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post Jul 20 2005, 06:02 AM
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cry.gif okay i have this friend that smokes but i spend hours on the phone talking to her to stop smoking but she doesn't listen she said its permited...she only smokes when shes upset and shes upset a lot...she never listens and i love her to death but she won't listen to me..please help =[
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 06:16 AM
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u can try and tell her how much u love and care for her, and that she doing that is hurting u badly. or if u want it da hard way..
threaten to end ur friendship if she doesnt stop..
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(icy_wonderland @ Jul 20 2005, 7:16 AM)
threaten to end ur friendship if she doesnt stop..
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It's stupid to end a perfectly good friendship over something like smoking, and it's definitely not cool to use a threat of ending a relationship as a bargaining chip in any dispute.

I think your best bet is to just sit down and talk to her, tell her that smoking is bad for her health, and that it is in her best interest to stop. Just show her that you are concerned for her as a friend, and you're not angry or disappointed in her, but worried about her health.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 11:16 AM
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threatening to end it is the stupidest idea i've ever heard.

you can never say anything like that until you understand her situation. just like cutting--some people threaten to end the friendship if the friend continues cutting but they have no idea about the release of tension from it.

you just can't say anything that biased about something--it's very unfair. so, okay, if she's upset, she smokes. we all do something when we're upset. some people it's cutting, some it's sleeping, some it's crying, and others it's smoking.

just ask her to try and limit herself, but don't stop her completely. she'll hate you for it. ermm.gif
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 11:32 AM
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... Let her smoke. It's her effing choice. Stop forcing your opinion on her. You're not being a good friend by not respecting her opinions. If smoking helps her, so be it.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 12:44 PM
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INTERVENTION mwhahahahahahah......

well that may be a BIT extreme, but like yea tell her how you feel about her and you care about her and that you're worried for her health ><
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 01:57 PM
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Well. there's Intervention [already been mentioned], cold turkey, or

COMMUNICATION

Talk to her. Tell her how it bugs you. Communicate.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 01:59 PM
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Question: Is that "communicate" in big, bold letters always on your clipboard, or do you have the markup saved as a text file somewhere?
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:14 PM
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Nah. I rewrite it and make it big all the time. Some people can't grasp the faboulas art of communication.
 
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You should save it as a text file so you can just copy/paste.

Or better yet, get the admins to make a PHP function...say, something like "show_communication()" and then you can just include a BB code tag that will call that PHP function...
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:17 PM
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I was thinking of just writing a whole thread about communication and begging a mod or someone to pin it. Everytime i say communication it would be huge.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:17 PM
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haha i say let them smoke or go out and rent some movies about people who smoke with those bad voices and all that stuff --- just let her see it :)
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:24 PM
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track down some of those old 'smoking is bad' movies and worksheets from old health classes... if she doesnt listen then just let her smoke. just dont say "i told you so" when she gets cancer or something.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 02:47 PM
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you cant really do anything about it, if you have already talked to her about it, and she seems to pay you no mind. maybe you should take a break and stop talkin` to her for a while, and see if she really cares about your friendship she`ll come back to you, or stop smokin`. the outcome may not be what you want it to be, but truth hurts.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 07:28 PM
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try talking to her and if it doesnt work just respect their choices.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(teeners__15 @ Jul 20 2005, 9:44 AM)
INTERVENTION mwhahahahahahah......

well that may be a BIT extreme, but like yea tell her how you feel about her and you care about her and that you're worried for her health ><
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I agree.

If she still doesn't listen after that, leave her alone. She obviusly won't change her opinion because of you if she hasn't after youv'e tried to persuade her many times.

You have to let her realize that smoking is bad for her health, aditude, and depression all by herself.

She obviously doens't want to listen to anyone else telling her that.
 
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post Jul 20 2005, 08:43 PM
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you can just let her smoke...she is old enough to make her decisions..evern though you know this will effect her badly...let her make her own mistakes
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 12:14 PM
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I hate when some of the people I hang out with smoke...the people who do smoke I don't really talk to them much!!...soOo I wouldn't know about a person you love smoking, but my Mom...& I love her & I want her to stop too...& if the only way yur friend will stop is by stop stressing...do something special for her that'll make her feel relaxed & comfortable..& get her to call a quit smoking hotline or explain to her everything that could happen..Tell her you could die from second-hand smoke too..Ask her how she would feel if she was responsible for your death!!...& if she gets upset about all this tell her your sorry, but you care for her way to much to see her puff away her life like it's nothing...cause it's not nothing it's something to you & you want to be something to her... _unsure.gif
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 01:21 PM
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there's nothing you can do. it's her decision. just tell her to talk to someone or a doctor.
but let it be known: smoking is hard habit to break. ermm.gif
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 09:22 PM
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Let her smoke. once she finds out she got cancer, then she will regret it all. let her live her life and make her live through her mistakes
 
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post Jul 21 2005, 09:25 PM
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smoking is bad?
i didnt know that mellow.gif
 
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post Jul 23 2005, 01:38 AM
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you get her on a 3-way phone call with people as practical as yourself and all yammer on at once about how it's bad with lots of advrbs untl you hit a nreve. at the very least, it's fun
 
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post Jul 23 2005, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(airam @ Jul 21 2005, 9:25 PM)
smoking is bad?
i didnt know that mellow.gif
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wth.... okay, idk what to say if your friend wont listen to you... sadly he/she is slowy killing herself with smoke _unsure.gif
 
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post Jul 24 2005, 02:27 AM
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Do research and watch some viedos.

take notes and prepare to make statements

encourage your friends with your statements.
Show some life to life viedos.
 
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post Jul 24 2005, 04:25 PM
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Tell her that smoking kills, and you don't want to see her chances of living a long and happy life go to waste. Then give her some statistics, or better, give her the shock effect. Actually SHOW her pictures of what happens to you when you smoke..

And if it doesn't work, seek help. There are tons of hotlines out there that'll help you.
 
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post Jul 24 2005, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(OiIshTommy @ Jul 20 2005, 3:02 AM)
cry.gif okay i have this friend that smokes but i spend hours on the phone talking to her to stop smoking but she doesn't listen she said its permited...she only smokes when shes upset and shes upset a lot...she never listens and i love her to death but she won't listen to me..please help =[
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smokers are gross...and it's true what they say...Kiss a smoker is like licking an ash tray...and trust me...don't try. Not fun
 
post Jul 25 2005, 03:27 AM
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im sorry, from my view i can only see two choices
either communicate or threat her

but, threating is a really bad idea, she might take it seriously then u lose a friend

in the end, u still have to communicate better with her right?
i know its hard...just keep trying, dont give up
 
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post Jul 25 2005, 02:10 PM
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talk it out with her. mellow.gif tell her what smoking does to her. try to cheer her up.be a good friend and tell her that smoking isnt gonna help. _dry.gif it never does.besides its bad 4 you stubborn.gif
 
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post Jul 25 2005, 09:35 PM
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express your caring for her...
but dont force her to do anything.
 
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post Jul 28 2005, 12:39 AM
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what do you think it says....if so obvious.
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i agree with everyone else ......its kinda usless to ask the guy or whatever to quit smoking ....it would either cause the problem to go worse ....or even break your friendship ....and just for smoking ?? .....well i can tell you that one of my best friends smoke ....and were still good friends ....but that doesnt mean i smoke .... i hate smoking ....especially ruining these vocal chords rolleyes.gif .....?
 
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post Jul 28 2005, 02:33 PM
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obviously theyre doing it because they want to.
you shouldnt try to stop them, itll only make the situation worse
 
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post Jul 28 2005, 02:53 PM
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Well..

1. It's their choice. When they're lying in a hospital bed with cancer say, "Wellll, it was your choice ya know."
2. It she smokes because she has depression.. or she gets "upset".. why are you worrying about her smoking?? Give her better advice and tell her to take some depression medication. Maybe then she might stop smoking because she finds the depression meds make her feel better anyways.

I think that should solve it.
 
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post Aug 10 2005, 10:56 PM
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if all else fails, begin looking for a new girl 2 hang out with.
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:04 AM
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I'm going to tell you what she's proabbly thinking.
I'm in your friends situation.
One of my really good friends has been bugging me
to quit. I've tried. I really have. It's addicting. I
love her to death and would never want us to not
be friends. I get irratated when she digs it into my
skull that i shouldn't. I'm not retarted. I know what
it does to me. I've cut down alot. I think I'm almost
to my quitting point. It's taking me almost one year
to just smoke like 1/2 times a day. It takes time. Don't
threaten her. Don't try and stress her out much. Thats
when i start again. When I stress. Some things I would
want my friends to say to me is. I just want you to stop.
I love you and I don't want somthing bad to happen to you.
I'll be there for you no matter what. Not. Stop or our friendship
is over. Your stupid for doing that. why do you do that stop.
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:12 AM
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tell herhow you feel, but give her time... quitting is gonna be hard so don't pressure her too much. that might make it worse...

as for the intervention idea, those suck. my friends did that to me (but it wasn't about smoking...) and it just caused a relapse...
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 05:14 AM
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i know what you mean, it's hard to watch good friends, at first they just do it to act cool, thinking they can quit whenever they want, but they just keep doing it until they are up to a pack a day, and they can't stop anymore.

I have 3 friends that it has happened to, makes me sad
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 06:23 AM
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Be frankly, if u r one of the smoker. You will know its hard to quit it. Caused I'm smoke too. Well, unless there is something/matter to force her quit (example like get any serious sickness or having child ..), otherwise its very hard to get her quit it.

Take some time on it, maybe she will take your advise.
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE(AkaRyux @ Jul 20 2005, 12:32 PM)
... Let her smoke. It's her effing choice. Stop forcing your opinion on her. You're not being a good friend by not respecting her opinions. If smoking helps her, so be it.
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how can smoking help her friend when it's slowly going to kill her?

QUOTE(Individualityy @ Jul 24 2005, 5:25 PM)
Tell her that smoking kills, and you don't want to see her chances of living a long and happy life go to waste. Then give her some statistics, or better, give her the shock effect. Actually SHOW her pictures of what happens to you when you smoke..

And if it doesn't work, seek help. There are tons of hotlines out there that'll help you.
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yeah, show her the effects of smoking. the lines in your lips, the different cancers she can get, the warts that can grow in your mouth and throat, the wrinkles, and all that. i never was interested in smoking but after i saw those pictures i vowed never to smoke. ugh, it's so gross.

plus, not only does it eat away at your life, but it eats away at your money because they price of cigarettes is rising and the cigarette smoke stinks up your clothes and she'll need to do all this washing to get rid of the smell which she probably won't do.

smoking is so gross sick.gif
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(chii @ Aug 11 2005, 5:44 AM)
how can smoking help her friend when it's slowly going to kill her?
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Exactly. It's her choice if she wants to die that way. If that's 'helping' her, back off.

Okay. I have a friend that smokes as well and he is REALLY close to me. I'm trying hard to make him quit (he's trying harder) by giving him a CD for every month he goes without smoking. I don't care how much that's going to cost me because it matters a lot to me that he's healthy. He also has will to stop smoking for HIMSELF.

Maybe you should ask your friend if smoking is what she really wants and try to coax her out of it without threatening her.
 
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:11 PM
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We can't really tell you what to do, or just let her smoke. If she doesn't quit and thinks that smoking can make her have no more pressure or depression, then let her smoke. It's her choice. Whether than, you can either tell her that if smoking is really want she wants.
 

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