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post Apr 4 2006, 02:12 PM
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Assume you have a cube made of indestructible material. You place a human body inside this cube, then perfectly fill the cube up with water and seal it. You load this package onto an airplane. Unfortunately, the airplane crashes. The cube is, of course, indestructible, so it survives the collision—but what happens to the human body inside the cube? Would it be any different if you placed a glass plate or a glass sphere inside the cube instead?
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:18 PM
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mellow.gif pinch.gif Gosh, you made my head hurt.. haha not really.

"Would it be any different if you placed a glass plate or a glass sphere inside the cube instead?"
You mean, would the body break or be ruined, type of thing?
I think maybe, its possible, but I wouldnt really know unless someone tried it.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:22 PM
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When you say perfect, do you mean it's FULL of water or there's a certain amount? I'm guessing it depends, especially how big the cube is.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Apr 4 2006, 3:22 PM) *
When you say perfect, do you mean it's FULL of water or there's a certain amount? I'm guessing it depends, especially how big the cube is.

The cube is filled all the way to the top, with no air bubbles.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:50 PM
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I'm guessing that since the cube is perfectly filled, the water doesn't have room to move or anything so when the cube crashes the water stays pretty much the same and the body stays unharmed, or the damage is greatly reduced??
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:54 PM
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if water was perfectly sealed inside the cube, i don't think any harm was done to human body. it would just be floating inside right? i don't know.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Apr 4 2006, 3:50 PM) *
I'm guessing that since the cube is perfectly filled, the water doesn't have room to move or anything so when the cube crashes the water stays pretty much the same and the body stays unharmed, or the damage is greatly reduced??


Oooh, I didnt read the perfectly part.
So yeah, what ^ he said.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:20 PM
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Probably no harm done, because there's hardly any gravity in water anyways, so the body would just be slightly bouncing off the faces of the cube. I doubt it would be different if you placed a glass sphere inside.

This is all assuming you had an indestructible cube though. laugh.gif
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:21 PM
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I can't be sure about the first question. But I think a human life more valuable than a glass sphere or plate so yes, I'd be concerned...

I'm not sure if it came out the way I wanted it to be... or I just don't understand the question very well.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:32 PM
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Well, how many people could survive inside a cube filled with water blink.gif

Is it a dead body or a live person?
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 04:44 PM
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^^I think it's a dead person if the cube is full of water lol
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Smoogrish @ Apr 4 2006, 5:20 PM) *
Probably no harm done, because there's hardly any gravity in water anyways, so the body would just be slightly bouncing off the faces of the cube.

But the body can't move around inside the water, because the cube is perfectly filled, and the water has nowhere to go, right?
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:30 PM
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It'll be diffrent because the human will die because of no oxygen xP
lol, I dont know
 
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QUOTE(xTiNAxx @ Apr 4 2006, 7:30 PM) *
It'll be diffrent because the human will die because of no oxygen xP
lol, I dont know

Assume the human body is a cadaver. (A human cannot breathe underwater, nor could a human breathe in an environment such as the one described, even with an oxygen tank.)
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:36 PM
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Oooo.... Dead people! -pokes- Um... What was the question? -scrolls up to read- Body would decompose... But that's not the point. Reili was never very good at hypothetical-logical questions...
It's impossible. Unless it's made like those wicked chocolates with the cherries inside... But even then! What if there was a crack? I suppose it'd stay the same... But all the things that could go wrong! Wow... This is kinda fun.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:36 PM
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well, why wouldn't the DEAD body be able to bounce around inside?

and...the only difference it would be with a glass thing would be that the body would be alive. Because the glass (destructable) is inside something indestructable (assuming that the glass can't move around, it fits oh so perfectly.)

Don't see what's confusing about it..

But the plate part makes no sense. WTH would you put a plate in it????!!!!
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Ice Cream 4 U @ Apr 4 2006, 7:36 PM) *
well, why wouldn't the DEAD body be able to bounce around inside?

To move, the object would have to push water out of the way; it would then move forward (because of inertia), and the water would move back into position to fill the space that the body formerly occupied.

But the water cannot move, because it has no space into which to move, because the cube is perfectly filled and then sealed. Therefore, the body cannot move, either.

Or can it? (I don't know, actually, but I think not.)
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:52 PM
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I still think imperfections COULD be present in the cube (therefore if it landed right, it could just shatter. ya never know... I break "unbreakable" plastic). Dunno, but that seems perfectly plausable... But dead bodies! XD -poke, poke- Err... This is like that contigency show... I liked finding plotholes... They're fun... Especially in super-smart type shows.
Wait, back to topic! The body would decompose (or... dissennigrate. I know that isn't spelled right). So it would be different from a glass plate. Damage from the impact wouldn't be different... But plates can't decompose like that. Uh, I talk too much. Nevermind.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 4 2006, 4:43 PM) *
To move, the object would have to push water out of the way; it would then move forward (because of inertia), and the water would move back into position to fill the space that the body formerly occupied.

But the water cannot move, because it has no space into which to move, because the cube is perfectly filled and then sealed. Therefore, the body cannot move, either.

Or can it? (I don't know, actually, but I think not.)



It can! See, I understand that it would take water to move, but its still possible. If the body was forcing enough, it would push the water around its own body, and then it would go to the back of the body and push it even more. Haha, I'm not very good at drawing pictures in people's minds...
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:06 PM
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If the Cube is 100% full, there is no possible way for the water or the person to move. Thus, my answer to the question is No, it would be not different if a glass plate were to be put inside it.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 4 2006, 7:43 PM) *
To move, the object would have to push water out of the way; it would then move forward (because of inertia), and the water would move back into position to fill the space that the body formerly occupied.

But the water cannot move, because it has no space into which to move, because the cube is perfectly filled and then sealed. Therefore, the body cannot move, either.

Or can it? (I don't know, actually, but I think not.)


But the body could still move around, because of the force that the collision occured with, or something like that. Even if the water was compeltely sealed, it could move around regardless. I don't think the space inside the cube matters whether it's water or air or syrup much (except for resistance) in determining whether or not the body moves.

I haven't taken physics yet, so forgive me if I'm wrong. laugh.gif
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:11 PM
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Yes people would be able to move if it were air because air molecules are much farther apart than liquids or solids.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:13 PM
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OMGsh I'm a blonde!!

I was wrong. Hahaha.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Smoogrish @ Apr 4 2006, 8:09 PM) *
But the body could still move around, because of the force that the collision occured with, or something like that. Even if the water was compeltely sealed, it could move around regardless. I don't think the space inside the cube matters whether it's water or air or syrup much (except for resistance) in determining whether or not the body moves.

How could the water move if there was no empty space?

The type of material that contains the object is of great import. Water is a non-compressible liquid and behaves differently than air. I don't know about syrup, though.
 
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post Apr 4 2006, 10:35 PM
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The water doesn't move by itself, but, on impact, the body would sink down to a certain side; whichever side hit. The water would just allow the body to sink and take up the space left by the body when it moved.
 

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