New Rule, Introductions Options

[Paradox of Life]

Yes, I think all of my suggestions are usually pieces of crap, but something that really ticks me off is that people copy and paste things in introductions and their post count continues to go up. Isn't that considered spam? I mean, you're just copy and pasting. Isn't that rude as well? Aren't newbies worth your time to write a personal response? I was thinking that maybe there could be a rule against copying and pasting

'Welcome to CB! Have fun!'

on every single topic. I mean look at this:



Within the same 10 minutes you can rack up 11 posts by just copying and pasting an impersonal reply. And this person was so lazy, they copy and pasted SOMEONE ELSE'S welcome on every single topic.

Original (also copy and pasted):

Copy:


Should we just make it so posts don't count in Introductions or just make a rule against copying and pasting responses?

[Daniel Rodriguez]

it kinda ticks me off a little but there just being nice... also you forgot that one chick/guy that says the same exact little paragraph, welcome to cb you need to join a club or something like that

[Paradox of Life]

it kinda ticks me off a little but there just being nice... also you forgot that one chick/guy that says the same exact little paragraph, welcome to cb you need to join a club or something like that 

They're not being nice... Copy and paste responses are just a way to quickly increase your post count. Giving someone a personal response is a lot nicer and it means you actually care about them rather than copy and pasting the same thing for everyone.

And there are a little bit under a dozen people who do this. I don't have time to screenshot them all.

[pshaa.shauna]

I completely agree with you. That really ticks me off. I remeber that same girl (rupertgrint....) and some guy were talking about easy way to rack posts up, and they were talking about how you could just copy and paste message and rack up posts quickly. Besides, it doesn't matter how many posts you have it's the quality. And I don't care if the people are new they are peole and deserve a little more than copy and pasted message [/end]

This should be a rule, I back you 100%

[Eryi]

That's been happening for a while now, we just want to greet them, give them a warm welcome. What else is there to say except, Welcome to createBlog, remember to read the Community guidelines? Obviously the replies are all going to be similar. We don't want LOOOONG conversations in a topic in the Introductions forum, do we? Wouldn't that be spam? But I do agree with you, post counts should not be enabled in that forum.

[Paradox of Life]

That's been happening for a while now, we just want to greet them, give them a warm welcome. What else is there to say except, Welcome to createBlog, remember to read the Community guidelines? Obviously the replies are all going to be similar. We don't want LOOOONG conversations in a topic in the Introductions forum, do we? Wouldn't that be spam? But I do agree with you, post counts should not be enabled in that forum.

How is it a warm welcome when their motives are just to increase their post count? Don't you find that rude? I wouldn't feel welcome if all I got were robotic responses that didn't mean anything. What's the point of writing a little paragraph about myself if no one reads them? When they're just using my topic to increase their posts? Hm...

[whomps]

Copying and pasting the same responses [in introductions] is already against the rules. Let me find it..

[talcumpowder]

PFT! If the rules goes into play, make it for Introductions and Digital Art. Why? Because the same thing happens. What's worse is that you don't even really have to say anything but 'good job' in the Digital Art forum! The replies are almost like spam, and they increase your post count. x.X[/rant]
I'm done now. And yeah... That's wy I don't go into Introductions anymore. I always feel like I'm spamming.
edit// Oh yeah...Eve is right. Huh, can we get the same rule for Digital Art too then? Please...?

[demolished]

Thats true. =D

haha, now we know who to look down at ..

[whomps]

I've warned members for doing it before..

[Daniel Rodriguez]

yeah good work guys I really thing this should happen

[Daniel Rodriguez]

its the same thing with the "what are you listening to" topic cause anyone can go in there and just type a song and raise there count. thats what I did earlier I replied in there like huh 3-4 times

[Eryi]

^Use the edit button, please.

PFT! If the rules goes into play, make it for Introductions and Digital Art. Why? Because the same thing happens. What's worse is that you don't even really have to say anything but 'good job' in the Digital Art forum! The replies are almost like spam, and they increase your post count. x.X[/rant]
I'm done now. And yeah... That's wy I don't go into Introductions anymore. I always feel like I'm spamming.
edit// Oh yeah...Eve is right. Huh, can we get the same rule for Digital Art too then? Please...?

I thought of that too! I agree with you. I just never brought it up.

[talcumpowder]

Yay for nice people who agree with Reiri! -glomp-
And while we're on this, can we have Digital art rules? Please..... Because everything else has rules. Xanga Showcase has rules now.

[*incoherent*]

i dont see anything wrong with it...not much can be expected since there really isnt much to say besides hi, welcome, have fun posting, read the guidelines...i mean theres not much else to say. if you dont want people saying that then make it so that people cant reply because youre limited to what you can say. its not like you need to type a whole paragraph to get to know them. use a p/m.

[*xcaitlinx*]

i always thought that "what are you listening to" should be in forum games. (i hope a head staff/admin sees this..) and i think it'd be a good idea if posts in introductions didn't add to your post count.

[Spirited Away]

i dont see anything wrong with it...not much can be expected since there really isnt much to say besides hi, welcome, have fun posting, read the guidelines...i mean theres not much else to say. if you dont want people saying that then make it so that people cant reply because youre limited to what you can say. its not like you need to type a whole paragraph to get to know them. use a p/m.

Actually, if you'd read my post in this thread (the 3rd) and this (the fourth)... I mean, it's not that hard to say something more than "welcome, read the rules".

I don't see a point in welcoming someone, when you don't mean it.

And the point of this isn't to limit what a person can say to welcome another, the point of this is that too many people are copying and pasting their welcomes, which defeats the purpose. I was in a thread where people were welcoming a person while not realizing that the dude was a long time member and was coming back to the forum. The guy says "I was here before but now I'm back" in plain words. The least people could say was "welcome back" instead of the mundane "welcome read the rules".

[ichigofan]

Yea I suppose it gets annoying because people like that begin to think that their cB'ers have the right to choose to read/ not read peoples posts

[xenosaga]

Should we just make it so posts don't count in Introductions or just make a rule against copying and pasting responses?

I agree to this, since the people only say,"welcome to Cb have fun" blah blah blah....

Hmm..but introductions is the first chance for newbies to get their first couple of posts in.

I know this should be the first opportunity, only if we can disable the people who already has been on CB for a while, so they won't spam, but this would be strange

[whomps]

i always thought that "what are you listening to" should be in forum games. (i hope a head staff/admin sees this..) and i think it'd be a good idea if posts in introductions didn't add to your post count.

Why ?

[*mzkandi*]

I just now found this. Actually someone else made this topic but it disappeared. Anyways, yes I think if your going to go into Introductions at least make effort of saying a little different to make it a more personal welcome.

[*mzkandi*]

damn double post...

[Jane Doe.]

hmm. although I know I haven't been around for long, and will probably have stones thrown at me, ..

I understand that the copying and pasting is just wrong. its one thing to try and be friendly, and welcoming..its another to do it because of post count

although I see it okay for a moderator to copy and paste [with some editing of it, of course]... why? because it is in the moderators place to do this..they have been chosen to be a moderator for specific qualities, and why the hell should one care for such petty things such as post count?
mod=job.
maybe I trust moderators too much, who knows.

I agree on you, that is annoying. and I've never seen a reply actually copied from someone else..jesus.

there is not really much you can tell a new member, is there? read the rules, tell us more about yourself, or just pick something from what they've posted, and show that you've read their intro.

since the only limitation is making the posts not count in that forum..and since its bothersome..ok..I agree?

and..how about [ahaha, hate me now] the Admins lower members post counts who have been obviously spamming, ..and for it be option, as opposed to the paddle..

[and warning members, restrictions, PMing them..]

well..look at me, I've rambled.
great.

[*mipadi*]

I do a lot of work on the Wikipedia. On new members' talk pages, many people (including myself, from time to time), post this: {{subst:welcome}}. For anyone not familiar with Wiki code, that's a piece of code that automatically copies in a pre-set piece of welcome text. It gives the user a nice greeting and provides some handy links to help pages. I got one such message when I joined, and even though it was impersonal, I still found it very helpful, and appreciated the fact that someone took the time to post it at all.

Of course, some Wikipedians argue that it should never be used--a personal greeting is more welcoming and should always be used in place of pre-determined text. A counter-argument is that this pre-set text provides all new users with the same set of links to helpful services.

The point is that copying/pasting welcome text isn't always a bad thing. If it's good text (i.e., it links to some helpful topics, provides some useful information for new users, and so forth), it can be very helpful, even if it is a bit impersonal and ubiquitous. Of course, copying/pasting something like "Hi! Welcome to cB!" is completely non-productive, and users guilty of over-doing that perhaps should be warned by a mod or admin.

[Aestuarium]

yeah, they should add introductions to the list of forums that don't count

[pshaa.shauna]

Yes because now people are BUMPING old intros to get post counts! This must be stopped

[*incoherent*]

Actually, if you'd read my post in this thread (the 3rd) and this (the fourth)... I mean, it's not that hard to say something more than "welcome, read the rules".

I don't see a point in welcoming someone, when you don't mean it.

And the point of this isn't to limit what a person can say to welcome another, the point of this is that too many people are copying and pasting their welcomes, which defeats the purpose. I was in a thread where people were welcoming a person while not realizing that the dude was a long time member and was coming back to the forum. The guy says "I was here before but now I'm back" in plain words. The least people could say was "welcome back" instead of the mundane "welcome read the rules".

i get what you're saying. i mean i see whats wrong with that, but what that rupert girl is doing is getting old. shes bumping really old topics, and i had already p/med stephinika about it because its not giving other newbies a chance.

[toodlepops.]

Okay, yes. It kind of ticks me off. But is there anything we can actually do about it?
I mean, we can't just ban people from copying and pasting.

[*autumn.*]

Okay, yes. It kind of ticks me off. But is there anything we can actually do about it?
I mean, we can't just ban people from copying and pasting.

no, but we (by we i mean the mods) can warn them for it.

[Chii]

yeah, they should add introductions to the list of forums that don't count

i agree, that way, people will welcome new people because they want to, not because they can get an easy access to be an official member and mooch off of the resources.

[gelionie]

Or maybe the introduction topics are older than one week should be closed? That would prevent people from bumping up old intro topics to add post count.

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

I think the posts should still count but disable the copy and pasting!
---
Ah yes, I agree with Winnie. Old topics should not be brought up from the dead just to raise post count

[*tweeak*]

[james]it's against the rules. its stopped when it's when it's blatnat. n omore can be done. you cant actually STOP people doing it. actually introducing something beyond what eve has said is in place is a pointless excercise in rule maKING FO RNO REAL REASON [/JAMES]

[Paradox of Life]

[james]it's against the rules. its stopped when it's when it's blatnat. n omore can be done. you cant actually STOP people doing it. actually introducing something beyond what eve has said is in place is a pointless excercise in rule maKING FO RNO REAL REASON [/JAMES]

You can warn them for doing it. There's no way to stop them completely, but warning them could help.

[Spirited Away]

[james]it's against the rules. its stopped when it's when it's blatnat. n omore can be done. you cant actually STOP people doing it. actually introducing something beyond what eve has said is in place is a pointless excercise in rule maKING FO RNO REAL REASON [/JAMES]

I can't understand anything except for ' you can't actually stop people doing it'. Though we can't stop them, I guess I was hoping that we can prevent their lazy, fake welcomes by not letting their post count go up?

[pshaa.shauna]

Is there a way we could report the copy and patsed(sp maybe?) posts, and then a mod could remove it, or take away the post count received from it?

Or maybe the introduction topics are older than one week should be closed? That would prevent people from bumping up old intro topics to add post count.

That's a good idea, to at least stop the bumping part.

Maybe we could just warn the eprson, like 3 strikes you're out? The third time caught you get suspened for a week or something along those lines? Just a thought...

[heyyfrankie]

yeah. it's already against the rules becase duplicate posts are considered spam. and that is why i barelyyyyyyy post in introductions. due to the repeatativeness of it all. =-=;;;

[*xcaitlinx*]

Why ?

Why what? well, if you're talking about the "what are you listening to", then i meant that it should be in forum games and not count towards your post count because people (like me) constantly post in it, and you can basically get your post count up by saying what you're listening to every minute.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well Cayte, perhaps you shouldn't constantly post in it and venture elsewhere on the site more often.

[Spirited Away]

To elaborate on this..this is part of what I posted in the "What does your shirt say right now" thread.
Basically..if "What does your shirt say right now" belongs in forum games, then so do games like the ones I stated above.

But personally, I don't think any of them are games. They have no plot, it's not entertaining..it's not interesting.

*raises hand* that was me.

Sorry about that. A lot few of the games in the games section isn't very entertaining nor interesting but we deal with them all the same. When I ventured into the "what does your shirt says" topic and saw the topic starter say "Lets all see how long this post will last. lets keep it going", I only thought, sounds like a game and what a way to invite a bunch of short answers that'll boost up people's post count. I completely forgot about topics like it. Anyway, it will be moved back eventually.

But you know, wouldn't the current weather game belong elsewhere, too?

[*xcaitlinx*]

Well Cayte, perhaps you shouldn't constantly post in it and venture elsewhere on the site more often.

I do. But when I'm posting in that thread, it's not to get my post count up. But other people, especially ones that just joined, may take it as an opprotunity (sp??) to get theirs up so that they can become an official member, designer, etc.

[heyyfrankie]

^ as long as the replies aren't spam & they are contributing to the topic, there's nothing wrong with it.

some people do that in the debate forum. like a newbie comes and they make a topic in debate about...oh, idk...GOD. so she makes this topic making her post count equal 1. then she REALLY gets into the debate replies a whole bunch of times commenting on what others have said, bringing up new points and what-not. yeah, they could get 50 posts in one thread. ;\

[*xcaitlinx*]

^ as long as the replies aren't spam & they are contributing to the topic, there's nothing wrong with it.

some people do that in the debate forum. like a newbie comes and they make a topic in debate about...oh, idk...GOD. so she makes this topic making her post count equal 1. then she REALLY gets into the debate replies a whole bunch of times commenting on what others have said, bringing up new points and what-not. yeah, they could get 50 posts in one thread. ;\

that's true. but atleast they are creating sentences worth of responses and not just "Fallout Boy - Grand Theft Autumn". The "what are you listening to" topic isn't for discussing anything, it's simply for posting what you're listening to at the moment. I doubt that all of the cB members read through each page of the topic. that would be silly, nonetheless. Especially since there's a new page in the topic every 5 minutes.

[BrokenDream]

what really bugs me is the copying and pasting. yeah.

it's a good thing that I post different words on every introduction I have ever done before. but, it's just a introduction. you may be stealing an introduction from someone else, but it's JUST an introduction.

the post will expire and then move on to the next post.

[*Azarel*]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...posts&highlite=

Nigga what?

/end irrelevant.

[yummy_delight]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...posts&highlite=
Nigga what?
/end irrelevant.

WOW. I told her to stop doing that, but she refuses. She's quite pleased with herself.

[heyyfrankie]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...posts&highlite=

Nigga what?

/end irrelevant.

oh hell now. that is just rediculous! sorry but she's getting warned. no verbal this time. ;x

[Paradox of Life]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...posts&highlite=

Nigga what?

/end irrelevant.

Yeah... Jeez.. how rude.. I see her on literally every single introduction topic.

[heyyfrankie]

uh...i just counted it up the GRAND TOTAL and for today, she made 21 of the same posts but through a few days, she has made over 65 of the same posts. uh uh...NOT COOL.

[Chii]

is what i do spam?

i write the same thing in the beginning and end of my post but the middle is always custom...but it's never really that long =/

[heyyfrankie]

^ if you change it, than no; it's not spamming. but that other person was literally posting the SAME EXACT thing. =_=;

[demolished]

Afterall, do we need introduction staff ?

[KissMe2408]

Should we just make it so posts don't count in Introductions or just make a rule against copying and pasting responses?

First, It's a good thing posts do count in introductions. It nudges people that normally wouldn't, to try posting in the introduction section. Tho it always has bugged me when people copy and paste in the introduction section just to get their post count up. But not too many people do that, About 80% of them are personal. Right now there isn't a rule about copying and pasting in the introduction section, but i guess it is frowned upon. It's when people abuse the copy and paste (like you showed in your examples) and when that happens then you give them a warning, cuz maybe they don't think they are doing wrong. You gotta atleast tell them first. There are only a few people here and there that do that, and most of them are new to this site. I wouldn't worry about it too much, but like i said, if someone does go overboard then just tell them to stop. Most of them will.
I would say copying & pasting in the intro section is like Spamming's cousin. lol you can make them both rules and all...but i mean there is Always going to be someone breaking those rules, so just deal when it comes up :)

[Rachel]

First, It's a good thing posts do count in introductions. It nudges people that normally wouldn't, to try posting in the introduction section.

The only reason most people post in introductions is to boost their post count. They don't care about welcoming new members, they just want their post # to be higher.

[silent whisper]

oh i just thought of something coming to this subject.. yeah you know it the staff postitions for people staff well i'll quote it--

People Staff: Are you a people person? Then this is a job for you! Responsibilities include moderating the community center, welcoming newbies, making interesting topics, and being nice and helpful in general.

so keep in mind, welcoming newbies is part of the "people staff" position.

but so we don't consider our staff members, making spam or anybody else, i agree with the post count, on the other hand when a newbie first gets to make a post about thereselfs, its like there first post (if you get what i mean) anyways i hope i contributed to this in a good way.

[whomps]

Afterall, do we need introduction staff ?

Absolutely not.

[*Azarel*]

Nothing was eever implemented, and well, I'm bumping it because of this lovely person.

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...sult_type=posts

[*Azarel*]

But doesn't it up PPDs? :\

[*mona lisa*]

Does it really up your PPD? Didn't know that since posting in Sandbox doesn't up your post count or up your PPD.

As Robbi said though, your post counts aren't increased in Introductions.

[demolished]

then ... it's okay ;] let them spam in introduction. it's a way to welcome newbies. LOL.

[*Azarel*]

Does it really up your PPD? Didn't know that since posting in Sandbox doesn't up your post count or up your PPD.

I thought it did. ._. But then again, I also thought that posting in the sandbox upped your ppd. Posting back in forum games did, so I just assumed.. which is stupid, but I did anyway because it was reasonable to.

[Selv]

A lot of you are saying that people post in the introductions just to get their posts up... FYI it doesnt put your posts up nor does it up your PPD i do it every day just to welcome new members because when i got it.... every reply meant the world to me. It relaly makes you feel welcome

[*Zatanna*]

^ It used to affect PPD. I think some of the replies here predate that change. :)

[jumpropeforheart]

not that this has to do with introductions, but i dont think people should be allowed to be bumping over a month old topics in xanga showcase especially since people probably have changed their layout. Quarantine. for example.

[Tung]

ROFL. Good TIMEs. Good Times. LMAO.

[dustbunny]

^

WAY TO GO TUNG

all my posts are legit.

[*Podomaht*]

take out the introductions. we don't need them.

-edit

oh shit i just realized

the introductions can be awesome for hazing new members.

[S-Majere]

'Hazing' isn't really going to get Createblog popularity points, is it? It's easy to be an a.sshole from behind a keyboard.

Introductions are always useful - if only for new members that post there. I think there's a lot of good that comes out of being welcomed *respectfully* into an online community. If most new members didn't know that the complete bastards hanging around here are all socially inept twelve year olds, then it would put a lot of newbies off coming here. And it does.

[*Podomaht*]

'Hazing' isn't really going to get Createblog popularity points, is it? It's easy to be an a.sshole from behind a keyboard.

Introductions are always useful - if only for new members that post there. I think there's a lot of good that comes out of being welcomed *respectfully* into an online community. If most new members didn't know that the complete bastards hanging around here are all socially inept twelve year olds, then it would put a lot of newbies off coming here. And it does.

too bad i'm not going for the popularity contest, -edit-

No Member bashing, Podo!
-Kara (alovesopure)

[S-Majere]

You rather unfortunately proved my point.

Createblog in itself is a well-respected website. It is the reputation of CB that suffers as a result of members having little respect for others.

That's it for replying to this topic. No doubt you'll find something absolutely hilarious to reply with. I won't be.

[*IVIike*]

People get in trouble if they just copy and paste... if they are genuine replays then I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't understand the whole fascination with high post counts anyway