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John GALLIANO (sp?), Says goodby to beautiful models
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tequila_sky
post Oct 11 2005, 01:19 PM
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What do you know about this? Apparently John Galliano a designer, chose 'normal' looking models rather than the classic thin, tall and beautiful models we are used to see strutting in the catwalk. The models included overweight, short, normal looking and old people.

Tried to find an article/pictures but couldn't find any... sorry!
 
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Gypsy Eyes
post Oct 11 2005, 03:39 PM
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I think it was a great thing to do. Not everyone is tall and anorexic thin. Why should a size 0 be defined as the only beauty? I personally think that most of the size zero models are disgusting. People who say that these girls are beautiful have obviously not been backstage at a fashion show where diet pills and anorexia are a common thing where you can see every single bone in their body. Curves are beautiful, and just because they are overweight or old doesn't mean they can't be. Modeling isn't only about being beautiful, in fact there are many beautiful girls who can't do it because it takes confidence not being tall and thin.

Sorry a bit of a rant there. But i think it's an amazing thing he is doing.

edit // I found the article:
John Galliano Spring 2006 Collection
 
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post Oct 11 2005, 03:54 PM
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I agree with what Gypsy Eyes is saying. I'm glad old people, normal people, etc. are being used as models, not all clothes are/should be for the anorexic 20 year olds. In my opinion, curves (not fat) are much more beautiful than bones gouging out of your skin.
 
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post Oct 11 2005, 08:30 PM
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I think it's a good idea too... I don't feel elaborating.
 
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post Oct 12 2005, 05:56 AM
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I voted its cool. I think it is something different. Its liberating I guess. Whether it was simply a selling strategy...I dont know I guess I will keep u posted!
 
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post Oct 12 2005, 05:37 PM
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Skinny models, curvey models, fat models...
as long as their symmetrical and classically pretty I have no problem with them.

But those ugly people... oooh do I hate ugly people...
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post Oct 12 2005, 05:39 PM
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Skinny models, curvey models, fat models...
as long as their symmetrical and classically pretty I have no problem with them.

But those ugly people... oooh do I hate ugly people...
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post Oct 12 2005, 08:17 PM
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finally, i think that makes everyone feel better about themselves
 
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:15 PM
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Maybe it'll spread in our society to show that you don't have to be tall, thin, and perfect to be considered beautiful.

It's a wonderful idea.
 
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post Oct 13 2005, 06:29 PM
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im sorry but i think the catwalk is for tall, thin, beautiful ppl. its always been like that. im sorry if ive offended you but this is what i think and i just dont want it any other way.
 
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post Oct 13 2005, 06:58 PM
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I think it's a good idea as long as they actually look good in the clothes...I mean, they probably won't wear them as well as tall and skinny people, but if it looks good on them, the go for it =)
 
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post Oct 13 2005, 07:02 PM
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Wonderful. I think I'll start wearing his clothes now... assuming I can afford them.

I'm also a huge fan of the Dove ads that show REAL women. I think it's great that at least some companies are keeping in mind that not all of their consumers are stick thin. I'm glad that they're taking into account the reality of our bodies.
 
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QUOTE(phreakyevil @ Oct 13 2005, 4:58 PM)
I think it's a good idea as long as they actually look good in the clothes...I mean, they probably won't wear them as well as tall and skinny people, but if it looks good on them, the go for it =)
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agreed. i think its a great idea and it can show that people can look great even if they're not the tall and skinny type.
 
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post Oct 14 2005, 08:09 PM
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my opinion is like... 'ehh... ok then.' because high fashion is all about being outrageous and stuff right? and lots of those ppl definitely aren't 'normal'. yes it might be a statement, but it might just be to make his show more interesting. so i don't really know what to say ermm.gif
 
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post Oct 14 2005, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(charanjust4yu @ Oct 13 2005, 6:29 PM)
im sorry but i think the catwalk is for tall, thin, beautiful ppl. its always been like that.
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sorry too be a bit off topic here, but no they haven't been. Curvy was always on the catwalk until 3 or 4 years ago. Get your facts straight hun wink.gif
 
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QUOTE(phreakyevil @ Oct 13 2005, 6:58 PM)
I think it's a good idea as long as they actually look good in the clothes...I mean, they probably won't wear them as well as tall and skinny people, but if it looks good on them, the go for it =)
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agreed.
but i generally don't like topics like this [irl also]. i mean, once people bring up the whole model thing, all you hear is "OMFG SKINNY GIRLS ARE SICK. ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE A SIZE NEGATIVE-A-MILLION"
i wear a zero, and i hate to see people sit there and say its gross and disgusting. im sorry, but i cant help it.its natural, im not a stuck up twig with anorexia problems. not to say all people are like this, but i just seem to hear that alot.
nice to see him expanding his horizons, though. im happy for him. thumbsup.gif
 
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post Oct 15 2005, 01:26 AM
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I don't feel quite comfortable after watching the slideshow in the article.

I mean it's okay if you choose normal-looking people for the catwalk, but I think the people John Galliano chose were too extreme. They're all piled with weird makeup on their faces (white foundation and black lipstick ermm.gif), and the emphasis is on their looks and body rather than the fashion itself.
 
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post Oct 15 2005, 09:14 AM
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i dont like it because people are going to focus on the models and how unique they are rather than the clothes they're modeling. i think its easier for designers to only have tall, thin models because when they're making their clothes for the fashion shows, they don't have to customize each and every piece of clothing.
and there's nothing wrong with being tall and skinny. some people cant help it so please don't go calling it ugly.




now everyone is going to want to be a model and the shows will be a contest of who has the most wide range of people rather than whos got the nicest designs. yay! [/sarcasm]
 
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post Oct 20 2005, 03:55 PM
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^Oh mai gah, I like totally agree. Ugly people should like be banned from the catwalk, they are waaay to hard to work with.

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post Oct 20 2005, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(xchrystizzle @ Oct 15 2005, 10:14 AM)
and there's nothing wrong with being tall and skinny. some people cant help it so please don't go calling it ugly.
now everyone is going to want to be a model and the shows will be a contest of who has the most wide range of people rather than whos got the nicest designs. yay! [/sarcasm]


What's wrong with more people wanting to model? Finally opportunities are opening up for a wider variety of people. Finally the "perfect size 0" trend is fading. This is a milestone for the fashion industry.

And it kind of is ugly when so many girls starve themselves of curves and beauty. I'll take my size 6 over a 0 any day, thank you very much. It's a bit hard to believe that girls are naturally that sickly, frail, and weak looking. There's so much more behind just a "fast metabolism".
 
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post Oct 21 2005, 09:14 PM
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And it kind of is ugly when so many girls starve themselves of curves and beauty. I'll take my size 6 over a 0 any day, thank you very much. It's a bit hard to believe that girls are naturally that sickly, frail, and weak looking. There's so much more behind just a "fast metabolism".


ummm im tall n skinny but i also am curvy i just have a flat stomach.... how can you say its ugly?? we cant help it.... i eat like so much but im still thin and i cant stand it when people say "ewwwwww dont you eat!" i do eat... i can sit on the couch and eat ice cream all day and i wont gain one permanent pound.... nd plz dont say that cuz it makes us feel bad... everyone is diff
 
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post Oct 21 2005, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(charanjust4yu @ Oct 21 2005, 9:14 PM)
ummm im tall n skinny but i also am curvy i just have a flat stomach.... how can you say its ugly?? we cant help it.... i eat like so much but im still thin and i cant stand it when people say "ewwwwww dont you eat!" i do eat... i can sit on the couch and eat ice cream all day and i wont gain one permanent pound.... nd plz dont say that cuz it makes us feel bad... everyone is diff
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she isn't talking about thin. she is talking about being able to see every single bone in the body. No one is naturally that skinny. Thin is fine if it fit's your body type. Emaiciated is not normal and not beautiful.
 
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post Oct 22 2005, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(charanjust4yu @ Oct 21 2005, 10:14 PM)
ummm im tall n skinny but i also am curvy i just have a flat stomach.... how can you say its ugly?? we cant help it.... i eat like so much but im still thin and i cant stand it when people say "ewwwwww dont you eat!" i do eat... i can sit on the couch and eat ice cream all day and i wont gain one permanent pound.... nd plz dont say that cuz it makes us feel bad... everyone is diff
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Thanks, Jackie. throb.gif

I said "STARVE THEMSELVES". I was not directing that to girls who are naturally thin, like yourself. Please read next time.
 
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I think this is great. Someone is finally realizing that not only size 0's are beautiful. *applause for John Galiano*
 
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post Oct 25 2005, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(charanjust4yu @ Oct 13 2005, 6:29 PM)
im sorry but i think the catwalk is for tall, thin, beautiful ppl. its always been like that. im sorry if ive offended you but this is what i think and i just dont want it any other way.
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Really? Are you tall, think and beautiful yourself?
 
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post Oct 28 2005, 07:05 PM
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i dont like it because people are going to focus on the models and how unique they are rather than the clothes they're modeling. i think its easier for designers to only have tall, thin models because when they're making their clothes for the fashion shows, they don't have to customize each and every piece of clothing.
and there's nothing wrong with being tall and skinny. some people cant help it so please don't go calling it ugly.
now everyone is going to want to be a model and the shows will be a contest of who has the most wide range of people rather than whos got the nicest designs. yay! [/sarcasm]
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Are you implying that normal people can't be a model just because they're not skinny and tall? okay. right.

I think this is a great idea. =)

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What's wrong with more people wanting to model? Finally opportunities are opening up for a wider variety of people. Finally the "perfect size 0" trend is fading. This is a milestone for the fashion industry.

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good for ppl with "not good body"
 
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Wonderful. I think I'll start wearing his clothes now... assuming I can afford them.

I'm also a huge fan of the Dove ads that show REAL women. I think it's great that at least some companies are keeping in mind that not all of their consumers are stick thin. I'm glad that they're taking into account the reality of our bodies.

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yeah i love does dove ads
i think this is a great idea
 
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post Nov 5 2005, 10:24 PM
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Its good~ Eversince the reason that there's been a decline in sales is because women or their target markets are put off by the really thin models that look good in those clothes.........

But then there's the idea and impression of the target market thinking it might not look good on them.

Dove has started to use normal women of all shapes and sizes for their advertising instead of the thin beautiful models~ Sales have increased heaps bcoz of that change.
 
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that's a beautiful idea! cry.gif
 
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post Nov 30 2005, 12:28 AM
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Finally. A chance for normal people [not skinny beautiful models] to shine.
But then again, don't get me wrong; not all skinny pretty models are bad; it's just.. normal people aren't ever portrayed. Even though a majority of normal people wear the clothing. ermm.gif
 
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QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Oct 11 2005, 12:39 PM)
I think it was a great thing to do. Not everyone is tall and anorexic thin.  Why should a size 0 be defined as the only beauty? I personally think that most of the size zero models are disgusting. People who say that these girls are beautiful have obviously not been backstage at a fashion show where diet pills and anorexia are a common thing where you can see every single bone in their body. Curves are beautiful, and just because they are overweight or old doesn't mean they can't be. Modeling isn't only about being beautiful, in fact there are many beautiful girls who can't do it because it takes confidence not being tall and thin.

Sorry a bit of a rant there. But i think it's an amazing thing he is doing.



Well great then. I'm 'disgusting' and I can't even f**king help it because I was born that way. I know a girl who suffered from anorexia for a while, and my size zero pants were huge on her. I would never praise or advertize anorexia as something that is attractive, but I do believe in giving people who suffer from it support, not ridiculing them or talking down on them for something they have little control over, something that has taken over their life. What's disgusting is how people like you make assumptions about models and people who are thin. I don't (and never did) have an eating disorder. I'm 5'7 and 112 lbs. My doctor has never even mentioned me being too thin.

I'm not against John Galiano. I just think it's rude for people to critisize people who can't help how thin they are.

You say that being a size zero shouldn't be defined as beauty? Well my boyfriend thinks I'm beautiful. My friends think I'm beautiful. I think I'm beautiful.

Just a bit of a rant.
 
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post Dec 1 2005, 09:11 PM
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^ I totally agree with you. We have gone so far to create more realistic images of beauty that we have forgotten, even criticized and ridiculed the former perfect image.

By the way, I don't think Jackie'll be here to respond to what you said, but I'm sure she didn't mean that to offend anyone. Just poor choice of words.
 
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It is a great idea to choose normal lookin' models because seriously not everyone can be that thin. Everyone seems to be getting the idea that thin is the only way to go; to me, as long as youre healthy-it's all good.
 
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QUOTE(Nicolatofu @ Oct 13 2005, 12:15 PM)
Maybe it'll spread in our society to show that you don't have to be tall, thin, and perfect to be considered beautiful.

It's a wonderful idea.
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Agreed, it'll spread and that would be awesome _smile.gif then maybe people wont be so insecure.

QUOTE(lea_ @ Nov 5 2005, 8:57 AM)
good for ppl with "not good body"
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Just because they arent all skin&bones doesnt mean they have a "bad body" or w/e
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how interesting...but i think he should use both.
 
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post Dec 4 2005, 06:36 PM
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in response to airtightdiver, gigi is right. I didn't mean anorexia in itself is disgusting, i meant how we viewed it as beautiful. Fashion modeling agencies even encourage " very limited eating". I never meant it to be offensive
 
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QUOTE(yanners @ Dec 3 2005, 10:37 AM)
how interesting...but i think he should use both.
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i agree. i think all body types are beautiful, not just "normal" or "tall & skinny," or "overweight." it's all beautiful. _smile.gif
 
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post Dec 9 2005, 09:28 PM
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Really? Are you tall, think and beautiful yourself?



uhh im just tall and thin (yes, a size zero) not beautiful

i think all body shapes are beautiful but now everyone will want to become a model... and im sorry to say most of them will get their heart broken

its ok if anyone disagrees with me but i just dont want ppl to get their hopes up and get them smashed to a pulp when they try to find an agency to model for...


therefore, i do not like this idea
 
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