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post Nov 1 2005, 12:00 PM
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Well, this isn't kosher:

Mark Russinovich, of SysInternals.com, has discovered a so-called "rootkit" which is installed by Sony's new digital rights management-protected music compact disks (CDs). A rootkit is a common name for malicious software that is used by hackers or criminals to gain access to a computer system and be able to clandestinely run other malicious code. Rootkits frequently contain hidden and hard to remove files and are designed to be difficult for the user to remove.

Russinovich classifies Son'y malware as a rootkit because it introduce several serious security holes, one of which is intended to be exploited to hide files and prevent the user from removing them. In particular, all executable files which begin with '$sys$' are hidden when the software is installed. He points out that these security holes could be exploited by hackers, or other malware producers besides Sony.

Russinovich explains that naively removing the files will result in a crippling of the operating system on the user's computer. He provides an explination of the difficult step required to remove Sony's malware.

Playing the same CDs under Linux or on a non-computer based CD player remains safe. As removing Sony's malware may violate the DMCA, ripping the CDs under Linux may be the best legal option for those who wish to listen to them under Windows.

The software is automatically installed when a Sony CD is played on a computer, and is not mentioned in their EULA. The rootkit appears to have been commercially developed by First 4 Internet and lisenced to Sony.


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post Nov 1 2005, 06:09 PM
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It's a commercial rootkit too :(

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http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-112005.html

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post Nov 1 2005, 06:19 PM
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This really bothers me. I'd like to say that I don't understand how companies like Sony can justify breaking the law and stamping on the rights of consumers, but then I remember that they are a corporation who undoubtedly feels they are above the law.

Now's the time when consumers need to wake up and realize what companies are doing to them, and actually do something about it.
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 03:53 PM
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I saw this somewhere too. Engadget or hackaday. I think this is stupid. Why would Sony do that? The funny thing was, the guy who found out about this was the music the guy was listening.
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 11:38 AM
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I guess a lawsuit has encouraged Sony to stop producing such CD's, but Sony still argues it has a right to protect its music. There are several quotes from these articles that bother me a bit:

"Sony said it had a right to stop people illegally copying music, but added that the halt was precautionary." [1]

I think Sony has some right to protect their music, but their rights end where mine begin; not only do I have certain fair use rights (which I won't even get into at this point, since those have all but disappeared a long time ago), but Sony doesn't have the right to break my machine in order to have their music protected. (I mention this only theoretically, of course; since I don't run Windows on my laptop or various desktops, Sony's CD's don't technically do anything to my computers--even play.)

"Mathew Gilliat-Smith, the CEO of First 4 Internet, the company that created the software, claims it is 'benign content.' Meanwhile, in an NPR interview, a spokesman for Sony said, 'users don't know what a rootkit is, and therefore, don't care.'"[2]

Firstly, the software clearly isn't "benign," as it can allow other viruses to piggy back on top of it; secondly, I find it arrogant and ignorant that Sony says it doesn't matter because people don't know what a rootkit is. Whether they know what it is or not is trivial--it can still do damage. (In fact, not knowing what it is probably leaves one open for more damage.) Most people also don't know what ebola is, but it will kill them just the same.

Actions like this make me think it's about time we, as consumers, stop purchasing DRM-protected music. If someone like Sony is going to trample on consumers' rights, I see nothing wrong with hitting back by pirating their music.
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 07:05 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10005667/

Haven't they stopped it?
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 08:53 PM
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I guess, if you consider "temporarily suspend[ing]" to be stopping. Still, the fact is that if they did it once, they're like to try it again sometime.
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 09:51 PM
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and plus, those CDs are still out there.

any form of copy protection pisses me off. i have a program (exact audio copy) that override virtually all copy protection by simply tricking the CD drive into thinking it's a purely audio CD drive, and therefore any CD that will play in a regular CD player (e.g. all of them) can be ripped (except for the last track sometimes... they sometimes leave that open ended which screws things up)

yea.

so everytime i encounter a copy protected CD i purposely rip it and distribute it.

boycott sony music. kazaa has less viruses.
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 09:55 PM
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forget kazaa, redlightglow.com + elbo.ws = all my music needs
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 10:03 PM
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i'm piggy backing my sister's napster account, and that works.

but kazaa is the more recognizable P2P network and is infamous about its viruses.
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 10:20 PM
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oh, yeah, i knew that, i just misinterpreted your point. neeeevermind.
 
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post Nov 12 2005, 11:37 PM
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I used to fully support the legal purchase of music, but now that I've noticed how much the music corporations infringe on consumers' rights, I think it's open season to copy as much music as one wants.
 
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post Nov 13 2005, 12:57 PM
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^ se!

and michael joins the fray.

i have... i think about 200 songs i got legally... the rest, from friends, library, etc.


and i have like... 1400 songs.

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post Nov 13 2005, 02:41 PM
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I have about 2 gbs of music I got off my cds...but about a third of those I got from James, so they're not exactly legal. A few I paid for the downloads...the rest I got off mp3 blogs. So I'd say about 200 of my 1200 are legal. I mean, I would attempt to pay for it, but it's just ridiculous at this point. They over charge and then skrew up your computer. Yeah, great.
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 05:36 PM
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http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/

Sony apologizes
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 07:03 PM
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Bit too late for that, I think.
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 16 2005, 7:03 PM)
Bit too late for that, I think.
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I don't like how they're not really addressing the issue. They don't mention the word rootkit, and they seem to try to blame it on the third party vendor.
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 08:01 PM
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That, and they dragged their feet. Their original tool for removing the rootkit only worked in IE, and didn't remove everything; I think it may even have installed more stuff. Sony hasn't really done a lot to prevent damage from their product, and they've hidden a lot from the consumer in the process.
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 08:14 PM
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Boycott the PS3!
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 09:02 PM
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boycott sony records for one financial quarter.

that'd get thier attention.

the thing is: i think they still think it was ok to do that.

which isn't very promising for anti-DRM. although it *should discourage other companies from using DRM...

hopefully
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 16 2005, 9:02 PM)
boycott sony records for one financial quarter.

that'd get thier attention.

the thing is:  i think they still think it was ok to do that. 

which isn't very promising for anti-DRM.  although it *should discourage other companies from using DRM...

hopefully
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Boycotting their games would hurt them the most, since it's their most profitable division.
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 11:28 PM
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but it has nothing to do with thier rootkit.

if thier games had spyware, i'd be all for it.

but it's their music division, so that's where to hit them.

think the harm that one financial quater where they made no profit, absolutley none.

that would sent a mighty fine message to other record companies to not use DRM, as well as sony.

if you boycott the games, it will have a lesser impact on pure music companies, because if you boycotted the music, it shows you can put a company out of buisness.

and that is what they're afraid of.
 
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post Nov 16 2005, 11:40 PM
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Sony would just chalk the losses up to "increased file sharing and piracy", not a boycott.
 
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post Nov 17 2005, 01:23 AM
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which is why such a boycott would have to be publicized.

however, if it's seen that sony's losses are much greater than any other companies, and a journalist ;coincidentally writes of the boycott... then, it will have impact.

which means it needs to be a nationwide effort.

but surely we can go 3 months without buying a sony CD.
 
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post Nov 17 2005, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 16 2005, 11:28 PM)
but it has nothing to do with thier rootkit.

if thier games had spyware, i'd be all for it.

but it's their music division, so that's where to hit them.

think the harm that one financial quater where they made no profit, absolutley none. 

that would sent a mighty fine message to other record companies to not use DRM, as well as sony.

if you boycott the games, it will have a lesser impact on pure music companies, because if you boycotted the music, it shows you can put a company out of buisness.

and that is what they're afraid of.
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Regardless, Sony is ultimately the offending company. They are the target, you want to aim for the part that hurts the most. If someone punches you, you don't aim for their hand, you aim for the soft spots.

You can still boycott Sony BMG as well as Sony Computer Entertainment.
 
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We took time out of history class to rant about Sony because my teacher was angry that he'd bought a $600 camera and then was required to buy a $30 cord from them for something for it, since they have that kind of monopolistic thing going on with it.
 
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post Nov 20 2005, 09:15 PM
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http://today.reuters.com/investing/finance...-33_L18167933:1

Sony is giving away mp3's from the rootkitted cds.
 
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post Nov 20 2005, 09:24 PM
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i think it would be better to boycott other music companies that use DRM right now. would work better than boycotting sony, they'd take it that thier releasing of MP3s wasn't a good idea.
 
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post Nov 21 2005, 02:47 AM
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I dont think the Sony execs are getting enough air in their brain. =/


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post Nov 21 2005, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 13 2005, 12:57 PM)
^  se!

and michael joins the fray.

i have...  i think about 200 songs i got legally...  the rest, from friends, library, etc.
and i have like...  1400 songs.

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That's nothing. If the RIAA catches me I'm done. I wouldn't be able to pay the fee if I tried.
 
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QUOTE(xnofearx @ Nov 21 2005, 10:12 AM)
That's nothing. If the RIAA catches me I'm done. I wouldn't be able to pay the fee if I tried.
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Why do people brag about what they pirate?
 
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post Nov 21 2005, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 21 2005, 2:42 PM)
Why do people brag about what they pirate?
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Kryo pretty much just pulled a printf(mipadis_thoughts_exactly), as they say.
 
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As who says?
 
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post Nov 21 2005, 04:44 PM
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Other C programmers, I guess.
 
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post Nov 22 2005, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 21 2005, 2:42 PM)
Why do people brag about what they pirate?
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I don't know...

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Because I like music?

Good point I think I should stop.
 
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post Nov 22 2005, 04:36 PM
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just to point out how stupid the RIAA is.

notice how it's the book industry doens't blame people lending books to thier friends, nor libraries, whereas the RIAA is all about that.
 
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Barnes and Noble is perfectly fine with me sitting and reading their books and magazines for hours on end with little intention of buying anything besides several caffienated beverages and maybe a pretzel if I stay long enough. Still, my Starbucks fixation does the authors no good, and it's harder to make money off a book than a cd, because at least there's concerts and merchandise, etc. What do you get out of a book tour?
 
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^ If the book is good buy it I guess....
 
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post Nov 22 2005, 11:29 PM
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i think the only reason barnes and nobles can afford to stay open is two things:

starbucks and gifts.
 
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^ Some people (like me) actually buy books from Barnes and Nobles. Much more comfortable reading at home.
 
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^ i find it much more comfortable to read at B and N. i do buy stuff tho...
 
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^ Oh, I like lying on my bed while reading, but that's just me....
 
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http://www.businessweek.com/technology/con...1129_938966.htm

Looks like Sony new weeks ahead of time that there was a security flaw with their DRM software rootkit, and did nothing about it--even though they claimed to have acted as fast as they could once they found out about the problems.
 

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