78th Annual Academy Awards, The Aftermath Options

[hi-C]

Okay, I don't get what the hell just happened. Crash as best picture of the year? Not even. The only conclusion I can come to is that Brokeback and Capote split votes and Crash came out on the winning end of that one. Holy...damn.

I'm also highly surprised "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp" won for Best Song, but pleasantly so. I don't know what Taraji P. Henson was doing at the end but whatever.

What did everyone else think about the ceremony?

Edit: If you want to discuss Oscars fashion, go to this thread.

[glit_gal]

I'm actually glad Crash won .

[yo pusha]

crash was a horrible movie. the worst "best picture" ever.

[silver-rain]

I thought that song was a terrible song. Shrug. Hah, my friend was really pissed when it won.
I've never seen Crash, but I heard it was good?

[Teesa]

Aw, I was happy for Reese Witherspoon and George Clooney! Hmm, I wish I could have seen Brokeback Mountain, but I did see Crash. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[NoSex]

crash was a horrible movie. the worst "best picture" ever.

Seriously. I am so upset that that garbage won best friggin picture. Awful.
I was pissed off enough that it was even nominated...

[*Zatanna*]

I'm disappointed about Philip Seymour Hoffman. I didn't think his performance was at all better than Joaquin Pheonix's. Everyone kept saying how Reese Witherspoon was the heart of the movie. She wasn't. Don't get me wrong, she was absolutely amazing in the film and I'm thrilled that she received the reward. I just thought Capote was a hammy performance, full of "this is my Oscar moment" moments.

Rachel Weisz was a fairly obvious win and I have not seen to Constant Gardener, so I don't feel qualified to make any type of judgement there. I loved Michelle William's peformance though, so most likely I'll be a little critical of Weisz whenever I get a chance to see the film.

I haven't seen Syriana either, so ditto the above. Best supporting was a tough catagory though for sure. (I don't find Georgle Clooney all that attractive, but I have to say that he is truly a classic guy).

Crash.. eh, not sure if it won because it was a great film, or because everyone expected it to win, or it was award to nod the ensemble cast. Either way, bleh on that. Brokeback Mountain should have won. (And a hearty congratulations to Ang Lee)

Oh and I thought Dolly Parton looked great!

[Mr. Slowjamz]

i dont watch any movies ....im ashamed . ... i blew myself up .

[KissMe2408]

I was very suprised about Crash winning for best picture. VERY suprised, i was almost certain brokeback mountain was going to take that one.
lol "It's Hard out Here for a Pimp", i was very suprised that won too, lol the song was stuck in my head for a while.

lol I loved Ben Stiller, he was funny.
This year was def interesting...the ceremony was okay. I've enjoyed past ones more.

[Gigi]

I was delighted with Reese Witherspoon, George Clooney and Ang Lee. I thought that Brokeback would take it for Best Picture but...eh.

[hi-C]

I'm disappointed about Philip Seymour Hoffman. I didn't think his performance was at all better than Joaquin Pheonix's. Everyone kept saying how Reese Witherspoon was the heart of the movie. She wasn't. Don't get me wrong, she was absolutely amazing in the film and I'm thrilled that she received the reward. I just thought Capote was a hammy performance, full of "this is my Oscar moment" moments.

Crash.. eh, not sure if it won because it was a great film, or because everyone expected it to win, or it was award to nod the ensemble cast. Either way, bleh on that. Brokeback Mountain should have won. (And a hearty congratulations to Ang Lee)

Oh and I thought Dolly Parton looked great!

Dolly Parton is so cute. She's such a classic.

I'm happy that Hoffman won, but I did like - no, loved - Ledger's performance of Ennis Del Mar (man, I love that name).

I was blindsided by Crash winning Best Picture. Who expected it to win? I sure didn't.

[gelionie]

Time for some Chinese pride! *waves flag* :P

Yea... I think Ang Lee deserves the title of best director.

[misoshiru]

Aw, I was happy for Reese Witherspoon and George Clooney! Hmm, I wish I could have seen Brokeback Mountain, but I did see Crash. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

me too me too. crash was a good movie. i'm glad it won.

[Levy2k6]

i went 8 out of 14 on my picks.. lol.

whoa, Memoirs of a Geisha! lol

[*Zatanna*]

Time for some Chinese pride! *waves flag* :P

Yea... I think Ang Lee deserves the title of best director.

And yeah, he did a wonderful job. I have always had so much respect for Ang Lee.

[NoSex]

I was delighted with Reese Witherspoon, George Clooney and Ang Lee. I thought that Brokeback would take it for Best Picture but...eh.

I agree about Reese Witherspoon, for the most part.
I still can't believe Crash took best picture.
What a disgrace to the Academy.

And yeah, he did a wonderful job. I have always had so much respect for Ang Lee.

*cough* The Hulk. *cough*

[technicolour]

Joaquin got cheated.

...Cinderella Man would have pwned everyone else.

[*Zatanna*]

*cough* The Hulk. *cough*

He was high. (He must have been. At least Eric Bana showed some Trojan goodness in Troy :P //random)

[NoSex]

He was high. (He must have been. At least Eric Bana showed some Trojan goodness in Troy :P //random)

Yeah! Ahhhh ha!

[AngryBaby]

crash was a horrible movie. the worst "best picture" ever.

....... how was it bad?

gigli was bad, crash was not bad

[*RiC3xBoy*]

Gigli wasn't bad. It'll be too much of a compliment if we said it was bad.

[NoSex]

....... how was it bad?

gigli was bad, crash was not bad

Crash felt like a bad 80's after-school special on racism. The character study relied on and believed so much in its own conception of racism that characters did not in fact develope or grow. The dishonesty of the script is grounded in the fact that each persona was chained down by the theme of the movie, which almost seems to want to tell us that we are all racist, even if and when we don't think so. The character motivation is spelt out in infantile and preachy gestures of race relations, seeming to have been set up to appeal to the minds of junior high students. The reality of racism is mocked by the utter failure to represent race relations in an honest light. The film seems almost to perpetuate racial stereotypes by writing its characters into those social constructs. The racist L.A. cop. The sell-out black producer. The police chief who got where he was by ignoring racism. The hardworking ex-gang-member latino. The middle eastern small bussiness man. The white politician afraid of losing the black vote. The young black thugs waxing fancy on their roles in society. These cliches are trying to help us realize how racist we are? Or, is Crash more racist than its audience and the streets of L.A.?

A plot so contrived in its nature that it denies us suspension of disbelief. Characters who are more cliche, corny, and liberal mind soothing than real. No amazing direction. A waste of an ensemble cast. An insultingly preachy message. The attempted, yet awfully predictable, "Oh My Gosh" moments in which Characters, so underdeveloped and overwritten, deny their own supposed nature. The white racist cop saves the black woman he molested! Oh my! The goody goody do-right cop reacts in racist fear! Oh my word!

The truth behind the subtle nature of racism disapears. No real or useful commentary of social contructs emerges in the end. The film-makers want to guilt trip us and appeal to our emotional ignorance and insecurity to make a successful impact. They're hacks.

And to pretend that this is revolutionary or mind-opening, or brave is rediculous. If it was any of these things, it clearly would have never won best picture.

Some of the most awful writing, direction, and theme I have seen in all of 2005. Definately the most overrated film of 2005.

Check out Magnolia, Short Cuts, White Dog, and maybe Boogie Nights.

[*Statistik*]

three hours of bs

[AngryBaby]

Crash felt like a bad 80's after-school special on racism. The character study relied on and believed so much in its own conception of racism that characters did not in fact develope or grow. The dishonesty of the script is grounded in the fact that each persona was chained down by the theme of the movie, which almost seems to want to tell us that we are all racist, even if and when we don't think so. The character motivation is spelt out in infantile and preachy gestures of race relations, seeming to have been set up to appeal to the minds of junior high students. The reality of racism is mocked by the utter failure to represent race relations in an honest light. The film seems almost to perpetuate racial stereotypes by writing its characters into those social constructs. The racist L.A. cop. The sell-out black producer. The police chief who got where he was by ignoring racism. The hardworking ex-gang-member latino. The middle eastern small bussiness man. The white politician afraid of losing the black vote. The young black thugs waxing fancy on their roles in society. These cliches are trying to help us realize how racist we are? Or, is Crash more racist than its audience and the streets of L.A.?

A plot so contrived in its nature that it denies us suspension of disbelief. Characters who are more cliche, corny, and liberal mind soothing than real. No amazing direction. A waste of an ensemble cast. An insultingly preachy message. The attempted, yet awfully predictable, "Oh My Gosh" moments in which Characters, so underdeveloped and overwritten, deny their own supposed nature. The white racist cop saves the black woman he molested! Oh my! The goody goody do-right cop reacts in racist fear! Oh my word!

The truth behind the subtle nature of racism disapears. No real or useful commentary of social contructs emerges in the end. The film-makers want to guilt trip us and appeal to our emotional ignorance and insecurity to make a successful impact. They're hacks.

And to pretend that this is revolutionary or mind-opening, or brave is rediculous. If it was any of these things, it clearly would have never won best picture.

Some of the most awful writing, direction, and theme I have seen in all of 2005. Definately the most overrated film of 2005.

Check out Magnolia, Short Cuts, White Dog, and maybe Boogie Nights.

eh, still wasnt bad. i never said i thought it should win, in fact i didnt think it would win at all. that totally surprised me. its just that people tend to hate things more than it should be hated when they are dissapointed.(i have a feeling your reason of hating it is a little better than other people that said they hate it) and i saw magnolias and boogie nights. but not white dog, i never even heard of it. i might download it.


well, whats your opinion of who shoulda won? this year i didnt really care. though i thought brokeback was takin' it for sure.

[ecargnmyst]

pfft. yeah i wanted brokeback to win even tho i didnt see it...lol

but my mom wanted crash to win even tho she didnt see it only b/c shes extremely homophobic so she thought brokeback didnt "deserve it" psh...hell she didnt even know what crash was til 2 hrs before the oscars -________-

36 mafia winning was funny..street clothed ppl at a fancy place winning the oscar ..didnt even understand their speech b/c of dem grillz -__-

[yo pusha]

....... how was it bad?

gigli was bad, crash was not bad

am i the only one who thought crash was a horrible movie? crash was contrived, obvious, and very overrated. the underlying theme in this movie is that "everybody is a little racist". however, paul haggis's characters all were cardboard cutouts of the most extreme stereotypes, and everything that these characters do revolve around race. this movie hits you repeatedely over the head with "racism is still alive" and "everyone is racist". now, did you really need the movie crash to learn that? what did you really learn from the movie crash?

another reason why i did not like the movie was because it was unrealistic, from the dialogue to the movie scenes. does Los Angeles have only two police officers? another question, does anybody actually talk like the characters in the movie? every quote in the movie was related to race, and every character had a dark and light side. wouldn't it be great if racism was actually like that? this movie is an insult to anyone's intelligence.

now, im not criticizing the acting because the acting was outstanding, but the lack of character depth and irrelevent screenwriting nulled anything positive about this movie. i truly do believe that this was the worst best picture ever, even worse than chicago back in 01.

peter debruge of the miami herald said it best, "Crash is basically just one white man's righteous attempt to make other white people feel as if they've confronted the problem of racism head-on."

listen, if you want a movie that really delves into race, then you would be better watching american history x or even spike lee's do the right thing. if you don't know that racism is bad or you are a big ludacris fan, then go see crash.




great article - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11700333/

One last one. You’ve just been told by your hot, hot girlfriend, with whom you’re lucky to be sleeping in the first place, that she is not Mexican as you presumed; that her mother is from Puerto Rico and her father is from El Salvador. What do you say?

1. “I’m sorry, honey. I’m surprised I didn’t know that. Now come back to bed.”
2. “Really? How did they meet?”
3. “Who took [all Latinos] and taught them to park their cars on their lawns?”

And on and on and on. Every scene. Put a little pressure on somebody and they blurt simplistic racist sentiments. Right in the face of someone of that race.

Worse, none of it feels like sentiments these characters would actually say. It feels like sentiments writer/director Paul Haggis imposed upon them to make his grand, dull point about racism, when a more telling point about racism might have emerged if he’d just let them be. “Crash” is like a Creative Writing 101 demonstration of what not to do as a writer. To the Academy this meant two things: Best screenplay and best picture.

[AngryBaby]

36 mafia winning was funny..street clothed ppl at a fancy place winning the oscar ..didnt even understand their speech b/c of dem grillz -__-

lol i know!

*sigh* but doesnt three six mafia know they came off as ignorant?

[NoSex]

am i the only one who thought crash was a horrible movie. crash was contrived, obvious, and very overrated. the underlying theme in this movie is that "everybody is a little racist". however, paul haggis's characters all were cardboard cutouts of the most extreme stereotypes, and everything that these characters do revolve around race. this movie hits you repeatedely over the head with "racism is still alive" and "everyone is racist". now, did you really need the movie crash to learn that? what did you really learn from the movie crash?

another reason why i did not like the movie was because it was unrealistic, from the dialogue to the movie scenes. does Los Angeles have only two police officers? another question, does anybody actually talk like the characters in the movie? every quote in the movie was related to race, and every character had a dark and light side. wouldn't it be great if racism was actually like that? this movie is an insult to anyone's intelligence.

now, im not criticizing the acting because the acting was outstanding, but the lack of character depth and irrelevent screenwriting nulled anything positive about this movie. i truly do believe that this was the worst best picture ever, even worse than chicago back in 01.

peter debruge of the miami herald said it best, "Crash is basically just one white man's righteous attempt to make other white people feel as if they've confronted the problem of racism head-on."

listen, if you want a movie that really delves into race, then you would be better watching american history x or even spike lee's do the right thing. if you don't know that racism is bad or you are a big ludacris fan, then go see crash.
great article - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11700333/

Agreed.

[ecargnmyst]

=\ but then the academys biased..

[*disco infiltrator*]

lol i know!

*sigh* but doesnt three six mafia know they came off as ignorant?

Martin Scorceze: 0 Oscars...Three Six Mafia: 1.
- Jon Stewart


I love Jonny.

I'm happy Reese won; I have yet to see Walk the Line (I want to, though...I wanted to see it in theaters, but no one ever goes to see movies with me besides Harry Potter at midnight ), but I've always been a Reese fan. I've heard good things about Munich and Capote and wanted to see both. I think Matt Dillon should have won for Best Supporting Actor regardless of the movie he was winning for as a whole; the acting wasn't bad. I also wanted to see Good Night and Good Luck...I didn't see any of these movies, so I can't have a very valid opinion.

Speaking of Harry Potter, I'm totally having a Harry Potter party tomorrow and it's gonna be so sweet. This is irrelevant, but I just wanted to brag because people are actually coming. Like, more than 10. That's the most I've ever gotten to come to my house, hah. Thanks, Harry!

=\ but then the academys biased..

They're biased for not picking Brokeback Mountain, too.



Oh, and I LOVE how Stephen Colbert predicted all of these Oscar winners.

[hi-C]

^ Dannngggg...he sure did, didn't he? That was one of the best skits I've seen on Colbert Report.

[d00kie]

i dont think george clooney should have won and brokeback mountain should have won crash was way overrated

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

I was delighted with Reese Witherspoon, George Clooney and Ang Lee. I thought that Brokeback would take it for Best Picture but...eh.

^ I agree. I can't believe Crash took it.

[*Zatanna*]

i dont think george clooney should have won and brokeback mountain should have won crash was way overrated

George Clooney was actually really good. I agree with you about Crash though. I still think it was a mercy win.

[hi-C]

About this Crash thing:

Granted, I fell for it when I saw it. It gives you an emotional handjob, makes you feel something (especially that part with the little girl...) and then, in the end, leaves you dissatisfied. I wanted this movie to be great and it wasn't. It wasn't horrible, it just wasn't very good. Like others have said, it says nothing new about racism and too over-the-top to be taken seriously.

Is "everyone a little bit racist?" Of course. But it didn't need to be shoved down our throats like that. It comes off as arrogant, not only on the part of the filmmakers, but on the Academy as well. The Academy likes to think of itself as progressive and liberal but if they were really any of those things, the gay cowboys or the post-op transsexual would've won. Look at the awards ceremony, it was a big tribute to how progressive the Academy is, especially that whole bullshit montage with Malcolm X, A Time to Kill, and To Kill A Mockingbird.

And about the last two, I noticed a similar trend in Crash, not just the racism bit. In order to have a "happy ending," the white male saviour archetype has to swoop in and save the day. It's been done a million times, can we have a new ending, please? Like Nate said, it lectured us on being racist but falls victim to it as well.

[meleonade]

I thought crash was an awesome movie. very thought provoking and i can see why it won, but then agn i havent seen brokeback so i dont noe how they compare with eachother