Corruption and Createblog Options

[let me post]

At about 3:30 PST, the post in the lounge titled Official Confessions Vol. 2 had about 15 posts of Nicki [tweeak] and James [raccoons > you] posting one after each other about stuff irrelevant to confessions.

At about 3:50 PST, every post by tweeak and raccoons > you was gone. Futhermore, users Steven [let me post] and Sandy [takingbacksandy], posted posts politely asking Nicki and James to stop spamming. In 5 minutes, those were edited aswell.

I posted,

tweeak and racoons > you, please carry out your conversations through PM or an instant messenger. arguing with eachother over the scent of cigarette smoke has nothing at all to do with confessions.

Nothing wrong with that, right? Apparently tweeak thought there was something wrong, not hesistating to delete that post.

With posts being deleted in such a short amount of time, I am certain that only a few number of CBers saw this, but luckly enough, these 7 members did.

Steven [let me post], Sandy [takingbacksandy], Christine [chaneun], Radhika [not_your_average], Sally [salcha], Nga [nugget], Julia [jooleeah]

We also have reason to believe that tweeak deleted our posts. Right when the post got deleted, the members viewing the page were

3 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)3 Members: let me post, tweeak, takingbacksandy

Want more proof? OK!

Lets move on to the thread "Anonymous Shoutouts". Sandy [takingbacksandy] psoted a message to tweeak, which tweeak deleted with the quickness of Kristi Yamaguchi ice skating.

See the post?


Where did it go?



I know you guys have more to add. Discuss! Demod! Ding!

ONE NOTE - I DID NOT MAKE THE SIG OF ME AND THE QUOTE I SAID. CHRISTINE DID.

[*chaneun*]

yay, first post
anyway, the cult is taking over
yea, i saw sandys post that was in big font. :D
ITS AGAINST THE RULES TO EDIT POSTS IF YOUR A MOD FOR NO GOOD REASON.

demoddation?

[*takingbacksandy*]

i have a question.
i am sure i wasn't the only person who saw the conversation between james and nicki in the confession thread.
is a mod allowed to delete their spam and proceed to edit what i wrote. i had quoted somebody telling her to stop. then she editted it out.

then she deleted my post what i said in anonymous thread

is this legal? are mods allowed to do that? isn't this abusing powers.

[*salcha*]

It is. I agree with Sandy.
mods aren't supposed to use their powers to delete posts they don't want. it's not fair.

11 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 1 Anonymous Users)
9 Members: salcha, takingbacksandy, helllla jankyyyy, chaneun, Cake., let me post, Nugget, not_your_average, oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo

[*chaneun*]

10 Members: chaneun, Cake., let me post, salcha, takingbacksandy, jooleeah, Nugget, not_your_average, helllla jankyyyy, oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo

i love how everyones reading this :D

[let me post]

What's funny is that tweeak is always telling me to stop spamming - if I could delete my own posts, I would have 0 spam posts.

[Nugget]

Yes, I remember seeing those spams in that official confessions thread. I do remember seeing Sandy's big font post as well. That is, indeed, against the rules.

[oXMuhNirvanaXo]

Thats bull crap. They shouldent have that kinda power any more and they shoulded be banned from this sight for sure.

<3 Shelby

[*takingbacksandy*]

It is. I agree with Sandy.
mods aren't supposed to use their powers to delete posts they don't want. it's not fair.

yeah. because if other members (not mods) cannot delete their own spam and if they could, they would. so it is illegal for a mod to do so?

mods, please answer my question. is this allowed? is it abuse or not.

[*not_your_average*]

I doubt that this is cB legal. Nicki and James's conversations were brought up in a thread in the By-Laws section. I'd like to discuss this as well.

[*salcha*]

Plus this isn't the FIRST time anyone has spammed. The fact that our posts only got deleted in the official confessions thread...weird?

And even if it ISN'T a law, it would seem like common sense to anyone.

[oXMuhNirvanaXo]

Well what will we do to get them not to have that kinda power?

There must be something we can do to have them stopped in there tracks before it becomes way out of hand. ( If it has not already gotten to that point ).

<3 Shelby

[Gigi]

Hold on, before we make any assumptions, let's listen to the point of view of the other side.

Nicki? Anyone? Care to explain?

[*nightmare4taki*]

Only someone who is a


would abuse their powers like that.

[*tweeak*]

Or maybe people harboring immature grudges are jumping to vast conclusions as everyone else hops on the bandwagon?

[*salcha*]

We have proof, we're not jumping to conclusions

[let me post]

Or maybe people harboring immature grudges are jumping to vast conclusions as everyone else hops on the bandwagon?

My apologies for jumping to vast conclusions. I guess a screenshot and quotes and witnseses don't cut it anymore. I'm sure you have a great explanation. Once again, my deepest apologies. God I feel so horrible now.

[*takingbacksandy*]

everybody saw you... even if they're not replying at this thread. i'm sure everybody saw you and james conversation in the confessions thread.
even julia, and shes your friend.

not jumping to conclusions, we have proof. if screen shots aren't enough then what is?

[Heathasm]

demotion?
i dont think so . . . this is the only constructive criticism you guys have given her(even if some of the posts are harsh), and im sure she'll never do that again. everyone screws up sometime

[Teesa]

Okay, we're going to get to the bottom of this. Anyone want to take responsibility for the deleted posts?

Don't jump to conclusions that Nicki deleted them.

[*tweeak*]

But the stuff in anonymous shoutouts was a set up. I deleted that post out of impulse. You're only making a big deal out of it because you resent me for re-suspending Steven.

I thought that it was agreed somewhere that posts containing spam could be deleted so we could all move on? Well, following that, I wasn't that far out of line. I only edited Steven and Sandy's posts because they didn't make sense with mine gone.

Grow up learn to think for yourself instead of being the many shades of Steven

[let me post]

I thought that it was agreed somewhere that posts containing spam could be deleted so we could all move on? Well, following that, I wasn't that far out of line. I only edited Steven and Sandy's posts because they didn't make sense with mine gone.

Grow up learn to think for yourself instead of being the many shades of Steven

No, thats not true. You edited my posts first before deleting your posts of spam. Then, when I re-typed my post in official confessions and included the fact that a mod was messing with my posts, you deleted your posts AND edited mine again. I call ducktales!



and please don't member bash, oh wait just edit out the member bashing and i'll pretend like you never called us assholes.

[*takingbacksandy*]

demotion?
i dont think so . . . this is the only constructive criticism you guys have given her(even if some of the posts are harsh), and im sure she'll never do that again. everyone screws up sometime

she has editted my post 3 times today
twice in the confessions thread
and deleted my post in anonymous.

a warning isn't going to stop her from abusing her powers. haven't people warned her countlessly about spamming? now shes editting what members are saying about her and james carrying conversations?




and nothing was a set up. just like you banning steven because what he said about you & james spamming. its not because of him spamming (because i haven't seen it lately), its because you just don't like him and you're trying to get him re-banned again.

i'm making a big deal because i always see you doing the same thing over and over again. spamming too, carrying conversations in thread and THEN telling people not to spam its not because i resent you. i dont care if steven is banned.

[*not_your_average*]

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[*tweeak*]

Good to know you're not a two faced bitch either, Gigi

I don't need this bullshit.

I haven't denied anything. I admitted to all of it.

The framing bit referred to the crap in anonymous shoutouts

whatever. I'm unregistering.

[let me post]

whatever. I'm unregistering.

steven - 1
nicki - disqualified

rip to a great mod

[Teesa]

^Oh, please don't Steven.

[*salcha*]

^ rofl. me too.

low, steven

[let me post]

haha. and steven, i saw that edit.

^ rofl. me too.

low, steven

i dont know what you two are talking about.


oh fine, i told tweeak to suck it easy.. but i edited because i felt like it was necesary to pay my respects for such a friendly, laid back, fair, impartial, non member bashing, non spamming, mod who always sets a good example. my apologies, are you into astrology?

[*tweeak*]

And it is exactly things like that that make me not feel guilty in the least.

I would. I'm aware it was against the rules.

But I've had a shitty day and didn't want to put up with their crap.

Seriously, get a life, all of you.

It's complete mod mentality here- we can't think for ourselves so we're all going to gather behind one person and then hold a collective grudge and do everything you collectively can to make your scapegoat seem as horrible as pissible by magnifying and overreacting to every little misstep.

I'm not perfect, I never claimed to be.

But at least I'm not scum like you, who have to live on a chat room in order to find someone to hide behind and give you an identity.

Whether you like it or not, I have my own opinions and can think for myself.

And yes, I can make my own mistakes.

But I also seem to recall that Steven thought he was well qualified to be a mod during his little spam infestation that I seem to recall got him banned not too long ago.

So, oops, doesn't mean that your mere presense is breaking a whole lot more rules than I have?

Isn't it coincidental that it's been perfectly peaceful here before he and his posse returned?

I don't think so.

You may think you've won this one, but winning a battle doesn't mean you've won the war.

I made a mistake.

But you made more.

At least I learn from mine.

How about you?


(I saw the edits as well. You have no right to be so cocky.)

[let me post]

But at least I'm not scum like you, who have to live on a chat room in order to find someone to hide behind and give you an identity.

im not the one with 11,650 posts. holler

[*not_your_average*]

Lmao.
But really, guys, we should quit it. Seriously.

[sadolakced acid]

isn't there something against circumventing an IP ban?

tell you what, how about i become a mod?

i bet you'll love that.

[*salcha*]

Geez. This is the internet.

[*not_your_average*]

9 Members: takingbacksandy, not_your_average, Heathasm, let me post, robb0, salcha, EmmalieV, nightmare4taki, Fabio.

Damnn, man, buncha people watching the drama unfold. >_>

[sadolakced acid]

well i'm here watching the idiocity grow.

[*tweeak*]

im not the one with 11,650 posts. holler

I'm not the one with 16 accounts

Not to mention that I've been here longer than you and have not spent every waking moment in the chatrooms making what I consider to be real friends.

GODDAMN,

STOP WITH THE "posse" BS already.

ok? thanks.

Then stop being the same person. It's okay to disagree with His Majesty every so often

[Heathasm]

GODDAMN,

STOP WITH THE "posse" BS already.

ok? thanks.

but you guys are like one big posse
the first ten or so posts . . . stevens first one was enough but it had to turn into this huge dramatic thing

noone is being very mature here. it looks like everyone is equally pathetic when i look at peoples sigs and posts, what does that have to do with anything really?

*ghandi* noones really a bad person here, why all the hate? that can make a person feel pretty shitty

[let me post]

I'm not the one with 16 accounts

Not to mention that I've been here longer than you and have not spent every waking moment in the chatrooms making what I consider to be real friends.
Then stop being the same person. It's okay to disagree with His Majesty every so often

if you added up all my posts in all my accounts i would still not have 1/3 of your posts. and your tryna call me a loser? shit hahaha

it's not that i had no one to sit with, but when i wanted to be alone- or more often, when the 2 people i had to sit with ran off to student council things- i was pretty stuck. my table was very easily overrun with unfriendly black jocks, and i was unwelcome alone. we have no senior lunchroom- it's all the same- and there's definitely no intimidation problem- we and freshmen mutually ignre each other, except the band ones who sit with me.

i wnet 3 weeks without finding my other friends, though. still no idea who' s in the other corner

awww. someone get me some





and i havent been in chat for over 2 months - today is my first day back

[Gigi]

i said that stuff before i heard any explanation. that was my first reaction before i heard anything from you, nicki.

[*mzkandi*]

*sings* why cant we all just get along

But seriously...drop it alrighty. Sheesh.

[sadolakced acid]

if steven posts something stupid, and edits it out before anyone sees, is it still stupid?

[*takingbacksandy*]

must you be so bitter, dear. everybody has a shitty day, that is no excuse.. taking it out on us. yeah i think steven did deserved (being banned) from his previous spam fest. but you are a mod. you're suppose to set a good example, don't spam. if you are spamming, others might think its okay since a mod is spamming

why are you being so mean.
we don't have lives? you don't much of a life either.. if we're hiding behind chat, you're hiding behind a forum.

by the way you made a whole big deal about him coming back, so you are part of why it hasn't been so peaceful. if you just ignored him, and warned him privately if he was doing something wrong then it would have been fine.

i'm not even in stevens posse, pshhh. i'm just tired of seeing you abuse your powers

k edit: mzkandi posted it before me. i will stop as soon as she stops replying to this thread. its over. why don't we all stop.

This post has been edited by takingbacksandy: Nov 10 2005, 08:09 PM

[*tweeak*]

i dont even talk to steven.

whatever, i really have to go.
i think cb was better off blocked from my computer. you see, it's drama like this that makes doing homework worthwhile.

Then why do you think I was even talking to you?


I'm done. It won't matter what else I have to say anyway

[sadolakced acid]

ok, let me get this straight...

you guys are mad at nicki because she deleted some posts, and edited some, instead of warning you?

you guys are strange.

[let me post]

ok, let me get this straight...

you guys are mad at nicki because she deleted some posts, and edited some, instead of warning you?

you guys are strange.

^ why would she warn us if she and james were the onse spamming and me and sandy were the ones teling her to please quit spmming? lol..

and i dont want this thread to be closed until an admin or roxanne posts in here and hands out warnings/punishment and an statement. just what i thikn

[*not_your_average*]

Okay, from here on, Steven, Robbi, Sandy, anyone else causing drama (including me) will stop posting in here. Let it die. Please?

[*salcha*]

Maybe someone should just close it.

[Fabio.]

agreed. This is ridiculous.

[*chaneun*]

fabio wasnt even involved in this.

[*incoherent*]

fabio wasnt even involved in this.

neither was anybody else that posted in this except steven and nicki.

[*mzkandi*]

Drop IT

[*takingbacksandy*]

ok i think its unfair if she gets off without any punishment
there should be a law created that mods aren't allow to do this
yes she admitted, still no apology i hear though from her mistake.

please don't close this yet. other members if you have no good input about the subject, then stop replying to the thread so its less spam.

i'm sorry if this thread is becoming a waste/spam-fest.

[*incoherent*]

ok i think its unfair if she gets off without any punishment
there should be a law created that mods aren't allow to do this
yes she admitted, still no apology i hear though from her mistake.

please don't close this yet. other members if you have no good input about the subject, then stop replying to the thread so its less spam.

i'm sorry if this thread is becoming a waste/spam-fest.

sandy, were talking about this in the bylaws. go here. http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=109013

[Fabio.]

neither was anybody else that posted in this except steven and nicki.

THANK you. And I was one of the first people reading this and have pretty strong opinions on some of the people involved.

I think that Nicki overstepped her bounds, but I think maybe Steven is overreacting. She apoligized. I don't think this is worth demodding or unregistering.

Happy?

[let me post]

neither was anybody else that posted in this except steven and nicki.

dont forget sandy.

ok i think its unfair if she gets off without any punishment
there should be a law created that mods aren't allow to do this
yes she admitted, still no apology i hear though from her mistake.

she called us assholes too and i agree with this not being closed

[*incoherent*]

dont forget sandy. 

i guess thats true. i dont know. i think this is stupid and dont really want to be a part of it.

I think that Nicki overstepped her bounds, but I think maybe Steven is overreacting. She apoligized. I don't think this is worth demodding or unregistering.

she's not unregistering anymore.

[sadolakced acid]

^ why would she warn us if she and james were the onse spamming and me and sandy were the ones teling her to please quit spmming? lol..

and i dont want this thread to be closed until an admin or roxanne posts in here and hands out warnings/punishment and an statement. just what i thikn

oh right. blatant memeber bashing, spam, etc? that's not grounds for a warning?

[*mona lisa*]

I was just about to close this before it got worse. Half the responses in here are spam, so unless you have something meaningful/helpful to contribute, don't even bother posting. If you do, you're getting a warning level increase without a verbal warning.

I have to sort everything out and talk to both sides before I can do anything else, so give me some time.

[*takingbacksandy*]

THANK you. And I was one of the first people reading this and have pretty strong opinions on some of the people involved.

I think that Nicki overstepped her bounds, but I think maybe Steven is overreacting. She apoligized. I don't think this is worth demodding or unregistering.

Happy?

i don't think hes overreacting. if anybodys overreacting it should be me because she went and deleted my post.. for what reason? just on impulse isn't good enough for me.

she never apologized. read what she said. she called us assholes.

and its not because she deletes or edits post because shes abusing her powers and she knows it.

edit: sorry i didn't see you post before i posted. and btw if you still want to talk about this, come to chat. or PM me

[sadolakced acid]

Proof. Bitch. 

i'm just looking at that, and i see blantant member bashing? which, if i'm not mistaken, is grounds for a warning? and that simply having it deleted/ edited out would be quite lenient?

[*tweeak*]

Are you kiddng? I apologized multiple times. Amazing how your brilliant knowledge of everything I post is so selective.

[*takingbacksandy*]

i'm just looking at that, and i see blantant member bashing?  which, if i'm not mistaken, is grounds for a warning?  and that simply having it deleted/ edited out would be quite lenient?

how do you know if it was to her. it is anonymous shout-out here. it could be to anybody.

[Teesa]

^really? it could have been to just anyone?

[*mona lisa*]

x2^ I suggest you just say it if you were referring to Nicki. Of course, it could be to anybody, but at this time, it's obvious that it was most likely towards Nicki. Don't start any more drama.

[sadolakced acid]

i'm not saying it was towards nicki.

i'm saying it was member bashing, and apprently nicki edited or deleted the post, apparently without dishing out any warnings.

[*tweeak*]

You know perfectly damn well it was to me. As was this:

___ first off, i'm wondering how you got the position in the first place. it doesn't seem like you fit the requirements except that you have no life and on 24/7. yeah so what do you really do besides act like you have a tampon stuck up your ass all the time. yeah, keep thinking who really runs this motherf**ker.. keep thinking you're all big and bad but notice this is only the internet. fifty bucks says you're a loser in real life. the forum would be better w/o you.

That was completely uncalled for. At that point in time, I'd done absolutely nothing to you. Not only member bashing, but fully unwarrented at that.

[*takingbacksandy*]

You know perfectly damn well it was to me. As was this:
That was completely uncalled for. At that point in time, I'd done absolutely nothing to you. Not only member bashing, but fully unwarrented at that.

perhaps. since hate thread is gone i posted it in anonymously, yeah okay what if it was to you. what is the point of anonymous thread again??? and anytime a member posts they must say something positive?

don't try to turn this around me. this has nothing to do with what we're talking about. k mods, go a head and warn me because i member bashed anonymously but what are you doing about the situation right now? the mistakes that go unpunished.

you know perfectly well if i made a mistake, i would get punished for it. like spamming or something. if you think i deserve to get warned for "member bashing" so be it. do it.


edit: BY THE WAY, she did call us assholes when she admitted it in confessions

[o0olaalaa]

thats totally not fair. they shouldnt be like deleted stuff just cuz they dun like it personally.

[heyyfrankie]

how delightful!!



nicki - you and james need to stop with the posting back & fourth shizz. it really does annoy me and i have told you and him to quit it on multiple occasions. so stop. Now, i don't know the WHOLE TRUE story about you (or whoever) deleting the posts but who ever it was needs to not do it again. That is border-line MODpower abuse. okay? okay.

steven - stop making like 294949432843842 different accounts. even if you are warned for THE STUPIDEST thing in the world, you need to be the bigger person and just deal with your punishment; whether it be suspension or ban-ment.

this next comment is directed toward nicki & steven
STOP NIPPING AT EACH OTHERS' THROATS!! it's obvious that y'all don't like each other but does all of createBlog have to deal with it? seriously.

This post has been edited by Frankie: Nov 10 2005, 09:04 PM

[piney]

ermmm. wow. i never knew there could be drama online.

[Eryi]

thats totally not fair. they shouldnt be like deleted stuff just cuz they dun like it personally.

You don't know everything that happened, neither did I, so I'll shut up now. :X

[*incoherent*]

ermmm. wow. i never knew there could be drama online.

surprise!

[let me post]

You don't know everything that happened, neither did I, so I'll shut up now. :X

i agree. i think if you dont know what happened then you shouldn't post. no need for spam and uneducated posts clouding up the topic.

frankie - i appreciate the unbiased post. honestly i do - no sarcasm. i think that calling nicki's actions "borderling mod abuse" is being too kind, but if you can justify that, then sure. does all of cb have to deal with this? well i asked roxanne, and she told me to make a post in here. just listening to the cb advisor :]

[Gigi]

how delightful!!
nicki - you and james need to stop with the posting back & fourth shizz. it really does annoy me and i have told you and him to quit it on multiple occasions. so stop. Now, i don't know the WHOLE TRUE story about you (or whoever) deleting the posts but who ever it was needs to not do it again. That is border-line MODpower abuse. okay? okay.

steven - stop making like 294949432843842 different accounts. even if you are warned for THE STUPIDEST thing in the world, you need to be the bigger person and just deal with your punishment; whether it be suspension or ban-ment.

this next comment is directed toward nicki & steven
STOP NIPPING AT EACH OTHERS' THROATS!! it's obvious that y'all don't like each other but does all of createBlog have to deal with it? seriously.

Frankie, I love you.

[heyyfrankie]

but if you can justify that, then sure.

well, i'm sure that there are certain circumstances where a deletion (is that a word? ) is needed so in that case...the moderator's actions (deleting the post) would be justified.

example: like when that one person made a awful post in that one girl's post about her dead baby...or something like that.

[let me post]

well, i'm sure that there are certain circumstances where a deletion (is that a word? ) is needed so in that case...the moderator's actions (deleting the post) would be justified.

example: like when that one person made a awful post in that one girl's post about her dead baby...or something like that.

but she deleted her own posts where she and james where spamming back and forth. then she deleted me and sandys posts where we told her politely to stop spamming. maybe you should reread the first post, i think that explained things pretty well.

[Fabio.]

I second that... listen to Frankie. There's a reason he's such a respected member of staff...

[*tweeak*]

Mona, could you close this now please? You've made your decision, so there's no need to drag on this crap.

[heyyfrankie]

^ (to steven)

=O

sorry, i'm stupid! *is slow*

well, that is bad . . .

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oh...just saw nicki's post.

TOPIC CLOSED

This post has been edited by Frankie: Nov 10 2005, 09:20 PM

[*mona lisa*]

Frankie, I'm opening this.
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I'm getting sick and tired of this. If the purpose of this thread was actually meant to be feedback, this is not how it should have been carried out. Thus, this is what will happen:

Verbal warnings
chaneun- spamming
salcha- spamming
nightmare4taki- spamming
robb0- spamming
not_your_average- spamming
incoherent- spamming
notelracailuj- spamming

Warnings
tweeak- member bashing, disobeying rules set out for moderators
takingbacksandy- member bashing
let me post- making multiple accounts, member bashing

You want justifications, PM me and I will give you proof.

Nicki will be demodded for a week. That will give her time to relax because I don't think she deserves all this drama.
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And finally, topic closed.

[Just_Dream]

Gosh. Finally when I hear about this, I'm a second too late haha. I really wanted to post about this. Yes I've seen the evidence.

Anyway, Frankie -- I agree, thanks for stepping in.

You know, moderators ARE supposed to set an example for other members, but I admit that we all make mistakes. It's true that at times we should be more stricter when enforcing rules or that sometimes we may seem to strict. We aren't perfect. Nicki did apologize, but I agree that many things said here by many members were out of line. As for editting posts, that shouldn't have happened, unless there is a good reason, such as profanity or member bashing.

Mona - Good idea. Nicki, maybe you do need time off. We all have problems to deal with, but that shouldn't be an excuse for your behavior. But I'm glad that you tried to handle it rationally in the end.

Other members--even though it's "anonymous," I know you all KNOW that profanity is prohibited--or at least, SHOULD KNOW.

From now on and in the future, let's learn from this: Rules and regulations apply to EVERYONE. It should've always been, and it's sad to say, these rules have been broken. Consequences always follow. Case closed.