who knows, i could be wrong. Your right. I said that dident I....Hmmm... |
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Actauly. I don't think it was Courtney, nor, do I think It was a SUICIDE. I think it was Michael Dewitt. He was there male nanny. I think that maby he was jelous of Kurt...and he killed him for the publicity. But, after pulling the trigger, he freaked out. He perhaps, made it look like a suscide. Also, maby he was under paied, but I doubt that because, I dunno...thats just not enugh reason to kill such a rad person. But, as they say..."Money= murder." Wait...only I saw that.
Or, my other idea... But whatever... Maby, since, the nanny was so underpaied, maby, Courtney love PAIED him do to it. But, why would Love want the love of her life dead? Maby because she was worried about him getting more fames (Famouser?) than her... It COULDENT be him. Studdies show that he injected himself with 3 TIMES THE LEATHAL DOSE OF HEROIN! Thats way more that the biggest addict! Becuase he had done this, studies also show that there is NO WAY he could pick up that gun, much less pull the trigger. Go here for more facts: CLICK FOR MORE FACTS ABOUT KURT'S DEATH |
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merged
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i HURD, he dyd commit suicide, frum doin drugz, but actualli I realli dont kno....... i juss dont understand celeb. murderz or celeb. killinz or celeb. suicidalz... itz all so blank to me... ?
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QUOTE(p1nK_p0p @ Aug 31 2004, 11:42 AM) Your right. I said that dident I....Hmmm... oopsie.. sry didn't see yours ![]() |
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 31 2004, 1:28 PM) merged ? wat do u mean by that |
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i always thought hed killed himself...now im not quite so sure he did.
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How about someone... get a ouiji board and ask him yourself.
i still think he is overrated. |
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who is kurt corbin
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wow, it's been a year or something since someone posted in this... ha, I'm bringing it back!
Kurt Cobain was murdered. With the blood-morphine level he had, he wouldn't have been concious long enough for him to pack up his drug paraphenalia, pick up the gun and pull the trigger. He'd have about 3 seconds AT MOST. Usually, when someone buys herione, they expect it to be deluted already. Someone slipped him some china white herione. The pure stuff... and then that person (or someone else who was in on it) shot him and made it look like suicide. The cops didn't investigate thoroughly enough. It looked like suicide, it was a person who was known to be suicidal, they jumped to the conclusion that he killed himself. |
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That's a good point.
I think he's in the Bahamas somewhere chilling with Tupac. |
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I agree with tkproduce, its more important what he did while he was alive. His gift to music is gonna live on forever, so in a sense he will live forever. Im not trying to look like someone who knows all about Nirvana and stuff, but the songs that I have heard, he's incredible. But about his death, i dont think he truly killed himself. He was f**ked up on some sort of drug, and they say he shot himself, but hes been f**ked up before then,why wouldnt he have done it then? i believe it was that chick, i think her name is courtney love? whoever he was with at the time, i think she got jealous and killed him when he was trippin. Obviously theres no way to prove either way, but thats my opinion.
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