face transplant Options

[hi-C]

I'm not sure if this is right for debate so I'll post this here. If I'm wrong, I know a wonderful mod will put it in the right section

Doctors are going attempt a radical new surgery: a total face transplant. They're going to take the face of a dead person and put it on the face of someone (as of yet not selected) whose face was horribly disfigured in some accident. You can read the article here.

When I saw this I was like "Holy crap" and actually felt a little sick to my stomach. Is the desire to look nice worth risking your life? And then the whole thing about it being the face of a dead person... I think that's effed up.

What do you guys think?

[*mzkandi*]

Why would anyone want a dead persons face..... Thats more than disturbing. This topic could lead into a debate but I shall where this goes.

[*krnxswat*]

Is the desire to look nice worth risking your life? 

well you wouldn't know cause you don't have a disfigured face, do you?










cut it out.

This post has been edited by mzkandi: Sep 19 2005, 04:16 PM

[*jooleeah*]

^
Aw, Seon Ho. :/

Anyway, that sounds kind of freaky. I wouldn't really want a dead person's face.

[*incoherent*]

a dead persons face? whatever happened to just getting plastic surgery?

[iheartjohn]

YESSSS.


Now I just have to wait until Rachel or Elba die.

[xmkaex]

...dead person?!?!

[canard bonaparte]

I imagine that the face would have to be from a fresh corpse.
You can't have the skin deteriorating.

For the person with the disfigured face, I don't think it's a matter of looking nice, I think it's a matter of looking "normal." I imagine the people wanting the face transplant are the ones that feel terribly out of place, so much so that they won't even go outside for fear of the reaction of others. I bet they also feel it's worth it to risk their life to feel "normal" and to see if it actually works, so that people with the same problem can know whether or not it works.

I don't know if it will work, but it's a nice idea.

[Aoiro]

So very interesting.
But I would never have a dead person's face.
Even if they dies like, 10 minutes ago.
>> <<

[LEGITERICJONES]

Yo, we need to hook you up with one. Just playing. Thats akward, How do they smile if its a dead persons face? Would they be able to control the cover persons flesh?

[*digital.fragrance*]

oh that's just wrong.... but beyond that, imagine the adverse reactions... allergies, skin contaminants.... aka bacteria exclusive to that face..... oh my

[Heathasm]

hey...reminds me of that movie face off...cool!

[*incoherent*]

Yo, we need to hook you up with one.

stop trying to act like seon ho. he already said that.
well, kiera editted it, but it's been said and it was just as stupid then as it is now...especially since you're really new.

[Heewee]

I could see how that would be beneficial for people who have needed surgery upon surgery to reconstruct their face after something tragic has happened. However, I think it would be more than a bit strange to be walking around with somebody else's face on. Nobody would recognize you and people who may have known the dead person might get emotional or freaked out if they saw you. I think it may feel like you're walking around in somebody else's body, even though it's just their face. To add to all these facts, I think that there will be major health issues that somebody who is the recipient of a face transplant would have to face. Personally, I would rather be unique and be my own person that where somebody else's face.

[LEGITERICJONES]

stop trying to act like seon ho. he already said that.
well, kiera editted it, but it's been said and it was just as stupid then as it is now...especially since you're really new.

Why would I want to be asian? I didn't even notice he said that and with my crappy internet it would take me 5 minutes to load the page.

[AngryBaby]

stop trying to act like seon ho. he already said that.
well, kiera editted it, but it's been said and it was just as stupid then as it is now...especially since you're really new.

hes not trying to act like seon ho believe or not he didnt invent bluntness, pssshht i said the same thing in my head.

but anywho, how can you wake up every morning, look in the mirror, and be happy with a dead persons face on yours? that would like, haunt me haha.

[EmmalieV]

I dont want a dead persons identity

THINK ABOUT THIS;

when the dead persons family sees this person , theyll shit in their pants. I know I would. & even if the persons family give them permission it will still be weird.

^Oops for people thinking about what I thought.

Another form tells donor families that the person receiving the face will not resemble their dead loved one. The recipient should look similar to how he or she did before the injury because the new skin goes on existing bone and muscle, which give a face its shape.

[JustAnotherTeena...]

Ew, just...ew. That would be horrid. I think I'd rather have a disfigured face...

Oh, & for all the people that were talking about how you would look like the dead person & such- try actually read the artical before posting:

Another form tells donor families that the person receiving the face will not resemble their dead loved one. The recipient should look similar to how he or she did before the injury because the new skin goes on existing bone and muscle, which give a face its shape.

[*mipadi*]

Yo, we need to hook you up with one. Just playing. Thats akward, How do they smile if its a dead persons face? Would they be able to control the cover persons flesh?

They could still make facial expressions--the nerves in the new face work, and the existing muscle is kept.

[technicolour]

^ Uh yeah.

Still. That's a bit on the GROSS-HURL-BLAH side.

[AngryBaby]

ph, well if they use only the skin to fil in spots, thats not so horrid then

[*krnxswat*]

Why would I want to be asian?

THE QUESTION IS, WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO BE ASIAN?!?!?!?!?! OH MY GAHHH

[misskentucky]

I wouldn't want a deap person's face on my face. I'd just get reconstructive surgery, plastic surgery.

[shortiiex]

ew taht is really disgusting
but how much does it pay?

[eli5e]

ummmm ..that is really disturbing ..cause see if somone you know dies, and then someone who's opt in doing this takes their face.. .they'll be walking around in that person's face ..T_T

[Nicolatofu]

I heard about that on the news this morning..

That's just a little disturbing. Maybe it's beneficial towards people who've went through something that damaged their face, but other than that, it's pretty freaky if you think about it.

[*stephinika*]

^^
agreed. that sounds...interesting. quite. it seems a bit...odd to me i think. *shrug*

[*suddenly she*]

i want to be king tut!
that's actually sorta creepy.

[Hiphop d[-_-]b]

Putting a dead persons face on your face is messing with the afterlife. They could be cursed or something.

At least, thats what i think :D

[EXPLO5ION]

That... is really creepy. who would wan't a dead person's face?

[haleakala1]

if i was like a burn victim or something horrific happened to my face i'd probably do it. but i don't, it's a little disturbing though....

[Gigi]

I know how you guys all feel about putting a deceased person's face on yourself and becoming that person's face...but actually, I saw a documentary on this a while ago in Hong Kong talking about these very issues. I think it was BBC doc, not sure, though.

It creeped me out, but not as much as the documentary about that guy from Germany or whatever who does those world-wide tours of preserved dead bodies from vacuumed plastic or whatever. He cuts the bodies into sheets with like, a band saw butchers use and...okay. It was just way more disturbing than this.

Anyway, of course the scientists have thought about these problems...how would people feel to have the face of someone else? So they did some tests on dead people.

They swapped the faces of two corpses and gave the original and swapped photos to other scientists to inspect. If you saw this person on the street, would you know that was him?

All of the scientists answered no. Because the human face is different, and just because the skin and flesh is the same, doesn't mean the bone is the same either.

You don't have to worry about people walking in the streets and seeing their grandfather who died 2 years ago on a face of a totally different person.

It was an interesting documentary, though, watch it.

[aznxdreamer]

hmm..thats pretty interesting. i would understand if someone wanted to do that. and in the article they mentioned that they wont look like the person that died but more like themselves before they became disfigured. if my face was all screwed up id do it.

[starlette]

Why would anyone want a dead persons face..... Thats more than disturbing. This topic could lead into a debate but I shall where this goes.

Yeah. Its a little weird. Like imagine you are Britney spears' family, and she dies. Then some random person pays a bazillion dollars for her face. Then her new son (who would be older now) has finally gotten over the heartbreak of losing his mother and *poof* he sees her walking down the street. Imagine the horrible nightmares and hospital visits its owuld take to get over that type of crap.

[whomps]

Dude, imagine if you were a family member of that dead person.. Wow. That's horrible.

[gelionie]

If I because horrible disfigured, I'd rather stay as that than having a dead person's face transplanted onto mine.

I don't think anyone would want their dead relatives/friends' faces on a living person either.

[Ington]

I know how you guys all feel about putting a deceased person's face on yourself and becoming that person's face...but actually, I saw a documentary on this a while ago in Hong Kong talking about these very issues. I think it was BBC doc, not sure, though.

It creeped me out, but not as much as the documentary about that guy from Germany or whatever who does those world-wide tours of preserved dead bodies from vacuumed plastic or whatever. He cuts the bodies into sheets with like, a band saw butchers use and...okay. It was just way more disturbing than this.

Anyway, of course the scientists have thought about these problems...how would people feel to have the face of someone else? So they did some tests on dead people.

They swapped the faces of two corpses and gave the original and swapped photos to other scientists to inspect. If you saw this person on the street, would you know that was him?

All of the scientists answered no. Because the human face is different, and just because the skin and flesh is the same, doesn't mean the bone is the same either.

You don't have to worry about people walking in the streets and seeing their grandfather who died 2 years ago on a face of a totally different person.

It was an interesting documentary, though, watch it.

THANK YOU. I love you Gigi.

People. You are not going to look like the dead person. The skin and tissue that is going to be used is from a corpse. Although it sounds weird, its much better than having it be synthetic, because it could look really weird or cause allergies. Also, you won't have freaking maggots crawling out of you or anything.

ONCE AGAIN, FREAKING HELL, YOU WON'T LOOK LIKE THE DECEASED PERSON.
Calm down.

I think its horrible how you people can take horribly disfigured people and be disgusted because they want to look good, or even humanlike.

You people have to read the article before posting. This is happening too much here.

[xquizit]

All of the scientists answered no. Because the human face is different, and just because the skin and flesh is the same, doesn't mean the bone is the same either.

You don't have to worry about people walking in the streets and seeing their grandfather who died 2 years ago on a face of a totally different person.

Well, then that's a relief. It's a bit creepy but I guess I understand why it could be useful. I just hope that people don't abuse it.

[emazing]

That's gross. o_O
Would people really want a deceased person's facial features on their face?
I wouldn't.

[misoshiru]

Why would anyone want a dead persons face..... Thats more than disturbing. This topic could lead into a debate but I shall where this goes.

i agree. even though someone's face was disfigured, why would they want a face of a dead person?

[hi-C]

People. You are not going to look like the dead person. The skin and tissue that is going to be used is from a corpse. Although it sounds weird, its much better than having it be synthetic, because it could look really weird or cause allergies. Also, you won't have freaking maggots crawling out of you or anything.

Yeah, but there's also the possibility that your body might reject the new tissue placed on your "face." IMO, it'd be better to graft skin or clone skin cells to be used on your face. Far less chance of rejection.

[Chii]

people who may have known the dead person might get emotional or freaked out if they saw you. I think it may feel like you're walking around in somebody else's body, even though it's just their face.

i agree...even if you don't completely look like that person anymore, there will probably be some characteristics left, like birthmarks or moles.

b,Sep 19 2005, 9:59 PM]Putting a dead persons face on your face is messing with the afterlife. They could be cursed or something.

At least, thats what i think :D

that's possible, like homer's hair transplant on the simpsons


not everyone's skin tone matches so that would be a major problem...i saw this man who got a deceased person's hand/part of arm attatched to him...that was really disturbing because it was really obvious that it was not originally his arm

[*xcaitlinx*]

umm..i'm gunna go BARF now. wow, it's sad how pathetic some people are that they'll go to that extreme to live up to other people's standards.

psshhht. damn society.

who the hell would want a dead, maybe even old person's face? that doens't even make sense. are they going to like sew it on? Ew.. i dont want to even think about HOW they would put it on you.

[Gigi]

Yeah, but there's also the possibility that your body might reject the new tissue placed on your "face."  IMO, it'd be better to graft skin or clone skin cells to be used on your face.  Far less chance of rejection.

Yeah, that's why you have to take anti-rejection medication for the rest of your life. Which has side-effects like some liver disease or cancer (something like that).

I think that if you graft skin or clone skin cells on someone with really disfigured features...it wouldn't do them much good. I mean, their face is already so badly burned. I dunno. They probably have looked for other ways to improve someone's facial features...but they decided this was best?

umm..i'm gunna go BARF now. wow, it's sad how pathetic some people are that they'll go to that extreme to live up to other people's standards.

psshhht. damn society.

who the hell would want a dead, maybe even old person's face? that doens't even make sense. are they going to like sew it on? Ew.. i dont want to even think about HOW they would put it on you.

Anyway, I am NOT liking how some people are very closed-minded and ignorant in this discussion (NOT directed at Carrie, I love her very much and that was a respectful opinion with good backup).

Listen. People are not doing this to "live up" to society's standards. The truth is, these people have simply STOPPED becoming part of the society due to this disfigurement! That's why you guys should've seen the documentary, really. They interviewed the woman from Russia or somewhere who got her face badly, and I mean badly, burned. She was so beautiful before, but now she looks like a monster.

How would you feel? Most people would be ready to kill themselves right then and there. But not this lady. She was strong, and it was miraculous enough that she lived through it. Sure, she's independent. But she's not social. She can't go outside without people staring and pointing, and without children getting scared. She can't communicate with the outside world and has simply lost that communication with the society altogether. She is no longer a part of it.

If being burned wasn't punishment enough, now she's being banished by people because of this burn. Now how do you feel? Would you rather stick a dead person's face on yourself and regain that little bit of dignity and respect that you deserve? Or be looked at like a zoo animal for the rest of your life while still recovering from the physical and mental pain of the accident?

And about how the procedure works and "why" you would want a dead person's face on you, I am not even thinking of answering that for you.





And you know, this procedure isn't going to be used by average looking people to look not so average. This procedure is highly risky and dangerous, and is only prescribed for those who need it to seriously improve their quality of life. It is for those badly burned, cut, scraped, you name it, in rare accidents that make them disfigured and terrifying to look at. NOT the geeky girl in your math class who longs for attention.

[mouse_3k]

thats so wrong. Dead people deserve respect with their face. if people dont like their face, they can get over it. No need to take a face of someone dead.

[*mipadi*]

thats so wrong. Dead people deserve respect with their face. if people dont like their face, they can get over it. No need to take a face of someone dead.

They're not "taking" it--the face has been donated, just like an organ.

[Rachel]

Gigi=Love.

Anything and everything I had to say about the topic and to the responses has been covered by this lovely woman. Read what she says before you idiots post any thing.

[Cwlplover]

Ummm...I'd rather be ugly then look like a dead person. That's just weird...I mean, really? I could walk in and be like, "My grandma just died...Could I like, have her face?" uhhh...no thanks.

I'll keep my face. That's not a good idea. I mean, let's say someone close to you died, and a few months later you see this person walking down the street that looks JUST like them, but it's not them, it's another person wearing their face! That's just nasty. ehhh

[*danielle_x3*]

i wouldn't want to do that.. and i don't think i'd want to donate either. i think it's disgusting >_<

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

Oh wow that is SO creepy. Ripping off your face and putting on a dead guys face. -.-

[Cwlplover]

Ehhh...someone walking around with my face after I'm dead...

No thanks. One person wearing this ugly thing is enough. ;)

[xklipse]

umm..i'm gunna go BARF now. wow, it's sad how pathetic some people are that they'll go to that extreme to live up to other people's standards.

psshhht. damn society.

who the hell would want a dead, maybe even old person's face? that doens't even make sense. are they going to like sew it on? Ew.. i dont want to even think about HOW they would put it on you.

I doubt they JUSt gonna sew it on, they prollies gonna operate it, considering you can't just placed a dead person's face on another one.
AND I'm SURE some of you guys look wonderfuly beautiful and all, but some people just aren't as lucky!
I've read this girl who got hit by and drunk driver, she survived but she look like an alien (I'm not being mean, but that's the only word i can describe her face, she is completely defigured)

-shrugs- some peoples might think this is a livesaver

[*krnxswat*]

Ehhh...someone walking around with my face after I'm dead...

No thanks. One person wearing this ugly thing is enough. ;)

I concur.

[Tung]

i just think thats morallly wrong. ugh...dead people?!!

[_sarcastic_]

it is disturbing, but think of it this way, what if someone really disfigured from an accident really needs a face transplant i mean yeah it'll be freaky to be wearing someone else's face and there are always what if's. but i guess it can be a good thing (i think) for someone who really needs it

[Gigi]

You know, if you actually read the article, you might understand how it all goes.

[*krnxswat*]

it is disturbing, but think of it this way, what if someone really disfigured from an accident really needs a face transplant i mean yeah it'll be freaky to be wearing someone else's face and there are always what if's.  but i guess it can be a good thing (i think) for someone who really needs it

it is disturbing, but think of it this way, if you actually read the prior posts, then you would have realized we established that point already

[eunie03]

People have to stop trying to be something they're not. If you're not freaking original enough to make your own face, you deserve to be ugly.

[demolished]

If I ever transplant my face, I’ll be haunted by the spirit over a face.


I think it's a horrible idea to have a face transplant.
Even if you have a horrible face, it can be fixed.
Well, at least it’s better than your old face.

[Gigi]

People have to stop trying to be something they're not. If you're not freaking original enough to make your own face, you deserve to be ugly.

AGAIN.

IT ISN'T FOR UGLY PEOPLE. IT'S FOR BADLY BADLY BADLY DISFIGURED PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER UGLY, BUT NOW ARE JUST SCARY.

[eunie03]

AGAIN.

IT ISN'T FOR UGLY PEOPLE. IT'S FOR BADLY BADLY BADLY DISFIGURED PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER UGLY, BUT NOW ARE JUST SCARY.

WELL... I mean. In the strictest sense, disfigured people are "ugly" by definition. You hardly go, "wow, that disfigured person is really pretty". And I don't think disfiguration is scary much. It's tragic and unattractive... but scary? Nah.

That aside, I STILL don't see the point in stealing someone else's face. If we have the techniques to paste on someone's face on another person, we have the technique to build a new one.

edit: Oooo, I just read your old post. They wouldn't look the same, eh? You see.. that just changes everything. How misleading.

But my ugly=disfigured comment still stands.

[*mipadi*]

That aside, I STILLl don't see the point in stealing someone else's face. If we have the techniques to paste on someone's face on another person, we have the technique to build a new one.

No, building a new face is completely different from using an existing one. Where are you going to get all the skin and tissue it would take to build a new face? How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars? How are you going to build nerves so lips and eyelids function properly? All this is much harder to do than using an existing face.

The doctor's also aren't "stealing" someone else's face--the face was donated, just like an organ.

[eunie03]

No, building a new face is completely different from using an existing one. Where are you going to get all the skin and tissue it would take to build a new face? How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars? How are you going to build nerves so lips and eyelids function properly? All this is much harder to do than using an existing face.

The doctor's also aren't "stealing" someone else's face--the face was donated, just like an organ.

First of all.... you're taking "stealing" out of context. I meant stealing as in imitation, not theft. Secondly, I wasn't aware it wasn't in image-likeness. Last... you really think a face transplant wil result in no seams or scars? -_-;;

[Gigi]

Well I didn't mean to be rude or anything, I was a bit frustrated. The part where you said "if you're not freaking original enough" put me off a bit, because they probably don't to be original, just normal-looking enough.

It depends how you define scary, of course. Children get scared. I got scared by a stupid Halloween mask when I was a kid. A victim of extreme burns does look shocking, though. Maybe not scary to some, but certainly shocking.

[*mipadi*]

First of all.... you're taking "stealing" out of context. I meant stealing as in imitation, not theft. Secondly, I wasn't aware it wasn't in image-likeness. Last... you really think a face transplant wil result in no seams or scars? -_-;;

Maybe a thin mark around the outer edge, but nothing like completely building a new face from skin grafts.

[eunie03]

Well I didn't mean to be rude or anything, I was a bit frustrated. The part where you said "if you're not freaking original enough" put me off a bit, because they probably don't to be original, just normal-looking enough.

It depends how you define scary, of course. Children get scared. I got scared by a stupid Halloween mask when I was a kid. A victim of extreme burns does look shocking, though. Maybe not scary to some, but certainly shocking.

Yea yea... I just felt I had to defend myself. Again, I didn't know they wouldn't look exactly alike. My apologies for missing that part.

[Gigi]

If a face was built from existing skin grafts, it would be extremely difficult to find parts that would match each other well. You might end up looking like one of those collages of different parts of the face kids make in art class. If an entire face is used, then it is more whole and natural looking, without the mouth looking out of place and yeah.

[eunie03]

You know, a transplant is rarely perfect. It's a risk in itself.

Complications could include infections that turn your new face black and require a second transplant or reconstruction with skin grafts.

Granted, it's easier to use a whole face, but you can't say it'll be near flawless. (to mipadi)

[*mipadi*]

You know, a transplant is rarely perfect. It's a risk in itself.
Granted, it's easier to use a whole face, but you can't say it'll be near flawless. (to mipadi)

I'm sorry, I don't recall saying it was nearly flawless. Probably because I didn't.

[eunie03]

Maybe a thin mark around the outer edge

That seems pretty near flawless to me.

[Cwlplover]

Nothing's flawless.

[*mipadi*]

That seems pretty near flawless to me.

Right, but had you read what I wrote, I was comparing the growth of scar tissue between a face transplant and the (theoretical) use of skin grafts to build a new face. I didn't say anything about infection or rejection by the body, which is an issue with any transplant.

[*danielle_x3*]

everytime i read the article i cringe. i wouldn't want to do that to myself

[rinchan089]

I saw it on Discovery Health Channel. They concluded that friends and family members of the face donor will not recognize their beloved's face on the patient. This is because of the differences in bone structure. The face may have similar qualities, but it will more likely be a combination of both the patient's original face and the cadaver's. This will, thus, create a new person.

Yes, the idea of using one person's face on someone else's is a bit unethical. However, so were heart transplants. People got over that pretty quickly.

Also, scars WILL exist, but not on the donated tissue, only on the patient. Theoretically, the entire face will be attatched, therefore scars would be along the hairline, ears, and under the neck.

And, when you really think about it, if you were living without a face for half your life, I don't think you'd care if you had scars. You'd be so ecstatic about being able to go out in public and not be stared for being different.

I think they should go ahead with it.

Rin-chan

[eunie03]

Right, but had you read what I wrote, I was comparing the growth of scar tissue between a face transplant and the (theoretical) use of skin grafts to build a new face. I didn't say anything about infection or rejection by the body, which is an issue with any transplant.

Please... you didn't say anything about the growth of scar tissue. If you infer something, we're suppoed to read your mind? Comparitavely speaking, [to me] the two are just alternatives to each other. I don't necessarily believe one's better than the other. It's my opinion. I'm sorry if it disagrees with yours, but hey. Thats life.

[rinchan089]

You may want to look at this slideshow from the Discovery Health Channel website about the show they did. It shows the results of one partial face transplant (it was her own face which had been detatched and put back on) and a severly disfigured woman who is waiting for a face transplant.

This may disturb some viewers. Viewer discretion is advised.

Face Transplant slideshow

Rin-chan

[WindSorcerous]

I heard about this...sounds too risky and gross to me...

[Gigi]

rinchan089 - Excellent link! Should open some eyes to the operation.

[mocassinsx29]

Well, it's more of skin than actually face I suppose...

[BeyondElite]

That's messed up. Just wasting your money just to get a face of a dead person.

[*mipadi*]

Please... you didn't say anything about the growth of scar tissue. If you infer something, we're suppoed to read your mind? Comparitavely speaking, [to me] the two are just alternatives to each other. I don't necessarily believe one's better than the other. It's my opinion. I'm sorry if it disagrees with yours, but hey. Thats life.

Not to be disagreeable, but actually, I did specifically mention scarring:

How are you going to shape it so there are no seams or scars?

[whooooshy]

that is soooo creepy. who in the world would want to do that? not only the whole face transplant, but from a dead person?? oh my goodness...

[Ington]

Oh my god.

Gigi, Mipadi, and a couple of more members and I have tried to explain the procedure to you all. BUT YOU REFUSE TO READ.

Freaking ignoramuses.

[Gigi]

^ You got that right.

[rinchan089]

rinchan089 - Excellent link! Should open some eyes to the operation.

Thanks! I had just seen the show on Discovery Health Channel like a week and a half ago and I see this thread! lol

And, really, if people actually read anything I or a few other members have said, they would be for the procedure as well.

I think they're just saying what all their friends are saying... You know, mob mentality. I didn't really have an opinion on this topic before I saw the show but I thought it would be unethical for someone to have someone else's face. Then they described the procedure and showed the one sucessful version of it and how they plan to do it and everything. When you think about it, putting anyone else's body part on someone else can be seen as unethical.

Doctors are now performing hand transplants. That's a dead guy's hand the patients are now using. But, I don't think it matters to them who's hand it is, as long as they can do everyday things.

I bet that if you didn't have a face, you would want the surgery too. I would post the picture of someone waiting for the surgery on here but I really don't want to have people make fun of her.

Just watch the slide show. It'll be very hard to say no to it afterwards.

Rin-chan

[hammers and hear...]

HAHAH INSTEAD OF TRADING SPACES IT WOULD BE TRADING FACES. wow thats creepy.

[rinchan089]

^^^ I didn't find that very funny...

Rin-chan

[totallyxticxtac]

that would be kinda gross cuz somebody might think ur that dead person. haha

[Gigi]

^ Oh dear.

[lbjshaq2345]

YESSSS.
Now I just have to wait until Rachel or Elba die.

felicia you dont need no face transplant you fine as hell anyway

HAHAH INSTEAD OF TRADING SPACES IT WOULD BE TRADING FACES.

^^^ I didn't find that very funny...

i found it f**kin hilarious

[PinkTrash]

uh yeah :/ won't a dead person's face be dehydrated and wrinkly anyway? But, they could probably fix that anyway. Scary; especially if somebody thinks you're some dead person

[*mipadi*]

uh yeah :/ won't a dead person's face be dehydrated and wrinkly anyway? But, they could probably fix that anyway. Scary; especially if somebody thinks you're some dead person 

Reading the article will clarify both these issues: the face is just like an organ, in that it is "fresh"; and it is the bone and muscle of a face, not the skin, that determines how a person looks, so they will not look like the deceased donater.

[OhXiet_ItzDonnA]

Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

[doork]

shouldnt a dead person be left alone now since they're dead ? its jus my opinion ..

[*mipadi*]

Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

Reading the article will reveal that the face is not "taken"; it's donated, just like a kidney or a heart. It's no more disrespectful than using organs that a person has donated, which is not disrespectful at all.

[angel-roh]

Wow.... and that doesn't like sound debate. You're just telling us what's going on about it.


But what the heck, who wants a dead face? Well maybe some people do. Like Chuckie the Doll. LOL hahaha. KIDDING!

He's not real and he's a doll lol.

Anyways, but that sounds really scary. If my crush died. And someone was using my crush's face... OMG!!!!! I would be so terrified. But who knows, that guy might have different personality, a better personality ;] hahaha just kidding. But NO THAT'S MESSED UP!! -_-;;

[Rachel]

Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

shouldnt a dead person be left alone now since they're dead ?  its jus my opinion ..

Wow.... and that doesn't like sound debate. You're just telling us what's going on about it.
But what the heck, who wants a dead face? Well maybe some people do. Like Chuckie the Doll. LOL hahaha. KIDDING!

He's not real and he's a doll lol.

Anyways, but that sounds really scary. If my crush died. And someone was using my crush's face... OMG!!!!! I would be so terrified. But who knows, that guy might have different personality, a better personality ;] hahaha just kidding. But NO THAT'S MESSED UP!!  -_-;;

READ THE GOD DAMN ARTICLE AND WATCH THE SLIDE SHOW. AFTER YOU'VE DONE BOTH, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE A GOOD RESPONSE. Idiots.

[yuna*]

I think it's wrong. Why should you alter your face features that you are borned with? WTH..this is eff up, geesss people should learn to live with what they have. Even if you are involved in a accident, it's too bad then.

[Rachel]

^Borned isn't a word.

And what the hell does a dead person, who gave their consent for someone to use their body/face for science, need with a face?

[rinchan089]

I think it's wrong. Why should you alter your face features that you are borned with? WTH..this  is eff up, geesss people should learn to live with what they have. Even if you are involved in a accident, it's too bad then.

No offense, but you are ignorant. The people who would be recieving face transplants have faces and bodies that can barely be considered human (no offense to them either, I'm fighting on their behalf). I'm sure if you were in their situation, you would give your life for a new face.

It's not your fault you were hit by a drunk driver when you were in your twenties and your car exploded into flames. After recieving second and third degree burns all over your body, having massive amounts of decaying skin removed, living through immense amounts of pain and suffering, and being forced to give up the bright future you longed for just because you don't look at all normal, I think you'd rather die than live another minute without a face.

OhXiet_ItzDonnA  Posted Sep 26 2005, 4:27 PM
  Ugh. That is real nasty. Why would someone take something from the dead? Isnt that disrespectful?

Has anyone been reading ANYTHING that has been said in this conversation? Geez...

By what you have just said, you think that if your kidneys failed or you had congestive heart failure, you wouldn't have the right to recieve a new organ just because someone else isn't using it anymore.

My beloved, but sadly deceased, grandfather had many health problems later in life. He had 2 heart attacks, a lung removed, kidney failure and a heart transplant. If he didn't have the heart transplant when he did and was given 10 more years to live, he would never have seen my parents get married. He would never have have lived to see his grandchildren grow older. He would have missed out on what he would later call the best years of his life.

If he did not recieve a heart from a brain dead 17 year old boy who died soon after he drove into a tree, my grandfather would have died a week before my parents wedding. My life would be forever changed and so would everyone else he touched.

So, in conclusion, I believe it's okay to take from the dead if it will allow someone else to have a better quality of life.

Rin-chan