Shes just WRONG, Get rid of her or let her stay? its LONG Options

[Annie5332]

Alright so me and my group of friends are friends with this girl (We'll call her Zenon). Zenon transfered from her old school to our new school about a year ago, and nobody really knows why. We think its because she didnt have any friends there. So anyways, Zenon eventually started hanging out with the "cool" girls first, but got into a big fight with them that ended their friendship. Zenon came to our group to hang out with us, but we thought she was just using us until some other people liked her.

Eventually, we became friends and we all liked her, up until the point where she stopped hanging out with us so it was just our normal group again. It was really nice not having her with us, at least thats what I think, because she was really annoying and obnoxious. Me and Zenon get in fights all the time, which is mostly because I dont want to be her friend AT ALL anymore. So when this year started, she came to us again, but only 2 people liked her (which was her boyfriend and one of my best friends). I really was hoping she wouldnt come back to us, but she did. The only reason I think she really hung out with us was because her boyfriend (we'll call him Leo) Leo hung out with us and they were going out. So around last November, the two broke up and they still both hung out with us. Zenon tried to hang out with the cooler girls again, but none of them like her, so she came running back to us. Then Zenon and Leo got back together and blah blah blah. Just about a week ago, Zenon told Leo that "she didnt want him hanging out with other girls (meaning me and my other girl friends)" and that really ticked him off. So the next day, Zenon broke up with Leo. After hearing what Zenon had said to Leo, I was appauled. (Do you think I have a reason to be or was I just over reacting?) I was so angry that I was just fed up with Zenon, and after all the other girls had heard what Zenon said, they got pissed. Now really the only girl that likes her is my best friend (we'll call her Phillipa who is in Ireland right now). I guess now that Leo and Zenon are friends again, which I really dont want to happen because I want Zenon OUT OF OUR GROUP. She has caused so much havoc and so many fights, that it just pisses me off. So now the question is, why cant she just go back to her old school and be friends with her old friends? She wants to be friends with me, but from whats happened in the past between me and her, I dont think thats ever going to happen.
1. Do you think that I have a right to be really mad at her?
2. Im not going to over react or anything, but ERGG! She makes me so mad.
3. What would you do?

Sorry for the long story Hard to sum it up.

[alphanumeric]

Well, you do have a right to be a little angry, but at the same time, have a heart. She's not using you, she needs you. Think of it that way. Who likes being a loner, anyway? :/ And the problem with her and "Leo" is their business. I think you, and all the other girls who got mad were in fact overreacting. Leo is still able to accept her and so is Phillipa. Why not try as well?

[flc]

Are you guys in middle school??

This Zenon person kind of seems like she has..issues.

If you really don't want to be friends with her, just come out with it. Tell her, "Look, no offence, but I really don't think we can hang out anymore. I heard that you've said some things about my friends and I. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything, but I just don't think that real friends would do that.."

[anniepiee]

If you have a problem with her actions, tell her. In the end if you cannot stand her, just hang out with a couple of people and form a new group

This seems.. really middle school.

I thought Zanon and Leo broke up because Leo got ticked off, and they're friends again?

[Chii]

I feel a bit bad for her. I can see why she didn't want her boyfriend around other girls, I used to be a disgustingly jealous person. Think about it, she has no friends, all she had was her boyfriend. If he left her for one of your other girl friends, she would have no one. She just wanted someone to herself since there was no one else there.

Just because you don't like her doesn't mean that you should exclude her from your other friends. It's just a big musunderstanding, even if she did have friends she would still be a bit jealous when Leo was hanging out with female friends. Most girls have jealousy issues.

1.) You can be mad at her but you can also let things go and not hold grudges.
2.) I think you already are overreacting...
3.) I used to really hate people, I kind of still do so I personally would have just shut her out as you are doing now however, I'm gradually growing up and easing out of the "I hate everyone" phase. So I think that you should grow up as well and just try to accept your differences. Sure you two have your moments but Zenon still wants to be friends with you. If she can put the fights aside, why can't you? This girl just wants to be accepted, you might as well accept her. I doubt she'll stop annoying you until then anyway.

[priyas]

I feel a bit bad for her. I can see why she didn't want her boyfriend around other girls, I used to be a disgustingly jealous person. Think about it, she has no friends, all she had was her boyfriend. If he left her for one of your other girl friends, she would have no one. She just wanted someone to herself since there was no one else there.

^^agreed

i have kinda the same problem. but its less dramatic.

[alphanumeric]

This seems.. really middle school.

Totally

[Syar]

She isn't "using you", she just needs some time to adjust. You just have to be patient, and it may seem like a long time, but she doesn't want to be left out.

[chococat15]

I feel a bit bad for her. I can see why she didn't want her boyfriend around other girls, I used to be a disgustingly jealous person. Think about it, she has no friends, all she had was her boyfriend. If he left her for one of your other girl friends, she would have no one. She just wanted someone to herself since there was no one else there.

Just because you don't like her doesn't mean that you should exclude her from your other friends. It's just a big musunderstanding, even if she did have friends she would still be a bit jealous when Leo was hanging out with female friends. Most girls have jealousy issues.

1.) You can be mad at her but you can also let things go and not hold grudges.
2.) I think you already are overreacting...
3.) I used to really hate people, I kind of still do so I personally would have just shut her out as you are doing now however, I'm gradually growing up and easing out of the "I hate everyone" phase. So I think that you should grow up as well and just try to accept your differences. Sure you two have your moments but Zenon still wants to be friends with you. If she can put the fights aside, why can't you? This girl just wants to be accepted, you might as well accept her. I doubt she'll stop annoying you until then anyway.

i agree. i take things too seriously when ppl don't really mean them, and they get over it, but not me. try and talk with her more and see what she's really like. and yeah, she just wants to be accepted.

[juliar]

Let's see.
I think you're perfectly right. If she's that obnoxious, you obviously have a right to be mean to her right back. I mean, it's not the nicest thing to do, but it seems like she's always trying to be cool and running off to the "cool" girls. I mean, even I feel bad for her but me being the cold heartless bitch I am, I wouldn't talk to her.

And what would I do? Exactly what you did.
Yea, I'm not the other sympathetic nice people that posted in this thread. :D

-Julia

[*x____duckii*]

It was really nice not having her with us, at least thats what I think, because she was really annoying and obnoxious. Me and Zenon get in fights all the time, which is mostly because I dont want to be her friend AT ALL anymore.

To me, it sounds as if you didn't really give her another chance. Are you sure that you weren't the one that started the fights with her? Maybe she she doesn't really know that the way she's acting is annoying & obnoxious. Sometimes it's better when things are pointed out instead of avoiding it. & how do you know that she just hung out with the "cool" kids because they are "cool"? To me, it sounds as if you're just assuming shit right here.

Meh, it seems as if the both of you guys have trust issues. I think you just need to have a mature talk with her about all of this (no yelling at her if she says something stupid), & if she starts yelling at you for no reason, then I think that you should just avoid her altogether.

[IceCream4U]

Let's see.
I think you're perfectly right. If she's that obnoxious, you obviously have a right to be mean to her right back. I mean, it's not the nicest thing to do, but it seems like she's always trying to be cool and running off to the "cool" girls. I mean, even I feel bad for her but me being the cold heartless bitch I am, I wouldn't talk to her.

And what would I do? Exactly what you did.
Yea, I'm not the other sympathetic nice people that posted in this thread. :D

-Julia

Haha, agreed. I'm going to be immature right now and not say things like, "Give her a chance!". I wanna say that you need to tell her to go suck george bush's...uh yeah...and go fall in a ditch.