Advertising other forums Options

[Retrogressive]

I thought CB allowed you to advertise in your signature. I think CB should be much clearer in their rules rather than changing people's signatures without warning.

Doesn't CB state that we can advertise in signatures?

If we can have a Forum advertise in the Web site section I don't understand why my signature, along with others, as been altered. If you own a forum, it's considered a website that you put your time into.

[EriaNight]

If we can have a Forum advertise in the Web site section I don't understand why my signature, along with others, as been altered. If you own a forum, it's considered a website that you put your time into.

I AGREE! I have a forum---that's for FILM. And I don't understand how that competes in ANYWAY with CB.....

And now I'm no longer allowed to advertise?? No advertising forums completely?? My forum is for people who want to make films and LB's forum is set up totally different than CB is. It's set up like a prep school. This just doesn't make sense.

SHARE THE LOVE

[demolished]

Waste too much space ?
We have competing sites too.

I'm neutral.

[Retrogressive]

But there is a difference between competing sites and non-competing sites. We post our websites because CB helped us learn. And the fact that there are mods who ARE NOT CLEARIFING this subject makes everything confusing. If you are going to inforce a rule shouldn't it exist?

[EriaNight]

Waste too much space ?
We have competing sites too.

I'm neutral.

What do you mean wastes space?? It really Doesn't at all. A text link?? I've seen people here with links that truly are worthless and our forums have a point to them.

Text links take up very very little space. You could just stop the competing sites.

[Retrogressive]

I think we should focus on CB inforcing a rule that it doesn't have.

Advertising
Posting a thread for the sole purpose of advertising is not allowed. personal pages are only allowed in your signature, and commercial pages are only allowed for purposes of providing information.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=970

[technicolour]

Define: Commercial

[Retrogressive]

Commercial is a website that you purchase things from.

[EriaNight]

FORUMS are NOT Commercial sites unless people are making a profit off of them or indirectly making a profit off of them.

RF (retrofied forums) is not making money off of advertising in CB sigs in anyway. RF does not Deal with money at ALL. It was/is a site that was created for fun to host design competitions and earn points.

Differences Between RF and CB
-CB isn't split into houses/clubs and is not set up like a prep school; RF is
-CB was designed around offering layouts, RF was not designed with that as its soul purpose
-The Forums have different sections, different names, different everything
-RF was NOT branching off of CB and never intended to. It is a forum created as a different idea.

It seems...(In my opinion) that certain people on CB staff do not want advertising in sigs because they fear people leaving the forum. However, that is not RF's fault. If people leave your forum and join other forums the other forum did not kidnap your members.

Thank you.

[Retrogressive]

Thank you Molly, you're right.
And this isn't just about RF. This is about a few other forums I've had in my sig that people at CB are into as well. Forums like a Harry Potter Forum, a Writer's forum, and a film forum. These forums have not only been removed from my signature but also other CB members.

[Rachel]

Umm get over it. We weren't allowed to advertise GenEff and we dealt with it.

If people want to join, they will contact you.

[Retrogressive]

It's the principle that CB is inforcing rules that it doesn't have. I'm not trying to uproar about my forum. I'm trying to get this clearified for the CB users who have had their forums removed from sigs as well.

[EriaNight]

Umm get over it. We weren't allowed to advertise GenEff and we dealt with it.

If people want to join, they will contact you.

How about YOU get over YOURSELF.

GenEff was a different idea and several times was attacking CB's ideas.

No offense. I'm in a pissy mood.

And by the way, people do want to join, but the don't know the link and they do PM us.

[demolished]

What do you mean wastes space?? It really Doesn't at all. A text link?? I've seen people here with links that truly are worthless and our forums have a point to them. 

Text links take up very very little space. You could just stop the competing sites. 

I mean ... it takes up space according to one staff member. I don’t have proof for that. We can’t stop competing because other sites are against us ... including joking.

Instead of advertising, why not submit your site to createBlog Top site or use the personal message system.

[EriaNight]

I mean ... it takes up space according to one staff member. I don’t have proof for that. We can’t stop competing because other sites are against us ... including joking.

Instead of advertising, why not submit your site to createBlog Top site or use the personal message system.

WELL if you're going to consider putting up a link for a form "advertising" then putting up a link for a personal site is advertising as well.

And what i mean by that is NEITHER is actually advertising.

I never look at topsite, but I do look at people's sigs. I'm sure most people look at topsite and that oh all the forums we make get so high up that other people are actually going to get on them!

again, i'm in a pissy mood.
BTW we do use the personal message system.
And also it still isn't advertising.
And a link takes up less space then a PM

[demolished]

again, i'm in a pissy mood.
BTW we do use the personal message system.
And also it still isn't advertising.
And a link takes up less space then a PM

We deleted useless pms.


There are 3 topics with reasons why advertisements will NOT be allowed.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...65&hl=advertise

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...91&hl=advertise

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...94&hl=advertise


statements from random people ...

one reason i could think of as to why we have 'no ads' rule is that we don't get paid for it. meaning, when you advertise on yahoo!, google and the likes, they get paid for it, why should we have mass advertising, which takes up space and not be paid for it? spam is spam is spam.

and then even if we allow ads, what kind of ads qualify and which do not....

we have showcases where our members get a chance to 'advertise' their personal sites. that is enough advertisement, in my opinion.

couldnt say it better....well i dont think alot of people will go to a forum thats filled with links and click away to view them..and if they do thats all we can...because we already got the website of the month and the website help and so forth...so all we can do is advertise..which like racoons > you said thats what the sigs are for..

I don't think that's necessary...like the above have stated, we have signatures.

If your site's not getting lots of hits, then it probably means you're not posting on cB enough and people don't see your link.

And besides, an advertisement in a forum littered with ones identical to yours wouldn't help your site's popularity, people would just pass it by and eventually, the forum would become dead.

Well, considering that Dynasty appears to be some sort of Anti-CB forum and even makes fun of CB, it appears to be competing forum. As you should know, advertising of competing sites, whether it be by post or by sig, is not allowed.

[Retrogressive]

I don't consider linking in sigs as advertising to be quite honest. I see it as a list of people's projects. If I like them I want to check out what they've done so I can help out. I know even STAFF does that.

[*tweeak*]

I really had thought we had established advertisments in signatures had been sorted out, since during the Dynsaty phase, those got to stay. Now, I can kind of understand the ones that offshoot from cb, like rf and genf and clique etc, but the link to my friend's Harry Potter role playing forum Linda Belle had in her signature is gone too, and I don't think that makes any sense at all, especially since at one point we had a member called individualityy who had her own Hogwarts forum with a link in her signature and it never got removed, and a lot of dedicated members of cb joined. (I think we all stopped going quickly enough. but that isn't the point).

[Retrogressive]

Also I believe there are forums yet to be removed (rightly so since they have nothing to do with blogging) and when sA links were up no one removed those. And I can understand if forums were bashing CB. The Harry Potter forum was NOT and RF is for art and design and has NEVER bashed CB.

This post has been edited by Retrogressive: Dec 26 2005, 09:54 PM

[demolished]

The Harry Potter forum was NOT and RF is for art and design and has NEVER bashed CB.

cB is base on graphic. Rf and Harry Potter is base on graphic too ... just like you say.

There's official /designer membership's standard about loyality.

edit

I dunno about harry potter.

[Retrogressive]

CreateBlog is based on BLOGGING.

[EriaNight]

MY List of WHY this is SO Wrong:
(I have NEVER been this angry with a forum in my entire life. And I actually like the people on CB staff)

• Your "by-laws" are turning into the "laws" for a dictatorship and just to let you know the advertising thing ISN'T exactly WRITTEN INTO your "constitution"
• Nothing is proving to me that you actually know the differences between "advertising", "commercial", "personal", etc. Take it from someone who licenses songs from movies. If you have a PERSONAL movie you have to pay nothing. If you have a commericalized movie you pay a LOT
• I just love how you guys link to topics and get other people to do the work for you and quote other people all the time instead of trying to take the time and explain it yourself. Or maybe you just don't know how to explain it because you don't exactly understand it?
• Just because I meet someone on CB and start a forum with them does not mean the forum is a "branch off" of CB. I'm NOT PERMANENTLY ATTACHED TO THE CB BODY.
• Your rules can be very loosely interpretted...What's written is what's written; however they are kind of vague. The Catch phrase everyone has been quoting
  

  Advertising
  Posting a thread for the sole purpose of advertising is not allowed. personal pages are only allowed in your signature, and commercial pages are only allowed for purposes of providing information.

  
  Does NOT specifically say "NO FORUM LINKAGE! STOP IT NOW". It is NOT clear and it the actions that the mods are performing are NOT justified. YOU KNOW IT.
• I think sometimes CB goes to peoples heads. Guys, it's just a forum. All forums were created equal and SO WERE THE PEOPLE ON THEM. That doesn't mean SOME people should be allowed to do certain things while others aren't
• I don't care if you want me to leave, I don't care if you hate me now, and I really don't care if you think i'm right or not. I'm glad if you read this and took the time; my poodle is trying to eat my dinner, and so that i don't burst my bubble, I'm going to stop this post

You can quote me if you want and stab me in the back, but at least i gave an opinion without relying on SOMEONE else to do it for me!!

[technicolour]

Uhh Harry Potter is based on these books....

[demolished]

^
haha, i just realized it.

CreateBlog is based on BLOGGING.

Fine, it's both.

I just love how you guys link to topics and get other people to do the work for you and quote other people all the time instead of trying to take the time and explain it yourself. Or maybe you just don't know how to explain it because you don't exactly understand it?

Problems keep on happening again (foreverrr ... ). Who like to repeat themself? Why not quote ? Btw, I understand every posted quote.

[EriaNight]

Problems keep on happening again. Why not quote ? I do understand the quote.

Right but instead of explaining it for yourself---you go ahead and post 3 whole threads, which i actually took the time to look over.

A responsible person would state what his/her response is TO those threads instead of just POSTING THEM.

Ever written an English paper? You're supposed explain the quote.

And it doesn't matter if you "delete" useless PMs.

You're still wrong.

[Heathasm]

this is why we have the bylaws section to clear up all of these unofficial/unwritten rules that cb has . . . so im going to move this topic there for the bylaws committee to discuss and decide on

[Retrogressive]

Thank you Heather, I think this should be voted in by-laws.

[EriaNight]

Spritual Winged Aura.
I saw you edited your post...

1) You just posted more quotes said by other people to prove your point instead of explaining the quotes for yourself

2) You proved my point again.

Thanks.

Sorry for being mean ><

EDIT://and by the way, good job at giving credit where credit is due....when it came to all those quotes, we still don't know who said them...

At least we know that the main quote everyone's been referring to came from the rules and Jusun Lee!

[demolished]

It's alrite. I'm not a mean person at all!


---
I guess ... this topic can be close ?

neverrmind

I hope CB staff isn't trying to avoid this issue, because by the way this looks they are. This thread has yet to be concluded or even proven against. The committee needs to read it and vote, you should be aware of that Spiritual Winged Aura...?

I forgot, this went to by-laws. darn it. As i mentioned before, i'm neutral.

[technicolour]

^ Yeah uh NO! Not until something CLEAR is solved. The people need to know.

Even I'm confused...

[Retrogressive]

I hope CB staff isn't trying to avoid this issue, because by the way this looks they are. This thread has yet to be concluded or even proven against. The committee needs to read it and vote, you should be aware of that Spiritual Winged Aura...?

[EriaNight]

It's alrite. I'm not a mean person at all! 

I apologize for treating you like you were irresponsible,
but i really do think this topic should stay open *calms down*
I stand firm on this, now.

And if it doesn't happen, I will still believe it should have been that way. Change the rules, but you can't change my mind.

[waccoon]

Createblog isn't a forum soley devoted to graphic art. It's a site dedicated skinning blogs. Clique was seen to be a competing site, but Jusun approved Clique as noncompeting. Clique is a community for artists, and has NOTHING to do with blogs.
Retrofied has nothing to do with skinning blogs, either.

[*tweeak*]

I think clique being deemed as competing was more out of spite than anything else...

[demolished]

Createblog isn't a forum soley devoted to graphic art. It's a site dedicated skinning blogs. Clique was seen to be a competing site, but Jusun approved Clique as noncompeting. Clique is a community for artists, and has NOTHING to do with blogs.
Retrofied has nothing to do with skinning blogs, either.

Oh okay. Every sites are not competed, we know that. Can you tell me your main point for this topic? I'm confused.

[Retrogressive]

I thought CB allowed you to advertise in your signature. I think CB should be much clearer in their rules rather than changing people's signatures without warning.

Doesn't CB state that we can advertise in signatures?

If we can have a Forum advertise in the Web site section I don't understand why my signature, along with others, as been altered. If you own a forum, it's considered a website that you put your time into.

I think we should focus on CB inforcing a rule that it doesn't have.
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=970

Where is the confusion??

[*Libertie*]

I don't remember where the thread about clique mb is.. But it sorta explained things a little better I think.. Or at least it explains what is meant by "commercial". You're right, it's not exactly a law per se. I thought it was a rule for official members at least to not be affiliated with competing sites, but I don't remember if/where I saw that.. But I believe someone was planning on opening the issue in by-laws anyway.

[Retrogressive]

Just to clearify- I did not make this thread about advertising competing sites. I made it about member sig changes on the bases of "NO ADVERTISING AT CB" even if the site was no where near advertising. Just clearifing.

[*Libertie*]

Nah, I don't necessarily have an opinion on this issue, so I'm not trying to prove or disprove a point. But I did want to mention that the issue will be brought up in by-laws if it hasn't already been done. Er.. Well, technically any committee member may do so if they want, right?

[*mipadi*]

I'm not seeing the big deal about advertising other forums in signatures. First of all, I don't think the "no advertising" rule should apply to signatures. A signature is a personal piece of information and anything should be allowed, with the exceptions of inappropriate material (such as pornography and profanity).

Secondly, even if the "no advertising" rule applies to signatures, I hardly think another forum qualifies as "commercial". One can also argue that even if it does, it is merely "providing information" (the address of the forum).

Thirdly, I don't understand the reason for forbidding "competing" sites. First of all, cB is a great place--great enough that even other forums won't detract from its membership, and just because a person belongs to several similar forums, does not mean they are not active in each community. Secondly, what is "competing"? I could be wrong, but I don't think cB is a commercial venture--while it makes some money from ads, I don't think its primary intention is to serve as primary income for an individual, group of individuals, or corporation (please correct me if this is inaccurate). Therefore, I don't see the problem in allowing other forum administrators to advertise their own forum in their signature.

[Retrogressive]

I think so. This is in by-laws or will they make a new thread?

[*Libertie*]

Hmm. Well, thinking about it.. Technically, this thread is in by-laws so you could consider it up for discussion. The committee members just need something to vote on. *shrug*

[heyyfrankie]

i deleted the signature links to RF because i was told to!!

but alvin (maestro) & mike (mikestah), your new forum was comepeting (IMO) because it had xanga, myspace & website skins. (i think those were it) BUT STILL.

[Retrogressive]

I understand about competing sites. But RF (and others like Dark Dimension) were deleted from my sig.

Someone TOLD you to do something? But... but... you're the great Frankie.

[heyyfrankie]

well, i do know that i'm the great Frankie but there ARE people above me.

[Retrogressive]

Well, that's the only way I'm reffering to you from now on.

And can mods address this subject please?

[*incoherent*]

well, ill try to get the committee together since we havent discussed anything in here in a while and well try to come to decision as soon as you can make a proposal of what needs to be voted on.

but for now, since frankie is of higher power, but was told by someone of even higher power to remove it, theres no point trying to fight the system. just make your proposal and the committee will sort it out.

edit:
then again, if it was to be deemed as a competing site, the mods you have now wouldnt be able to be mods. you should have probably been contacted or something if it was a competing site which i think was ruled out although i heard from a little birdie that someone considered it to be one.

[Retrogressive]

Well could the higher members explain why instead of secretly doing it and not even telling us?

//edit
And why they believe RF to be a competing site and why the removed a Harry Potter forum as well?

[*incoherent*]

alright, so here is what needs to be discussed.

-competing sites. how do we consider them to be competing?
-should forum links be allowed and to what extent?

[Retrogressive]

alright, so here is what needs to be discussed.

-competing sites. how do we consider them to be competing?
-should forum links be allowed and to what extent?

This is for committee to decide.

[*tweeak*]

i deleted the signature links to RF because i was told to!!

but alvin (maestro) & mike (mikestah), your new forum was comepeting (IMO) because it had xanga, myspace & website skins. (i think those were it) BUT STILL.

hold on- head staff could edit signatures?

[Retrogressive]

Hey--

I think that people putting myspace, xanga, livejournal, and deviantart are advertising those sites!

[KissMe2408]

-I was going to write out this whole thing, until I saw Michael's post. And he basically said everything I was going to point out.
- It's hard getting the whole committee to talk about this now, especially around the holidays and all. But this will be addressed. I actually thought that advertisements were allowed in personal sigs until a couple of weeks ago. I really don't see a problem about advertising other sites in your sig.
-Linda Belle and (edit) Molly (sorry for callin you erica, got confused at first lol),
I understand why you guys are getting upset. But thanks for bringing it out in the open. Take deep breaths you guys, it'll sort out. Remember the by-laws aren't even official yet. We're just trying to work everything out and talk about it first.

Now for Michael's post that show my views on this topic as well:
(if you want me to write out my own, then that's fine. Michael just said it so well that I wanted to quote him, and I don't have a lot of time right now to type it out)

I'm not seeing the big deal about advertising other forums in signatures. First of all, I don't think the "no advertising" rule should apply to signatures. A signature is a personal piece of information and anything should be allowed, with the exceptions of inappropriate material (such as pornography and profanity).

Secondly, even if the "no advertising" rule applies to signatures, I hardly think another forum qualifies as "commercial". One can also argue that even if it does, it is merely "providing information" (the address of the forum).

Thirdly, I don't understand the reason for forbidding "competing" sites. First of all, cB is a great place--great enough that even other forums won't detract from its membership, and just because a person belongs to several similar forums, does not mean they are not active in each community. Secondly, what is "competing"? I could be wrong, but I don't think cB is a commercial venture--while it makes some money from ads, I don't think its primary intention is to serve as primary income for an individual, group of individuals, or corporation (please correct me if this is inaccurate). Therefore, I don't see the problem in allowing other forum administrators to advertise their own forum in their signature.

This post has been edited by KissMe2408: Dec 27 2005, 05:09 PM

[EriaNight]

My name is Molly....and ERIAnight is my screenname........but that's okay....I understand

[demolished]

I'm Nuetral !

Hey--

I think that people putting myspace, xanga, livejournal, and deviantart are advertising those sites!

Myspace, Xanga, and Live journal are completely acceptable for certain reasons. It's suppose to be about blogging and graphic situation.... plus, it's consider cB's purpose and service. If cB banned them, cB is totally pointless with no goal. Therefore, cB is useless. That’s why there are certain sites that are not acceptable due to competitions.

Hopefully, the bylaw mod will clear things up about advertising since advertisements had been one of the major problems with members ... for a long time.

Thirdly, I don't understand the reason for forbidding "competing" sites. First of all, cB is a great place--great enough that even other forums won't detract from its membership, and just because a person belongs to several similar forums, does not mean they are not active in each community. Secondly, what is "competing"? I could be wrong, but I don't think cB is a commercial venture--while it makes some money from ads, I don't think its primary intention is to serve as primary income for an individual, group of individuals, or corporation (please correct me if this is inaccurate). Therefore, I don't see the problem in allowing other forum administrators to advertise their own forum in their signature.

I don’t know how long you been around in cB but ... there was many related problems with other forum such as stealing, shit talking, forum adviser being an ass with another forum member, hateful spamming, and ... maybe hacking? Therefore, it's kind of ruining cB's reputation and environments. It can lead to more issues. (influence)

If there was no such thing as competing sites, it's pointless to produce massive friendly forums serving the same goal.

Where is the confusion??

I'm not asking you for his point. Sorry.
I'm asking him .. what's the point of his post.
I think hearing from his opinon is more accurate.

[technicolour]

^ You make CB sound paranoid

[demolished]

I don’t know how long you been around in cB but ... there was many related problems with other forum such as stealing, shit talking, forum adviser being an ass with another forum member, hateful spamming, and ... maybe hacking? Therefore, it's kind of ruining cB's reputation and environments. It can lead to more issues. (influence)

Oh. This part ? Hey, everything did happened.

[technicolour]

Well you still make Cb seem like it's not up to a challenge.

[*Guest*]

personally, i believe that in signatures, which as michael said are personal, there needs to be NO ban on advertising websites

again, as michael said, cb does not make money from its skins. therefore, by people visiting other sites. cb is not losing out. the real heart of cb lies in its community, who will visit the site anyway, regardless of where they get their skins.

let people show off their sites. they are proud of them, and deservedly.

oh, and to whoever had their signatures editted, do what i did the first time christina removed my GenF link: put it right back.

[demolished]

Um .. cB does make money in some way. Did you know.. you can advertise in ad? click on "Advertise on this site "

[technicolour]

Um .. cB does make money in some way.

Through the GOOGLE ADS at the top of the screen.

Not through the layouts.

Guest: thank you!

[*incoherent*]

kristina...the guest is james.

[Heathasm]

i agree with michael as well . . .

all in favor of free advertisement in sigs aye or nay (i guess we'll go ahead and vote on this now and when micron comes around again he can "okay" it if its aye'd, because we dont know all of the technicallities)

[*tweeak*]

Aye

[*mipadi*]

Aye

[*tweeak*]

Pretty sure you're not on the committee

[*incoherent*]

aye

[KissMe2408]

-Aye-

Sorry Molly, I got your name wrong :(
For some time i've really been thinking your name was Erica :(
I think i was confusing you with someone else. My apologies.

[Mulder]

aye

[demolished]

neutral

[Heathasm]

well thats 6 ayes counting mine, so motion passed!

//edit

also remember that the bylaws ARE NOT in effect yet

[demolished]

Let's see if jusun lee will tolerate advertisement .... since i'm assuming he made a rule about advertising.

[Rachel]

I didn't even get to votttte! booo

Anyways, it is really up to Jusun.

[waccoon]

Let's see if jusun lee will tolerate advertisement .... since i'm assuming he made a rule about advertising.

We've been through this with Clique. Non-commercial, non-competing sites were allowed back then, I don't see why they shoulnd't be now.

[demolished]

Sorry. I really dont know. Ask him. He's a god of cB.

Btw, i'm not against advertisement. I really dont mind about advertising.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Goddamn, I can't even go on vacation without people telling me I'm avoiding something...

Maybe mods were "avoiding" the thread because it's the holidays and we're all either not home or spending time with our families. Dearly sorry.

Clique was deemed noncompeting before CB offered website templates as well. Now that CB has website layouts, and Clique does too, we are competing to have people that use our layouts instead of Clique's. When someone offers the same things to a mass of people, they are competing to get the most people.

I'll try to be on more often.

[demolished]

It's not your fault. cB is not forcing you.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Not forcing me to what?
Maybe if people wouldn't accuse mods of avoiding things when the thread's been open for a day and we're all on vacation, I wouldn't be peeved.

I don't like being accused of things wrongly.

[demolished]

Oh. Nevermind.

[*liquidize*]

just dont pm me asking me to join. piece of shit mikestah

[Fabio.]

^ Honey, that was irrelevant.

GOT HERE LATE [darn moving], but this was something I was in a tizzy about [I think my signature was the first edited], and I'm very glad this was addressed.

I agree with all of the pro statements. Not that it matters.

[*tweeak*]

Goddamn, I can't even go on vacation without people telling me I'm avoiding something...

Maybe mods were "avoiding" the thread because it's the holidays and we're all either not home or spending time with our families. Dearly sorry.

Clique was deemed noncompeting before CB offered website templates as well. Now that CB has website layouts, and Clique does too, we are competing to have people that use our layouts instead of Clique's. When someone offers the same things to a mass of people, they are competing to get the most people.

I'll try to be on more often.

If I do recall correctly, dear, I got attacked (not by you, specifically) for "avoiding" a certain thread for less than 24 hours, when I was merely going through my ordinary motions of everyday life, but that's neither here nor there.

Jusun never outlawed advertisements in signatures, so I'm really not sure what the big deal is. None of the forums in question are "competing" at all.

[Retrogressive]

Not forcing me to what?
Maybe if people wouldn't accuse mods of avoiding things when the thread's been open for a day and we're all on vacation, I wouldn't be peeved.

I don't like being accused of things wrongly.

+sigh+

If that was to me, I was not accusing you personally. There were mods on who read the topic and never responded. Don't take it personally. I understand mods are extremely busy.

++

And thank you committee.

[*Guest*]

<333s at nicki.

how did this actually become an issue out of interest? because i had a GenF link in my signature for months, i only took it out (myself, i wasnt asked to) just before i was suspended, and that was never an issue

[*mipadi*]

+sigh+

If that was to me, I was not accusing you personally. There were mods on who read the topic and never responded. Don't take it personally. I understand mods are extremely busy. 

++

And thank you committee.

With all due respect, perhaps the mods thought it wise to interject one intelligent statement that explained the whole issue, rather than getting into a back-and-forth "shouting match" that explained nothing.

[Just_Dream]

Ooh, here's the link (about clique):
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61088

On the side note, I hope no one is taking this personally. If cB is just a forum, then it would be best to think this through calmly. Not targetting this towards a single individual, but just a note, in case of any future arguments that might get out of hand, that's all.

I apologize for the late reply, but Retrogressive, I was the one who deleted your signature. As well as for Fabio.'s (I think? I know I deleted some). I only did so because this rule was inforced a while ago within that thread although back then, we didn't have a by-laws. Now that I've read all the feedback from this, I've come to the conclusion that it's understandable that none of all the websites are "commercial," but perhaps.. Jusun meant a different kind of commercial? I guess back then, because of the whole clash between cB and clique, that this rule was inforced since clique drew out a number of cB members, and since some of the mods from cB, mind all the present mods, were also mods on clique.

Perhaps the unofficial rule was inforced due to the fact that mods and ex-mods of cB were mods on clique, that Jusun made that rule? There was a discussion about it before.. Somewhere.. Hmm...

But now it's understandable because many new forums are more based on broader topics irrelevant to cB in many ways, so this rule could be removed. I do apologize for quickly acting without consent of others. I will take all the blame since it was a mistake due to my part, since I am one of the few that still remember that rule. It was an unofficial rule, so it's good that this is being brought up in by-laws so that we can finally have a set of official laws that will eliminate any loopholes and ambiguities. :]

If Jusun doesn't ge there first, I'll be sure to speak to him about this very soon.

This post has been edited by Just_Dream: Dec 29 2005, 03:05 AM

[demolished]

Thank you for participating. =D About her website, time changes. Createblog now offer website templates.

[*liquidize*]

I WOULD LIKE TO SPAM THE NEW BOARD... ASTIG.NET/FORUMS

JOIN NOW !

[gelionie]

^ umm we're talking about in signatures, not in posts.
So that is irrelevant to this topic.

[*Guest*]

It was an unofficial rule, so it's good that this is being brought up in by-laws so that we can finally have a set of official laws that will eliminate any loopholes and ambiguities.

well said.

unoffcial rules just lead to unfortunate circumstances. heh.

I will take all the blame since it was a mistake due to my part, since I am one of the few that still remember that rule.

just a pet peeve... i do wish mods would stop apologizing for enforcing rules... it is what you're here for, after all... don't apologize, just write it down so people KNOw the rules they are expected to follow.

[waccoon]

well said.

unoffcial rules just lead to unfortunate circumstances. heh.
just a pet peeve... i do wish mods would stop apologizing for enforcing rules... it is what you're here for, after all... don't apologize, just write it down so people KNOw the rules they are expected to follow.

I do apologize for quickly acting without consent of others.

[Retrogressive]

Ooh, here's the link (about clique):
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61088

On the side note, I hope no one is taking this personally. If cB is just a forum, then it would be best to think this through calmly. Not targetting this towards a single individual, but just a note, in case of any future arguments that might get out of hand, that's all.

I apologize for the late reply, but Retrogressive, I was the one who deleted your signature. As well as for Fabio.'s (I think? I know I deleted some). I only did so because this rule was inforced a while ago within that thread although back then, we didn't have a by-laws. Now that I've read all the feedback from this, I've come to the conclusion that it's understandable that none of all the websites are "commercial," but perhaps.. Jusun meant a different kind of commercial? I guess back then, because of the whole clash between cB and clique, that this rule was inforced since clique drew out a number of cB members, and since some of the mods from cB, mind all the present mods, were also mods on clique.

I hope no one takes it personally. CB is a forum, not a big drama hole. I was just trying to point out how serious this was if it continued without being adressed. The fact that it had to do with my own forum was almost irrelevant. (So in other words, I'd be irrational if I took it as personal). Thank you for finally addressing the subject (I know you've been busy).

//edit

It's quite obvious why Jusun has made you admin, you are so level headed and straight forth. I really appreciate your honesty and how you deal with matters at CB.

This post has been edited by Retrogressive: Dec 29 2005, 05:52 PM

[*Guest*]

I WOULD LIKE TO SPAM THE NEW BOARD... ASTIG.NET/FORUMS

JOIN NOW !

The bylaw is not officially inforced yet, STOP SPAMMING and ... dont hang around in here if you're not trying to be reasonable w/ yourself.

[Just_Dream]

I hope no one takes it personally. CB is a forum, not a big drama hole. I was just trying to point out how serious this was if it continued without being adressed. The fact that it had to do with my own forum was almost irrelevant. (So in other words, I'd be irrational if I took it as personal). Thank you for finally addressing the subject (I know you've been busy).

//edit

It's quite obvious why Jusun has made you admin, you are so level headed and straight forth. I really appreciate your honesty and how you deal with matters at CB.

I
I'll talk to Jusun about it tomorrow :]

lol as for the admin thing... It's not as easy as it looks, to be level headed lol. It my fault anyway, since I took this matter in my own hands, without exactly discussing it with everyone else. Assumptions = bad

Back to vacation.. bbl =X

[Paul M. is baaac...]

Yes, i know of a lot of forums which have a "Plug Forum" solely for the purposes of

a) Stop people advertising in the wrong threads
b) Stop people advertising in their signatures
and
c) Anybody who wants to advertise, can advertise.

It's not a bad idea...

[*incoherent*]

^
i believe its already been voted on and waiting on jusuns approval.

[*mona lisa*]

Jusun and the admins will read over it over and approve when the by-laws as a whole are completed.

[*incoherent*]

Jusun and the admins will read over it over and approve when the by-laws as a whole are completed.

i was just talking about pauls post about advertising, not about by-laws.

[*mona lisa*]

i was just talking about pauls post about advertising, not about by-laws.

I don't think Jusun has time to look at advertising alone unless it was something that cannot wait.

As well, I don't see a need to have a Plug Forum. We simply can't let anyone who wishes to advertise. A link that doesn't provide useful information is usually considered advertising. We've had this rule since the beginning so I doubt it.

[*incoherent*]

i thought your signature was free space...free to put whatever you wanted into it. i had a link to a forum in my sig for almost 2 months and it was never removed.