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 May 16 2004, 07:11 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless  Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761  |
So... I want to see waht this forum is like politically.
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May 16 2004, 07:16 PM
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 Master Debater Group: Member Posts: 1,066 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 15,719 |
I lean towards liberal...but i don't agree with every single thing.
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| *kryogenix* |
May 16 2004, 08:21 PM
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i'm leaning more to the conservative side.
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May 16 2004, 08:50 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
IMHO there's also a growing and definite split within the conservative camp between traditional conservatives (like me, now mostly grouped with libertarians) and what we commonly call "neo-conservatives" like most of the Republcian Party.
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| *Kathleen* |
May 16 2004, 08:52 PM
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Leaning towards the conservative side no matter what you say, Minda.
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May 16 2004, 09:08 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
moderate. both sides have their pros and cons.
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May 16 2004, 11:02 PM
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whats that mean...? yea.. i really dont know
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May 17 2004, 12:35 AM
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 The Return of Sathington Willoughby. Group: Member Posts: 313 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,724 |
i also learn toward liberal, but i know a lot of liberals are dumbasses.
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
May 17 2004, 03:16 PM
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woo hoo!! We just talked about this in English class today, and I really never knew what in the world either were (yes, i know, pathetic) but anyways, I'm a liberal, and proud of it
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| *Kathleen* |
May 17 2004, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE whats that mean...? yea.. i really dont know What are you confused about exactly? |
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| *AngelicEyz00* |
May 17 2004, 03:38 PM
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I'm gonna post notes that we took in English class on here, kay? These are like really left wing and really right wing, and they may be exaggerations, but here we go... Just so some of you can get an idea of what each of these groups are like kinda... or the basis of each i guess
Liberalism *Progressivism *Green Party or Democratic Party *Pro-Choice *Higher Taxes for social programs *Seperation of church and state *More government involvement in business *Everyone wealthier if gov't is involved *against death penalty--immoral, vengeful, ineffective *War as a last resort-- doves *Conservation of environment *More lenient regarding immigration *Question the 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) because guns lead to violence, widespread death, etc. *They're for scientific exploration *Freedom of speech--all speech protected *For gay marriages---right to choose *Less walthy Conservatism *Republicans *Pro-Life *Prayer in school *Against Gay Marriages *traditional morality *For the 2nd amendent *Low taxes *Small gov't *Laissez faire-- let do *Private ownership *For death penalty-- "an eye for an eye" *Against cloning-- unnatural, playing god, goes against traditiona beliefs *Wealthy *Controlled immigration *Sound science *Religious in schools *Policemen of the world *Affirmative action *War viewed as partiotic (hawks) |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 17 2004, 03:42 PM
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Yeah:
liberals - more government conservatives - less government |
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May 17 2004, 03:57 PM
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 - kuupi! ♥- Group: Member Posts: 937 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,148 |
QUOTE(strice @ May 17 2004, 1:35 AM) i also learn toward liberal, but i know a lot of liberals are dumbasses. There are just as many conservative dumbasses.  I tend to lean towards the liberal end of the political spectrum. |
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| *Kathleen* |
May 17 2004, 04:01 PM
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I'm a conservative.
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May 17 2004, 04:03 PM
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liberal - democratic
conservative - republican liberal : for the general welfare conservative : for the common deffense I lean twoards the liberal side more |
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May 17 2004, 04:14 PM
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- kuupi! ♥- Group: Member Posts: 937 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,148 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 5:01 PM) I'm a conservative. Aw hun! I didn't mean you! 
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May 17 2004, 04:14 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
The liberal-conservative split is too simplistic to describe politics, really. It makes it seem like there's only two sides to any given issue. There are in fact, many groups of ideologies. Liberals are split mainly into liberals and socialists, while what we consider conservatives are either traditional conservatives or neo-conservatives. Meanwhile, there's libertarianism and alot of other derivative ideas that don't belong in either liberal nor conservative.
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May 18 2004, 09:07 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
I honestly didnt know what a liberal or a conservative was until I read this post... how sad is that?
lol well after reading it, i'd say that i'm mostly a liberal, there're a few things on the conservative side i like, but more liberal am i... |
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Feb 27 2005, 05:06 PM
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 candy shopper Group: Member Posts: 34 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 89,338 |
Politically, I'm a liberal.
Personally, I'm moderate. But, I voted liberal since this is about my "political" standpoint. 
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Mar 18 2005, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE Liberalism *Progressivism *Green Party or Democratic Party *Pro-Choice *Higher Taxes for social programs *Seperation of church and state *More government involvement in business *Everyone wealthier if gov't is involved *against death penalty--immoral, vengeful, ineffective *War as a last resort-- doves *Conservation of environment *More lenient regarding immigration *Question the 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) because guns lead to violence, widespread death, etc. *They're for scientific exploration *Freedom of speech--all speech protected *For gay marriages---right to choose *Less walthy exactly what I am=) |
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Mar 18 2005, 01:35 AM
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 Holla if ya hate me Group: Member Posts: 2,386 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 80,819 |
Democratic, so I am with those that are liberal... but I also do fall with some of that are Conservative... so I guess like Acid said.. I'm a Liberal Conservative =)
This post has been edited by Funky Buddha: Mar 18 2005, 01:39 AM |
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Mar 18 2005, 01:37 AM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
yea where is libertarian?
i guess i'll call myself a liberal conservative. and vote twic... nevermind that doens't work does it? |
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Mar 18 2005, 02:16 PM
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Liberal Conservative... or Conservative Liberal?
I'm not too fond of political classifications because they seem like another way to divide the country. I agreed with Kerry during the elections and I also agreed with Bush, but they both were full of it to an extent. So am I a Liberal Cons---, whatever, you get the point. |
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Mar 18 2005, 02:38 PM
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Conservative... all the way.
Alothough i belive that I do live in AMERICA... where every1 has the right to thier own opinion... so im not gonna be hating on any Liberals. 
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Mar 18 2005, 04:46 PM
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 WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
whoah, this was brought back. i saw minda's old username and was like "whaaat?"
compleeeetely liberal here. woot. |
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Mar 18 2005, 05:30 PM
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moderate. i have a bad habit of seeing the advantages and disadvanted of both sides, and not being able to make a sound decision between
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Mar 19 2005, 04:19 AM
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Moderate conservative.
I flex on issues such as gay marriage, and cloning. I'm a little more die-hard concerning abortion and capital punishment. I also pray that taxes never reach Clintonian levels and that laissez-faire economic strategy is always used in our system. And I'll fight for those views until my last day. EDIT: I guess the 'moderate' should be dumbed down a bit. I'm actually pretty hardcore conservative most of the time. But it's more like this... Social issues: moderate conservative, quite flexible. Economic issues: the conservative ideology is always better, and I get hardcore about it. |
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Mar 19 2005, 08:45 AM
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 Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
major liberal, and i will wave thae flag till the day i die
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Mar 19 2005, 10:22 AM
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WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
^ yay james! the male version of me.
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Mar 19 2005, 12:03 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
^^
indeed.i bet buffy was a liberal |
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Mar 19 2005, 12:06 PM
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liberal =)
big suprise |
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Mar 19 2005, 06:49 PM
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im definitely liberal and anti-bush. i dont believe in war...and im democratic.
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Mar 20 2005, 12:58 PM
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i've never wanted anything rationale. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
^being liberal doesnt always = anti bush....well most of the time it does but hey.....
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Mar 20 2005, 01:22 PM
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lol...if only this topic was made last month...i had a hw based on this
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Mar 20 2005, 07:22 PM
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I had a discussion with my grandfather about liberals and conservatives and he put in real simple terms..
Those of us that claim to be such liberals now, are going to be conservatives in the future, even if we don't admit to it. And those of us that are such stiff lipped conservatives are going to be even more stiff lipped for the next generation. |
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Mar 20 2005, 09:24 PM
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crushed. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 9,432 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,026 |
^how are we going to be conservatives in the future?
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Mar 20 2005, 10:35 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
because you have basically the same beliefs, but the world gets more liberal.
making the now moderates conservative, and the now liberals moderate. unless the world started getting conservative... then you'd get more liberal. |
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Mar 20 2005, 11:05 PM
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^_^ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,141 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,466 |
QUOTE(bballbabiegrl @ Mar 20 2005, 8:24 PM) ^how are we going to be conservatives in the future?  sadolakced acid couldn't have explained it better. |
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Mar 21 2005, 03:41 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
^^
but whose to say that your beliefs cant adapt and change over time? |
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Mar 21 2005, 05:05 PM
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^_^ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,141 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,466 |
QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Mar 21 2005, 2:41 PM) ^^ but whose to say that your beliefs cant adapt and change over time? Thats the point I'm making. Over time, the liberals will eventually seem less liberal. |
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Mar 22 2005, 05:11 PM
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I lean much more to the Conservative side, I might be crazy but i'm not crazy enough to be liberal
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Mar 22 2005, 05:35 PM
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WWMD?! - i am from the age of BM 2 Group: Member Posts: 5,308 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,848 |
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Mar 22 2005, 4:11 PM) I lean much more to the Conservative side, I might be crazy but i'm not crazy enough to be liberal excuse me? |
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Mar 22 2005, 06:00 PM
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i've never wanted anything rationale. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,449 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 19,045 |
QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 22 2005, 3:35 PM) excuse me? yes, i second that excuse me! whats wrong with liberals? |
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Mar 22 2005, 06:06 PM
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I'm more liberal.. :D
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Mar 22 2005, 06:08 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with being liberal. I am just not that "crazy/radical" to be a liberal
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Mar 22 2005, 06:17 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
crazy liberals are the best.
sure, some things i don't agree with. but they're more crazy in the way i like it. yea. babbling. ignore me. |
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Mar 22 2005, 09:00 PM
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You crazy conservatives!
 So I guess us conservative liberals (or liberal conservatives, I prefer the ladder) are left to fend for ourselves. 
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Mar 31 2005, 10:03 PM
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i am amazing Group: Member Posts: 15 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 120,073 |
crazy conservative and proud of it!
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Mar 31 2005, 10:08 PM
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definitely more liberal.
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Mar 31 2005, 10:09 PM
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I'm a liberal.
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Jun 2 2005, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 17 2004, 4:42 PM) Yeah: liberals - more government conservatives - less government You'd think that's right, but then again, in recent years, political conservatives have been responsible for creating the government's largest bureaocracy (the Department of Homeland Defense). |
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Jun 2 2005, 03:42 PM
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Republican - 8 years, Republican - 4 years, Democrat - 8 years, Republican - 8 years, Republican - 8 years, Democrat - 4 years, Democrat - 4 years, Republican - 8 years, Republican - 4 years...
You see where I'm going with this? |
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Jun 2 2005, 03:46 PM
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Another ditch in the road... you keep moving Group: Member Posts: 6,281 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,152 |
no... im stupid. lol.
explain. im bad with patterns |
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Jun 2 2005, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 16 2004, 9:08 PM) moderate. both sides have their pros and cons. Agreed. |
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Jun 2 2005, 07:28 PM
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Bolded= my opinion
Italics= should be limited QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ May 17 2004, 3:38 PM) Liberalism *Progressivism *Green Party or Democratic Party *Pro-Choice *Higher Taxes for social programs *Seperation of church and state *More government involvement in business *Everyone wealthier if gov't is involved *against death penalty--immoral, vengeful, ineffective *War as a last resort-- doves *Conservation of environment *More lenient regarding immigration *Question the 2nd amendment (the right to bear arms) because guns lead to violence, widespread death, etc. *They're for scientific exploration *Freedom of speech--all speech protected *For gay marriages---right to choose *Less walthy Conservatism *Republicans *Pro-Life *Prayer in school *Against Gay Marriages *traditional morality *For the 2nd amendent *Low taxes *Small gov't *Laissez faire-- let do *Private ownership *For death penalty-- "an eye for an eye" *Against cloning-- unnatural, playing god, goes against traditional beliefs *Wealthy *Controlled immigration *Sound science *Religious in schools *Policemen of the world *Affirmative action *War viewed as partiotic (hawks) I'm much more liberal, but we need certain restrictions. 
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Jun 2 2005, 07:34 PM
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100000000000000% liberal, thank you very much
notice how most of the points listed under conservative are about god and christian/catholic religion.
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Jun 2 2005, 10:13 PM
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republican 100%..but i'm a nice one..i don't hate the liberals..just when they're on tv lying. i hate kerry. i just don't get why everyone thinks bush is a quack. ehh..i'll shut up now
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Jun 8 2005, 12:53 PM
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i dont mean to contradict anyone, but ive been to liberal conventions-held at the gun shows. They believe in more gun rights. They arent trying to take them away.
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Jun 8 2005, 01:15 PM
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I decided to do some research and now im highly confused. The people at the 2 gun shows i met, were for the liberal party and were all for getting gun rights. "we have the right to own whatever weapons we want" they even tried recruiting me, but everything im finding says liberals are as was said for more gun control. so im sorry for my statement im just really confused now.
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Jun 8 2005, 01:18 PM
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Were they liberals or libertarians?
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Jun 8 2005, 01:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 34 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 149,934 |
i thought they said liberals but now i have no idea. whats the difference with the two?
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Jun 8 2005, 01:44 PM
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i despise most liberals...i suppose i might be conservative...maybe not but i don't hate conservatives
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Jun 8 2005, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(wokeupinadream @ Jun 8 2005, 2:37 PM) i thought they said liberals but now i have no idea. whats the difference with the two? A liberal is a person on the "left" of the political spectrum; the term is most often associated with Democrats, although people from parties such as the Green Party could be considered liberals. A libertarian is a person who believes strongly in individual freedom, and small government. They mostly believe that people should be free to do what they want, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. They uphold, among other things, freedom of speech and gun rights. In that sense, they are most often associated with the conservative ("Republican") side of the spectrum, although they have some more liberal leanings as well. QUOTE(Heathasm @ Jun 8 2005, 2:44PM) i despise most liberals...i suppose i might be conservative...maybe not but i don't hate conservatives Just out of curiosity, what makes you "despise most liberals"? |
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Jun 9 2005, 12:18 AM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 8 2005, 2:26 PM) A liberal is a person on the "left" of the political spectrum; the term is most often associated with Democrats, although people from parties such as the Green Party could be considered liberals. A libertarian is a person who believes strongly in individual freedom, and small government. They mostly believe that people should be free to do what they want, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others. They uphold, among other things, freedom of speech and gun rights. In that sense, they are most often associated with the conservative ("Republican") side of the spectrum, although they have some more liberal leanings as well. it's easier to say libertarians are liberal about commerce and conservative about individual freedoms. |
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