A&F = Racist Brand Against Asians., Read Now! Options

[*Statistik*]

If this belongs in fashion, feel free to move it.

As an Asian-American, I was pretty pissed off when I read the recent articles on Abercrombie & Fitch featuring negative, stereotypical images of Asians on their new line of T-shirts, which I’m glad got pulled off the shelves of every single A&F store.

One of the shirts has a picture of two Asian men at the Wongs Brothers Laundry Service and reads, “Two Wongs Can Make It White.” I don’t know if you find this to be funny but I really don’t think this image is something to be laughed at. It can greatly offend the earlier generations of Asian-Americans who came to this country having to earn a living through such hard manual labor jobs. A & F spokesperson Hampton Carney claims that they make fun of everyone, but I’m sure Abercrombie would never even dare to put out an image of blacks picking cotton or Hispanics selling oranges on the street. This only shows how Asian-Americans are viewed to be apathetic and passive about such racial issues. It upsets me that they think they can get away with making a public mockery of Asians when in fact they know very little about the negative effects it can have on them.

Another shirt features a smiling Buddha image, which reads, “Abercrombie and Fitch Buddha Bash Get Your Buddha on the Floor.” What are they thinking? They’re bashing on a religious icon strongly valued throughout many Asian families. If A & F were to make a joke out of an image of Jesus Christ on the cross, I bet many people would be incredibly offended by it. I think religion is a touchy subject that they shouldn’t even mess around with in the first place.

Another shirt reads, “Wok-N-Bowl Let the Good Times Roll Chinese Food and Bowling,” which I don’t find to be as offensive but still creates an Asian stereotype. Some shirts also show smiling men with slanted eyes wearing dorky-looking conical hats, which creates a negative image of Asian males, when in reality many Asian-American men look nothing like it.

Although many of these negative images were mostly targeted towards the Chinese, I think it affects the Asian-American community and possibly other minorities as well. I was already annoyed at the fact A & F barely hires anyone outside the white race and by the fact that almost all the models in their catalogs are typical white people. When my Asian-American friend tried to get a job there and came in for an interview with a few of his white friends, the lady looked at him and said, “I’m sorry but we’re looking for more of an American look,” when in fact he was born and raised up in America.

I think it’s typical corporate America and society who’s always trying to make profits even at the costs of minorities. Although there has been some progress, Asians have a long way to go before they are accepted into the American society. American society preaches tolerance, but continues to practice blatant or subtle discrimination and racism towards people of color. It’s very easy to become racist when you are not aware of the privileges you have over other people, and I would probably blame society and the media more than just pointing fingers at certain individuals. It takes both the dominant society and the subdominant society to work together in order to bring about a change.

I think Asian-Americans should definitely take advantage of such opportunities like this; to voice out their opinions and frustrations of how the media, and the system that we live in, continue to portray Asians with negative stereotypes. I’m sick and tired of being stepped on and I think we have to blame ourselves for being so apathetic about these important issues. Nothing’s going to change if we continue to let these things pass by. If it weren’t for the angry mob of people who protested outside the Abercrombie store in San Francisco, or for those who called and sent mass e-mails to the company to complain about the shirts, they would still be in the stores today and the system would win us over once again.

Source: http://www.dailynexus.com/opinion/2002/2994.html

Another Article: http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/LatinoCau.../pr06272014.htm

If that's true, I'm never going in that store again. White motha fuckas trying to be racist HAHA...lmao...the owner can suck my d**k!!!!!! Shit's worthless anyways these days. I think I'm going to go on a strike in my mall tomorrow cuz....

Nuff Said.

[*mipadi*]

the owner can suck my d**k!!!!!!

A&F is a publically-held and traded company, so you just invited thousands of stockholders to suck your d**k. I suggest you sit back and enjoy, because this might take a while.

[jennyjenny]

"Published Friday May 3, 2002 "

Pretty old stuff.

[*Statistik*]

Yeah it's old...but I bet this issue is still going around...Cmon..what kind of a faggot ass jerk won't hire an asian person by saying "“I’m sorry but we’re looking for more of an American look"??? lmfao you've got to be kidding me

[me1issaaaa]

I've seen 3 Asians work in 2 different A&F stores.

[wayne]

[smearedmakeup]

A&F is a publically-held and traded company, so you just invited thousands of stockholders to suck your d**k. I suggest you sit back and enjoy, because this might take a while.

hahha

[*anubis*]

what's with the picture wayne?

[IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...]

LOL. jason's pic is so random. stupid wayne rofl

[shortiiex]

yeah i heard about that shirt like 4 years ago
and i wish i can just burn down all a&f stores

[AnnahhbeL]

[lKVNiiKINKYl]

My western civ. teacher last year talked about that.
Around here at least, they are hiring more minorities =)

[*Statistik*]

You guys shouldn't think this is a complete joke. I feel bad for the asians who shop there without knowing that the brand is racist.

[M16A4]

Okay, now compare this to FUBU.

It wasn't meant to be intentionally racist (FUBU stands for For Us, By Us), but I think that's what it turned out to.

[fameONE]

LATE

There's an estimated 500 million dollars worh of pending lawsuits against the company. Sue all you want, but feel free to wait a few decades for your money.

[BOOGERSHAHA]

I've seen 3 Asians work in 2 different A&F stores.

i'm not sure if you were trying to imply whether A&F is racist or not. because 3 asians in 2 stores really isn't a lot...

[angelrevelation]

that kid's so cute lol. and it's hilarious cuz this guy at my school does that and he looks so much like him

You guys shouldn't think this is a complete joke. I feel bad for the asians who shop there without knowing that the brand is racist.

i've only bought one thing from there lol, cuz i heard these rumors... the A&F at our mall isn't racist... i think... the cashier guy was hawaiin i think. so i guess it's ok. but... sometimes i guess it does give off that vibe. it probably depends on the location of the store because... some places ARE less diverse and thus might be more racist then others. and my church counselor worked there, and she's asian as well (as me).

[*jooleeah*]

there was a topic like this a while back. i can't find it...

um. no matter how angry you get, youre going to have to wait a while until this thing gets settled down.

[Chii]

that is old...but that is also why i don't shop at abercrombie&fitch and hollister. some things just are not funny

weren't they also in the news awhile back for having like basically naked people in their catologue?

[EddieV]

You guys shouldn't think this is a complete joke. I feel bad for the asians who shop there without knowing that the brand is racist.

I really don't care. As long as they have what I need...

[Ington]

Eddie, you're asian? :o
Haha, just kidding. :D

I personally think its disgusting, but what are you going to do? Stop buying their stuff if you feel so strongly, and if enough people do, the companies will see they aren't winning and will stop selling.

Or sue. Everyone in this country sues nowadays anyway.

[EddieV]

I feel like making a clothing brand based on discrimination now...lol

[*lolita kitty*]

-_-
I have alot to say about this, but I'd rather not.

[MrElsewhere]

???

deng foo. i can't even afford to shop there.

[smearedmakeup]

I really don't care. As long as they have what I need...

Yup, same here.

[demolished]

Haha. I never shopped at a&f so ... i wouldnt mind much about it. And oh yeah, i'm not ignorant. It's just that i dont even have problems with their store but i do support the horrible racist issue.

[sadolakced acid]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...ercrombie+fitch


that's closed, so i'll leave this.


but it is old. rather old.

[heyyfrankie]

A&F is a publically-held and traded company, so you just invited thousands of stockholders to suck your d**k. I suggest you sit back and enjoy, because this might take a while.

bwahaha

[Rachel]

A. This is old
B. There is already a topic like this in fashion..I believe it has something to do with Hollister as well.
C. Watch your damn language. You can get your point across without whipping out everything curse in the book. Besides, it doesn't make you look mature, it makes you seem that you are younger than what you are.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...ercrombie+fitch
that's closed, so i'll leave this.
but it is old.  rather old.

Meh, that means you should close this too.

It is almost like the controversey with Urban Outfitters "Everyone loves a Jewish girl shirt".

[*not_your_average*]

this IS old, jason. and a&f has overpriced, low-quality clothing. which is why i don't shop there. happy?

[WHOngos144]

A&F has overpriced clothes

[Hiphop d[-_-]b]

A. This is old
B. There is already a topic like this in fashion..I believe it has something to do with Hollister as well.
C. Watch your damn language. You can get your point across without whipping out everything curse in the book. Besides, it doesn't make you look mature, it makes you seem that you are younger than what you are.
Meh, that means you should close this too.

It is almost like the controversey with Urban Outfitters "Everyone loves a Jewish girl shirt".

I agree with everything she just said. Especially C.

[Heathasm]

yay another reason to hate a&f

[xSwEeTLtLaNgELx]

jjeeezz.. =/

[ryanoman]

A&F is a publically-held and traded company, so you just invited thousands of stockholders to suck your d**k. I suggest you sit back and enjoy, because this might take a while.

Lol... that made me laugh.

Anyway, I'm sure there are a lot of companies that are like this... not only clothing stores. I'm not saying the racism is right, because it definately isn't. I'm just saying there are many companies that hire certain people.

[Smoogrish]

That's insanely stupid. I don't really understand why, in the first place, people would buy those shirts, but I'm glad they got pulled off the shelves. Stupid assholes.

[*jooleeah*]

well, since this topic isn't being closed [yet], i'm going to move it to fashion...

topic moved

[xscore]

yeah, old news.
but that's not exactly racist.
more stereotypical.

[simx]

I really don't care. As long as they have what I need...

ditto, I don't go there very often anyway.

[nackchoon]

Okay, now compare this to FUBU.

It wasn't meant to be intentionally racist (FUBU stands for For Us, By Us), but I think that's what it turned out to.

Believe it or not, FUBU was a project started by a Korean company in the States as a new clothing line. Somehow it turned out to be the present day FUBU.

edit::
In fact, it was started by Samsung corporations

edit:::
Samsung came in later on
At first, it was started by a group of guys and then samsung came in later to help the mass production

[aznxdreamer]

yeah they are. when i was modeling i sent my pictures in to a&f about three times and they ignored me. that probably doesnt prove anything but notice how all their models are white.

i still dont like a&f. i walked in once and turned around abut five steps in.

[HybridCountdown5]

wow, i never heard that...i've seen plenty of asians working in A&F

[omgah_itsmaggiex]

wow, i never heard that...i've seen plenty of asians working in A&F

ive never seen that happen unless they were really really "hawt"

[ecargnmyst]

You guys shouldn't think this is a complete joke. I feel bad for the asians who shop there without knowing that the brand is racist.

well im not surprised..ive read lots of stuff about a&f discriminating..and i agree..i feel reeally bad b/c i see almost all the asian girls in my school going crazy over a&f and hollister..talking about the latest sales there and stuff...u shouldve seen all the A7f shopping bags around my school this xmas.. i dun even know what makes the store so speciall...

but then again..ive never shopped there..ive tried going into "all the rage" stores before..like old navy and american eagle..i didnt see anything special about them tho..O.o..clothes arent even nice looking -__-...but maybe its just me

[EddieV]

this IS old, jason. and a&f has overpriced, low-quality clothing. which is why i don't shop there. happy?

I agree they pretty much do, although sometimes they might have what I want that I can't find anywhere else. Normally I don't shop at that place anyway.

[ecargnmyst]

meh...i have no idea what they have..i just went on their site..i dont see y ppl would like it...-__- and also i came across this too haha

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/05/...ain587099.shtml

[flipnotik]

eh....things taken way out of proportion

[Mireh]

eh....things taken way out of proportion

agreed.

You all have to accept that Abercrombie and Fitch are not the only ones having these "asian-oriented" shirts. Other stores like Aeropastale and Forever 21 also used to have these types of shirts, but were THEY ever targeted like AF was/is? I think that the only reason it's so blown out of porportion is because many people view the brand as snobbish and overrated, and only want to get a stab back at the company.

These types shirts were "in" sometime ago, many clothing lines had stereotypical asian slurs and such on their clothing. AF shouldnt be spotlighted by itself, to do so is unfair.

[Just_Dream]

Wayne - ... rofl hahahahahhah no spamming though.. pfft.. hahahahahha lol @ pic


Yep this is definitely old news. I heard about this back in 8th grade. Come on, this was like, 4 years ago. Are they releasing another huge line of asian-oriented clothing? No. Yep, definitely out of proportion.

I agree with Val on this one -- there have been MANY companies that have manipulated the Asian culture, stereotypes, slang, etc. File a lawsuit against them? Are you kidding me? I thought this was cleared up after the whole protest thing... I barely hear anyone mention it nowadays. I saw it on TV back 4 years ago, where a HUGE line of Asians stood in front of the Fashion Valley Mall in San Diego outside of the A&F store.

I never knew Aero and Forever 21 did that? I've never seen their shirts potray that. Then again, I barely shop there anyways. And hey, isn't Forever 21 the store where people worked in sweatshops for low pay or something? There was a thread about it somewhere.. but still...

[Dragonfly_babe]

I've been there before and I never really see anything special....I think their clothes are too expensive....I don't think it would be fair to be mad at all of the people at A&F

[synthetic truths]

racism is everywhere more often than ever....sexism too...in song lyrics...commercials...tv shows...etc.


funny how people only noticed it on t-shirts.

but i suppose all you complainers knew this...right?

[innocentwinky]

Racism is everywhere. Who hasn't heard of racism in the clothing industry? Don't get me wrong but I remember Tommy Hilfiger .Everyone avoided buying the clothing .I think a lot Asians rather care less . We are group of minority that is silent bout major offenses towards us. If there was a problem, we keep it to ourselves. But if you were white , you would get ur complaint heard , and be on tv in 2 days. Asians, we have our ways. If you tell ur parents , they will say uh huh .. just dont buy the clothing , but you would never see the a group of asians on Good Morning ,America . It just doesn't work that way .Asians have too much conflicts within our "group" we can't easily join in and say we are united ..hear us COMPLAIN. Yes , i know it's patheic they would make a "hilarious" screen tee at our expense. Don't you think it's ironic that asians are usually making that shirt in the first place.. SIGH..

it's going to be that way until we finish inbreeding . There won't be no such thing as white ppl .

it's going to be irish-mexican-korean-chinese-jamacian-AMERICAN.

[blucheri]

wha??? racist shirts against asians. that sux.

whats sad about it is even if we wanted to boycott them it would probably never work.

Who is there large percent of buyers ?

[Just_Dream]

wha??? racist shirts against asians.  that sux. 

whats sad about it is even if we wanted to boycott them it would probably never work. 

Who is there large percent of buyers  ?

.... Um.. Did you EVEN click the link? Look at the date.. Yea.. Old news. I would think that those who've been to A&F or heard of it should know that there aren't really any more of these shirts. And if there are, there are very few because I went in there a few days ago and I haven't seen a single shirt. Come on, this is like.. 4 years ago

[*Statistik*]

^So what? Asians such as me are offended by that...even though I don't buy the clothes from there....Seriously f**k all the abercrombie models, all the people who manufactured abercrombie....f**k all the white people that manufacture it...they think this is a joke huh??? Treating us like shit....f**k them

[racoons > you]

oh be quiet jason. ranting like a buffoon helps not your cause.

and saying 'f**k the white people that manufacture it' makes you just as bad.

[*tweeak*]

Err, especially when you consider that there's that whole complain about things being manufactered in Asia far too often as it is

[racoons > you]

i assume he meant the people who design the clothes, but fair point

[*tweeak*]

Then he should watch his diction.

[racoons > you]

mmm.

i think diction is the least of his worries. ah wel

[*tweeak*]

Still. It concerns me.

[StubbornFemme]

Yeah, I heard about this and I even heard it from some of my friends. That store is really racist though, I am Asian too but I don't shop there and I will never plan to. I only been in there once and the employees that work there are a bit racist and look at you differently than a white person next to me. Who wants to shop there anyways? Their clothes are really expensive. Gees, are we made of money here? Don't think so!

[Mireh]

I never knew Aero and Forever 21 did that?

Yeppp they do, but it was a while ago, like say 3-4ish years when the oriental tees were "in"

I distinctly remember Aero having a red teeshirt with like bamboo on it, saying somthing about general chow's resturant or somthing of the sort.

I wouldn't call it racism, just bad marketing.

Oh yea and btw jason, be racist against white people. I mean, seeing what this board is about and all. :P [/sarcasm]

[synthetic truths]

shit half of us dont even care...

im part japanese and i had never even heard of this a&f crap till now.
i dont shop there...(the clothes are too high and not even worth the inflamed prices)....nor do i shop at forever 21 ( i actually do remember that lil fiasco...all mu hmong friends had a fit.)
and its like innocentwinky said....
you dont see us rallying about it...
we dont that type of shit....we'd rather stay out of the public eye.

[lea_]

im white but like most of whites in this coutry i say that racism is idiocity, crime and stupid...f**k all the racists!!!
all the races needs to b respected.

[The_AZN_Godfathe...]

I myself am Asian... but I don't really care about that. Well... it does kind of bother me it's a shirt and everything...

I own some shorts from A&F... Burn them?

Nah, that'd be a waste of my $50.

When you've heard all the racist stuff against Asians [not saying I have...] then this is pretty much a small thing.

Still, that shirt's pretty retarded.

[Bobblehead425]

eew. i hate abercombie anyway.

Thats not very nice of them..

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

If this belongs in fashion, feel free to move it.
Source: http://www.dailynexus.com/opinion/2002/2994.html

Another Article: http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/LatinoCau.../pr06272014.htm

If that's true, I'm never going in that store again. White motha fuckas trying to be racist HAHA...lmao...the owner can suck my d**k!!!!!! Shit's worthless anyways these days. I think I'm going to go on a strike in my mall tomorrow cuz....

Nuff Said.

Dude, you dumbshit, theres already a topic on this. Like 3 of them too. Plus this is old news.

[pandamonium]

i think asians are the most fashion conscious and i dont think this would affect most of them . and plus i never even saw these shirts at the local a&f store in that past years i have been shopping there.

[Mireh]

asian AF model.





the end.

[pandamonium]

asian AF model.

the end.

omg were is the asian model?

lol just kidding i thought it was just funny how you squared her face for us.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

asian AF model.

the end.

Or it can be a really chinky eyed white person with really yellow skin. Although the skin color wouldn't really show up on the picture.

[yo pusha]

she looks mixed

[*takingbacksandy*]

i know they hire GOOD-LOOKING asians.
i have friends that worked at a&f before.

[Just_Dream]

she looks mixed

Definitelly.. her face shape makes her look mixed.

... Jason... I'd have to say that there aren;t any non-asians (not that I've ever seen, either in real life or pictures) that have eyes like those. I mean look at them.. THEY SLANT and the eyelids are thin.. like.. a certain kind of thin.. a very ASIAN kind of thin. And she has a button nose... a small nose... An asian-ish small nose. END OF STORY.

Hahah yea it is funny how you boxed the picture. :P

It's still funny how some people still think this issue is still going on.. I mean come on people.. READ THE ARTICLE! Look at the date!

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

Someone close this.
There are already like, 10 threads on this.
I would search but.
Too lazy.