digital art topics... IN the digital art forum??!? Options

[delphi]

so ive been wondering about this for a while now.. but why do all the digital art help topics go in webdesign chat? digital art has nothing to do with webdesign. the web is just one medium for it. and we HAVE a digital art forum, so why are the Photoshop questions still going in webdesign?

and why is the digital art forum in the webmasters corner category? a lot of people use digital art OFF the web. that was it's original intent - printing, advertising, etc.

[Heathasm]

digital art has nothing to do with web design...? digital art is a bigg part of web DESIGN...what do you think it is?

the digital art forum is for showcasing purposes only.

i think that its under webmaster's corner because a webmaster would know about digital art, programing, and webdesign

[delphi]

web design and digital art are two completely different things. yes the majority of webdesigners have some knowledge of digital art, but that doesnt mean they always use it. digital art isnt what makes a website. in fact, sometimes you are requested to use a minimal amount of graphics.

digital art is used more in printing and advertising than website design, believe it or not.

in saying that.. yes i know what webdesign is. i know what digital art is. i know the difference between the two as well.

the digital art forum is for showcasing purposes only.

but WHY? if you have digital art questions, then why not put them in the forum entitled "digital art?"

what if what you're doing has nothing to do with website design? i could be making a poster.. a tshirt design.. a brochure. theres more to digital art than website vectors and blends.

why not have that forum dedicated entirely to digital art, in all it's aspects, including discussion and help, and then have a digital art showcase subforum WITHIN it?

[technicolour]

So you want a "help" forum that goes w/ the digital art forum?

All photoshop questions are immediately directed to webdesign.

There wouldn't be much of a webdesign then..

[delphi]

you guys are really missing the point, arent you?

there is more to digital art than website design. they fall under two different categories. when you can make a vector in dreamweaver, then we'll talk.


think about it this way then, if you're going to use that kind of logic:

to be a webdesigner you MUST know how to program, as opposed to having digital art knowledge, which is optional. so why is there a separate forum for programming and a separate forum for webdesign?

and why have a webdesign chat forum for discussion and help and then have a website forum were the xanga/blogger forums are?

do you see how inconsistant it is?

you have xanga help and blogger help, and then you have webdesign help split into two categories; programming and webdesign, and not even in the web design forum. then you have the digital art forum, but no actual discussion inside it, just showcasing. however, you have a xanga showcase, blogger showcase, myspace showcase, lj showcase and website showcase, ASIDE from xanga help, myspace help, et. al.

[Heathasm]

web design isnt coding. web design is the graphics/art that make up the site.

i like your suggestion about putting a subforum in webdesign for digital art, though and maybe moving programming under websites

[delphi]

no. webdesign is not the graphics and art that make up the site. not all sites even have art in them. webdesign is the actual making of the site. i didnt say webdesign is coding, i said u need coding for webdesign. but you dont need digital art - it just gives you an advantage.

but your logic is that since you "need" digital art (which you dont) for webdesign, then all digital art questions should fall under webdesign chat, rather than digital art. however you NEED programming in order to develop a website, and yet you still have a separate forum for that.

and i did not suggest you make digital art a subforum in webdesign. i said you should get RID of the webmasters corner category, put the programming and website chat INSIDE the website forum where xanga and blogger are and put the digital art forum UNDER the rest of those forums, WITH a subforum for digital art showcase.


so it would look like this:

blogger
livejornal
myspace
website

• website help (including programming help)
• website showcase
• then the website templates

xanga
digital art

• digital art showcase
• then the digital art help/discussion- doesnt have to be a subforum

tutorials


etc. no webmaster's corner

[chinke3xcuti3]

Cb has put the forums that way, so stop complaining. It's something like this:

webdesign-for questions regarding designing on any program
digital art-showing off your work (vectors, animations, etc.)

now shut up..you're starting to bug me...

yes, this is kind of like spam, sorry...

[delphi]

i know how cb has it currently, idiot. i'm saying it should be changed because it makes no sense and it isnt consistant with the rest of the forum, and if it bugs you so much then dont freaking read it.

[chinke3xcuti3]

i know how cb has it currently, idiot. i'm saying it should be changed because it makes no sense and it isnt consistant with the rest of the forum, and if it bugs you so much then dont freaking read it.

^First off, I'm not an idiot. I have no problem with moving them around, but moving them around, AND make new forums.

If you make new forums, it is going to complicate some things:

-People who not know the difference between the digital art help, and the webdesign help, and will put their topics just anywhere, and mods will have to keep moving them back and forth.
-Mods will have to get use to know where to move all the topics

If you make new forums, then some other forums will be left alone, and there won't be new topics MADE in that forum.

I know it will make it more organized, but it will complicate more things.

[delphi]

People who not know the difference between the digital art help, and the webdesign help, and will put their topics just anywhere, and mods will have to keep moving them back and forth.

rofl, they do that ANYWAY. people are always putting programming and xanga topics in webdesign chat. at least by splitting up webdesign and digital art, theyll LEARN the difference between the two. so what if it takes a little time getting used to? at least itd make sense and be more consistant. all changes will take time to get used to. obviously. you think they cared about how fast the members would catch on to where things were when they implemented cb2? no. but they did it for the better, and it worked out, didnt it?

Mods will have to get use to know where to move all the topics

oh like that's so hard. hmm oh no who would have guessed that a digital art topic goes into the digital art FORUM? HMM.

not exactly rocket science here.

If you make new forums, then some other forums will be left alone, and there won't be new topics MADE in that forum.

um wtf are you talking about? most of these forums already EXIST, im just saying to move them to their more appropriate categories.

[Heathasm]

no. webdesign is not the graphics and art that make up the site. not all sites even have art in them. webdesign is the actual making of the site. i didnt say webdesign is coding, i said u need coding for webdesign. but you dont need digital art - it just gives you an advantage.

if web design isnt coding, and its not hte graphics, then what is it? ...trust me i know what im talking about. i know that not all sites have some big design, but they do have some and they have some sort of creative inspiration. the forum isn't going to be renamed "digital art help". it may be just a waste of time to get rid of the web masters corner though...i like how its all out there and not burried away as subforums now that i think about it

[*disco infiltrator*]

Er, dude(tte), there's no reason to catch an attitude.

This entire message board is based on webdesign. Most, if not all of the digital art topics are about digital art in webdesign. So..there would be no need for that. Or the Webdesign forum wouldn't even be there.

I mean, the site's called Createblog. Not Createbillboard or Createt-shirt.

[whomps]

To create traffic in Webmasters' Corner.

[*mipadi*]

web design isnt coding. web design is the graphics/art that make up the site.

Web design deals with coding. Web design includes things such as markup (HTML/XHTML), coding (PHP, ASP, etc.), necessary graphics, layout, and so forth--basically, anything that has to do with a site besides the content itself.

To address the main issue of this thread, I think that changing names/reorganizing would be getting a bit picky. The names might not be perfect, but most people seem to understand the general gist of the section. It can be pointed out that calling the section for HTML, JavaScript, and CSS "Programming" is not appropriate either, since HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, ASP, and most other web technologies (save for Java) are not actually programming languages--but the general point of the section is still communicated.

[delphi]

webdesign, to my understanding, is how each component of a site comes together in structure. its not coding. and it's not graphics. its HOW you bring everything together to make a website. coding and graphics are merely components of that.

in response to headphones.. ok i'll give you that. you're right. it's createBLOG. and most of the digital art displayed here is for websites. so why have a digital art forum at all? why not just put it all in the website forum if that's your logic?

and why do we have webmasters corner AND a website forum up top? You moved xanga help, xanga scripts, and xanga skins into the Xanga forum, and the same with all the blogger forums. if you moved those, why didnt you move the webmasters corner's forums into the website forum? why do you have a digital art forum if you cant ask digital art questions in them?

it doesnt make SENSE.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well that's been discussed more than once already. We had decided that Website help & such would just stay in the Webdesign forum.

The digital art displayed in the Digital Art forum isn't always used on websites. It's just a hobby. People just want to display their work. Kinda like a community portfolio. Just as there's Xanga, Myspace, LJ, etc. showcases, there's a Digital Art showcase.

[delphi]

The digital art displayed in the Digital Art forum isn't always used on websites. It's just a hobby. People just want to display their work. Kinda like a community portfolio. Just as there's Xanga, Myspace, LJ, etc. showcases, there's a Digital Art showcase.

that's exactly my point...not all digital art is always used on websites. so why are we still putting the digital art help topics in webdesign help? just like theres xanga help, myspace help, lj help, etc, there should be a digital art help.

this twisted logic is driving me insanneee

[lovescream]

Because Digital art is for showcasing and showing off your work.
Digital art falls under webdesign as well as coding and making a site.

>_> I think this has been said before.

[Gigi]

To create traffic in Webmasters' Corner.

I'm curious as to why everything has to make sense based on technicalities, while Eve brings up an excellent point that makes sense on logic.

[delphi]

do you guys read before posting? because i think i've made it one of my points that there shouldnt even be a webmasters corner if theres already a Website forum up on the top, because it isnt consistant with the rest of the forum.

if someone were new to the forum, do you think itd make sense to them to not put the digital art help topics in the digital art forum?

Digital art falls under webdesign as well as coding and making a site.

and as said many times before; digital art is used for things OTHER than webdesign as well.

even headphones has stated this.

The digital art displayed in the Digital Art forum isn't always used on websites. It's just a hobby. People just want to display their work. Kinda like a community portfolio. Just as there's Xanga, Myspace, LJ, etc. showcases, there's a Digital Art showcase.

right - it is a hobby, or for some people, a profession. and any professional will tell you that this system is completely screwed up.

xanga, myspace, blogger and lj help all technically fall under website help, because whether you're talking about css or html, it's all WEBSITE coding related. but it makes sense to split them up into their own groups and give them their own help subforums, because for users browsing the forum, it's easier to find something if everything is categorized into their APPROPRIATE places.

if i were new to the forum and had a digital art question.. do you know where'd i go first? the digital art forum. why? because i have a digital art question. i dont have a webdesigning question. i just wanna know how to vector, and for my own personal use. i dont have a website, and i dont want to use my vector for the web. i wanna print it out and stick it on my wall. so tell me why i should goto the webdesign forum rather than the digital art forum.

[*disco infiltrator*]

There's a very limited number of people on Createblog who get money for their designs. Therefore, we would not make it towards that spectrum.

[whomps]

I'm curious as to why everything has to make sense based on technicalities, while Eve brings up an excellent point that makes sense on logic.

And yet nobody sees it.

[delphi]

ive responded to that twice now.

There's a very limited number of people on Createblog who get money for their designs. Therefore, we would not make it towards that spectrum.

do you read selectively?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Do you?

Why would we cater to people who don't use the site?

[delphi]

i dunno. why do you help people in the homework subforum?

[lbjshaq2345]

ok i like one idea more stuff for websites (help) cuz we really dont have anything but like 8 skins and tons of ppl showcasing woohoo big help there

[whomps]

ive responded to that twice now.
do you read selectively?

Your quote.. I can't see how it responds to what I said.

[delphi]

my point was that there should be no webmasters corner to begin with, if theres already a website forum up top. i've said that four times now.