An Art design section..., Not a forum but like the layout sections Options

[pshaa.shauna]

I have been thinking about this. With all of the layout sections (myspace, xanga, etc.) We have a showcase. We have a digital art forum,which is like a showcase. So with that an idea happened, why don't we have a section where you can submit a peice of digital art, for other people to use. As a wallpaper, or icon, or whatever else. I don't nessicarilly think it could be used towards the offical designer status, unless you use every 3 peices count as one layout, etc. I don't know how good of an idea this is, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

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Or you could specify what is what. Like, make an icon section, a signature section. Then with the normal categories as subcategories (abtract, anime/comic, etc.)

So it would be.

-icons
-abstract
-anime/comic
-etc.

signatures-
-etc

wallpaper-
-etc.

Then any other categories.

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signatures(thanks sprinkle-the-stars!)

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[whomps]

I like that idea. I love submitting.. avatars !

[OhXiet_ItzDonnA]

Yeah, that's a good idea. I gotta wait til I get my photoshop back.

[talcumpowder]

.... But.... But.... Credit. I love the idea, it's just that avatars and such usually don't have credit tags on them and many image sources, anime at least, ask for credit. So... I would suggest a credit section in addition to a submission section unless you want webmasters complaining. And a restricted image source list. =S Certain CG sites don't allow for use of their images unless you ask for permission... -shrug-

[pshaa.shauna]

^^That is a good idea. List the credits and the link to it. And a rule saying that you can't use copyrighted pictures..but isn't there a rule for that in general, like for layouts too?

[EXPLO5ION]

I like that idea, gives me something to do when I am bored. Plus, I have been having photoshop-block for a while, it might inspire me or something.

[demolished]

Hell yeah. Since, something wrong with my PS, i can use Ms Paint to edit the image.



.. What about credits ?

[whomps]

Oh yeah.. it'd be cool if like.. the avatars only worked/showed up on Createblog. or like. Dunno.

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COOL THIS IS MY 9,000th post !

[talcumpowder]

You mean, like... If they avatars were for use on CB only?

[whomps]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know if people would like that though.. but if I submitted avatars, I wouldn't want some random stranger taking them and using it on their stupid avatar site. That always happens.

[talcumpowder]

It is though, isn't it? Pft... Yeah. But, 'yknow.... They will create screenshots and jock avatars. Idiots always find ways around things... Maybe something more like... Only registered members can use them? And... I dunno. But I wouldn't want random strangers taking my avatars or something either...

[whomps]

It is though, isn't it? Pft... Yeah. But, 'yknow.... They will create screenshots and jock avatars. Idiots always find ways around things... Maybe something more like... Only registered members can use them? And... I dunno. But I wouldn't want random strangers taking my avatars or something either...

They can just Right-Click > Properties and direct link off the URL. =(

[BOOGERSHAHA]

can you make a forum for official members only? (more benefits!)
it's been done on other message boards, but i'm not sure if it'll work with cb.

[lovescream]

Maybe they can make that forum non right-clickable and gives a link for you to be able to change your avatar. Like iconator.com for AIM. And credits can go into your sig or member title? ...

[pshaa.shauna]

I don't how well it would go if the advatars were only for cb. Everyone could pick all of the same, it'd be chaos. Unless we decided not to open it up untill we had 150 advatars, or something like that.

About the jocking, that could always happen. Even with the layouts, it's not that hard to remove the credits, even on the pictures.

We could also do wallpapers too. Not many sites make those (unless you look on deivantart), so there would be less chance of jocking and stealing there.

[racoons > you]

can you make a forum for official members only? (more benefits!)
it's been done on other message boards, but i'm not sure if it'll work with cb.

i really like the whole idea, especially as a concept for mor eofcial privaleges

[pshaa.shauna]

I like the idea of having only offical members using it, but is there a way of saying you have to be an official member and have 200 posts? If you noticed, a lot of newbies make a bout 75 posts tops, after they become an offical member since they alreday have the benefits.

There would be a less chance of jocking.

Also, to protect screenshot taking, we could make the page password protected, or like the xanga tracker sign in is.

[technicolour]

I really really really really really like this idea.

I've been so dulled and I dont know what to do. Photoshop block...too.

But I really really really really like this idea.

[Im So Vain]

I aslo agree that this is a good idea, because I am always making wallpaper, sigs, and etc that I never use. Hope this goes through.

[ClaudelGFX]

for copyrights,credits and all those,for every piece of picture/text or any other materials that are under copyright,you need WRITEN PERMISION!

right click disable is not a good idea,you can just use a java script who doesnt show the real link and only the file name and extension like CB.jpg or whateva`

and about screenshots problem,only 1 way, put up on your images a big © sign with lower opacity/transparency but visible,and they wont bother too much to change all the picture just to have that one, or this can be made as a php script,on CB,so that script automaticly puts up on all images that big © sign. this way is used for most of the Royality Free Stock Photos Company's,who are selling over the net,only the samples ;-)


EXAMPLE:

Original Filename: IMG_0414b.jpg
Copyright Credits: Roxy
Link to the original image: i forgot :P
Notice:ive putup on her image an © sign (here you can explain,what did you take,added to the original image.)
I have written priviledges from the owner of this image to modify,or whateva i wanna do with it.
Please Contact the owner of this image,if you think its stolen,or copyright abuse.
E-mail/Phone nr, if its not someone from CB.



My excuses to Roxy, about this i hope she will not be upset,but she's a cuttie :P that's why ive choose her pic.

Thank You
Enjoy.

[pshaa.shauna]

for copyrights,credits and all those,for every piece of picture/text or any other materials that are under copyright,you need WRITEN PERMISION!

Which is exactly the same as using them for the layouts...you take images from sites that say you can use them for free. You don't use copywrited work.

and about screenshots problem,only 1 way, put up on your images a big © sign with lower opacity/transparency but visible,and they wont bother too much to change all the picture just to have that one, or this can be made as a php script,on CB,so that script automaticly puts up on all images that big © sign. this way is used for most of the Royality Free Stock Photos Company's,who are selling over the net,only the samples ;-) so your ideas will be protected;)

We got past that part already. WE figure that if you are an offical member with x amount of posts, you wouldn't really go that far to steal them and claim them as their own.

All of these problems are also apparant for the layouts.

[ClaudelGFX]

Which is exactly the same as using them for the layouts...you take images from sites that say you can use them for free. You don't use copywrited work.
We got past that part already. WE figure that if you are an offical member with x amount of posts, you wouldn't really go that far to steal  them and claim them as their own.

All of these problems are also apparant for the layouts.

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another way,to avoid taking ScreenShots,it can be made an ActivX Plugin for Browser,who if it is installed,it can detect when the button "Print Screen" is pushed and the plugin automaticly closes the browser (if its possible) or just the site
PS:only if you install that ActivX,you can access the website.

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Actually you can't protect the Copyright 100% over the net,there are 2394923499 ways how to steal something,so IF THEY REALLY WANT SOMETHING and they have BASIC KNOWLEDGE about this Internet or even if they are really Advanced users,they can steal whateva they want and you can't do anything about`it.
And if they already very Advanced Users they wont bother to steal anything,like pix or text or whatever,only the ideea its enuff for them,how did you put the parts on the website,what color,how the text is aranged or whatever they think is good, like a main website ideea,creation.

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I have been on this Internet for more then 9-10 years already ive worked (or just helped) 92394933 Company's i dont even remember how many,with this kind of security issues and support,now i am only a CEO Assistant and Head Tech. Support Staff,but i deal with this kind of problems day-by-day,nothing new for me.
I see script kiddo's everyday who tries something "NEW" for them lol,but they dont know this things are old or not excuse me VERY OLD,things that happens and you can't do more then that Computer,because you're not an Robot,you can try all the ways possible you know to take care about an WebServer,but every1 has his own ways,and you are not capable to think the same as others do,so you need to gain a vast experience and very long period over the net,to actually get so much informations about all this,untill you can even do something about them.

"In 2005 an CEO Community,was talking about something like this,how come someone has been so obsessed about "something" ,a copyrighted piece (color/image/text etc.) ,that he endup taking pictures to his own Monitor or even by Scanning his own Monitor." lol.freaky year 2005.

< JaGO
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LOL! i know a very good word for this " Just Like Ever ... Never Say Never" ,indeed you'll never know where is that Angel Face with an Evil Mind, so NO, these rulles should be for all. No Exceptions.

[pshaa.shauna]

LOL! i know a very good word for this " Just Like Ever ... Never Say Never" ,indeed you'll never know where is that Angel Face with an Evil Mind, so NO, these rulles should be for all. No Exceptions.

Wait...I am not saying to not have credits...where on Earth...OH!

I was talking about screenshot protection. Not forgetting credits. So please, do not act like I am ignoring the rules, because I'm not. Mk?

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Oh, I get what you are saying for the © thing now, That is actually a good idea, so people who aren't offical members can see what they can get, without actually being able to take the image.


Good idea.

[technicolour]

Okay....one question.

How can we support/make this happen?

[*mona lisa*]

As in a freebies section? I like this idea because we can provide many graphics for people to use.
We can have different categories I guess..as we have for createblog. For example, stock photography, avatars, banners, signatures, wallpapers, etc.

[pshaa.shauna]

Okay....one question.

How can we support/make this happen?

Hmm, maybe we could make a signature? It's really micron who can make this happen right? He isn't really on that much though.

As in a freebies section? I like this idea because we can provide many graphics for people to use.
We can have different categories I guess..as we have for createblog. For example, stock photography, avatars, banners, signatures, wallpapers, etc.

Yeah exactly.

[technicolour]

CAN I MAKE THE SIG?!


PUHHLEEAASEEE?!

I really dont want to go do my spanish. Yuck. Spanish homework sucks. Double yuck.

[pshaa.shauna]

CAN I MAKE THE SIG?!
PUHHLEEAASEEE?!

I really dont want to go do my spanish. Yuck. Spanish homework sucks. Double yuck.

I'd be honored.

[technicolour]

SAH WEEET!!!

Now whadda ya want on it?


Photoshop is all open...

[Im So Vain]

It's really micron who can make this happen right? He isn't really on that much though.
Yeah exactly.

Yeah that's true, but since this is your idea . Why dont you PM him or something.

[pshaa.shauna]

SAH WEEET!!!

Now whadda ya want on it?
Photoshop is all open...

Hmm, find something uber cool designing looking, and put something like:

Want somethng cool like this?

Support the art design section!

(or if you can think of anything better to do, do it, my idea is kinda crappy!)

[technicolour]

Define: uber cool looking

vexels? uhm...

i'll work at it..

[pshaa.shauna]

That's what I meant with my crappy idea.


What should I say on the pm to micron?

[technicolour]

Uhh...exactly what you said in the beginning.

wow that sounded bitchy..i didn't mean for it to..

but the first post really got my attention...

[Im So Vain]

^yeah and maybe a link to this thread.

[pshaa.shauna]

I sent the pm. (with a link)

What do you think should be the image for the signature?

[technicolour]

It has text on it so far..


i was thinking it would be a small slim one..like the pale punk tan one..

but..i'm gunna make a few versions..cause i'm cool like dat..

and i'm bored as hell

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[pshaa.shauna]

I love the green one!

Your ideas are so much cooler than mine!

[Im So Vain]

I like them too. Nice job ___.

[technicolour]

lol

i do think the green one is the best

god i'm still bored.

[pshaa.shauna]

I put them on the first post!

(you got credit)

[technicolour]

ah credit schmedit.

thanks though.

[YourSuperior]

As in a freebies section? I like this idea because we can provide many graphics for people to use.
We can have different categories I guess..as we have for createblog. For example, stock photography, avatars, banners, signatures, wallpapers, etc.

But what about the credits?

[technicolour]

^ watermarks

I really hate people who make their credits

THIS BIG


it bugs me.

A small yet noticeable watermark is fine.

[EriaNight]

I'm IN!! I just put the greatest-idea-ever-created link in my sig.

(I know. TMS [toomanysmiles]) But I'm sure Kristina understands how totally excited I am. I make avatars and wallpapers 24/7.

...mmmmmolllyyy

[technicolour]

^psh yes.


This idea PWNS!

[pshaa.shauna]

Flattery will get you nowhere!





(here have a cookie! )

[technicolour]

OOoh. I like cookies.


Did you PM micron?

[pshaa.shauna]

OOoh. I like cookies. 
Did you PM micron?

Yes I did, yesterday.

It'll probally be a week or two before he replies.

[technicolour]

ughhh...

I guess i'll keep making banners ...right when i get done with my homework this time..

[Mulder]

kristina this is such a good idea! i put it in my sig.

[technicolour]

^ it wasn't my idea.

but i sure as hell wish it was

it was imjustagirl

props major to her

i'm just teh silly person who makes the banners

[toodlepops.]

Ooh Ooh. I just saw this thread, forgive me.
I really think this is a good idea.

[JoshPgh296]

I agree with it I thinks the idea is sweet! but I only have 6 days left of my Trial of Adobe Photoshop CS2 I need help to get it back anyone know>?

[toodlepops.]

^You can't get it back. You can try downloading another version of Photoshop.
Or better still, buy your self a copy.

[technicolour]

^ Really.

....and did you realize this is like teh completely wrong thread for that shtuff?

Seriously.


Ok. Friday night, i have no life, YESSS for more banners.

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[pshaa.shauna]

I added that signature up there too! I <3 you! You are soo awesome for making these!

[technicolour]

It's no big..really I didn't go to the game..just..oh blah

Besides. I can't find a good pic to vexel.

[br0k3ndr3amsxl3]

YOU PEOPLE ARE GENIUSI [plural of of genius..lol..me & my quirks] but i'm on the brigade!

[pshaa.shauna]

To actually get back on topic on disscussing this, how should it be presented. Like the xanga scripts, or like the layouts on the frontpage? Also, we should have a rule, that you have to save the picture and upload it to your own server, that way it doesn't steal bandwidth. That's just what I think, any more suggestions guys?

[Heathasm]

^^ i think it would be a better idea to have it sort of like when submitting a tutorial and have the image uploaded to the xangans server.

[pshaa.shauna]

^^ yeah that's what I was thinking. But if we get a lot of images, it could make this site run crappy, and more exspensive to keep up for Junsun. So maybe we should make it so they can't use this site as their host?

[technicolour]

You would have to find a pretty decent place to host the things. Xangans runs pretty slow...But hrmph..

I was thinking something along this line.

Icons/Avatars [whatever they're called nowadays]
-Anime
-Emotion[al]
-Nature
-Blah
-Blah
-Blah

Wallpapers
-Blah
-Blah
-Blah
-Blah

etc etc etc

We'd have to come up with pretty broad[sp?] categories.

Celebrities...Nature...Emotional...Uhm. What are the layouts sorted by?

[pshaa.shauna]

Abstract
Anime/Comic
Emotions
Games
Minimal
Miscellanious(sp)
Music
Nature
Objects
Seasonal
TV/ Movies


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Right-o. So people wouldn't be allowed to use xangans as their hosting place, they would have to find their own picture hosting place, which isn't that hard to find. WE could put up a link for the Big Book of Resources, they have a lot of places. Plus, if we have it like the tutorials, it would be easier to put out the credits. (brushes, etc.).

[technicolour]

Well maybe they could download it from the xangans server, but then have to go host it at imageshack or wherever.

no hotlinking.


cause doesn't hotlink make it go really really slow?


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Categories: I think we should sort everything through those categories. Just to keep with the flow of how things work @ Cb...

[toodlepops.]

So, are we having a separate sub-forum for every category? As in a a forum for icons/avatars and sub-forums for their categories (Objects
Seasonal
TV/ Movies)?

[pshaa.shauna]

So, are we having a separate sub-forum for every category? As in a a forum for icons/avatars and sub-forums for their categories (Objects
Seasonal
TV/ Movies)?

You know, you saying that made me think, that's a heck of a lot more forums...

...hmmm

[toodlepops.]

Or maybe there'll be a whole art design forum and sub-forums for icons, wallpapers and stuff?

[technicolour]

That would be way too much clickage. My fingers hurt from all the clicking I do.

..not really but still.


That's a ton of clicking.

Do pretty much what sarah said.

ART DESIGN FORUM >> ICONS >> categories



Hm. That looks good to me. I'm just wondering how they'd look. Cause usually the things have individual threads, and that'd be tons and tons of threads.

I think you could have a cateogory thread. Like a Nature thread!




ohh...that sounds somewhat good to me.


++ And whoever they pick for mods better be good. Or else...I shall show my hacking wratch!

..not really..but I will get pretty dern mad.

[Heathasm]

yeah but if cb is going to offer it then it should be uploaded on a reliable server >_> like its own.

[technicolour]

Trueee..

But what if we disabled hotlinking? Where they could download/copy&paste it and then save it to wherever?

lmao..your avatar cracks me up.

[pshaa.shauna]

I think you could have a cateogory thread.    Like a Nature thread!
ohh...that sounds somewhat good to me.
++ And whoever they pick for mods better be good.  Or else...I shall show my hacking wratch!

..not really..but I will get pretty dern mad.

THat is such a good idea! Make tha categories threads! Then the get looked over like the scripts and tutorials.

And then mods BETTER be good, I'm going to be uber mad if they aren't! Haha, I'll apply for a staff position when I get enough posts.

[Heathasm]

Trueee..

But what if we disabled hotlinking? Where they could download/copy&paste it and then save it to wherever?

lmao..your avatar cracks me up.

muahhhahah

yeah, theres probably a way to disable hotlinking to a certain folder. its just not a good idea to have others host it cause the link will most likely become broken

[technicolour]

THat is such a good idea! Make tha categories threads! Then the get looked over like the scripts and tutorials.

And then mods BETTER be good, I'm going to be uber mad if they aren't! Haha, I'll apply for a staff position when I get enough posts.

I'll apply. I spink i have enough posts.

Heather:
ah true. Didnt think of that.

Your avatar is still making me laugh. No offense but you look like a blowfish. lmao..but that was prolly the point..blah

[Heathasm]

LOL thanks.
yeah i was going for the retarded cross-eyed blowfish thing :)

[technicolour]

you've acheieved.

so back onto subject.

Hotlinking.

Yay or nay?

[pshaa.shauna]

Hmm...I vote yay. It would only be for the signatures and icons anyway. For the wallpapers you don't really need a link for it.

Heather: You signature is so cool! [/spam]

[technicolour]

Ah that's what I was thinking.

yes...her sig is teh bomb. lol

[toodlepops.]

Er. So is this gonna work or not?

[YourSuperior]

^I hope it does. I really want this to happen.

[technicolour]

Last I knew...

Shauna [I'm soo sorry if I spelt that wrong] pm-ed Micron with the idea..So. We dont know...until we hear some type of response.

[YourSuperior]

Last I knew...

Shauna [I'm soo sorry if I spelt that wrong] pm-ed Micron with the idea..So. We dont know...until we hear some type of response.

Good. Maybe he'll check his PM's soon. If this works, maybe all the design staff should be in charge of it. I hope they're still picking more design staff.

[yellowgurl]

ya that would be so cool! I would love to have one! but maybe it should throw in some kinda restriction? Like you can only take as many as you give?

[luvzcha]

I'll love that! Im so gonna submit one!

[technicolour]

ya that would be so cool! I would love to have one! but maybe it should throw in some kinda restriction? Like you can only take as many as you give?

A restriction? Then what would be the purpose then? Some people, i'm going to be a bit blunt, have no artistic-ness in them, so it's just easier to use whatever they can...

I know at least 5 ppl at the moment who are going to give a buttload if this thing ever gets running....I"m one of them.

..But i really dont think a restriction would be a good thing.

and Alvin: We have a design staff?...I prolly knew this but..hm. Psh. If this thing goes through the first i'm gunna be doing is filing out an application to be a mod. This thing has become like my baby. [Shauna, it's yours too. It's your kick butt idea.] I just want to know its being runned in good hands.

[YourSuperior]

A restriction? Then what would be the purpose then? Some people, i'm going to be a bit blunt, have no artistic-ness in them, so it's just easier to use whatever they can...

I know at least 5 ppl at the moment who are going to give a buttload if this thing ever gets running....I"m one of them.

..But i really dont think a restriction would be a good thing.

and Alvin: We have a design staff?...I prolly knew this but..hm. Psh. If this thing goes through the first i'm gunna be doing is filing out an application to be a mod. This thing has become like my baby. [Shauna, it's yours too. It's your kick butt idea.] I just want to know its being runned in good hands.

I wasn't meaning like one design staff by it's self. I was meaning the staff that has to do with designing like Myspace Staff, Xanga Staff, Blogger Staff, and Live Journal Staff.

[technicolour]

But those are like completely different.

We should fight to get our own mods for this..section...

Common people make icons and other shtuff, while those pep's make layouts.

Well. Crap. I do both.

Nevermind....

But i really want good mods for this section.

[pshaa.shauna]

Yes Kristina, that is how you spell my name, and it's my baby too. =)

I haven't heard from micron yet, so we are still stuck in the same spot. =/

But those are like completely different.

We should fight to get our own mods for this..section...

Common people make icons and other shtuff, while those pep's make layouts.

Well. Crap. I do both.

Nevermind....

But i really want good mods for this section.

Same

[technicolour]

urhid;safdua

he needs to check his pm's.

or else i'll start sending dirty ones. ha ha.

I've made a buttload of icons...and i'd like something to happen to them.

[pshaa.shauna]

I don't even know if he has been online to check his pms, and school has started. He's probally busy.

[technicolour]

Oh yeah.

I forgot about that.

Damn school. Roar. But this weekend I have no homework, since of the hurricane.

Funny how that one happened.

But..hm..I shall make more icons I suppose....right when I get done organizing the buttload of brushes sitting on my desktop.

[YourSuperior]

OOh, I have an idea! Like Art Staff or? Art Design Staff!

[technicolour]

^ Sounds jolly to mee.

[YourSuperior]

Or... Roxanne can open back up the design staff?

[*mzkandi*]

^ Design staff isnt something that can just be opened up...you have to already be qualifed for it and preferrably be a lj/myspace/blogger/xanga staff that is promoted to design staff.

[YourSuperior]

^ Design staff isnt something that can just be opened up...you have to already be qualifed for it and preferrably be a lj/myspace/blogger/xanga staff that is promoted to design staff.

Oh ok.

[technicolour]

^ Design staff isnt something that can just be opened up...you have to already be qualifed for it and preferrably be a lj/myspace/blogger/xanga staff that is promoted to design staff.

But what about those that are qualified..just aren't of a staffing position? Shouldn't their work also count?

[YourSuperior]

But what about those that are qualified..just aren't of a staffing position? Shouldn't their work also count?

I was wondering the same thing. Because you can have great skills in all of the journals and not be a mod.

[technicolour]

I was wondering the same thing. Because you can have great skills in all of the journals and not be a mod.

+ it's not just the journals that count. It's their work. Like icons..or wallpapers..the stuff we're planning to put into the categories if this thing goes through.

That reply seemed a bit "bitchy" but I didn't mean for it...it's just..blah

[*mzkandi*]

But what about those that are qualified..just aren't of a staffing position? Shouldn't their work also count?

Once again, take note of the bold

^ Design staff isnt something that can just be opened up...you have to already be qualifed for it and preferrably be a lj/myspace/blogger/xanga staff that is promoted to design staff.

And I dont see a need for a Art Design Staff when a regular Design Staff is capable of supervising it. I do like the idea of Art Design forum....I think it would be great.