Boys and Girls Options

[*Kathleen*]

Okay, so I watched a video on this in health class today...haha. All right, the question is: are men and women born differently? Or has our society made it seem that way? Why do girls automatically play with Barbie dolls and boys like violence? Why do women remember landmarks better than guys, and guys can work better with maps? Just little things like that...are we truly born different? Womens' rights activists say our society just makes it seem that way. Scientific stuides prove otherwise. I don't know what to think about this yet...what do you have to say about it?

[faithin_felix]

well humans just adopt to it, like why do you wear clothes the way you do, because you see people that do it. that is personally what i think, and most guys like violence, not all though. yep, so that is what i think, kathleen.

why does kathleen like johnny depp? same thing.

[iheartsimba]

^ I agree with her.

Good topic...I don't really know exactly what to sya with it htough


But...when I was little, I would always have little fanitsys, I had a wild imagionation. I would use my imagionation on barbie dolls. My borther would use his imagionation, and play video games...I think it's kind of how you use it *possibly* and maybe a little instinctive.
Of course, i played a lot of videp games as a kid, and my borhter acutally played barbies with me. Its a mistery I suppose

[WildGriffin]

I agree that guys and girls are born differently, we're different when it comes to some things. Too many stereotypes get pushed around though. I just think our thinking patterns and reasoning are a bit different, thanks to mr and ms horomones.

[casssy]

lol when i was little i didnt havew much dolls.. i was always playing with my friend alex with all these other boys haha.. man so many good times!

[divinity_star]

We are nurtured differently...Boys are taught that if they get a injury they need to toughen up but for girls it's ok to cry, it's probably a mix of nature (biological) and nurture (how your raised)..

[*AngelicEyz00*]

i think it's all psychological and sociological

Okay, so I watched a video on this in health class today...haha. All right, the question is: are men and women born differently? Or has our society made it seem that way? Why do girls automatically play with Barbie dolls and boys like violence? Why do women remember landmarks better than guys, and guys can work better with maps? Just little things like that...are we truly born different? Womens' rights activists say our society just makes it seem that way. Scientific stuides prove otherwise. I don't know what to think about this yet...what do you have to say about it?

i bit barbie dolls heads off.
i love sports.

[Mireh]

Well, most of it is stereotypical, and some of its from genes.

If I have the time, I'll type out somthing for you guys, but I'm feeling really sick right now <-- head cold

Anyways, boys and girls have different simulations in their brains. <-- Saw it in the discovery channel

[LiNHy POO]

i think society made it that way.. but if they didnt... guys would be wearing dresses and gurls would play with guns but they juss sort things out... like this is for guys and this for gurls... of course everyone likes sumthing in the opposites...

[onenonly101]

i say it is nurture because we teach little girls to play with dolls and play house and what not. While being into sports is more focused on guys. It depends on who raises you

[*Kathleen*]

Hmm...you know, though, when they tested babies, they put them away from their mothers, in this pen, almost, and at first, it was only the boys that were aggressive, and the girls would cry. It wasn't always like that, though...even a few of the boys cried, and later, the girls would become aggressive.

Furthermore, did anyone know that sometimes girl fetuses in the womb can be exposed to more testosterone and become something known as a pH girl (I think it was), where they're still girls, but ultimately are what we call tomboys.

Another thing, as I said, I don't know what to think about this. I love violence. I like playing sports...

Haha it was funny...in the video, they were saying women are naturally better peacemakers and speakers...they were saying the world might be a better place if more women were in charge, politcally-wise.

[*CJ1*]

I think it's just the world now. Boys are expected to be aggresive and girls to be smarter than boys and to get them out of trouble =)

[*kryogenix*]

I think it's just the world now. Boys are expected to be aggresive and girls to be smarter than boys and to get them out of trouble =)

girls are supposed to be smarter than boys?

[*Kathleen*]

Haha I've heard that stereotype before. I think because of the fact that girls mature faster than guys, they're more likely to perform better in school before guys actually become mature.

[tkproduce]

girls have an XX chromosome and boys have XY - that's the only fundamental difference

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, but does that ultimately change the way we think, and enables us to have certain skills in things compared to the opposite sex?

[EmeraldKnight]

Yes, but does that ultimately change the way we think, and enables us to have certain skills in things compared to the opposite sex?

Well.. not necessarily.. i mean, yes, there will be differences, but i think that society stereotypes far too heavily and thus also influences their development.. i mean, if say a boy and a girl were each placed in separate environments disjointed from society, their development would likely be similar

Its like constantly hearing things about oneself, and then slowly becoming what you hear.. whether we like it or not, we cannot deny that everything we encounter in our surroundings affects us in some way and changes the people we are

[tkproduce]

Yes, but does that ultimately change the way we think, and enables us to have certain skills in things compared to the opposite sex?

Well, until scientists can fully understand the information stored in DNA, I won't be able to answer your question. But the extra bit of chromosome in XX compared to XY does make females the "stronger" sex.

[EmeraldKnight]

Well, until scientists can fully understand the information stored in DNA, I won't be able to answer your question. But the extra bit of chromosome in XX compared to XY does make females the "stronger" sex.

stronger? what makes you say that? in what way? i'd like you to prove that statement to me please

[tkproduce]

stronger? what makes you say that? in what way? i'd like you to prove that statement to me please

If you look in nature, females are usually dominant over males. For example, a female praying mantis is much larger than the male and the male gets eaten by the female after it has laid the eggs. It does not appear to be so in the human world, but it is said that if a male went through the pain of giving birth, he will most likely not be able to cope with it. Females also live longer as well.

[EmeraldKnight]

If you look in nature, females are usually dominant over males. For example, a female praying mantis is much larger than the male and the male gets eaten by the female after it has laid the eggs. It does not appear to be so in the human world, but it is said that if a male went through the pain of giving birth, he will most likely not be able to cope with it. Females also live longer as well.

Usually.. and it looks like you're mainly discussing physical strength and endurance.. that's just one aspect.. there are so many other areas, you cant just say one sex is better than another simply because of physical endurance

[tkproduce]

Usually.. and it looks like you're mainly discussing physical strength and endurance.. that's just one aspect.. there are so many other areas, you cant just say one sex is better than another simply because of physical endurance

I'm not saying whether one is better or worse. I'm just stating that the extra bit of chromosome does give females some advantage - such as they're less likely to be haemophiliacs. I'm not going to bother explaining why, because it'll take too long - if you would like to know, go read up on some genetics or something. In a strictly scientific view, the only difference between males and females is the XY and XX chromosomes in our DNA.

[EmeraldKnight]

I'm not saying whether one is better or worse. I'm just stating that the extra bit of chromosome does give females some advantage - such as they're less likely to be haemophiliacs.

Alright, that works.. but the advantage isnt very much

I'm not going to bother explaining why, because it'll take too long - if you would like to know, go read up on some genetics or something. In a strictly scientific view, the only difference between males and females is the XY and XX chromosomes in our DNA.

Ok, that very last part I'll agree with

[jue]

i think its becaus of the hormones and genes and such stuff; and its just the way we were put together; we just have uhh different ways of acting toward things.

[sweet_devil]

Well, when you think about it it also depends who you grow up with. For instance, if you were a girl with a bunch of brothers, you might play football, baseball, or soccer with them all the time. And if your the youngest boy with a bunch of sisters they might influence your fashion sense...I think...maybe?...also, if your parents are all like teaching you chess as a kid, and not like having you do many sports, your not really going to do many sports and then they don't matter much in your life, so you might not like PE. Who you grow up with really influences you as a person, no matter whether you're a guy or girl.

[*mona lisa*]

Well, gender roles have a lot to do with it. As well as hormones which define and make distinct the characteristics of a man and a woman. However, it also has to do with your perception of the world around you. I mean, boys may like girly things, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're gay. And again with the girly things, that society lets this happen where some things/idea/etc. are considered to be feminine or masculine. Did I go off-topic?

[rOckThISshYt]

I heard that it involves something about their hormones or something... It has an affect on how they think and some things they're good at. But I wouldn't swear to that information. So yeah.

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

That's not true when i was little I loved playing star wars with my guy friends back then i didn't have any girl friends.

[cutelilmonkie930]

i think guyz and grlz r different...its the way we wer made

[*not_your_average*]

Biologically, we ARE different. We are wired differently. However, gender roles in our society are NOT biological. They are purely human-made. If a girl plays with Barbies and a boy plays with trucks, this is not because of the way they are wired, it is because of the influences in our society of how boys and girls are "supposed" to act.

Men and women may be different, but that does not make women inferior to men or vice versa.

[*CrackedRearView*]

Any genetic psychologist would tell you it has to do with genes, but genetic psychology produced such idiots as the Nativists.

I tend to think it's more of a social thing. Social/behavioral psychologists have offered far more proof that it has to do with social influence.

[sadolakced acid]

Biologically, we ARE different. We are wired differently. However, gender roles in our society are NOT biological. They are purely human-made. If a girl plays with Barbies and a boy plays with trucks, this is not because of the way they are wired, it is because of the influences in our society of how boys and girls are "supposed" to act.

Men and women may be different, but that does not make women inferior to men or vice versa.

you are wrong.

social roles are genetic.
from the hunter-gatherer times.

[Paradox of Life]

Yeah. The hormones and genes are DIFFERENT, but not neccessarily to say that girls like Barbies and boys like violence. I think that people are influenced to do these things. If they grow up, the first thing that's put in their head is that girls are to like pink and bows and boys to toy trucks and violence.
It's like how Jewish children grew up in Palestine to hate Arabs and Arabs to hate Jews. But then people wonder, "Why do we hate them anyway?" And yet this pointless hatred lasted so long and still lasts now. That's what's happening now because we're wondering why girls are the way they are and why guys are the way they're like they are. I truthfully have no idea, but animals don't have this kind of system. Genders usually don't matter. But the men are generally the ones that fight (like for mates) and that makes them tougher. Toughness = violence and other "hardcore" stuff. Men were made the superior gender, so we expect them to be tougher and take more responsibility. Somehow pink just represents being lighthearted and not caring about anything and it's generally not an angry or violent or tough color which is what men represent. I'm just saying in general. Like male lions are superior and stuff like that. Phew, I'm done.

[demolished]

It's because of the surronding and influence .. even girls wear guy's clothes and guys wear girl's clothes .. its everything around them. i dont think they did something to the recent babies at all ..

[sadolakced acid]

ok, so let me enlighten you on this expirement:

they took male chimps and female chimps, who had never seen children playing.

they let them either play with a truck or a doll.

male chimps take the toy truck, female ones take the toy doll.

like i said, it stems from the hunter-gatherer age of humans.

the females took care of the children, searched the brush to gather the best food they could find, did more high-temp cooking (like cooking bone marrow). They stayed around caves more.

the males got meat. they searched around for an adequete animal to kill, and killed that. they made many temporary camps, with small fires where they cooked the red meat, and stuff that could be easiley cooked. other things were brought back to the females because they couldn't cook them at temporary fires.

now: how does this affect life now? well, males tend to look for a good-enough outfit when shopping, whereas females look for the best and take much longer. males prefer red meat much more. females are more inclined to take care of children and to pretend to take care of children. males tend to move around a lot, and females don't leave behind thier home that easily.

it's genetics.

the male body is built for speed while running and efficency. the female body is built to carry a child. it is all genetic.

in fact, the reason why males will take female gender roles and females take male gender roles is completely social and against evolutionary tendenceys. it's unnatural.

[*not_your_average*]

you are wrong. 

social roles are genetic.
from the hunter-gatherer times.

then why are they called SOCIAL roles? because they are laid down by SOCIETY!

[sadolakced acid]

then why are they called SOCIAL roles? because they are laid down by SOCIETY!

wrong.

they are social roles = roles in society.

[toodlepops.]

Genetically and psycologically, we are different.
That, plus social factors.

[antix10_kos]

Hmm, I guess I was an exception to the rule. As a child, I was an avid BMX-er and outdoors person. I had dolls, but I didn't really play with them. I got a computer when I was 10 and from there I became a "nerd". I always read a lot, watched a lot of violent and gory movies and tv shows, as well as anime. I began listening to rock and metal at a young age.....typically, American society thinks of those things as "boy" activities.

When we moved to the suburbs, I got into horror movies, science fiction, psychology, computers, electronics, music. I got way into the works of Jhonen Vasquez, and slasher flicks. I got into industrial music and starting dressing in all black. I got into the pits at concerts, hung out with mostly guys, and was a loner type person throughout most of high school. More "guy" things, I suppose.

Today, I'm about half-and-half. I take care of pretty much all of my and my boyfriend's personal matters, like finances and cooking and such. If there's anything that needs to be fixed, like the computer or one of the 1000 electronic gadgets that we own, I'm the one that breaks out the instruction manual and fixes it. I love violent video games but I also enjoy RPGs and Sims-like games. I love anime, the Discovery Channel and slasher flicks but I also enjoy talk shows and some chick filcks. I've stopped getting in the pit at shows (I fractured my skull a year ago in a pit) but I still love going to shows and rocking out to my favorite songs. I love my music and am more of nerd about my music than anything else...

In the end, I believe that society plays a part and so does nature. Obviously, nature is what causes us to be one gender or the other. Society tells us that girls are supposed to be pretty, soft-spoken, neat, and organized. They're supposed to be good with words, bad at math, and dislike getting dirty and sports. Girls aren't supposed to get into fist fights or mosh pits. Blah Blah Blah....Boys are supposed to like those kinds of things and are encouraged to do things like fight, perform well in school, like sports, hate reading.......Blah Blah Blah....Some people are just a mixture of traits and a bit of both as far as personality goes.