Polygamy..., Religious fundamentalism Options

[madchenallein]

Okay, so I just finished Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven, and it raises so many interesting questions. In it he states that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints does not consider itself to have fundamentalist splinters. That having been said, for simplicity's sake, Krakauer refers to many of the religious groups mentioned in his book, which have in fact splintered off from the LDS church after excommunication, as Mormon or LDS fundamentalists.

Here's the debate: do you consider the practice of polygamy under religious tenets to be constitutionally protected, or is it simply a violation of law? According to one fundamental 'Mormon' teching cited in the book, a dedicated follower must practice multiple 'celestial marriages' (several wives), not for his sexual delectation, but to shore up resources for his afterlife. The guidelines are that he spend equal time with each wife, abstain from sex unless it is specifically to create life with a fertile (read 'ovulating') wife-not exactly a license to disport himself with four women at once.

I am not Mormon or fundamentalist Mormon, however, I must question the government interfering in the practice of one's religious faith in the home. However, to contradict myself (lol), many of the women in these relationships can feel abused or devalued and some children surely are taken advantage of or forced into relationships they are not yet ready for.

Problems that also figure into the actual practice of polygamy is the severe abuse by some (many) fundamental polygamists of the American welfare system. But, for me, that is turning into a slippery slope, as I already oppose government subsidized welfare, so let's look at it strictly as a state vs. religion issue.

If you oppose it, then at what point do you stop opposing government interfering in religious practice? How about not getting a social security number because you oppose the government's intrusiveness and imperialism under the guise of 'fill in your SSN' religiously? Or what if you don't want your tax money to be used for state schools because your faith teaches differently from what the government indoctrinates the state school children with using your money?

[*not_your_average*]

I believe polygamy is wrong. And if you're a Christian, then you shouldn't be practicing polygamy. According to Scripture, marriage is a union between one man and one woman. Polygamy goes against Christian teachings, so why practice it? Polygamy is also against US laws, and I personally am against it.

[sadolakced acid]

mayhaps the fact that the marraiges are often arranged, and between 13 year old girls and 60 year old men, that might say something?

religion is second to the government. lest you forget, the 9/11 hijackers were on a religious mission. should we let them do that simply because it's thier religion?

religious practice should be regulated untill it hurts no one else and breaks no laws.

this involves regulating religious events, where there is more than one person in attendance; regulating meetings; regulating everything, in fact, sans individual worship in your own home (without forcing anyone else to do so either.)

individual worship that does not break any laws, preformed in the confines of one's own home is the only thing of religion the government should not regulate.

this also involves banning evangelism and jailing those who continue to practice it. if someone requests religious literature, they can be given it, but only if.

these restriction do not impose any unreasonable restrictions on true religion (which is always a personal relationship).

[amizon]

I have not much to say on the issue addressed, but I just want to thank madchenallein for NOT mormon-bashing and saying we are all polygamists. Its only the people who basically went very astray from the LDS church called fundamentalist LDS (which makes no since since it goes against LDS fundamentals). Thanks! I've been stumbling across so much mormon bashing lately, and its really quite depressing to have so many people against us and our religion. Yes, US, meaning there are individual PEOPLE your are hurting when you go against mormons.. excuse my rant, thanks again

[crocodilo]

In some societies polygamy has it's place and is justifiable such as the north American Indians who were warrior peoples. Due to tribal hostilities the male warriors were often killed in large numbers leaving the tribes female population severely outwaying the tribes male population. Therefore, polygamy was required so that all the women could be cared for by a man and so more women could be impregnated in order to ensure the continuation of the tribes existance by maintaining a large population

This shows in certain societies polygamy is justifiable

Just like the Mormons, the Native American Indians were forced to abolish their views on polygamy due to thy interventionof the state which is not fair

[sadolakced acid]

Just like the Mormons, the Native American Indians were forced to abolish their views on polygamy due to thy interventionof the state which is not fair

but the males weren't being killed off anymore.