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Kurt Cobain
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post May 17 2004, 08:49 PM
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Did Kurt Cobain truly kill himself, or is it all a conspiracy?
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post May 18 2004, 02:18 AM
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I think we should remember him for what he did during his life. How he died is unimportant compared to his contribution to modern music.
 
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post May 18 2004, 09:06 AM
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow they came out and said it wasn't a suicide. There's just something about that whole thing that doesn't seem right to me... ermm.gif
 
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post May 18 2004, 10:59 AM
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personally, i don't think it was a suicide either... no where in the suicide note did he say he was actually committing suicide, and band members said that he was writing a note regarding his resignation from Nirvana, which was never found. Also, experts question the handwriting at the end, where he says he loves his daughter and stuff...

Just my two cents!! Kathleen, great thread biggrin.gif

Thanks for the comment, by the way!!
 
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post May 18 2004, 02:17 PM
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I think we should remember him for what he did during his life. How he died is unimportant compared to his contribution to modern music.

Yes, I agree, but there are so many people out there that don't give him credit and say ignorant stuff such as, "Oh, teen angst all the way! Let me go shoot my brains out!" That to me, is utterly rude. I'm posting this in here for all those that think he did kill himself.
 
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post May 18 2004, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 18 2004, 7:17 PM)
Yes, I agree, but there are so many people out there that don't give him credit and say ignorant stuff such as, "Oh, teen angst all the way! Let me go shoot my brains out!" That to me, is utterly rude. I'm posting this in here for all those that think he did kill himself.

Well, that's what critics do, isn't it.
 
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post May 18 2004, 03:36 PM
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If you mean critics as in music critics, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about stubborn, incompetent people in everyday life...peers, I suppose.
 
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post May 18 2004, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 18 2004, 8:36 PM)
If you mean critics as in music critics, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about stubborn, incompetent people in everyday life...peers, I suppose.

well, everyone is stubborn in their own kind of ways aren't they? If I hated rock or grunge and couldn't care less about Kurt Cobain, I'll probably have said whatever your peers might have said.
 
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post May 18 2004, 04:00 PM
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Ack...forget it...we're getting off topic.
 
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post May 25 2004, 01:53 PM
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kathleen, what is your opinion? do you think he killed himself? or do you think he was murdered?
 
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post May 25 2004, 02:18 PM
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Oh pft I definitely thing he was murdered! STUPID COURTNEY LOVE! BAH! Heh. Sorry. But yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that makes it seem as it is; then again, you wonder if it's all media hype, you know. I honestly don't think he killed himself. Did you ever read stuff on that site? You should go to it. I'll post some of the points up there later...kind of lazy now. rolleyes.gif
 
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post May 25 2004, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 25 2004, 2:18 PM)
Oh pft I definitely thing he was murdered! STUPID COURTNEY LOVE! BAH! Heh. Sorry. But yeah. There's a lot of aspects to it that makes it seem as it is; then again, you wonder if it's all media hype, you know. I honestly don't think he killed himself. Did you ever read stuff on that site? You should go to it. I'll post some of the points up there later...kind of lazy now. rolleyes.gif

yeah i read his journal too!! and he totally didn't seeme like he wanted to be suicidal, even up until a month before it happened. he WAS talking about leaving Nirvana though...
 
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And also, just look at all the stuff he planned on doing...I don't think he'd just quit on that stuff quite easily. He started designing the Jagstang for Fender and all that type of stuff...I don't think he was planning on not completing those projects.
 
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post May 26 2004, 01:53 AM
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We wouldn't have Foo Fighters today if Nirvana didn't split then, so I can't really say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing.
 
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post May 26 2004, 04:03 PM
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I try not to think of his death but more rather his life dedicated to music. LONG LIVE NIRVANA!
 
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post May 26 2004, 06:56 PM
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We wouldn't have Foo Fighters today if Nirvana didn't split then, so I can't really say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing.

I'm sure Dave Grohl would've formed the band anyways.
 
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post May 30 2004, 12:51 AM
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i'm actually glad he's dead. if he were still alive, grunge would be ruling the world and in order to rebel i'd hafta be some kinda thug and i don't wanna be a thug.
nirvana is the second most overrated band ever, next to the beatles.
 
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post May 30 2004, 01:00 AM
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next to the beatles.


Well, at least the beatles had more then one good song.
 
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post May 30 2004, 07:30 PM
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Well, at least the beatles had more then one good song.

Blah! I hope you're not talking about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...that song should be...shot...haha.
 
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post May 30 2004, 07:37 PM
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Blah! I hope you're not talking about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...that song should be...shot...haha.


Haha...i have to admit tho. The first time i heard it, i was all worthy.gif thumbsup.gif worthy.gif

Until...i heard it 500 more times.

Most. Hyped. Song. Ever.
 
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post May 30 2004, 07:44 PM
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Haha.

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Most. Hyped. Song. Ever.

Something we agree on. thumbsup.gif
 
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post May 30 2004, 08:38 PM
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Something we agree on. 



ohmy.gif ....... ohmy.gif

Hear that?

It's the sound of the universe imploding and armageddon coming...and other things that signify our argreement as an apocolyptic event.

....yeahhhhh.
 
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post May 30 2004, 08:44 PM
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Haha. laugh.gif

AHH THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!

Wow. Yeah - it's quite a shocker. tongue.gif
 
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post May 30 2004, 08:49 PM
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Wow. Yeah - it's quite a shocker.


Yeah, you're finally right! tongue.gif

I keed I keed.
 
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post May 30 2004, 10:49 PM
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"I feel guilty beyond words about these things --
for example, when we're backstage and the light go
out and the roar of the crowd begins, it doesn't
affect me the way in which it did for Freddie Mercury,
who seemed to love and relish the love and adoration
of the crowd."

"Which is something I totally admire and envy. The
fact that I can't fool you, any one of you, it simply
isn't fair to you or to me. The worst crime I could
think of would be to pull people off by faking it,
pretending as if I'm having 100% fun"

"Sometimes I feel as I should have a punch-in
time-clock before I walk out on stage. I've tried
everything within my power to appreciate it, and I do,
God believe me I do, but it's not enough. I appreciate
the fact that I and we have effected and entertained
a lot of people. I must be one of those narcissists
who only appreciate things when they're alone. I'm too
sensitive. I need to be slightly numb in order to regain
the enthusiasm I once had as a child. On our last 3 tours
I've had a much better appreciation of all the people
I know personally, and as fans of our music, but I still
can't get out the frustration to gather the empathy I
have for everybody. There's good in all of us and I simply
love people too much."

"So much that it makes me feel just too f**king sad.
Sad little sensative unappreciative Pieces --"

"I had a good marriage, and for that I'm grateful. But
since the age of seven, I've become hateful toward all
humans in general only because it seems so easy for
people to get along that have empathy."

"Only because I love and feel for people too much I guess
Thank you all from the pit of my burning nauseous stomach
for your letters and concern during the last years. I'm
pretty much of an erratic moody person and I don't have the
passion anymore. Peace, Love, Empathy, Kurt Cobain."



does that sound like a suicide note?
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 05:41 PM
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allright. Lets discuss how he died. In my OWN opinion heres what I think:
Actauly. I don't think it was Courtney, nor, do I think It was a SUICIDE. I think it was Michael Dewitt. He was there male nanny. I think that maby he was jelous of Kurt...and he killed him for the publicity. But, after pulling the trigger, he freaked out. He perhaps, made it look like a suscide. Also, maby he was under paied, but I doubt that because, I dunno...thats just not enugh reason to kill such a rad person. But, as they say..."Money= murder." Wait...only I saw that.
Or, my other idea... But whatever...
Maby, since, the nanny was so underpaied, maby, Courtney love PAIED him do to it. But, why would Love want the love of her life dead? Maby because she was worried about him getting more fames (Famouser?) than her...
It COULDENT be him. Studdies show that he injected himself with 3 TIMES THE LEATHAL DOSE OF HEROIN! Thats way more that the biggest addict! Becuase he had done this, studies also show that there is NO WAY he could pick up that gun, much less pull the trigger.
Go here for more facts:
CLICK FOR MORE FACTS ABOUT KURT'S DEATH

I see no one has a comment on this...*sigh*alone, as always... cry.gif

Is anyone going to talk to me? I have 20 vues, but no replyes, sad.gif
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:25 PM
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There's been a topic on this though. :-/
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(evdxgirl @ Aug 30 2004, 6:25 PM)
There's been a topic on this though.  :-/

There has... cry.gif Give me the link. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:45 PM
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interesting...

i heard somewhere that at the time of his death that he was so stoned it was physically impossible for him to pick up the gun, let alone pull the trigger... but who knows, i could be wrong.
 
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*goes to find link* ..i think elba made that thread? BEEE RIGHT BACK.

edit: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...c=13067&hl=kurt

oops..kathleen started it. i always get those 2 confused..i dont know why. blink.gif

somebody close this please.

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post Aug 30 2004, 11:56 PM
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From what i know/believe...he commited suicide.
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 01:41 AM
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woooo the kurt cobain case...
murder is included in the whole celebrity thing ya kno?
jus like tu pac's case, its never what meets the eye...
noe wut im sayin?
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Aug 30 2004, 6:45 PM)
interesting...

i heard somewhere that at the time of his death that he was so stoned it was physically impossible for him to pick up the gun, let alone pull the trigger... but who knows, i could be wrong.

Your right. I said that dident I....Hmmm...
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 10:43 AM
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Actauly. I don't think it was Courtney, nor, do I think It was a SUICIDE. I think it was Michael Dewitt. He was there male nanny. I think that maby he was jelous of Kurt...and he killed him for the publicity. But, after pulling the trigger, he freaked out. He perhaps, made it look like a suscide. Also, maby he was under paied, but I doubt that because, I dunno...thats just not enugh reason to kill such a rad person. But, as they say..."Money= murder." Wait...only I saw that.
Or, my other idea... But whatever...
Maby, since, the nanny was so underpaied, maby, Courtney love PAIED him do to it. But, why would Love want the love of her life dead? Maby because she was worried about him getting more fames (Famouser?) than her...
It COULDENT be him. Studdies show that he injected himself with 3 TIMES THE LEATHAL DOSE OF HEROIN! Thats way more that the biggest addict! Becuase he had done this, studies also show that there is NO WAY he could pick up that gun, much less pull the trigger.
Go here for more facts:
CLICK FOR MORE FACTS ABOUT KURT'S DEATH
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 01:28 PM
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post Sep 3 2004, 11:08 AM
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i HURD, he dyd commit suicide, frum doin drugz, but actualli I realli dont kno....... i juss dont understand celeb. murderz or celeb. killinz or celeb. suicidalz... itz all so blank to me... ?

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QUOTE(p1nK_p0p @ Aug 31 2004, 11:42 AM)
Your right. I said that dident I....Hmmm...

oopsie.. sry didn't see yours pinch.gif but yea. i agree... which i guess you already know that.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 31 2004, 1:28 PM)
merged

? wat do u mean by that
 
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i always thought hed killed himself...now im not quite so sure he did.
 
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How about someone... get a ouiji board and ask him yourself.



i still think he is overrated.
 
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who is kurt corbin
 
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post Sep 3 2005, 09:11 PM
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wow, it's been a year or something since someone posted in this... ha, I'm bringing it back!

Kurt Cobain was murdered.

With the blood-morphine level he had, he wouldn't have been concious long enough for him to pack up his drug paraphenalia, pick up the gun and pull the trigger. He'd have about 3 seconds AT MOST.
Usually, when someone buys herione, they expect it to be deluted already. Someone slipped him some china white herione. The pure stuff... and then that person (or someone else who was in on it) shot him and made it look like suicide.
The cops didn't investigate thoroughly enough. It looked like suicide, it was a person who was known to be suicidal, they jumped to the conclusion that he killed himself.
 
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That's a good point.

I think he's in the Bahamas somewhere chilling with Tupac.
 
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post Sep 3 2005, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Sep 3 2005, 9:14 PM)
That's a good point.

I think he's in the Bahamas somewhere chilling with Tupac.
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Same same, maybe with left eye too?
 
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I agree with tkproduce, its more important what he did while he was alive. His gift to music is gonna live on forever, so in a sense he will live forever. Im not trying to look like someone who knows all about Nirvana and stuff, but the songs that I have heard, he's incredible. But about his death, i dont think he truly killed himself. He was f**ked up on some sort of drug, and they say he shot himself, but hes been f**ked up before then,why wouldnt he have done it then? i believe it was that chick, i think her name is courtney love? whoever he was with at the time, i think she got jealous and killed him when he was trippin. Obviously theres no way to prove either way, but thats my opinion.
 

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