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post May 13 2004, 09:24 PM
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Ok, I hope this is PG-13 but this isn't really nasty or supposed to be, but the question in the matter is:

Should condoms be distributed at school? Why or why not?

(i.e.: to prevent pregnancies, STDs, etc.)

What do you think?
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:27 PM
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I think that would be cool, ya know? But then again it might send the wrong impression like... maybe it'll seem like they're encouraging us to have sex. But i actually would be for it... I think they should. It sure beats having to go to the liquor store to buy some, lol
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:29 PM
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Uhm, our school passes out condoms but not publicly. you have to goto the nurse and they'll give you some no questions asked.

i also agree with elba, that they might be encouraging sex when they do. we had a debate on this topic in sociology.
 
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Hmmm... I think the parents should decide whether to distribute condoms to their kids or not. *shrugs*
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:31 PM
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wouldnt that be encouraging sexual acts during school?
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:31 PM
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i dont think so... cuz i think they would be telling you... *kids.. its ok to have sex.. at your age* its like they are telling you to have sex...
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:35 PM
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It would be a good idea for the nurse only to hand them out....i mean look how many kids has kids in school...there are a lot at my that pregnant or have kid(s) already....and even if they are not given out at school...for those that are on medicare they are free...
 
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post May 13 2004, 09:37 PM
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Well, it's sure better than saying, "Ok, you go on and have sex without a condom, contract STDs, get pregnant."
 
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post May 13 2004, 10:04 PM
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why else distribute condoms if not to encourage sex?
 
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post May 13 2004, 10:11 PM
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Hmm.. I guess it would be okay for them to have them.. but like not in the open... where the students can go and ask ..maybe theyll talk em out of it.. i dunno cause it can start to cause problems.. especially with the parents
 
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post May 13 2004, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(mystical @ May 13 2004, 9:29 PM)
Uhm, our school passes out condoms but not publicly. you have to goto the nurse and they'll give you some no questions asked.

i also agree with elba, that they might be encouraging sex when they do. we had a debate on this topic in sociology.

same with our school and you can buy them in the guys washroom for 50cent. hmmm, i learned how to put a condom today in sex ed class, lol.... blink.gif
 
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i dont think they should ditribute them out like that... they should just... give if someone asks for one... cause i mean, passing them out publicly give some people curiousity which leads them to want to try them and all. blink.gif

but, contrary to that, some people need them and will not use them unless someone actually gives them one you know? its ebtter to ahve protection.
 
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i think yess..i understand why a lot of ppl say no because it would be "promoting teens to have sex" or whatever..but at least they are being safe about it..i mean think about it..sex and get pregnant or sex and be safe?? hMmMm..hard one...NOT..so yeah.. i think condoms should be distributed at school..of course not just like "heyy how are you herres a condom" but like..if they were in the nurses office where ppl could walk in and get a couple if they need them or something
 
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i think they shouldn't be having sex in the first place stubborn.gif
 
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i think they shouldn't be having sex in the first place stubborn.gif

Whether or not you think that, some people are gonna be doing it anyways... so yeah
 
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hmm... im not sure. i dont think so cuz it means dat da skool is promoting sex
 
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post May 14 2004, 12:28 AM
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of course they should distribute condoms!! people are so immature for thinking otherwise. they should in high school. I believe kids are ready for sex in high school. also, kids will have sex if they want to, regardless if they have a condom or not. SO PROTECTION is the way to be.
 
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QUOTE(waccoon @ May 13 2004, 9:31 PM)
wouldnt that be encouraging sexual acts during school?

I totally agree. Considering that if you're caught younger than 18 having sexual intercourse, you will be taken to court and no matter WHO the guy is, he will most likely be charged for rapage, even if the girl acknowledged the fact that SHE was engaged in the sexual intercourse. So it would be a little embarrassing to go get some condoms lol. And plus, even if they DO pass them out at school, nick is right, it will encourage sex. Students are going to think it's right at their age, when it's not.
 
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QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ May 14 2004, 12:28 AM)
of course they should distribute condoms!! people are so immature for thinking otherwise. they should in high school. I believe kids are ready for sex in high school. also, kids will have sex if they want to, regardless if they have a condom or not. SO PROTECTION is the way to be.

blink.gif The legal age for having intercourse is 18. I dont think immature is the case here, i think it's more like being conservative and being legal (even if most teens do it anyway)

I think otherwise. Kids are not fully aware of the reason for sex except for enjoyment even in highschool. True, some may truly be in love and what not, but sex can sometimes twist a person's mind and cause them to sleep around more for the pleasure than being fully engaged in it for the right reasons. This leads to the whole hoe/jiggalo deal. blink.gif

Yes, protection is the way to be. i agree on that. but...

"kids will ahve sex if they want to"
But those kids dont realize that its not a matter of if they want to or not, its a matter of true commitment, love, and sincerity not a matter of "because i want to" thoughts.


and you're wondering... how do i know this stupid bs? i have no clue... blink.gif im not a debater as you can see...
 
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post May 14 2004, 12:38 AM
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They sell condoms at the Evergreen Valley College for 25 cents in the girl's bathroom.
 
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... gurl's bathroom? wow... huh.gif i would expect it to be somewhere else... blink.gif
 
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QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 13 2004, 10:46 PM)
... gurl's bathroom? wow... huh.gif i would expect it to be somewhere else... blink.gif

I think it's in the guy's too. But I wouldn't know, of course. shifty.gif
 
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HAHAHA laugh.gif you are so cute!! anyways.
why would they have it in the gurl's bathroom? ohmy.gif what, female interraction encouragement?? blink.gif i hope that was pg-13... if it wasnt, i'll edit it out. ohmy.gif

i dont think my hs is going to have those *thank God* i dont want condoms laying on the floor of the guy's bathroom all dirty and used and stuff blink.gif and i dont even think i wuld dare touch one *no offense* i would feel... impure to laugh.gif i guess you can say im typically a 14 year old.
 
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free condoms?! whereeee
 
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QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 13 2004, 10:55 PM)
HAHAHA laugh.gif you are so cute!! anyways.
why would they have it in the gurl's bathroom? ohmy.gif what, female interraction encouragement?? blink.gif i hope that was pg-13... if it wasnt, i'll edit it out. ohmy.gif

i dont think my hs is going to have those *thank God* i dont want condoms laying on the floor of the guy's bathroom all dirty and used and stuff blink.gif and i dont even think i wuld dare touch one *no offense* i would feel... impure to laugh.gif i guess you can say im typically a 14 year old.

Lmfao.. it was at the college so yeahhh.. College people =P

Ew.. used comdoms on the floor?! USED?! sick.gif Haha.. when we were at the college, I actually bought one =P That was last yearr.. because I had classes at the college. :Mwahhahaaa: *ahem* Moving on..


Condoms should be allowed at school.. just not for like public.. taking? Like Henry's school.. where you have to ask for one?

I don't think it's promoting sex..
With or without condom, you're still having sex.
The school just doesn't want you to have the risk of getting pregnant or being a father.. I guess..
 
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QUOTE(xjjajeengx @ May 14 2004, 12:37 AM)
blink.gif The legal age for having intercourse is 18. I dont think immature is the case here, i think it's more like being conservative and being legal (even if most teens do it anyway)

I think otherwise. Kids are not fully aware of the reason for sex except for enjoyment even in highschool. True, some may truly be in love and what not, but sex can sometimes twist a person's mind and cause them to sleep around more for the pleasure than being fully engaged in it for the right reasons. This leads to the whole hoe/jiggalo deal. blink.gif

Yes, protection is the way to be. i agree on that. but...

"kids will ahve sex if they want to"
But those kids dont realize that its not a matter of if they want to or not, its a matter of true commitment, love, and sincerity not a matter of "because i want to" thoughts.


and you're wondering... how do i know this stupid bs? i have no clue...  blink.gif im not a debater as you can see...

Alright, do you live in Canada? There is no such "legal" age to have sex. You can't have sex with a minor if you are over 18 (which kind of sucks, because unless your boyfriend is EXACTLY the same age as you, you'd be committing a crime by having sex with them before your 18th birthday if he's already 18). This is the ONLY law regarding sex and age. Sure, be conservative, it's your choice. However,
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But those kids dont realize that its not a matter of if they want to or not, its a matter of true commitment, love, and sincerity not a matter of "because i want to" thoughts.


No. Hello? Some kids are idiots, and don't love the person they are having sex with. But others, do love their partners. It's a way of expressing themselves. They will have sex if and when they want as well. Whether or not they have sex is not your business, it's not mine either. But schools should distribute condoms for those who are making their own personal decisions about their bodies, so there aren't any mistakes.

Me? I just buy my own condoms, and wink at the salesperson as i do. biggrin.gif they know what's up!


also, not to be predjudiced, but i've noticed that a lot of asians are opposed to sex. i don't know why... but just an observation. i'm asian but i don't feel this way..
 
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Condoms being passed out at schools does promote sex in a way, but it's better to promote a little safe sex then to have some kids risk unprotected sex.

4 couples having safe sex, sex promoted by condoms at schools > 2 couples that decided to go ahead and have unsafe sex.

">" = lesser of two "evils".
 
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nope. buy your own if you want them so much. people will just use them to make practical jokes around school.
 
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well mabye not handed out but possibly like alittle box in the nurses office or something, i think if they were handing them out people would thik its ok to have sex at such an early age : wink.gif
 
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also, not to be predjudiced, but i've noticed that a lot of asians are opposed to sex. i don't know why... but just an observation. i'm asian but i don't feel this way..


How'd you end up with this observation?_smile.gif
 
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I'm not trying to bash you or anything, but sit down and think about this question. How does one end up with an observation? Perhaps by observing?
 
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My middle school and highs school's approach to sex education and teaching about STDs was to basically make us do projects on STDs and instill nothing but fear into us.

[ However, you could always tell which kids were in health because you would hear conversations in the hallway like 'what do you have?' 'I got herpes.' 'Cool. I got chlamydia.' ]

I think it would have better if they also discussed ways to prevent the STDs more than just scaring us with nasty pictures. I think passing out condoms would have helped.
 
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QUOTE(rivendell @ May 14 2004, 1:16 PM)
My middle school and highs school's approach to sex education and teaching about STDs was to basically make us do projects on STDs and instill nothing but fear into us.

[ However, you could always tell which kids were in health because you would hear conversations in the hallway like 'what do you have?' 'I got herpes.' 'Cool. I got chlamydia.' ]

I think it would have better if they also discussed ways to prevent the STDs more than just scaring us with nasty pictures. I think passing out condoms would have helped.

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Yea they should. Only start at like sophomore year of high school, because that would be influencomg 9th graders.
I mean, they're gonna do it anyway, so at least encourage them to protect themselves. Would you rather be friends with a pregnant girl in her sophomore year, or see a condom?
Well maybe not GIVE them out, give them to people planning to use them for...you know.
 
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i think its a good idea.
my high school does it and a lot of girls ask for them and because they didnt have to face the humilition of buying one, they use it when they're having sex. it helps a lot and a lot of girls are grateful for it.
the school isnt TELLING YOU to have sex. they're telling you "we know youre doing it anyway, just please, be safe." and thats a good message to send. that they're not commanding you, but asking.
 
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uhhh......im sayin they should cuz some kids are gonna do it anyways......so mite as well give them protection
 
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If people want condoms, they can buy it themselves.

Passing out condoms is like encouraging kids to have sex.

And there is also a chance that people can transmit stds and get pregnant, even WITH condoms.

So I say no.

What the school really should do is teach kids about abstenance (did I spell that right?)
 
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Alright, do you live in Canada? There is no such "legal" age to have sex. You can't have sex with a minor if you are over 18 (which kind of sucks, because unless your boyfriend is EXACTLY the same age as you, you'd be committing a crime by having sex with them before your 18th birthday if he's already 18). This is the ONLY law regarding sex and age. Sure, be conservative, it's your choice.

I was referring to the "no sex with minor" thingy (except i had it all wrong) my bad. rolleyes.gif i apologize.
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No. Hello? Some kids are idiots, and don't love the person they are having sex with. But others, do love their partners. It's a way of expressing themselves. They will have sex if and when they want as well. Whether or not they have sex is not your business, it's not mine either. But schools should distribute condoms for those who are making their own personal decisions about their bodies, so there aren't any mistakes.

But thass not the point whether or not its our buisness, the point im trying to say (sorry if i confused you) is that KIDS ARE IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO SEX because of influence and just today's whacked up society. So, passing out condoms is like encouraging them to have sex, especially since kids these days are curious (like kids haha)
Well, it WILL become our buisness if the person you happen to marry, cherish, and show intimate love with happens to be someone that slept around in highschool and contracted aids or some other disease, and it will also become ur children's buisness when their father has to tellt hem that the reason why they're going to die before they turn 20 is beacuse he gave aids to them. I mean, passing out condoms in highschoool may help to save a few people from getting AIDS, but its not going to do them well if they dont chose to wear it all the time and end up sleeping around like hoes. I'm not saying its a bad idea, my saying is that its encouraging them to sleep around thus it shouldnt be done. Our world hs become some sick@$$ place... i mean, i know some people who just sleep around like 3 times a week with like different guys every frikken time, guys that are like 12876418763821763 older then them, and they're younger than me. Passing out condoms in my opinion is like saying, "Sleeping around is fine, as long as you use protection." Okay, condoms arent even 100% protective all the time everytime.

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Me? I just buy my own condoms, and wink at the salesperson as i do.  they know what's up!
also, not to be predjudiced, but i've noticed that a lot of asians are opposed to sex. i don't know why... but just an observation. i'm asian but i don't feel this way..

laugh.gif HAHAHAHA LOLS!! wink.gif okay back on track.
Well, maybe it's cause our parents arent really open with the term "sex." they're very... erm... secretive about it. I mean, when i walked in on my parents having some quality time when i was a preshcooler, okay.... i mean, my dad was like yelling at me and my mom was all blushing but mad at the same time. goodness. laugh.gif all they ahd to do was shoo me out. JEEZ. but as for most american families, i think that the mom and the daughter always talk about bfs and such, sometimes i wish it was like that with mynes too... cry.gif bu anyways.
Not all asians are conservative on sex. In my opinion, i think that alot of asians start sex early... esp. like gurls and guys who are really like... outgoing and are influenced by sisters and brothers who are like that. I mean, like almost all of the group i hung out with in 6th grade started having 'fun' in 6th grade... YES i know that is disgusting. maybe thass just my school being really gross, but i've heard so many things from my other friends in cali (basically from church) about how their friend's parents dont give a sh!t and they're never home ands tuff, and so they have like all these "gurl and guy" times where they happen to be missing for a while... huh.gif no more details. basically, i dont agree with this observation completely, but i guess most "typical" asians laugh.gif are. i dont know...
 
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I was referring to the "no sex with minor" thingy (except i had it all wrong) my bad. rolleyes.gif i apologize.

But thass not the point whether or not its our buisness, the point im trying to say (sorry if i confused you) is that KIDS ARE IDIOTS WHEN IT COMES TO SEX because of influence and just today's whacked up society. So, passing out condoms is like encouraging them to have sex, especially since kids these days are curious (like kids haha)
Well, it WILL become our buisness if the person you happen to marry, cherish, and show intimate love with happens to be someone that slept around in highschool and contracted aids or some other disease, and it will also become ur children's buisness when their father has to tellt hem that the reason why they're going to die before they turn 20 is beacuse he gave aids to them. I mean, passing out condoms in highschoool may help to save a few people from getting AIDS, but its not going to do them well if they dont chose to wear it all the time and end up sleeping around like hoes. I'm not saying its a bad idea, my saying is that its encouraging them to sleep around thus it shouldnt be done. Our world hs become some sick@$$ place... i mean, i know some people who just sleep around like 3 times a week with like different guys every frikken time, guys that are like 12876418763821763 older then them, and they're younger than me. Passing out condoms in my opinion is like saying, "Sleeping around is fine, as long as you use protection." Okay, condoms arent even 100% protective all the time everytime.


laugh.gif HAHAHAHA LOLS!! wink.gif okay back on track.
Well, maybe it's cause our parents arent really open with the term "sex." they're very... erm... secretive about it. I mean, when i walked in on my parents having some quality time when i was a preshcooler, okay.... i mean, my dad was like yelling at me and my mom was all blushing but mad at the same time. goodness. laugh.gif all they ahd to do was shoo me out. JEEZ. but as for most american families, i think that the mom and the daughter always talk about bfs and such, sometimes i wish it was like that with mynes too... cry.gif bu anyways.
Not all asians are conservative on sex. In my opinion, i think that alot of asians start sex early... esp. like gurls and guys who are really like... outgoing and are influenced by sisters and brothers who are like that. I mean, like almost all of the group i hung out with in 6th grade started having 'fun' in 6th grade... YES i know that is disgusting. maybe thass just my school being really gross, but i've heard so many things from my other friends in cali (basically from church) about how their friend's parents dont give a sh!t and they're never home ands tuff, and so they have like all these "gurl and guy" times where they happen to be missing for a while... huh.gif no more details. basically, i dont agree with this observation completely, but i guess most "typical" asians laugh.gif are. i dont know...

Hopefully you won't marry the type of guy that would sleep around. Of course kids are idiots when it comes to sex, but everyone's gone through it! Well, not everyone. But it isn't the school's job to teach moral values. Just because they hand out condoms doesn't mean people will suddenly start sleeping around and contracting AIDS. There is a certain personality type that "sleeps around," and they will do this regardless. Condom or not. So wouldn't you want to minimize the chance of those "hoes" spreading "AIDS" to your "future husband" by giving them condoms? Giving out condoms doesn't encourage sleeping around... no one is weak minded enough that the concept of protection will choose their personal values FOR them. The person decides this for themselves when they are ready, condom or not.
 
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I agree with TBoltzbabe. I mean, I don't think it's bad that schools distribute condoms because it is not telling kids "Go do sex, here's protection". It's just a way to prevent STDs and pregnancy for those who choose to have sex. It depends on your moral values and stuff. If a person is not planning to have sex, they are not going to get a condom. I mean, it just depends on the person.
 
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well i think it's a good idea to give out condoms; after explaining why you should use it. not to encourage sex, but safe sex. not pressuring people to have sex just because some people do. it's just they're decision. just look at it this way, how many people are already having sex, safe sex? how many are already pregnant and not ready for it? man, they should talk about birth control also..
 
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I acutally odn't think so. A lot of kids wouldn't have sex because mostly they are scared of buying a comdom, or getting caught with one or something. But if thy are just given out around scohol....I think it might possibly encourage them to do it.

I mean, its a good idea and all, the theory is good, but would it really work is the thing.......
If they don't wanna use a condom, they won't. It has nothing to do iwth if they own one or not.

I think they should be educated about safe sex though.
 
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I acutally odn't think so. A lot of kids wouldn't have sex because mostly they are scared of buying a comdom, or getting caught with one or something. But if thy are just given out around scohol....I think it might possibly encourage them to do it.

no no, you see, in high school, if they are planning on having sex, they will. if they are too scared to buy condoms, they won't use one. and that is why they need to be distributed at school.

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what about like dildos....I mean, practice safe sex, MASTURBATE =P


And um yeah... that was sort of rude... please don't post things like that, that's pushing the appropriateness level...
 
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Hopefully you won't marry the type of guy that would sleep around. Of course kids are idiots when it comes to sex, but everyone's gone through it! Well, not everyone. But it isn't the school's job to teach moral values. Just because they hand out condoms doesn't mean people will suddenly start sleeping around and contracting AIDS. There is a certain personality type that "sleeps around," and they will do this regardless. Condom or not. So wouldn't you want to minimize the chance of those "hoes" spreading "AIDS" to your "future husband" by giving them condoms? Giving out condoms doesn't encourage sleeping around... no one is weak minded enough that the concept of protection will choose their personal values FOR them. The person decides this for themselves when they are ready, condom or not.

Well, I personally know lots of people whoa re okay right now, but in the past, they ahve been a bit on the ... more intimate side with females...

yea, i agree wih the whole "kids are idiots when it comes to sex" part. and also the "everyone is going through oit." But thass the whole point. Everyone is going through having so much sex without much cause, and whatnot. But the fact is that so many of my "connections" <---(lols haha i sound retarded) have past experiences they regret so much because of sex. Especially so many of my pastors, and leaders regret so much, and wish they never had done sex.
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school was not only established to teach students to read and write and study. I mean, reason why we study social studies other than learning political stuff... we learn moral values and learn from others' past mistakes.
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Im not saying that every case will be like that. Im saying that even if so rarely, there are cases such as these and thye should be taken into consideration.
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being sometimes the stupid humans we are, sometimes people dont get it that thye arent ready; they simply go by their curiouslity wich leads them to do stupid things at times. Passing out condoms can and possibly will encourage people to have sex, esp because of curiousity. True, people make their own decisions, but sometimes, esp in highschool, people will be stupid at their own risk when it comes to sex. Im not syaing that everyone who does sex is bad or anything cause i disagree with that. I just dont want anyone to have to go through so much because of some mistake they did in highschool, because they werent ready but curiousity led elsewhere.
 
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Yes and No.

Its basically a no win situation either way.
If you hand them out at school then people might think you're encouraging them to have sex.
But it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
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yeah, i'd much rather have a 100% protection rate and increceased sexual activity than decreased sexual activity but have the entire sexually active high school infested with STDS
 
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i think it's just encourageing students to have sex... but they should... because one maybe better off having sex with a condom than with out

they shouldn't be passing them out... but if the students want some they can go ask the nurse... like what henry said
 
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i think it's just encourageing students to have sex... but they should... because one maybe better off having sex with a condom than with out

they shouldn't be passing them out... but if the students want some they can go ask the nurse... like what henry said

I agree... I guess it shouldn't be like "here you go, have a condom, go have safe sex" but rather give them one, or two, if they go request some at the nurses office
 
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condoms dont really protect u against STDs whlie u have sex, u knoe that? =/
 
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Umm. to me i dont think so because some people could use it for rape and others just to have sex and i know i wouldnt want so see people having sex in the hallway but thats only my perspective.
 
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Hmmm... I think the parents should decide whether to distribute condoms to their kids or not. *shrugs*

yeah i agree...but parents shuldnt be giving their kids that its ok to have premartial(spelling...bad speller) sex either.......
 
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i think that they should be distributed because kids are having sex and they need some way to protect themselves. its bad enough that there are so many diseases out there and to have no protection then that would make it worse..plus it helps to decrease the amount of teen pregnancys...
 
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i think that they should be distributed because kids are having sex and they need some way to protect themselves. its bad enough that there are so many diseases out there and to have no protection then that would make it worse..plus it helps to decrease the amount of teen pregnancys...

exactly. kids ARE having sex. true some arent. but this isn't a matter of abstinence- this is a matter of helping those who ARE having sex be protected from STDs. that's just selfish- just because YOU aren't having sex doesn't mean no one else is. think about the people who are. they aren't bad people. i have sex with my boyfriend, i'm in high school, i'm not a bad person, and i don't make bad choices. if you think it's a bad choice, that's your business, but that isn't for schools to decide. they don't teach children their morals in high school. they educate the students. and it would be helpful if they offered free condoms to minimize the STD statistics amoung high schoolers.
 
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i think.. if that district have alot of "bad" students .. like.. druggies.. alcoholics.. or sexually active people.. and they know about it... They should..?

otherwise.. not really bc theres other things better than having sex
 
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yes!! free condoms are the best..but i dont think not alot people have sex in school.
 
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NOOOOO

if they do then who knows wat could happen in school and it just makes sex more and more appealing to kids
 
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they are saying if ur going to do it..might as well be safe!
 
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NOOOOO

if they do then who knows wat could happen in school and it just makes sex more and more appealing to kids

That's like saying, "We should abolish the rules of war, and from now on just nuke every country whenever we fight, because if fewer people die in war, that just makes war more appealing."
 
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That's like saying, "We should abolish the rules of war, and from now on just nuke every country whenever we fight, because if fewer people die in war, that just makes war more appealing."


thats not what im saying at all

im saying that because kids see sex as something appealing....

first of all i dont think most parents like the idea of condoms being given out to their kids

secondly they already talk about abstinence in school so y would they give u condoms when sex is the complete opposite of abstinence

this is basically what they would be saying....

practice abstinence but if all else fails use condoms to protect urself

that really doesnt make any sense
 
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Well if they want to say "practice abstinence, but use condoms if you must" then they should give them out, shouldn't they?
 
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i got taught abstinece. but heck, i didn't listen.

all i heard was that STDs kill you. blah blah blah.
 
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Ok, I hope this is PG-13 but this isn't really nasty or supposed to be, but the question in the matter is:

Should condoms be distributed at school? Why or why not?

(i.e.: to prevent pregnancies, STDs, etc.)

What do you think?

If they distribute condoms at school, that's sending both a positive message, and a negative message.

If they distribute condoms at school, that's SOMEWHAT saying that it's okay to have sex whilst young as long as you have a condom. I know, I know.. they're not seriously trying to send that message if they distribute them, but some people might get that idea and start to experiment around.

The positive message is that condoms keep yah safe. That is very true.
It's probably a hell of a lot easier for everyone to get a condom from the school, than going out and buying one at a drug store..

It's a good thing to teach kids.. the fact that condoms keep yah safe, and that you should use them when having sex.

Personally, I think abstinence is the best condom.. happy.gif .. if that made sense..
 
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I'm undecided. On the one hand, it would be a good idea to lower STDs. On the other hand, I find it wrong to waste people's tax dollars because some kids are irresponsible. I think that each school should be free to make their own decision.
 
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i think that would be supporting sex..
a kid would take it and say
'oh.. they give this to me to USE'
so, no.. it shjouldnt..
 
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No it's saying sex exist.

It's like war. Saying that there should be rules of war is not saying that war's okay, it's acknowledging that war will always exist no matter what.
 
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uhmm..no, 'cuz if the condom breaks and the girl gets pregnant, her mom might like sue the school or something like that... pinch.gif
 
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Sue for what? If the school didnt distribute the condom, she would have gotten pregnant anyways

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It's like war. Saying that there should be rules of war is not saying that war's okay, it's acknowledging that war will always exist no matter what.

EXACTLY. They're accepting the fact that teenagers will still go ahead and have sex anyways, regardless of the fact that it's illegal and regardless of their parents restrictions.. so they might as well make sure the teens have protected sex
 
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They already have classes encouraging the "best sex" (as my Sex ed teacher was told to say) so condoms would further encourage sex in schools. Its ok to have sex but not mid- high school age or in that location... I mean ive heard of weird places to have sex but school isnt 1 of dem
 
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Actually its not..

1. The parents may forbid it
2. Its illegal for minors to have sex, even with each other
 
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It's not illegal for minors to have sex with each other. It's only illegal for a minor to have sex with an adult... At least that's the way it is in PA.

Either way, statutory rape is a victimless crime that enforcing laws against is definitionally harmful. It should be legalized.
 
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It's not illegal for minors to have sex with each other. It's only illegal for a minor to have sex with an adult... At least that's the way it is in PA.

Its illegal here..

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Either way, statutory rape is a victimless crime that enforcing laws against is definitionally harmful. It should be legalized.

Why should it be legalized?
 
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Its illegal here..


Why should it be legalized?

1) Where is "here"?

2) It should be legalized because it is a victimless crime. The only way to enforce laws against a victimless crime is to violate the privacy of innocent people -- which does more damage in the long-run than the victimless crime itself. No one is harmed, so no one reports the crime. Therefore, the police cannot catch anyone, or even know that crimes occur, unless they spy on people, violating their legal due process rights under the Fourth Amendment. Now pedophilia is different. If a kid is seriously too young that it is considered exploitation, then the parents of the kid should be able to report the crime. But if it's a 16 year old, then no crime will be reported. The only way to enforce laws, therefore, is to snoop into people's private business. Sex is not the government's business.
 
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1) Where is "here"?

2) It should be legalized because it is a victimless crime. The only way to enforce laws against a victimless crime is to violate the privacy of innocent people -- which does more damage in the long-run than the victimless crime itself. No one is harmed, so no one reports the crime. Therefore, the police cannot catch anyone, or even know that crimes occur, unless they spy on people, violating their legal due process rights under the Fourth Amendment. Now pedophilia is different. If a kid is seriously too young that it is considered exploitation, then the parents of the kid should be able to report the crime. But if it's a 16 year old, then no crime will be reported. The only way to enforce laws, therefore, is to snoop into people's private business. Sex is not the government's business.

1. Here is California where its supposedly illegal (at least my Health Ed. teacher said that)
2. Well if the minor comes forward and reports it or something? Snooping isnt required to enforce it.. I mean.. ok, the police shouldnt be out looking for cases like that, but if one is reported.. why should it be legalized?
 
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1. Here is California where its supposedly illegal (at least my Health Ed. teacher said that)
2. Well if the minor comes forward and reports it or something? Snooping isnt required to enforce it.. I mean.. ok, the police shouldnt be out looking for cases like that, but if one is reported.. why should it be legalized?

1) Your health ed teacher is probably lying... California being a liberal state and all.

2) If the minor comes forward and reports it, the chance of that is almost zero. And when a teenager does report that, most of the time it would be just to get back at the person older than 18, even though the teenager is just as responsible. There is too much room for abuse in this situation. People are sexually mature after puberty. After puberty, they are biologically meant to have sex. That's how it is. Creating a legal fiction above that is only going to cause more harm.
 
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*shrug*

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2) If the minor comes forward and reports it, the chance of that is almost zero. And when a teenager does report that, most of the time it would be just to get back at the person older than 18, even though the teenager is just as responsible. There is too much room for abuse in this situation. People are sexually mature after puberty. After puberty, they are biologically meant to have sex. That's how it is. Creating a legal fiction above that is only going to cause more harm.

How is it causing harm? I dont see that..
 
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Well, guys at my school already hand out condoms to their friends. blink.gif I mean I guess it has its ups and downs. You wouldn't have to go to the store. But, yeah, it's like encouraging them to have sex. But at least, it'd be SAFE sex. huh.gif
 
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Well, guys at my school already hand out condoms to their friends.  I mean I guess it has its ups and downs. You wouldn't have to go to the store. But, yeah, it's like encouraging them to have sex. But at least, it'd be SAFE sex. 

Its not encouraging them.. its acknowledging the fact that they will have sex.. and besides, its not like the school hands it out to everyone, just the people who ask (at least that's how it works here..)
 
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nah, i dont think its a good idea. it would just encourage more sex. if ppl really want to have sex, then they should take the resposibility and go get their own condoms at a drug store or wherever.
 
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nah, i dont think its a good idea. it would just encourage more sex. if ppl really want to have sex, then they should take the resposibility and go get their own condoms at a drug store or wherever.

But that's just it.. teenagers dont like to do that.. its better to be safe and have them available at school..

Seriously.. teenagers and responsible... isnt exactly the most common combination, sadly enough..
 
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How is it causing harm? I dont see that..

It would cause harm because people would simply exploit the law to "get back" at boyfriends/girlfriends, even when they were just as responsible for hte sex.
 
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Heck yeah...why not I say? People are going to do so at least promote safe sex! Those things can get costly..haha!!
 
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yea i agree wit ^^^^^

its not like ppl rnt having sex, so y not make sure they r using protection when they are having sexual relations with others.

and u dont really have 2 pass it out, but make it avaliable for the students 2 get without embarassment, so that those that are participating in intercourse, can get the condoms.
 
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yea i agree wit ^^^^^

its not like ppl rnt having sex, so y not make sure they r using protection when they are having sexual relations with others.

and u dont really have 2 pass it out, but make it avaliable for the students 2 get without embarassment, so that those that are participating in intercourse, can get the condoms.

Yup, my point exactly; people are saying that the teens should buy them themselves at the pharmacy.. but they dont like to do that because they may feel embarassed; and the school making it available without embarassment helps
 
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yes distrubution of it is needed cz teens are often time lazy and of course embarassed to buy em the hassles!!
so it should be !
 
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yea they distribute them in my school you just have to go to the nurses office.
 
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nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing/encouraging us to have sex..
 
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nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing us to have sex..

Not really...schools just want protection. Whoever wants to get them it's their business. It's a lot about morals too. I mean, like me personally, I wouldn't get a condom, even if they were free. Schools aren't handing them out, just saying that they have them for whoever wants them. =\
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nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing/encouraging us to have sex..

They're better protection than nothing..

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Not really...schools just want protection. Whoever wants to get them it's their business. It's a lot about morals too. I mean, like me personally, I wouldn't get a condom, even if they were free. Schools aren't handing them out, just saying that they have them for whoever wants them. =\
For crazy teens...bleah

I agree completely ^
 
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nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing/encouraging us to have sex..

Actually where did you hear that? I believe they DO protect against STD's. Maybe you're thinking of birth control pills. Well if im wrong (which i doubt) condoms still prevent against teen pregnancy. Schools would be encouraging us to have sex if they handed out condoms to everyone. My school has them available if you ask.
 
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Even though distributing condoms will be somewhat of an "encouragement" from schools to have sex, it's better than not having them at all. Kids are stupid, I know, I am one, and either way they'll do it, so why not have it the safe (99% lab results my ass, more like 70%) way?
 
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I suppose it's a good idea. Although it would be encouraging to curious teenagers, but at least it's better than teenagers getting curious without them. biggrin.gif

But of coarse theres always the fact that most of your teachers will know your having sex. Which I guess is sort of awkward.
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 10:15 AM
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But of coarse theres always the fact that most of your teachers will know your having sex. Which I guess is sort of awkward.

No they wont; my school has them avaliable anonymously at the nurses office.. no one has to know, kids'll use it and be safer..
 
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post Jul 14 2004, 02:20 PM
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no. parents would never agree.
 
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Actually they will and they do.. our school does it, parents know about it, so obviously they agree that its for the better..

They dont want their kids to be sexually active, but they acknowledge that they cant supervise them 24/7 so its better for the schools to offer confidential protection
 
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no.. i disagree with that.. i don't like the fact that some people make a joke out of it and open the wrappers and toss the condom around the school.. it's just annoying.. plus.. is the school promoting sex...? i don't like the idea of pre-marital sex.. and if the couple is smart, they wouldn't even need the condom cuz they wouldn't have sex...
 

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