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[*mona lisa*]

(If you're not mentioned, please add yourself // by: Spiritual Winged Aura)

By-Law Mods:

Members: incoherent, insomniac, Spiritual Winged Aura, Rachel is love, and statues/shadows
Staff Members: Heathasm, disco infiltrator, KissMe2408, mipadi, and mzkandi

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For better organization, by-laws that have been agreed upon will be posted in here. Please refrain from making comments/spamming. Thanks.

(This is just a preliminary list. Formal writing can be done by the committee.)

Moderator ship requirements

• 2 months minimum join time before applying for a staff position.
• No minimum post count requirement will be required for moderator ship.
• No endorsements will be required .
• Must be an official member/official designer in order to apply for staff .
• Must have 7 ppd before applying for a People staff position.
• Must have 5 ppd unless exceptionally qualified before applying for Design staff position.

Warnings/Suspension

• Members will be warned/verbally warned for a minimum of two weeks, unless stated by the moderator issuing the warning.
• Verbal warnings will be stated in threads and by means of p/m.
• All warnings will be recorded in a thread backstage.
• 2 warnings (one verbal, one raised) should be given before the possibility of suspension may be carried out.
• Two suspensions must be carried out before a possible IP ban may be carried out.

Member Group Requirements

• Official Members will keep a 5 ppd.
• People/Head Staff & Admin must have 7 ppd.
• Design Staff must keep a 5 ppd unless they are exceptionally qualified.
• 200 posts now required in order to become an official member.

Admin/Head Staff

• 3 administrations shall be maintained.
• 4 head staff moderators shall be maintained.

Moderator Hiring Process

• Moderators nominate people they want for any staff position.
• There is no minimum of nominations we must have, but the maximum for each separate category is 10.
• Once all the nominations are said and done, polls are made for each category with the nominations.
• The community votes on those previously made nominations on who they think is best.
• Heads and Administrations use both the community and mod input to make their final decision.
• New moderators are hired.

Banning

Moderators have the power to:
• ban IP banned user's account.
• ban returned IP banned user's new account.
• ban returned IP banned user's new IP address.

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This post has been edited by incoherent: Apr 27 2006, 04:31 PM

[*incoherent*]

when shall all proposals be ended and the bylaws take effect?

it seems to be slowing down...so maybe were finished, but we need to establish when everything will be done.

1. when all discussion is ended
2. when the formal writing of the bylaws should be done by
3. when bylaws take effect

[*Guest*]

im still willing to do the formal writing, if you want me too

[*incoherent*]

i guess if you want to. i dont know anyone else that has sparked interest in it.

[Mulder]

should we leave it all up to one person?

maybe different members of the committee could write different parts.

im not volunteering though.

[*Guest*]

i was really wondering if any mods would make difficulties about it, but thanks, spencer

= )

oh, and i tried to AIM you but you are away

oh and insomniac, i only volunteeed because i have experience writing in that style

i don thave any problems doing it all

and it doesnt involve any actual input or changing the laws, just cpopying them up in formal, basically, so i dont personally see the need to spread it out.

but if someone else wants to help, its all good

[*incoherent*]

well, ill find out if anyone else is interested.

and im on aim now.

[demolished]

i was really wondering if any mods would make difficulties about it, but thanks, spencer

= )

oh, and i tried to AIM you but you are away

oh and insomniac, i only volunteeed because i have experience writing in that style

i don thave any problems doing it all

and it doesnt involve any actual input or changing the laws, just cpopying them up in formal, basically, so i dont personally see the need to spread it out.

but if someone else wants to help, its all good

Thanks for the offer but we dont need one right now. It seem to be organized for now.

[*mona lisa*]

Thanks for the offer    but we dont need one right now. It seem to be organized for now.

What do you mean? The Guest is James, who originally offered to write out the formal By-Laws...

[demolished]

He was offering his skills to produce a better format, right ? what's wrong with the format right now?


Btw, are you part of the bylaw member ? If so, i'll include your name in that post.

[*Azarel*]

If need be, I'd be willing to collaborate with James on formalizing the by-laws, although, like he mentioned, it may not be necessary.

[sadolakced acid]

err... i'm not actually a by-law mod, i only hang out here...

and nicki is still from staff, methinks?

[*incoherent*]

i edited the list

nicki is still on the committee as staff member and i believe kiera is on staff.

[*Guest*]

[/james]

fine. i'll start adding the james tags again. im back in like 5 days anyway, so its all good

oh, ok. if we decide its necessary (and given what is writen up there, it doesnt particularly seem it, anna and i can draw up the formal version between us)

[/james]

[*Guest*]

oh, and wasnt sammi one of the mod members?

because nicki is no longer a mod, so she has a member spot. so that means hat there are only 4 mods. so the other one is sammi. right? or am i losing my mind?

[*incoherent*]

^
i think i got it right this time. correct me if im wrong.

[sadolakced acid]

correct list:

incoherent
insomniac
rachel is love
spiritual winged aura
tweeak

kissme2408
mipadi
mzkandi


those are the people with mod powers in by-laws.

[*tweeak*]

No, I'm still on the committee as a mod because I have more experience in that area nad can relate to their view points better. Of course, a lack of backstage access is a rather large hinderance to this, but nevertheless, that was chosen.

[*mona lisa*]

You know what, let me use my admin abilities to find out quickly who exactly is part of this committee.

[*tweeak*]

If you just look at the mod list, it has the members as mods only for this, and staffers with 21 forums rae on too.

[*mona lisa*]

I can't find it anymore. -_-

Edit\\
Nevermind. The current list is right.

[*incoherent*]

yeah, i checked and it was right...

i guess im just good.

haha j/k.

[demolished]

Thanks everyone for correcting the list ! I was confused too.

[Rachel]

Umm, I could have sworn that we kept Nicki as a mod on the committee?

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=112823

There.


http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t=105051&st=100

And there.

[*mona lisa*]

I thought so too, but then we'd have 6 staff mods...

[Rachel]

I thought that we were going to keep Nicki as mod...which would take Michael down to regular member? IDK...maybe we didn't need the regular member after all?

[*mipadi*]

I thought that we were going to keep Nicki as mod...which would take Michael down to regular member? IDK...maybe we didn't need the regular member after all?

I joined as a regular member, so... Hm. I thought Nicki was keeping the mod's position, too.

[Rachel]

To clairfy, I meant that we didn't need to hire another regular member (Insomniac)

[Mulder]

oh, nice.

[Rachel]

Well both Nicki and Michael were on before you dear. It is nothing personal, just that we had decided that Nicki stayed at a mod and that would mean that Michael shouldn't be at mod-status in the committee.

[Mulder]

hm.........


i could have sworn it all worked out to 10 members.

edit//
it does.

[*incoherent*]

rachel-it works because james isnt on the committee anymore...meaning that if nicki stays as mod and michael stays as a regular member, leaving james' spot open.

[Rachel]

Oh yeah. Whoops.

[*Guest*]

but.. what is the point of michael and nicki remaining on the same lists as they were originally appointed too? it seems logical to me that they would switch.

[*tweeak*]

correct list:

incoherent
insomniac
rachel is love
spiritual winged aura
tweeak

kissme2408
mipadi
mzkandi
those are the people with mod powers in by-laws.

because look

Michael counts as a mod, and I count as a mod too, so then there's 4 of each

[*Guest*]

but then who was the other person who left the committee?

because that is only 8

10 - james = 9

9 - ????? = 8

and isnt sammi on the committee? i swear she has been voting

[Mulder]

sammis on the committee...

[*Guest*]

^^

right. thats what i thought.

so nicki and michael must have swapped positions, to make it fit. which is what it says in the thread. o.k

now i understand.

and nicki, check your email

[demolished]

Omg. I'm confused. There is suppose to be 5 on each member and staff member of bylaw mod ... could i be wrong ?

[Rachel]

This is the real list I think:
Members: incoherent, insomniac, Spiritual Winged Aura, Rachel is love, and mipadi
Staff Members: Heathasm, disco infiltrator, KissMe2408, tweeak, and mzkandi

THAT IS WHAT WE AGREED ON I BELIEVE

[sadolakced acid]

ahh, musthave not counted sammi cus she's headstaff...

[demolished]

Hm, i think someone might want to pm them to find out the truth. No bylaw mods should ignore this thread.

[*tweeak*]

Rachel's list is right

and James, you haven't sent me an email, unless I opened it and forgot to reply...
just kidding, i found it

[Rachel]

Hm, i think someone might want to pm them to find out the truth. No bylaw mods should ignore this thread.

WTF are you talking about?

[*incoherent*]

Hm, i think someone might want to pm them to find out the truth. No bylaw mods should ignore this thread.

can you not read? the list is correct. thats been stated about 25 times.

[demolished]

Oh okay, this is the part when i got confused. Sammi is tweeak ? Sorry guys.

ahh, musthave not counted sammi cus she's headstaff...

[*incoherent*]

nicki=tweeak
sammi=disco infiltrator

[*Guest*]

michael being a member and nicki a mod irks my anal nature.

but ah well

[*tweeak*]

Oh okay, this is the part when i got confused. Sammi is tweeak ? Sorry guys.

NO!

oh, now I see Spencer's post

michael being a member and nicki a mod irks my anal nature.

but ah well

I don't think that's really all that important, just so long as there's wqual numbers.

[*Guest*]

^
i dont think its important at all either, as all committee members are equal for this purpose... i just like neat lists which make sense

*spazes*

[Rachel]

Anyone mind if I delete that spazzo post up there?

[*tweeak*]

No, I did it.

[*Azarel*]

Moderator ship requirements

• 2 months minimum join time before applying for a staff position.
  
• No minimum post count requirement will be required for moderator ship.
  
• No endorsements will be required .
  
• Must be an official member/official designer in order to apply for staff .
  
• Must have 7 ppd before applying for a People staff position.
  
• Must have 5 ppd unless exceptionally qualified before applying for Design staff position.

Moderator Hiring Process

• Moderators nominate people they want for any category, no matter their category.
  
• There is no minimum of nominations we must have, but the maximum for each separate category is 10.
  
• Once all the nominations are said and done, polls are made for each category with the nominations.
  
• The community votes on those previously made nominations on who they think is best.
  
• Heads and Administrations use both the community and mod input to make their final decision.
  
• New moderators are hired.

I don't get it. The first section I've quoted states that people apply for staff. The second states that they are nominated by current moderators. So which one is it? One or the other is unnecessary.

[*mzkandi*]

Yeah, I noticed that, it's the last one. I'm thinking we will be using the first as basis of which to nominate people.

[racoons > you]

the first section was completed befor ethe last moderator hiring.

we need to make it read things like 'must have 7 ppd before BEING NOMINATED for staff', etc, instead of apply

[sadolakced acid]

[*]People/Head Staff & Admin must have 7 ppd.
[*]Design Staff must keep a 5 ppd unless they are exceptionally qualified.
[*] 200 posts now required in order to become an official member.
[*] There is no minimum of nominations we must have, but the maximum for each separate category is 10.
[*] Once all the nominations are said and done, polls are made for each category with the nominations.
[*] The community votes on those previously made nominations on who they think is best.
[*]Banning [list]Moderators have the power to:
[*] ban IP banned user's account.
[*] ban returned IP banned user's new account.
[*] ban returned IP banned user's new IP address.

all those require changes.

anyways; i think there needs to be a clause to allow the immediate banning of someone who is blantantly trolling, and anyone with thier same IP. or at least the immediate suspension.

[racoons > you]

mmm... i agree.

some form of emergency powers

[*mona lisa*]

Alright. So you guys can add that in. The by-laws have been approved by Christina and I. The only thing (it's minor) is that the third admin will be chosen when Christina and I see fit, meaning after some time. I'm going to wait till Jusun approves.

[micron]

Members

maybe warnings/suspension would be a better title?

Moderators nominate people they want for any category, no matter their category.

instead of category, staff position would be a better word choice.

There is no minimum of nominations we must have, but the maximum for each separate category is 10.

so what happens when there are more than ten nominations, which is totally probably considering any staff member can nominate anyone? i mentioned this some time ago.. this 10 limit doesnt serve any purpose, since the number 10 was the limit set by the maximum number of poll choices. however, it was later agreed that the polling system will not work for "voting in" the new moderators.

Once all the nominations are said and done, polls are made for each category with the nominations.

again, no polls will be made, since the forum software polling system does not let you select multiple choices, therefore, you will only be able to vote for one staff member, no matter how many you think is qualified!

i feel like we're going in circles here. i mentioned the two above in backstage, yet nothing was modified / deleted / added!

[racoons > you]

maybe warnings/suspension would be a better title?

instead of category, staff position would be a better word choice.

so what happens when there are more than ten nominations, which is totally probably considering any staff member can nominate anyone? i mentioned this some time ago.. this 10 limit doesnt serve any purpose, since the number 10 was the limit set by the maximum number of poll choices. however, it was later agreed that the polling system will not work for "voting in" the new moderators.

again, no polls will be made, since the forum software polling system does not let you select multiple choices, therefore, you will only be able to vote for one staff member, no matter how many you think is qualified!

i feel like we're going in circles here. i mentioned the two above in backstage, yet nothing was modified / deleted / added!

i agree with the first two points, that's just tweaking stuff

i agree with the second point as well... did that even happen last time? i SO dont even remember voting on that. ah well. anyway, yeah the poll is not workable

why didnt you say something about it HERE. you knpow, where the decisions were being made?

[*ranniel*]

Member Group Requirements

• Official Members will keep a 5 ppd.
• People/Head Staff & Admin must have 7 ppd.
• Design Staff must keep a 5 ppd unless they are exceptionally qualified.
• 200 posts now required in order to become an official member.

I just wanted to see the approved by-laws, on the official member's thread it says only 50 posts required in order to become an official member.

• Lend a hand and be active in the community. Get at least 50 posts under your belt and maintain a minimum of 5.0 posts per day.

[*mona lisa*]

Since all the technicalities about the process of hiring has been sorted out, the by-laws are officially in use. The modding aspect is what was keeping everything on hold.

Thanks for bringing it back.

Wait, the advertising section is the only part of the by-laws that is incomplete.

[duplicatex0x0x0]

I guess it's complete now?

Micron added it to the community guidlines under "Advertising"

[*Guest*]

nigga, please.

[*Guest*]

i would like to request a layout

[*Guest*]

i want it to be different shades of purple.
with a butterfly background and banner

[*Guest*]

for myspace.

[*mzkandi*]

Does this even look like a place to remotely request a layout? No.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showforum=71

And you'll need 50 posts.

[*Guest*]

umm hello i'm a guest here ya dumb ass how should i know?

[*Guest*]

Hey guest, you're a f**king diepshit. if you cant respect us then we wont.

oh yeah, do you know what the does "feedback" or "by-law", dumbf**k.


i'm spiritual winged aura.

[*Guest*]

and i'm ur mother.

[*incoherent*]

we dont need all this nonsense.

keep it up and ill delete the posts.

For better organization, by-laws that have been agreed upon will be posted in here. Please refrain from making comments/spamming. Thanks.

[no-name]

may i be added?

[*Libertie*]

^Being that the by-laws are currently in effect and aren't being worked on anymore, we don't need to add anyone to the by-laws committee.

[MiSSxMELON]

So to even qualify for any sort of position, you have to maintain a high PPD?

[Simba]

So to even qualify for any sort of position, you have to maintain a high PPD?

Well, it's something that's looked at, but any of these requirements can be overlooked if the person is exceptionally qualified.

[MiSSxMELON]

When you say exceptionally qualified, what specifically do you mean? (This is out of curiosity.)

[Mulder]

well, for example, dani (and me, also) were added as lj staff both when are ppd were below 5, because we were both deemed exceptionally qualified in livejournal.

[Simba]

Well, for People Staff, it usually means something like even if your PPD is low, but if you prove that you're regularly active within the forums, you will probably have a better chance. I would think this would usually be in the case of an older member having a long hiatus and then coming back, finding their PPD much lower.

For Design Staff it could mean something like if they help around the Resource Center often and do a good job of answering questions.

Since the PPD is usually as a reference of a person's activity (though not necessarily completely accurate). I know PPD isn't the only requirement, but it seems to be the only one that you actually have to maintain yourself.

[MiSSxMELON]

That makes sense. Thanks. :)