should american animes be considered anime?, or cartoons? |
 Oct 30 2005, 06:40 PM
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 Ill get around to doing that....  Group: Member Posts: 518 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 275,913  |
I mean things like avatar and teen titans and maybe even naruto because that show is mentaly retarded
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Oct 30 2005, 06:43 PM
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 Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
Naruto is an anime from Japan. So is Avatar.
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Oct 30 2005, 08:10 PM
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Ill get around to doing that.... Group: Member Posts: 518 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 275,913 |
QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Oct 30 2005, 5:43 PM) Naruto is an anime from Japan. So is Avatar.  I seriosly doubt that |
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Oct 30 2005, 10:06 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
QUOTE(drilotedahl @ Oct 30 2005, 8:10 PM) I seriosly doubt that IT IS TRUE. Dude I saw the Japanese versions of those animes way before they came out in Toonami and Nickelodeon. |
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Oct 30 2005, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(drilotedahl @ Oct 30 2005, 6:10 PM) I seriosly doubt that Naruto is from Japan. CN just f**ked it up the ass royally. ...and the fillers are getting annoying now. CURRY OF LIFE OMGHADZ - Solipsist |
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Oct 30 2005, 10:14 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
^see the proof? I wouldn't lie to anyone about anime.
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Oct 31 2005, 12:55 AM
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 some reason i feel alone...guess cus my true self is never shown Group: Member Posts: 303 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 246,804 |
yeah they should have a network or something that has japanese versions even if its old and with subtitles (is there really one? with anime all the time in japenese)
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Oct 31 2005, 12:51 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,665 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 127,076 |
NO!
American anime is totally different from the good ol' anime. Anime shows that were brought from Japan and were dubbed to be put here are still anime. Teen Titans is americanized anime. I don't even think is it anime. 
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Oct 31 2005, 03:07 PM
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 creepy heather Group: Official Member Posts: 4,208 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,580 |
QUOTE(Blue-Chan @ Oct 31 2005, 12:51 PM) NO! American anime is totally different from the good ol' anime. Anime shows that were brought from Japan and were dubbed to be put here are still anime. Teen Titans is americanized anime. I don't even think is it anime. i like teen titans ~_~ but its not anime! im trying to understand why the eff they put naruto on toonami and not adult swim T_T |
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Oct 31 2005, 03:32 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
^I know right? Naruto has like effing violence and almost nudity (hints at the sexy jutsu)
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| *kryogenix* |
Oct 31 2005, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Solipsist @ Oct 30 2005, 10:09 PM) Naruto is from Japan. CN just f**ked it up the ass royally. ...and the fillers are getting annoying now. CURRY OF LIFE OMGHADZ - Solipsist Don't blame Cartoon Network. Blame the licensers. ShoPro licensed Naruto. They're the ones who screwed it up. Funimation screws up Dragonball. 4Kids screws up One Piece. And while I'm ranting, I'd like to point out that Anime was developed from American cartoons. After WWII, Japan and the US traded, they imported American comics, created Manga which was based from American comics, then created Anime from Manga. |
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Oct 31 2005, 04:54 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 93 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 198,739 |
american animes? aren't they just cartoons, cos i thought anime stands for 'japanese animation'? i don't think teen titans is anime, i just think it has some anime style in it...
also, does anime mean cartoons in french? |
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Oct 31 2005, 05:00 PM
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 Queen of Random Information Group: Member Posts: 825 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 157,057 |
QUOTE(Heathasm @ Oct 31 2005, 3:07 PM) im trying to understand why the eff they put naruto on toonami and not adult swim T_T Exactly what I've been wondering. |
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Nov 1 2005, 09:42 PM
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 Alisha Group: Member Posts: 2,341 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,880 |
ya american "anime" shouldn't be called anime
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Nov 1 2005, 09:44 PM
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 My name's Katt. Nice to meet you! Group: Member Posts: 3,826 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 93,674 |
It shouldn't be considerede anime because it's not anime. Anime means animation in Japanese, which is basically Japanese animation. American animation is not Japanese animation. Therefore, it is not anime.
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Nov 2 2005, 05:37 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 4,591 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 77,305 |
QUOTE(drilotedahl @ Oct 30 2005, 8:10 PM) I seriosly doubt that See what happens when you watch too much dubbed anime?  Naruto is one of my all time favorites!!  Naruto's nice. I WISH TEEN TITANS WAS JAPANESE, isn't it? Then why the Japanese theme song? 
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Nov 2 2005, 08:52 PM
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 What up, dawg? Group: Member Posts: 235 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 19,480 |
Anime= Japanese animation
NOT Anime= anything resembling Japanese animation Rin-chan |
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Nov 2 2005, 09:06 PM
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 *scribble scribble* Group: Member Posts: 1,314 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 119,610 |
when i watched the stupid dubbed version of naruto, i nearly cried. im not kidding.
anime is anime. not wannabe anime american animation. |
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Nov 5 2005, 12:28 AM
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 AXE smells good... Group: Member Posts: 263 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 131,002 |
of course not...try comparing Totally spies with Betty boop
Cartoons have changed over the years.. Cartoons from the past were much better!(in my opinion) i luv betty boop by the way ^-^But now animators of today try to "copy" off the japanese anime, instead of developing their own style THAT TICKS ME OFF!  Popeye was cool to, i LOVE POPEYE! 
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Nov 5 2005, 12:32 AM
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 PHIL ˝ Group: Member Posts: 2,663 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,982 |
I'd rather call american anime, anime inspried because theres no such thing as american anime.
-Phil- |
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Nov 5 2005, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(SillyCourtney @ Oct 31 2005, 5:00 PM) Exactly what I've been wondering. Because they want more kids to be able to watch it in order to make it marketable. Be prepared for crappy Naruto toys. |
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Nov 5 2005, 08:19 PM
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AXE smells good... Group: Member Posts: 263 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 131,002 |
^ haha! naruto's face would probably look all deformed, and made out of cheap plstic XD hohoohooooo........
yeh, and i thought Avatar was made from china @__@ I could of swore i saw chinese characters in the ending credits, and i was like "what in the name of jiggly jello?!?"  well i didn't really say that, i felt like saying that and well, you get the point. 
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Nov 5 2005, 09:07 PM
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 M.a. x. Group: Member Posts: 1,913 Joined: Jun 2005 Member No: 148,641 |
it should if it shares the same charactistics (miss-spelled) as the anime in japan, but it should be called us-anime or something in that sort, because its not really orginal
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Nov 5 2005, 09:09 PM
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 Lurker. Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,161 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,851 |
Anime is Japanese animation. In other words, Cartoons from Japan.
your so-called "American Anime" is just American-ized anime. So, American anime isn't anime at all. |
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Nov 6 2005, 07:06 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 280 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 104,125 |
Naruto is awesome and it is from Japan. And Anime is Japanese Animation, so if it was made in America, it's not Anime.
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Nov 6 2005, 07:10 PM
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 omnomnom Group: Member Posts: 1,776 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 180,688 |
I think it should be called cartoons. I mean, there is no such thing as "american anime"
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Nov 6 2005, 09:49 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
^true that...WERD
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Nov 6 2005, 10:04 PM
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some reason i feel alone...guess cus my true self is never shown Group: Member Posts: 303 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 246,804 |
yeah it jus is messed up on tv unless u buy a dvd or something like that
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Nov 8 2005, 03:51 PM
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Why don't we just call it American Anime? I mean... not Japanese anime... it's American with Japanese inspiration... so... American anime...
Now was that so hard? |
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Nov 9 2005, 12:26 AM
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 durian Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 |
Hey, I just call the originals (with japanese voicing and the like) Japanime, while Americanized anime (with English voices -- OH THE HORROR) is just called anime. I think that's what question is referring to? Anyways, Teen Titans--wait, wasn't that created in America, but they just put Japanese music as the song? Bleh IDK. Naruto--I have yet to see it haha. I haven't seen the dubbed ones yet. Yay for subtitles in Japanime!
But anyway, yes American anime should be considered anime, if it IS from Japan. I mean, they only difference is probably the censoring of things, maybe cutting out certain parts, and the voices. The drawings are still the same. Well okay, excluding One Piece (WTH, water guns?!  )Manga is 10 x more awesome. But then again, there's licensed manga, where it is translated and licensed in America. I miss online scanlations. 
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Nov 9 2005, 12:31 AM
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 Wow, i dont know whats going on... Group: Member Posts: 1,439 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,977 |
QUOTE(andromeda_90 @ Oct 30 2005, 10:06 PM) IT IS TRUE. Dude I saw the Japanese versions of those animes way before they came out in Toonami and Nickelodeon. Are you f**king dumb? Of course Naruto is from Japan. Go look it up. Your on the internet. |
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Nov 11 2005, 01:01 AM
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 Anime Freak Group: Member Posts: 46 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 213,064 |
NARUTO IS FROM JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T MOCK IT!!!! isn't anime, japanese cartoons? not american cartoons
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Nov 16 2005, 08:25 PM
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Why do people have to be so elitist?
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Nov 16 2005, 08:33 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Nov 9 2005, 12:31 AM) Are you f**king dumb? Of course Naruto is from Japan. Go look it up. Your on the internet. um... I was just proving my point. How am I dumb? |
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Nov 22 2005, 12:58 PM
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 Cockadoodledoo Mother Fcuka!!! Group: Member Posts: 1,438 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 296,088 |
avatar is decent
ithink it should be considered anime |
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Dec 28 2005, 12:31 AM
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 Infinite's End Group: Member Posts: 180 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 193,597 |
I like shows like Avatar and Code Lyoko but I dont consider them anime
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Dec 28 2005, 01:38 AM
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Cockadoodledoo Mother Fcuka!!! Group: Member Posts: 1,438 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 296,088 |
i HATE code lyoko. their foreheads are GINORMONGOUS!!
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Dec 28 2005, 06:10 PM
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Infinite's End Group: Member Posts: 180 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 193,597 |
QUOTE(vash1530 @ Dec 28 2005, 2:38 AM) i HATE code lyoko. their foreheads are GINORMONGOUS!! ahaha, aww, I think they're cute^^ i just like the atmosphere the show creates |
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Dec 28 2005, 06:20 PM
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 You'll find me in your dreams. Group: Official Member Posts: 8,536 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 114,010 |
[ http://m-w.com/dictionary/anime ]
Anime is a style of animation. So, if it's styled like anime, it is anime. &that's why you find the code Lyoko DVD's in the anime section, at least here.
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Dec 28 2005, 07:54 PM
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Infinite's End Group: Member Posts: 180 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 193,597 |
QUOTE(fishcake-y @ Dec 28 2005, 7:20 PM) [ http://m-w.com/dictionary/anime ] Anime is a style of animation. So, if it's styled like anime, it is anime. &that's why you find the code Lyoko DVD's in the anime section, at least here.meh, i suppose, but thats like a tomato being a fruit 
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Dec 28 2005, 08:03 PM
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 aznZephyr Group: Member Posts: 28 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 105,655 |
The thing about American made Animation and Japanese Animation is that one episode of an american animation show is usually a short story that has no plot substance and is cheaply animated. Although some, but very few, are not bad(plot and/or animation), a majority are just anoying crap that they put on the screen to cause ADD for little children(Spongebob is a great example). On the contrary, Japanese Animation is usually(of course, not always) usually is has a good story behind the great animation(mostly great, and cheaply done...very asian that way XD).
That is why I chose that Americans Animation should be called cartoons, since they are, majority, comical short stories. |
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Jan 1 2006, 09:50 PM
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PHIL ˝ Group: Member Posts: 2,663 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 6,982 |
QUOTE(HybridCountdown5 @ Dec 28 2005, 12:31 AM) I like shows like Avatar and Code Lyoko but I dont consider them anime Code Lyoko is French :D -Phil- |
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Jan 1 2006, 11:10 PM
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 Senior Member Group: Posts: 8,274 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,001 |
Anime already means Japan cartoon. There is no such thing as American anime because you're saying it's American Japan cartoon. It's WRONG.
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Jan 2 2006, 07:11 PM
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 What becomes of snow? Group: Member Posts: 50 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 192,337 |
QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Sep 5 2005, 2:24 PM) Thats like saying egg rolls are called different things if made in different countries.
Theyre both eggrolls, just different styles. If an american company makes kimonos, they dont call them bathrobes instead. Theyre still freaking kimonos. |
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Jan 2 2006, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 479 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 223,199 |
Oh gosh, American anime sucks so badly it burns the eyes! Besides the fact it's a discrace to all real anime...(Yeah, I'm a mucho anime fan ^_^) So...yeah I like to call it cartoons...
I know I say this all the time, but I'm a total Ayashi no Ceres fan! QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Jan 2 2006, 12:10 AM) Anime already means Japan cartoon. There is no such thing as American anime because you're saying it's American Japan cartoon. It's WRONG. Totally agree. |
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Jan 8 2006, 11:03 AM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
QUOTE(vash1530 @ Nov 22 2005, 12:58 PM) avatar is decent ithink it should be considered anime oh god people AVATAR ORIGINATED FROM JAPAN! just because it's in nickelodeon doesn't make it american |
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Jan 9 2006, 04:54 PM
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 the crip killa. Group: Member Posts: 291 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,628 |
LOL? How can you not tell Naruto is japanese?! American anime is more rounded out and the colors blend in better with less contrast. Not "real" anime to me.
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Jan 9 2006, 11:13 PM
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Don't worry guys, size doesn't matter...to lesbians Group: Member Posts: 2,444 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 85,066 |
QUOTE(cLinT_wEStw0oD @ Jan 9 2006, 4:54 PM) LOL? How can you not tell Naruto is japanese?! American anime is more rounded out and the colors blend in better with less contrast. Not "real" anime to me. I didnt really get if u were supporting the fact that Naruto is truly Japanese but FOR THOSE WHO DOUBT IT Naruto is 100% japanese originated! |
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Jan 10 2006, 02:01 PM
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 Quincy Group: Member Posts: 872 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,613 |
Ok yes, Anime is short for "animation" from the french. And yes one of the main characteristics of anime is its japanese origin. (Please god dont say Japanimation)
BUT, the most notable, and the main characteristic of which to distinguish anime is its animation style. With more realistic movements and emotions, it has the ability to tap into a more mature genre and produce shows and movies which delve into romance, drama, and even sex. This is what seperates anime from other forms of drawn entertainment. Those pointy eyes, unbelievable hair, and classic anime sweat drops and other moments are what make anime what it is, not that it was made in a certain country. Which is why there is a such thing as American Anime. They mimick the animation style of their Japanese counterparts and create their own storylines. Thus giving it that american touch. So, in conclusion, yes there is American Anime, we're all using the phrase now, and its what will be used to describe american shows with an anime style. Just because a Golden Delicious apple is yellow doesnt mean its not an apple. And just so you all know, Avatar the Last Airbender is an American produced show, and is written and created by Nickelodeon, but is animated in Korea. |
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