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`nuff said.
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Hell yeah, i'd be the mod of that.
Me and Elba, we will demonstrate the various positions. |
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...hehehehehe
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yea i guess it would be pretty cool
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does pg 13 ring a bell?
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No, not really.
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oh gawd!
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people under 13 can stay out of it , if they go in and start reading and stuff thats not anyone elses fault
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![]() This bitch better work! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,681 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,095 ![]() |
^ oh puh-lease! kids at the age of 13 are having sex so you know how that goes...
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^True dat. But the age thingy should be raised to like... 16 or 17.
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community center > interests > sex (mature cbers only)
sounds like a good idea |
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*AngelicEyz00* |
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It better sound like a good idea to you.
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fine...all the members can go there and cyber their hearts out...
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If there is a sex forum, then there will be no point for the Girls Locker to even exist.
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QUOTE(wind&fire @ Jun 11 2005, 10:18 PM) Not really. We can talk about sex. No explicit details. Maybe general ideas, general tiopcs, etc. It'll be fun. Maybe not for you, so don't even bother. QUOTE(x____duckii @ Jun 11 2005, 10:18 PM) Of course there will be. The girls' locker isn't full of sex topics... |
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OMG LOL!!! im almost done puberty so u guyz no....LOL!!!111one i can join this lol1
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ah, i think its a great educations. i dont even know that much about it but i know some from school. school doesnt provided much education about it. i want to learn more about puberty ! haha. does that related to sex?
i think the forum should be restricten from: people who are not a member of cB. underage child, a mod should approve whether you qualify to have "that" education. so, its safer and less bad influence. edit// If a mod found a immature underage member, ban em ! mowahah. suspend and warn them ! |
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Sure. Puberty. Sex. Abstinence. Birth Control. Etc.
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not having sex. celibacy.
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Hahahaha not a bad idea at all =)
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QUOTE(aznxboredxperson @ Jun 12 2005, 1:31 AM) ah, i think its a great educations. i dont even know that much about it but i know some from school. school doesnt provided much education about it. i want to learn more about puberty ! haha. does that related to sex? i think the forum should be restricten from: people who are not a member of cB. underage child, a mod should approve whether you qualify to have "that" education. so, its safer and less bad influence. Hmm agreed. Sounds like a good idea to me. |
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For shizzle dizzles
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huh, what do you mean ? SEX? .SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX. SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX. .SEX.SEX..SEX.SEX. ??? |
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QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Jun 11 2005, 10:41 PM) i see " sex " and i see shizzle dizzles ? ![]() ![]() |
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I guess it would be pretty cool. If JusunLee.com has it, why shouldn't CreateBlog? Most people here are mature enough to know about "sex," so, yeah.
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Well, some people are mature. Most people are not. Idiots, I tell ya. But yeah, it can be a strictly moderated forum by yours truly
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*AngelicEyz00* |
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I think you're wotally trong.
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I bet it would break the all-time record for most posts per day in a forum.
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Haha, i doubt it. Some people, believe it or not, are shy to talk about their sex lives ;x like it's supposed to be private or something
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If they are shy, they dont have to post about it.
whats up w/ SEX at the far right side of your post? |
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Talking about: birth control, abstinence, and other various topics related to sex, but not directly, can easily be talked about in the debate form, as that's what's going to end up happening.
I don't really see a need for a sex forum at this community. The general age is under fifteen. When it comes to being able to watch pornography legally, the individual must be eighteen, so if there even was to be a subforum created, the minimum age allowed to view/post would be users eighteen years and older. Again though, there's really no need for this subforum here. Yes, there are other forums here that don't necessarily pertain to createblog, but creating the sex forum is stretching it a bit. It could easily be contained to either the boys or girls locker. And to get on the topic of maturity, many of the posts made to this suggestion lacked maturity in it. Which may foreshadow what that particular subforum would end up looking like. |
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QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Jun 12 2005, 9:25 AM) Haha, i doubt it. Some people, believe it or not, are shy to talk about their sex lives ;x like it's supposed to be private or something ![]() I still don't get why they are shy about it. Anyways, i totally support this idea BUT cB is full of 10-15 yr olds and also there are some ppl who don't want to talk about sex (which is bs). If there shd be a sex forum, it shd be about advice on first times, condoms, pills, something educative. Yeah ![]() |
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let's do it.
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i don't think it's that bad of an idea. people have a lot of questions about sex and sex-related experiences (i know i do..
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i think that having a sex forum would degrade the site completely. this isn't xxx.com or anything. wasn't the site made for your xanga needs (not sexual needs) in the first place?
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..it's not like it'll be a forum for people to post pictures of their boobs or something. just to talk about sex and any questions you might have.
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QUOTE(jordanriane @ Jun 12 2005, 1:09 AM) I don't really see a need for a sex forum at this community. The general age is under fifteen. When it comes to being able to watch pornography legally, the individual must be eighteen, so if there even was to be a subforum created, the minimum age allowed to view/post would be users eighteen years and older. ....Who says we are posting up porn? It would just be a place to discuss sex. ![]() |
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QUOTE(caytexo @ Jun 12 2005, 4:14 PM) i think that having a sex forum would degrade the site completely. this isn't xxx.com or anything. wasn't the site made for your xanga needs (not sexual needs) in the first place? wtf?? we are not posting porn, just talking about sex or condoms, pills, pregnancy, something educative ![]() |
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but we do that already in the lounge, girl's locker room, AND boy's locker room...
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^ but there's some things we'd like to ask about that can't be posted in the other forums. it'd be nice to have a place to discuss these things.
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yea. sure. but i'm pretty sure i would stay ut of it...
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^ wow. Why does sex upset you so much? You were born by it...
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Maybe it has to do with the fact that she was born in 93'
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when i was her age, i already knew a few things about sex. Sex has never scared me...
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I thought that was for the lockers, but sure a Sex Forum would be great. You should make it password protected or something though, so only mature cBers can get in.. Unlike people like Jason *cough* I support the sex forum!
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Nigger please, I'm down for it. I get to spam about Sekcz! w00tz.!
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Nigger your ass ain't gonna be spammig sh*t.
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QUOTE(AngelicEyz00 @ Jun 12 2005, 1:22 AM) Yeah, but what else is there to talk about in the Girls Locker? Talking about boob size or whatever would also count as a sex topic, pretty much. They used to talk about fashion there, but now there's a subforum for it, so yeah... |
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^ Actually, it does pertain to sex in a way. Your boobs are part of your sexuality, and part of sex is you sexuality.
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Boobs are secondary sex characteristics, so Yeah, that would go in that forum.
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After reading all these posts, I think it's a good idea.
But are we going to have an entire different forum dedicated to sex, or should we have two threads on sex in the boys and girls locker? |
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Of course, from the secret mind of Elba.
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The forum would deal with sex, meaning intercourse, not breasts. If you have a problem with the sex forum, then don't go in it! Problem solved.
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Ahahahha Elba, ILU
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I dont see anything wrong with it. I have taken 3 sex education courses myself so I wouldn't need help in that area, but I wouldnt mind giving advice to others. Plus I learn from experience *wink*
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thatll be interesting... although the "boys locker" seems like the sex forum of CB
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Yeah, I've taken 2 Sex Ed Classes as well, So I don't think I'll be needing help, but I can help. I bet only 1/5 people here know what Smegma is. and Trust me, You don't wanna know.
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^ no, it doesn'ttttt. ah. (to ichigofan)
in the proposed sex forum..i don't think there would be a large abundance of the more innocent topics in the boys' and girls' locker. FOR EXAMPLE, i would probably post a topic about .. guys squirting cum really far after getting a handjob. cause i ran into that the other day and it was like "woahh.." i mean, it almost went across the room, and i'd post a topic asking if that was .. normal? cause that's something i would like to know. this is all hypothetical of course. ![]() now, it might just be me, but i've never seen a topic like that in either boys' nor girls' lockers. mostly, cause people wouldn't feel comfortable posting something like that there because people would go off like "AHHHH OMGZORZ IS THIS PG-13?!?!?" but people would like answers to these questions from people their age, who they can realte to, like the people on this forum. ![]() i think it would really be a good idea because we don't really have anywhere to post these topics. |
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sammi, le gasp!
lol. yes. the sex forum is a good idea. if nothing else, it could get some laughs |
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All right, i think its enough to discuss about it. When is the forum coming?
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Personally, I think the whole forum would go out of hand and turn into a cyber forum..
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well...there are mods. i mean, we have the capactity to monitor that kind of stuff. and if it gets way too out of hand, then we can not have it anymore. i do think it would be good to try out though.
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Tis why I said it should be password protected or something, so immature people don't get in, including pervs, excluding the ones who actually like sex but are not pervs.
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Very good idea. I think a could learn something
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QUOTE(sweetxsimplicity @ Jun 12 2005, 2:35 PM) Since when does a sex forum automatically=perverted cyber talk? Some people have questions, like the one Elba used as an example, and us educated people can help. Seriously, it will only "turn into a cyber forum" if mods don't do their job. |
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^ seriously, and just as much immature people will make comments as any other forum. we can deal with them elsewhere, why would it be such an issue there? we have the power to control these things..
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Yeah I need a place to discuss my problems.
"Doctor I have purple testicles and yellow bumps on my penis, is that a bad thing?" ^^LMFAO |
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well no, not if they feel uncomfortable..but if they have questions about it, then fine, why not?
no one would be FORCING people to go in there if they're not comfortable talking about it.. |
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Just have strict mods. I think i should be a mod. I mean come on, just look at my name.
Plus this was me and Elbas idea. (Excuse the horrible English.) Also, Brianna, Cyber Forum? Please, after what you and I did in the Createblog chat, this would be nothing... Now about those immature kids, just chain them up or something. Like jason, put like a lock on him or something. Or set up a requirement or something similar. |
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QUOTE(uLoVeMikeRoch @ Jun 12 2005, 8:37 PM) Just have strict mods. I think i should be a mod. I mean come on, just look at my name. Plus this was me and Elbas idea. (Excuse the horrible English.) Also, Brianna, Cyber Forum? Please, after what you and I did in the Createblog chat, this would be nothing... Now about those immature kids, just chain them up or something. Like jason, put like a lock on him or something. Or set up a requirement or something similar. haha, i made up the requirement ideas ![]() ![]() |
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actually, caytexo, according to law, TECHNICALLY there shouldn't be any 11-12 year olds on CB.
an age verifier is provided (i think, i dont remember) saying that all members are over 13. if they lie, its not our fault. therefore, why should CB cater to the sensitivity of members who, in theory, dont exist, above the maturity of members who would use the forum responsibly? |
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but even if some 13 year olds do have sex, and most at least know about it anyway, the fact remains that a forum discussing intercouse is NOT pg-13. i seriously don't think this forum is necessary. not because i care about ignorant children, or because i myself am not comfortable with it, but i just really don't think it's a good idea. if you must talk about sex that desparately, go to another forum to do it. cb really is not the right place to diiscuss this. it's innappropriate for so many people here. and while, no, they don't have to go in it, if parents come across it, think about how much trouble the kids can get in. cb will no longer be the "innocent" forum i try to pass it off as being when my mom finds it, it will be exactly what she fears me going to. if this were a small forum, like clique where they do have one, i'd be fine with it, but cb is a huge community and tons of google searches link to it. it gets tons of traffic a day, so at one point some overly zealous people will stumble in, make a scene, start protesting, try to get it shut down, etc etc. yes, im exaggerating, but it isn't quite worth the risk. theres more than enough places where you can talk about your sex life without creating a forum for it.
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nicki, we aren't going to talk about how sex is done, or about horny things, just educative things, like condoms and such... pss agree to this idea or i'll rape you
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yeah, and we need an entire forum to talk about condoms and things because...?
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It'll be more organised. Easier to find topics.
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so? thats what we have a search button for
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...besides there are few topics that don't fit in the girls/boys locker. Like condoms, first time etc... those are general questions...
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there's plenty of topics on a variety of subjects that don't fit into a specific place, but they're fit in nonetheless. there are way more reasons not to have a sex forum than to have a sex forum
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so..i can go post that example topic i suggested in the girls' locker, and no one can give a fit?
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i pretty much agree with nicki, but i do see why it could be helpful. i just think if you're really curious (such as sammi's example topic) wouldn't it be just as easy to search something on google about it..? i know there are plenty of educational teen sex sites out there already, and i don't completely get why it's necessary to have a whole sex forum.
what i found from one google search (sorry if this is inappropiate, i just wanted to show how easy it would be to answer sammi's question): "There's a *huge* variation from person to person with regard to ejaculation force as well as volume, and neither has anything to do with anything important (such as having children), even though your performance may look impressive." that literally took 30 seconds to find. i guess the benefit to a sex forum would be you could discuss this? but again, i don't see why that's completely necessary. |
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i would just feel way more comfortable asking people my age on here than asking my mom, teachers, or even my friends offline, considering they all know me and my boyfriend irl and it would probably be way awkward for them when hanging out with the both of us..plus, if it was a topic here, i could hear others' opinions on the matter and if such a thing has ever happened to them.
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William I agree.
Instead of making a forum that will end up turning into a rukus of topics that would "inform," the user, why not create a .. "big book of resources: sex style." If that's why a use is making a topic, then let's make it easy and compile a list of sex education links. Just by glancing at some of, or rather most of, the replies here in this thread, it's obvious that it's going to be a bunch of useless replies, and immature banter. There's only so much to discuss about condoms and the like. Also put into consideration that sex isn't even legal until a certain age pending on what state the individual lives in. This could prove complications seeing as though CB applies the 13+ barrier, then it would make sense to also apply other legal rules, such as the age of consent. ( http://www.ageofconsent.com/ ) |
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