Turkey day????, does anyone else think this is stupid? Options

[saintruthanne]

I was just wondering...does anyone else think its ridiculous to call it 'turkey day'? why can't we just call it Thanksgiving???

your thoughts?

[Joss-eh-lime]

um, i dont see anything wrong with it
most people do eat turkey today.

[Mulder]

well i think the whole idea of thanksgiving is stupid. we're just celebrating how we killed the natives and took their land.

and i dont eat turkey. so there.

[Looow]

I dont eat turkey on Thanksgiving.

But hey, a lot fo people do so I don't see why it's so bad to call it turkey day.

[xTINAA]

I don't think we should call it Turkey Day because to me it diminishes the 'meaning' of Thanksgiving. I think it should just be kept Thanksgiving so it will remind us all to be thankful. Sure we shouldn't have a specific day to be mindful of our blessings but sadly, we need it. Just like we need Valentines day, a day to tell those we love, we love them.

[Joss-eh-lime]

insomniac and hella janky what do you guys eat then?

[Mulder]

there are other things to eat besides turkey.

mashed potatoes, fruit salad, veggies.

*gasp*

[Joss-eh-lime]

well yea, i was just wondering what exactly.

so thanks

[xklipse]

hmm..I prefer calling it Thanksgiving, but what is so ridiculus about calling it turkey day? My little nephew call it that because he get to eat turkey on thanksgiving, I thought it was cute.

[Nicolatofu]

Lorena eats mexican food like a real mexican should! too bad I eat ham..

Agreed with Chrissy. Turkey day loses the setimental value in it's name. We sometimes forget what each holiday really means.

[technicolour]

The day where most people eat turkey. Turkey Day.

Nope, doesn't sound ridiculous to me.

[*mona lisa*]

^But Thanksgiving wasn't made a national holiday just to eat turkey. It was the way to celebrate it before, and I guess tradition just carried on and people to this day still eat turkey. As Chrissy said, the real meaning of Thanksgiving loses its value if it's called Turkey Day.

[Gigi]

I always thought it was ridiculous. Turkey day...argh. I hate how everyone calls it that, now. Mona and Chrissy explain it the best...when you change the name, the meaning gets lost.

[coconutter]

Woah I remember, my sig, it's not turkey day anymore crap I'll change it tommor.w

[WHOngos144]

I hate when people call it Turkey Day..

[sadolakced acid]

i like turkey day. it's cuter. yes, yes.

[Ington]

I eat turkeys on Thanksgiving.

I don't mind when people call it turkey day, because they know its not the actual name. I don't believe when people say turkey day, it takes away from the meaning. When people say thanksgiving, the first thing they think of is turkey, anyway. If you want to give it a meaning, call it Day-the-pilgrims-and-the-native-americans-were-at-peace-and-celebrated-with-a-feast. But that would be too long.

How many of you first think of peace when someone says thanksgiving? Not I. I think of devouring a turkey, whole, filled with stuffing.

Sue me.

[vash1530]

i dont think its that big of a deal.

[PiGo]

I don't really make a big deal about it, but shouldn't we think about what we're seriously thankful about on Thanksgiving, as opposed to what we get to eat? I mean, isn't that similar to calling Christmas "gift day"?

[DaTru KataLYST]

Turkey Day is easier to pronounce than Thanksgiving.

Call me lazy. but I go by a 43 folders set on life (I hack daily life tasks)

Do you really think calling Thanksgiving Turkey Day will diminish its meaning of giving thanks? In order for people to call it Turkey Day, the people must first recognize that Thanksgiving exists.

[Gigi]

Turkey Day is easier to pronounce than Thanksgiving.

Call me lazy. but I go by a 43 folders set on life (I hack daily life tasks)

Do you really think calling Thanksgiving Turkey Day will diminish its meaning of giving thanks? In order for people to call it Turkey Day, the people must first recognize that Thanksgiving exists.

Yeah, but what about the future generation?

Eventually, Thanksgiving will be called Turkey Day so often that the original name will be striked out, and it'll just be called Turkey Day. Eventually the meaning would be lost, obviously we all know that's it Thanksgiving now, but our children might not.

Wow, that makes me sound like I care a lot about Thanksgiving. Honestly, though, I don't. Not that I don't think the meaning behind it has good intentions, but to set aside ONE day for being thankful is bullshit to me. Be thankful everyday; setting aside one day only makes people ungrateful for all the other ones.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Turkey Day!! Easier to pronounce!

Canada celebrates Turkey Day, Gigi?

And what if what if what if is no argument.

Round 2, Canadia! =P

[nptsprtz15]

turkey day is just easier 2 pronounce...bt i call it thanksgiving cuz calling it turkey day takes away from the whole point of the day...

[Mulder]

turkey day is just easier 2 pronounce...bt i call it thanksgiving cuz calling it turkey day takes away from the whole point of the day...

and what is the point of thanksgiving? to celebrate how we killed the indians and took their land?

i dont see the point of thanksgiving at all. by calling it turkey day its just taking away any remaining significance.

[saintruthanne]

no we celebrate it to GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR DELIVERING THE PILGRIMS INTO THIS LAND SO THEY COULD HAVE CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S etc. (thats us) AND THAT THEY HAD FOOD TO SURVIVE WHICH THEY ATE WITH THE INDIANS. sounds like those 'Indians' which are actually Native Americans were really mad at us huh?

if you hate the origin of our country so much why don't you move to France or something.

[DaTru KataLYST]

no we celebrate it to GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR DELIVERING THE PILGRIMS INTO THIS LAND SO THEY COULD HAVE CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S etc. (thats us) AND THAT THEY HAD FOOD TO SURVIVE WHICH THEY ATE WITH THE INDIANS. sounds like those 'Indians' which are actually Native Americans were really mad at us huh?

if you hate the origin of our country so much why don't you move to France or something.

wow you need to instantly die. No offense.

1. I'm 99% sure you're not a descendent of a pilgrim.

2. If the pilgrims died out, America would still be colonized.

3. If I told you the actual details to the real feast Native Americans and Pilgrims had, you'd cry.

4. Now go learn some real arguments that don't have to do with God.

[Tribal J_Rome]

wow you need to instantly die. No offense.

1. I'm 99% sure you're not a descendent of a pilgrim.

2. If the pilgrims died out, America would still be colonized.

3. If I told you the actual details to the real feast Native Americans and Pilgrims had, you'd cry.

4. Now go learn some real arguments that don't have to do with God.

LOL pwned, never in my life have i heard that thanksgiving was affiliated with God, and it's ridiculous to think so.

[*StanleyThePanda*]

I always thought it was ridiculous. Turkey day...argh. I hate how everyone calls it that, now. Mona and Chrissy explain it the best...when you change the name, the meaning gets lost.

I concur

[sadolakced acid]

thanksgiving, is a 'christianted' variation of a harvest celebration, found in many pagan religions that chirstianity denounces.


as far as the meaning, let me remind you waht the first thanksgiving was.

the pilgrims were starving and eating each other. they stole food from the indians. the indians decided to help them. they were all happy. 20 years later the pilgrims attacked the indians at a truce.

i don't care if that meaning gets lost.


thanksgiving, is to me, a time to spend with family.

it's a prelude to christmas.

[Gigi]

^ Yeah, well that's not the meaning that the name "Thanksgiving" refers to, anyway. If it was originally called "Kill-the-Indians-after-they-kindly-gave-us-food Day" then I wouldn't care at all. But it's "Thanksgiving", it's a day to be thankful for what has been given to you.

wow you need to instantly die. No offense.

1. I'm 99% sure you're not a descendent of a pilgrim.

2. If the pilgrims died out, America would still be colonized.

3. If I told you the actual details to the real feast Native Americans and Pilgrims had, you'd cry.

4. Now go learn some real arguments that don't have to do with God.

LOL. I love you, Jeff, you're funny. BTW I don't see any significance in putting an extra "i" in Canada. =p And we celebrate Thanksgiving in October.

[DaTru KataLYST]

I knew it! Canadia IS the upside down world of USA!!


October....psh..*mumblemumble*

[saintruthanne]

wow you need to instantly die. No offense.

1. I'm 99% sure you're not a descendent of a pilgrim.

2. If the pilgrims died out, America would still be colonized.

3. If I told you the actual details to the real feast Native Americans and Pilgrims had, you'd cry.

4. Now go learn some real arguments that don't have to do with God.

1. if you're not a descendent from a pilgrim, who're you descended from? (oh btw...the dictionary says a pilgrim is someone who travels to foreign lands meaning everyone who wasn't Native American)

2. You're right....American would still be colonized if the pilgrims died out. But that would mean we'd be about 2 or 300 years behind in technology.

3. Enlighten me. Humor me. Try me. I'm only crying cuz I'm so disappointed in your education and lack thereof. No offense, right?

4. I didn't mention God. Happy? probly not. But then, you never will be.

and 5. just type Pilgrims or Mayflower in Google and you will find millions of descendents descended from the surprise surprise! pilgrims. yay!

[Mulder]

1. if you're not a descendent from a pilgrim, who're you descended from? (oh btw...the dictionary says a pilgrim is someone who travels to foreign lands meaning everyone who wasn't Native American)

2. You're right....American would still be colonized if the pilgrims died out. But that would mean we'd be about 2 or 300 years behind in technology.

3. Enlighten me. Humor me. Try me. I'm only crying cuz I'm so disappointed in your education and lack thereof. No offense, right?

4. I didn't mention God. Happy? probly not. But then, you never will be.

and 5. just type Pilgrims or Mayflower in Google and you will find millions of descendents descended from the surprise surprise! pilgrims. yay!

wow.

let me absorb that for a minute.



wow. just wow.

please god stop posting in topics you obviously have no clue about.

1. the pilgrims which were talking about are the puritans who came over from england and settled at plymouth rock. the pilgrim definition you're using is really a religious one.

2. erm... no. the puritans weren't even that interested in technology. they were a religious people.

3. im not even gonna respond to that. look in a mirror.

4. maybe you didnt directly mention god, but you definitely spoke of thanksgiving purely in a religious context.

and why is it that some christians believe that non-christians are doomed to a life of unhappiness?

[saintruthanne]

wow.

let me absorb that for a minute.



wow. just wow.

please god stop posting in topics you obviously have no clue about.

1. the pilgrims which were talking about are the puritans who came over from england and settled at plymouth rock. the pilgrim definition you're using is really a religious one.

2. erm... no. the puritans weren't even that interested in technology. they were a religious people.

3. im not even gonna respond to that. look in a mirror.

4. maybe you didnt directly mention god, but you definitely spoke of thanksgiving purely in a religious context.

and why is it that some christians believe that non-christians are doomed to a life of unhappiness?

so now I can't talk about RELIGION? hmmmmm.....okay. God.....religion. I don't know about this...correct me if I'm wrong....but God and religion are not the same thing.

you don't even answer my questions. which are legitimate, I might add.

so you think the pilgrims didn't think of new stuff? you think they all just sat around not looking for innovative new ideas??? "hey...why don't we try changing the gun around. you know, make it easier to handle and deal with and whatnot." "NAHH...i like it the way it is. It will probably NEVER change. WE obviously can't think of anything better!"

by saying that you were never going to be happy, I meant to say that you would never be happy with what I wrote, becuz I'm never going to convince you of anything. alas, I see that I wrote that wrong as well. I just can't do anything right, can I? silly me. I don't even know where the term Thanksgiving came from!!! who made that stupid term up anyway?? we obviously have NOTHING to be thankful for!

oh and btw...i don't think ALL nonChristians aren't happy for all of their lives. just a lot of them.

[Mulder]

there are plenty of other debates going on involving religion.

this isnt one of them.


the puritans did not want to invent. do you know anyting about the puritans? besides the fact that im now reading the Scarlet Letter, which is set in New England in the 17th century, I am currently taking AP US History. i know what i'm talking about. the puritans we're very religious, and they were afraid of turning towards satan, and thus they strayed from anything that was too..artificial. hence, a lack of technological development.

and what questions did you ask?

[DaTru KataLYST]

HOLY SHIT

"Ignorance is bliss"

I think it's safe to say saintruthanne is too far away to be saved.

Therefore I will now totally ignore all posts made by her as my IQ undoubtly drops immediately after reading.


But good God, woman, you are my age. Please for the love of your true God, either pick up a textbook and read or join the Real World so you can entertain me on the TV.

[AngryBaby]

saintruthanne,

1. i dont know what to say considering like 5 people "owned" you and you were too dumb to realize it.

2. you say:

THANKSGIVING IS TO GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR DELIVERING THE PILGRIMS INTO THIS LAND SO THEY COULD HAVE CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S etc. (thats us) AND THAT THEY HAD FOOD TO SURVIVE WHICH THEY ATE WITH THE INDIANS.

nice history lesson, it reminds me of "Its thanks giving Charlie Brown!" first off, who's "us"? DaTru KataLyst (jeff right?) is asian, so how the hell are you gonna say he's a decendant of a pilgrim? and that can go for any other minority.

3.God delivered the pilgrims into this land? yes and god said "and kill all dem' red skin folk!" nobody's saying you cant talk about god. but considering not everyone believes in God and that brilliant theory your mom and charlie brown taught you, you should know the facts. pilgrims didnt come down from a ray in the clouds down onto america.

4. maybe you should watch this
http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/media/c...p=cartoon1021MD


oh, and what i think of the "turkey day" thing....its more of a nickname, chill out.
it'll always be thought of as Thanksgiving

[jEllyBeaNs]

thanksgiving, is a 'christianted' variation of a harvest celebration, found in many pagan religions that chirstianity denounces.
as far as the meaning, let me remind you waht the first thanksgiving was.

the pilgrims were starving and eating each other.  they stole food from the indians.  the indians decided to help them.  they were all happy.  20 years later the pilgrims attacked the indians at a truce. 

i don't care if that meaning gets lost.
thanksgiving, is to me, a time to spend with family.

it's a prelude to christmas.

wut?? they started to eat eachother...thats my first heariNg about that.
but i dont mind if ppl call it turkey day. i dont see wut the big deal is. like wut evan said, its just a nickname. its kinda like when ppl say Xmas for short for christmas...its not a big deal to me, it still means the same thing.

[Mulder]

wut?? they started to eat eachother...

errr...no.

[jEllyBeaNs]

errr...no.

but thats wut sadolakced acid said. im soo confused....maybe i should go read about the history of Thanksgiving.

[Ington]

no we celebrate it to GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR DELIVERING THE PILGRIMS INTO THIS LAND SO THEY COULD HAVE CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S CHILDREN'S etc. (thats us) AND THAT THEY HAD FOOD TO SURVIVE WHICH THEY ATE WITH THE INDIANS. sounds like those 'Indians' which are actually Native Americans were really mad at us huh?

if you hate the origin of our country so much why don't you move to France or something.

Actually, my relatives came from Russia and Israel. They weren't pilgrims. I'm pretty sure none of ours were.

Sure, pilgrims mean immigrants, but in your context, they're the ones who founded the 13 colonies.

[sadolakced acid]

first winter or the pilgrims, if i'm not mistaken.

might be the first winter of jamestown, in which case i would be wrong...

[Mulder]

thanksgiving is them giving thanks after surviving the horrible winter at plymouth...

i think. *goes off to read history book*

[lakerfever2476]

Wasn't Thanksgiving when the pilgrims took land from the Native Americans? Something like that.

[sheridan_whitesi...]

everyone please read this: Thanksgiving [wikipedia.org]
There. Now you all know the history and myths surrounding our annual festival of gluttony.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

insomniac and hella janky what do you guys eat then?

Rice.

[technicolour]

thanksgiving is them giving thanks after surviving the horrible winter at plymouth...

i think. *goes off to read history book*

OMG. Thanksgiving..I swear..It's only like..a page in our history book. A PAGE! What the heck...

  first winter or the pilgrims, if i'm not mistaken.

might be the first winter of jamestown, in which case i would be wrong...

But..but..I thought..Pilgrims = Jamestown...and vice versa..


from sadolakced acid: (close your tag!)

This post has been edited by sadolakced acid: Dec 10 2005, 12:18 AM

[Mulder]

OMG. Thanksgiving..I swear..It's only like..a page in our history book. A PAGE! What the heck...

  first winter or the pilgrims, if i'm not mistaken.

might be the first winter of jamestown, in which case i would be wrong...

But..but..I thought..Pilgrims = Jamestown...and vice versa..

your quotes suck. as in they dont work.

and from a mod..

for shame. *wags finger*


no one really cares about thanksgiving. its just a conspiracy by the card making industry.

from sadolakced acid: (the tag wasn't closed which means yours didn't work either.. :irony:)

This post has been edited by sadolakced acid: Dec 10 2005, 12:18 AM

[sadolakced acid]

But..but..I thought..Pilgrims = Jamestown...and vice versa..

pilgrims= mas. bay colony, seperatists.


jamestown= chesapeake bay colony, capitalists.

[*mona lisa*]

no one really cares about thanksgiving.

Uh huh..... Says who? You? You many not care about it at all, but please give respect to others that do.

[Mulder]

Uh huh..... Says who? You? You many not care about it at all, but please give respect to others that do.

alright, i apologize.

i fully support someone who cares about thanksgiving.


but a rather large percentage of the country cares about thanksgiving in a way that its meaning gets lost.

[sadolakced acid]

^ or rather, people give thanks at thanksgiving, just not to jesus like the christians did when they christianized thanksgiving for thier own purposes.

[SkaironFrenzy]

i think its the liberal way of saying "thanksgiving"... taking "God" out of everything. well... thats up to a new debate..i'm not going to get into that subject.

[sadolakced acid]

or rather, its the way to take the paganism out of thanksgiving.

[emazing]

Well, sort of.
But it's just for the fun of it, I mean, it's not really offensive.