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post Jan 2 2006, 06:01 PM
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Two adventurous American college buddies, Paxton and Josh, backpack through Europe eager to make quintessentially hazy travel memories with new friend Oli, an Icelander they've met along the way. Paxton and Josh are eventually lured by a fellow traveler to what's described as a nirvana for American backpackers--a particular hostel in an out-of-the-way Slovakian town stocked with Eastern European women as desperate as they are gorgeous. The two friends arrive and soon easily pair off with exotic beauties Natalya and Svetlana. In fact, too easily. Initially distracted by the good time they're having, the two Americans quickly find themselves trapped in an increasingly sinister situation that they will discover is as wide and as deep as the darkest, sickest recess of human nature itself--if they survive.


basically two hours of people getting tortured. shit looks scary as f**k. haha. whos going to watch this? i hope it actually has a storyline and is a "psychological thriller" instead of trying to be as gory as possible. i heard its been banned from certain cities and movie theatres because of the gore. the same person that made "Cabin Fever" made this, and Cabin Fever was terrible. who is going to watch it?
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 06:03 PM
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Haha Yeah I saw the trailer yesterday and it gave me the chills...I think im not gonna watch it because im not into horror movies anymore...I like more dramatic/comedy/fighting movies and all that...
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(yo pusha @ Jan 2 2006, 6:01 PM)
the same person that made "Cabin Fever" made this, and Cabin Fever was terrible. who is going to watch it?
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Wait wasn't the person who made Hostel Quentin Terrintino or am I talking about another movie?

Anyways I want to see this movie...just to see what happens to the two but yeah
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 06:42 PM
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Eli Roth wrote and directed both movies while Quentin Tarantino produced Hostel.
 
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i might watch it
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 06:47 PM
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oooooo man at first i didnt' care to watch it, then after the second or third time i saw the trailer on tv i hella wanna watch it now. comes out this friday, im gonna pursuade my friends to watch it with me lol
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 07:24 PM
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The trailer creeps me out every time I watch it pinch.gif But I cannot wait for the movie to come out! Looks really really good!

Reminds me a little of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre because of the torture and stuff. It's not based on a true story, right?
 
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I wanna see it!! Looks really good.
 
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quentin tarantino made it :D

so its bound to be really gory.
 
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I've got a weak stomach for those torture scenes and stuff.
I don't think there is any way I'm going to see this movie.
The movie poster looks promising, lol.
 
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I wanna see it, I probably wont though. laugh.gif
But I do want to, it looks soooo gross.
 
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i'm scared.

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post Jan 2 2006, 11:01 PM
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IM GOING TO WATCH IT.

I'm excited for this movie. haha I saw the previews for it the night Saw II came out. It looks goooood.
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(yo pusha @ Jan 2 2006, 6:01 PM)

basically two hours of people getting tortured. shit looks scary as f**k. haha. whos going to watch this? i hope it actually has a storyline and is a "psychological thriller" instead of trying to be as gory as possible. i heard its been banned from certain cities and movie theatres because of the gore. the same person that made "Cabin Fever" made this, and Cabin Fever was terrible. who is going to watch it?
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its made by Quentin tarentino he is the one that made kill bill which is a great movie. and plus i am curious so i am definately going to watch it.
 
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lol the commercial on tv with the warning freaks me out. i might see it
 
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Nah, I'm passing on this one. Movies like this scare me not necessarily because of the scenes in the movies but , because people do stuff like this for real. ermm.gif
 
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post Jan 3 2006, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(pandamonium @ Jan 2 2006, 11:04 PM)
its made by Quentin tarentino he is the one that made kill bill which is a great movie. and plus i am curious so i am definately going to watch it.
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Quentin Tarantino just produced it .... he isn't directing it. That's what they want you to think when they say Quentin Tarantino Presents in the trailer. Its called advertising.

It looks interesting ... its a film about snuff films, which is a topic of discussion that totally freaks me out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_films
 
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post Jan 3 2006, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Teesa @ Jan 2 2006, 5:24 PM)
Reminds me a little of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre because of the torture and stuff. It's not based on a true story, right?
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it's not based on a true story, but it's based on true events. if u go to their site they have some stories and facts about ppl getting murdered in foreign hostels and human trafficking and stuff like that... Hostel Site
 
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I want to watch it (: I love blood and gore. Although, this just might be the very first movie to ever make me want to stay awake at night.

My brother says there is something wrong with me, because im never afraid of anything.
 
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QUOTE(yo pusha @ Jan 2 2006, 7:01 PM)

basically two hours of people getting tortured. shit looks scary as f**k. haha. whos going to watch this? i hope it actually has a storyline and is a "psychological thriller" instead of trying to be as gory as possible. i heard its been banned from certain cities and movie theatres because of the gore. the same person that made "Cabin Fever" made this, and Cabin Fever was terrible. who is going to watch it?
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12 o'clock session anybody?
 
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Dude. I'm so watching this.
 
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:30 PM
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im definitely seeing this movie. I love really gory movies and i hope this ones especially brutal!!!! devil.gif
 
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Reminds me of SAW.
 
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AHHH LOOKS WAY TO SCARY!! I like scream whenever I see the preview.
 
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QUOTE(Tribal J_Rome @ Jan 3 2006, 2:17 PM)
it's not based on a true story, but it's based on true events. if u go to their site they have some stories and facts about ppl getting murdered in foreign hostels and human trafficking and stuff like that...  Hostel Site
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Oh goodness..that is so scary!! Aw, Jay Hernandez is in it..he will probably die, how sad! sad.gif

I'm seeing it this Friday! I can't wait!
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 10:36 AM
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I have been wanting to see Hostel for about a year now. Eli Roth showed alot of vision and promise in Cabin Fever and I was dieing for a follow up. Over the years, Eli has gained a great deal of respect for asian extreme cinema, most notably in the films of Miike Takashi. Mr. Takashi himself even has a cameo appearence in Hostel.

Lots of inspiration and influence are going to be thrown into this work and I can't wait to see it. It is my strong belief that Eli knows alot about his trade. He loves horror films and has worked in film, in some way, nearly all his life. Shooting short horror flicks as a kid on Super 8. Covering his borthers in ketchup and telling them to stay as still as possible. They're dead.

The guy is knowledgable and skilled. Expect a draw back to 1970's exploitation film. It's gonna be a wild ride. I'm sure.

Now, for my criticism. My criticism is in no way directed towards Mr. Roth. Well, maybe indirectly. It's directed to the distribution companies of Lions Gate and Screen Gems as well as Mr. Tarantino. Eli Roth has worked very hard to get this film made. Lions Gate had bought distribution rights to Cabin Fever, and Eli was very happy with them. They distributed the DVD and helped to build a wide theatrical release. One big problem seems to have arised that the public doesn't quite know about. For some reason, Eli has dropped the DVD distribution to Screen Gems and left a theatrical release to Lions Gate. Can you say contract obligations? I have an inkling that Eli doesn't like Lion's Gate for some reason, and they have his balls for another.

Moving along, this film has embarresingly been pimped out to big time and big names. Quentin Tarantino, love him to death, but he has to stop whoring his name out to every other 'big' release. I'm tired of seeing Tarantino's name larger than Eli's. Hero? The hell! I'm sick and tired of seeing Tarantino get just as much credit, if not more, for Sin City. Mr. Rodriguez and Miller did a fantastic job. The film will speak for itself, stop trying to patranize us Dimension.

Just on this forum alone, there have already been several people with the impression that Tarantino has made this film. Sweet Jesus! It actually works?!

Several people, knowing how much a fan I am of Tarantino's, have already come up to me. This was during the theatrical release of Saw 2. *sigh*

"Did you hear Tarantino has a new horror film?!"
"Grind House? Are you talking about Graind House? Please tell me you are talking about grind house."
"Grind House?"
"Yeah, it's Tarantino's horror film. Well, his and Rodriguez's. It's in pre-production right now"
"Oh? He has another one?!"
"No. Just that one."
"That can't be right. I just..."
"...saw Saw 2?"
"Yeah? How did you know?"
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"It's called Hotel."
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No wonder they do it. This shit actually works!

Sure, maybe this film wouldn't get as wide a release if Tarantino's name wasn't all over it. Sure, maybe more people will now see a great film. Maybe that's what Tarantino wants, maybe that's why he is whoring his name out. For the little guy. Maybe. But, what does Eli Roth want? And why has he changed distribution for the DVD to Screen Gems? Did Lion's Gate refuse to make Quentin's name a bit smaller? Maybe not screem it out at the top of their greedy lungs any more? For whatever reason, the truth of the matter is that someone high up at Lion's Gate borrowed some cash from Tarantino in, or maybe even after, post production.

Quentin Tarantino has absolutely nothing to do with any creative aspect or making of the film Hostel. He is just a presenter. At best, an "executive producer." He has nothing to do with the intellectual property. I like both Lion's Gate, and QT. I really do. Sometimes, they just piss me off. Poor uninfluential and insignificant Eli Roth. Maybe someday he'll get the recognition he deserves.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 01:12 PM
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What makes you think Eli Roth has promise? Cabin Fever was absolutely atrocious. You're giving the guy too much credit for nothing.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 03:08 PM
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this movie looks good =]

cant wait to see it!
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(veve @ Jan 4 2006, 1:12 PM)
What makes you think Eli Roth has promise? Cabin Fever was absolutely atrocious. You're giving the guy too much credit for nothing.
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Why do you feel that Cabin Fever was "atrocious?"
What do you consider a better more recent horror film?
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 09:09 PM
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Agreed with Acid Bath Slayer on the Tarantino issue. Dude is basically selling his name to any movie. But Cabin Fever was horrible.
 
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^i also agree. this is sh!t that i could not imagine tarantino doin when he was makin those indie classics. what the fcuk is his next project aneways? is he still making that movie "inglorious bastards". ive been looking for a tarantino directed film for some time now.
 
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QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 5 2006, 1:02 AM)
^i also agree. this is sh!t that i could not imagine tarantino doin when he was makin those indie classics. what the fcuk is his next project aneways? is he still making that movie "inglorious bastards". ive been looking for a tarantino directed film for some time now.
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News on Inglorious Bastards seems to be chill. The film might not even have a "filming" script written up yet. So, expect it in late 2006 at earliest. Grind House, Tarantino and Rodriguez's new horror flick, is in pre-production. Nearly in production. On a live chat with Mr. Rodriguez, over at DVDFanatic, I heard him mention that he had even filmed some parts for his own segment in the film.

Expect Grind House before Inglorious Bastards.

This is the only real stuff of any true significance in serious consideration right now. Unless you want to count Kill Bill Vol. 3 or something silly like that.
 
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looks like another SAW [II]

I don't mind the horror genre but when it comes to excessive gore I cant watch it.

A pychological thriller movie is much more interesting [to me] because it doesn't just rely on visual images. Something that has a scarry concept is much more likely to haunt you for a longer period of time then a few gory images. Because you can always tell yourself its fake/realize its fake.
 
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^ and you didn't consider saw II a psychological thriller?

btw thanks for the update acidbathslayer.
 
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QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 5 2006, 7:30 AM)
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Ohh yeah. No problem

Also, I didn't think Saw II was gory at all. Also, I thought it sucked. This is for sure not a Saw rip-off. Infact, Saw hadn't even come out yet until two years after the idea begun brewing in Eli's head to write and direct Hostel. It will be an original creation, I'm sure. I would expect alot more brutality, and actual gore. But, at the same time, I believe that there is a very real possibility that the gore hound buzz is just buzz and nother more. I guess we'll see.
 
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I really want to see this movie.
I <3 Horror Films!
 
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 5 2006, 10:54 AM)
Ohh yeah. No problem

Also, I didn't think Saw II was gory at all. Also, I thought it sucked. This is for sure not a Saw rip-off. Infact, Saw hadn't even come out yet until two years after the idea begun brewing in Eli's head to write and direct Hostel. It will be an original creation, I'm sure. I would expect alot more brutality, and actual gore. But, at the same time, I believe that there is a very real possibility that the gore hound buzz is just buzz and nother more. I guess we'll see.
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i agree that sawII wasn't that gory but i dont think it sucked. i do agree that it couldve been a better movie if it were better casted among other things, but i definiteley dont think it sucked. getting back on topic, has the movie been edited at all from its original form? hollywood has done that with a lot of foreign films and i wanted to know if this was the same.
 
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QUOTE(vash1530 @ Jan 5 2006, 12:37 PM)
has the movie been edited at all from its original form? hollywood has done that with a lot of foreign films and i wanted  to know if this was the same.
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It's not really a foreign film. It's very much an american film despite a diverse range of nationality represented both in the film and in the crew. The writer and director, and most producers are american. Although it was shot in the Czech Republic, and most of the film takes place in Iceland, it's still an American film. I think something like nine languages are spoken in the film with no subtitles whatsoever. It's some kind of record.

Anyways, the film was first shown last year in november on the festival circuit in Iceland. Not long after it was shown in Canada at the Toronto Festival, the same festival Cabin Fever saw it's first big showing. It's theatrical release in Iceland is the same theatrical release here in the states. Tomorrow.

The rest of the world has to wait. Heh heh.

As for editing down from it's original form. That happens all the time. It's a given. However, insofar as I can tell, the cut that is going to be shown in Iceland is the same cut being shown in the states. So, don't worry about any washed down versions. We're pretty much all seeing the same material for the first time tomorrow.
 
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damn, after reading about inglorious bastards, i can't wait till more about the movie comes out, seems like a good plot. like like war movies and ww2 stuff
 
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Okay, I just saw it tonight.

I must admit, I was really disappointed. I didn't like it that much. sad.gif Oh, well, Jay Hernandez is still ever so beautiful.
 
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yeah shit was straight garbage!!!

here ill sum up the movie

first half of the movie was just ass and boobies.. ass and boobies.. then the second half uh oh... eye puss... torture.. gore..

movie over

complete garbage

i want 2 hours of my life back

garbage... trash.. litter.. waste.. missy elliot.. debris.. droppings.. juelz santana's cd.. excess.. kangsta.. "rubbish".. scraps.. junk.. sewage.. lil wayne...

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT
SHIT IS POO POO.. DOO DOO.. ASS

watch munich instead
 
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^Haha, thank you Steven. What was up with all of the sex? The movie could have saved so much time without it and added more of the actual plot, instead of all that unnecessary hollywood stuff. ARGH.


edit//Okay, the eye part made me squirm.

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I agree with the above. The movie was garbage. After seeing the trailer I thought that it would be awsome. I was in for a huge suprise. An hour of sex and girls naked and then thirty minutes of what the trailer presented. Except you didn't see much of anything. The plot was so weak, next time they need to take out all the bullshit and actually make a movie properly.
 
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Looks interesting. I'd pay $6.95 to watch.
 
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everyone said it was stupid and should have ben much more gorryer.
 
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Somehow, I think I'll like it. Everyone hates Cabin Fever, I love it. Everyone hates The Blair Witch Project, I love it. I guess I have an odd taste in horror films.

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I don't know though. I am skeptical.
 
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I agree with the above. The movie was garbage. After seeing the trailer I thought that it would be awsome. I was in for a huge suprise. An hour of sex and girls naked and then thirty minutes of what the trailer presented. Except you didn't see much of anything. The plot was so weak, next time they need to take out all the bullshit and actually make a movie properly.
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WHAT?!

Damn I've been waiting for this movie... >___<

I like violent and disturbing movies, oh well, I'll still try it out to see if I like it. You said it had a lot of sex and naked girls? Sorry but that's a good thing. rolleyes.gif
 
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^Haha, of course you would like all of that rolleyes.gif But honestly, it was too much.
And I don't know if I quite understood the plot, but whatever. I wouldn't watch it again.
 
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QUOTE(i_liek_sushi @ Jan 7 2006, 12:04 PM)
WHAT?!

Damn I've been waiting for this movie... >___<

I like violent and disturbing movies, oh well, I'll still try it out to see if I like it. You said it had a lot of sex and naked girls? Sorry but that's a good thing.  rolleyes.gif
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yes it sounds good on paper, but i wanted to watch a movie with the slightest hint of a plot, a movie that actually made sense, and a movie that was actually a "thriller".

hostel is basically... a soft porno for 60 minutes, and video from your knee surgery for the other half.
 
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eeek. the previews are scary. i wanna see it. :DDD
 
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I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I'm not saying it was the most amazing movie ever but it wasn't that bad, honestly. About all the sex seen in the movie...well it's rated R. You gotta be expecting SOME of that especially when it's about two boys from college. Sure, the movie could have been made with less of it and more of the actual torture part but then I'm pretty sure you all would be complaining "oh my god! that was such a horrible movie. there was way too much gore and killing and it was so disgusting. i could barely sit through it without wanting to throw up". And all the sex actually played a role in the plot.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.
 
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Jan 7 2006, 11:47 PM)
Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.
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i saw it todai and i have to say that it wasn't bad. it had a decent and interesting plot that got boring at times but for the most part kept my interest. It did end kind of abruptly and that was the worst part of the movie for me. i thought it was very original and the blood and gore was excellent. i have to say that there were a lot of tits but, in case u didn't know, seduction plays a large role in the plot so there was bound to be something like that. i really liked the main charachter though. and the kid gangztas!!!!
 
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Jan 7 2006, 11:47 PM)
I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I'm not saying it was the most amazing movie ever but it wasn't that bad, honestly. About all the sex seen in the movie...well it's rated R. You gotta be expecting SOME of that especially when it's about two boys from college. Sure, the movie could have been made with less of it and more of the actual torture part but then I'm pretty sure you all would be complaining "oh my god! that was such a horrible movie. there was way too much gore and killing and it was so disgusting. i could barely sit through it without wanting to throw up". And all the sex actually played a role in the plot.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.
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Yeah we see and follow the plot, but some of us definitely did not think that the plot was very well done. And yes, the sex did play a role in it, but come on. Just because it's rated R, doesn't mean that half of the movie has to be like that. I hate comparing it to Saw, but that was a really good movie and didn't need any of that.
 
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QUOTE(yo pusha @ Jan 7 2006, 7:17 PM)
yes it sounds good on paper, but i wanted to watch a movie with the slightest hint of a plot, a movie that actually made sense, and a movie that was actually a "thriller".

hostel is basically... a soft porno for 60 minutes, and video from your knee surgery for the other half.
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Ahaha. My friend said that it was basically about cutting people's knee caps off. Sad.
 
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^dont remember any knees getting cut off. jus brutal torture. i think the sex worked well with the overall movie.
 
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QUOTE(yo pusha @ Jan 6 2006, 10:38 PM)
yeah shit was straight garbage!!!

here ill sum up the movie

first half of the movie was just ass and boobies.. ass and boobies.. then the second half uh oh... eye puss... torture.. gore..

movie over

complete garbage

i want 2 hours of my life back

garbage... trash.. litter.. waste.. missy elliot.. debris.. droppings.. juelz santana's cd.. excess.. kangsta.. "rubbish".. scraps.. junk.. sewage.. lil wayne...

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT
SHIT IS POO POO.. DOO DOO.. ASS

watch munich instead
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HAHAHA just as I suspected. Most [R rated] horror movies rely too much on gore now a-days and completly forget about the story. This would be the case for the piece of crap I saw yesterday, BloodRayne.

Haven't seen Munich yet, was it good?
 
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doesnt the toe cutting part remind you of Wentworth in PB ermm.gif, creepy.
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Oh what a disapointment, ass and boobies LOL. Ew, cutting people's knee cap off... ew, how strange.
 
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QUOTE(Teesa @ Jan 8 2006, 1:44 AM)
Yeah we see and follow the plot, but some of us definitely did not think that the plot was very well done. And yes, the sex did play a role in it, but come on. Just because it's rated R, doesn't mean that half of the movie has to be like that. I hate comparing it to Saw, but that was a really good movie and didn't need any of that.
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Jan 7 2006, 10:47 PM)
I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.
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I already addressed the fact that the plot was not the best. By the way, you yourself mentioned that you weren't even sure if you understood (followed) the plot.
QUOTE(Teesa @ Jan 7 2006, 4:59 PM)
^Haha, of course you would like all of that rolleyes.gif But honestly, it was too much.
And I don't know if I quite understood the plot, but whatever. I wouldn't watch it again.
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Of course Saw didn't need any of the sex. Sex was not part of the plot in Saw. The only reason these two movies get compared are because of the torture and gore otherwise really nothing is similar about them. The story lines are extremely different. There are several reasons why there was so much sex portrayed in this movie. Obviously it played a role in the whole plot so that's why it was there. To the extent it was there was to give more emphasis on it (because it really is the only reason why they go to the hostel thus making it important) and because sex sells. Hollywood will do what they can to make money and it has been proved time and time again that sex makes the money.

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Okay, I should have stated it differently. I wasn't sure if I understood the plot throughout the movie, but afterwards, I just thought it was plain dumb. It's just my opinion, I didn't like the movie.

And I'm just saying that they could have cut out at least some of the sex. It was seriously like half of the movie.
 
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LuvsDogs387, I thought Munich was good. I just hated the ending... it ended in a stupid way. But good movie.
 
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the trailer actually gave my nightmares...

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QUOTE(Teesa @ Jan 8 2006, 4:55 PM)
Okay, I should have stated it differently. I wasn't sure if I understood the plot throughout the movie, but afterwards, I just thought it was plain dumb. It's just my opinion, I didn't like the movie.

And I'm just saying that they could have cut out at least some of the sex. It was seriously like half of the movie.
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Yes, they could have cut it out but it would have left out several important parts and it would also have had less of an effect/emphasis. It's honestly not even that much sex if you think about it. What could they have cut out? Hmm, perhaps the part where they meet the guy and there is a couple in his room having sex. That's about it. The part where they go and pay for the prostitutes in important in showing 1) they want sex that badly and 2) it develops Josh's character thus making it make more sense later on in the movie when he decides to go back to the hostel instead of staying at the bar. Hmm, another part where sex is shown...when they are at the hostel having sex with the girls. This is again important because 1) it shows how 'stupid' they were and careless because they just let Oli leave and 2) it shows how these girls decieved/lured them.

We talk about how much sex there is but what about how much drinking and smoking is going on? Should they have taken that out too? No. Because it is important to the plot and it needs to be there for emphasis.

So many movies have sex in them. Have you all seen Love Actually? It's supposed to be some romantic movie but one of the couples is a porno couple. Yes, they could have gotten rid of that couple, there would have been less sex, but the plot and emphasis would have been different.

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I think they could have just showed them going to the prostitute place, without showing all that. There are so many movies out there where it implies people are having sex or have had sex, without showing it. And it still makes the point clear.

And Love Actually, the porno couple to me was ridiculous. I didn't get why they were in it. Yeah, it was cute at the end where he asks her out or something, but the other couples were more central to the plot.
 
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QUOTE(Teesa @ Jan 8 2006, 2:44 AM)
I hate comparing it to Saw, but that was a really good movie and didn't need any of that.
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But it's rated R. A lot of those implied times are in like PG13 movies or on tv shows. And the times where it doesn't show it are usually when it's not as important to the movie or when there is something else to complement it. For example, in 40 Year Old Virgin, not all the times that everyone has sex in the movie is shown. It doesn't need to be shown. You can tell because of how raunchy and how they all talk and because of the title of the movie that you don't need every guy in the movie to be having sex.

Oh and in the prostitute place it actually doesn't SHOW them having sex. It really does imply it. After all, the doors are shut. All you see are the shadows and you hear them.

The porno couple was there to emphasize the point that love can happen to anyone, between any couple. Just like Hugh Grant was this politician and then the lady he fell in love with was basically a nobody, just like Colin Firth and how him and the lady he loved had a language barrier, etc.
 
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^Haha, we did. She liked it, I didn't. And you didn't, right?

Yes, I get it, it's rated R. And I did not like 40 year old virgin either.
 
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i thought it was a really good movie. esp the scences with the car.
 
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Jan 7 2006, 10:47 PM)
I don't really get what people are saying. There is a plot. I see and follow the plot. It might not be as ingenious as we all wanted it to be, but it is still there.

I'm not saying it was the most amazing movie ever but it wasn't that bad, honestly. About all the sex seen in the movie...well it's rated R. You gotta be expecting SOME of that especially when it's about two boys from college. Sure, the movie could have been made with less of it and more of the actual torture part but then I'm pretty sure you all would be complaining "oh my god! that was such a horrible movie. there was way too much gore and killing and it was so disgusting. i could barely sit through it without wanting to throw up". And all the sex actually played a role in the plot.

Oh, and it was not scary at all. I didn't expect it to be scary in the first place. I expected it to be a movie somewhat similiar to Saw.
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I just saw it yesterday. I wasn't disapointed. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

The criticism based in the amount of nudity or sex shown is very shortsighted if you ask me. It misses the entire point of the film. We follow these boys as they take a trip across eastern Europe in an attempt to find hot Euro babes, legal (or non legal) drugs. They are chasing that thrill, and price isn't really much of an obstacle.

"Flesh-for-fantasy"

In the film's 2nd act, this is highly contrasted with an entirely different "flesh-for-fantasy" playing off nearly the same philosophy: Hedonism. Chasing that thrill, not caring much for those unfortunate to become of victim of your pleasure high, money not being much of an obstacle. These fantasies are right at your fingertips, but does that make it right? Just because it is so accessible?

The breasts, the sex, the drugs, the decadence, and seductive sceneries are sold-out for gore, blood, screaming, vomit, vile and disgusting imagery.

To me, it does not seem that Eli Roth was glorifying his characters actions in the 1st act of the film, rather, he was, in a way, demonizing them. In the end, they become the victims of that same chase for thrills that they set out for in the beginning.

To me, this was the most powerful message in the film. This is what sealed the deal for me. The contrast was so bold and vivid that the torture became just that much more severe and grueling. If it was not for the nudity, this emphasis would not exist.

(Also, I think the amount of "sex" was so exagerated. I was told to expect softcore porn. Sorry, no. It was not any where near that much sex.)

(Think about the movie more. Discuss it. I think there are some very interesting ideas being put forth here. Note the contrasted Euro chick "Love" for Americans, and the reality of the hatred of Americans at the "art show." Heck, Americans are the most exspensive. Think about our "Hero's" humiliation in the torture chamber, his "American" arrogance, and ignorance is stripped in a second as he pleads for his life. Abandoning his heritage, he speaks in German in an attempt to persuade his torturer. Think about the venge kill. Our "hero" just went through a pay-to-kill mill for rich and powerful. He just esacped, he's safe. And, instead of running further away, he drags himself closer, not only in proximity, but in philosophy, by consciously pursueing a venge kill. That's disturbing.)
 
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i was going to watch it just because jay hernandez is on it, but my cousin threw up continuously after the movie, so no.
 
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i heard this movie went like this... porn for the 1st hour and then just nasty at the end.. not scary or anything. just nasty...

sounds interesting hto
 
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 11 2006, 10:07 AM)
I just saw it yesterday. I wasn't disapointed. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

The criticism based in the amount of nudity or sex shown is very shortsighted if you ask me. It misses the entire point of the film. We follow these boys as they take a trip across eastern Europe in an attempt to find hot Euro babes, legal (or non legal) drugs. They are chasing that thrill, and price isn't really much of an obstacle.

To me, this was the most powerful message in the film. This is what sealed the deal for me. The contrast was so bold and vivid that the torture became just that much more severe and grueling. If it was not for the nudity, this emphasis would not exist.

(Also, I think the amount of "sex" was so exagerated. I was told to expect softcore porn. Sorry, no. It was not any where near that much sex.)

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Yes, they could have cut it out but it would have left out several important parts and it would also have had less of an effect/emphasis. It's honestly not even that much sex if you think about it. What could they have cut out?
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QUOTE(M1SSxCHR1SSY @ Jan 13 2006, 1:13 AM)
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

You said my point exactly.
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i love GORE .

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yea ppl have to stop diissin this movie. i thought it was definitely a solid film.
 
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QUOTE(xiMiJix @ Jan 13 2006, 8:56 PM)
i love GORE .

if quentin tarantino is part of it yea mangggz ill watch it.
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Anyway, I just saw this...umm, it was fu-ked up, but still...not as bad as ya'll are saying. As Chrissy and Acid Bath have said, it really wasn't a lot of sex. Really, I've seen more on Cinemax Late Night. Also, it added to the reality of the movie and to it's f**ked-up-ness.
 
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I saw this a few days after it came out. I can certainly see the commentary on Amerocentrism, as well as the theme of hedonism. There really is a lot more to this movie than meets the eye. Of course, a lot of people will just see it for the blood and gore, and miss the message—but this isn't really the fault of the filmmakers.

Cinematographically, the movie was well executed, and I really thought the use of music was quite effective, too.

Would I care to see it again, though? Not really. It wasn't exactly my kind of movie. I think it was well worth it to see it once, but I wouldn't be interested in seeing it again.
 
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I saw this and I was thinking to myself...meh, it's alright. If there was an underlying message to it I totally missed it. I was more impressed by the movie High Tension than this.
 
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I can't wait to see this. its gonna rock. Quentin Tarentino is a good judgement of movies.
 
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I watched it.
Didn't get really scared...it had an interesting plot. There was too much nudity, however. Some of it may not have been required but added to the plot efficiently. It was suspenseful and interesting.
 

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