The Official cB Flame Forum! Options

[*CrackedRearView*]

Okay -- now I know what you're thinking, Jusun. This is a terrible idea, why would anyone want to participate in the bashing of other members?

Simply put, it's human nature.

People don't like other people, and people get pleasure out of expressing that genuine dislike.

Lock up the ABS and take a second to consider this before you throw it out. Although this goes against many of the rules cB was founded on, it is a very good idea, and could be a very mediating experience for many.

Here's how the forum would work:

You enter at your own risk.

It serves as a medium for solving problems between two people, as well as a vent for people.

It's serves as a way better alternative to ensuing rumors people start, and lasting hatred between people.

You could even have people that serve as mediators between two people, and it could be a very organized ordeal.

All I'm saying is consider it.

[inthemudhole]

Sounds like a great idea to me.

I like the idea of the entering at your own risk.

I realize some people may think this is a horrible idea, but I think it would be nice. Just a place to rant, you know?

I'm for it.
Nice idea.

I've seen a lot of boards with forums called 'Flame Wars' or something to that effect. It kind of helps and you DO enter at your own risk. There's a little 'warning' in the forum description, so I have seen it done before.

Also, maybe another idea to make it seem more worthwhile and not just a place to spam would be to take the post counts out. *shrugs* Just another idea.

[*nightmare4taki*]

Im all for it, although I will never enter. Maybe it will be a way of settling longtime disputes between Bitter Cbers.

I think their should be an official memberbash forum or thread where we not necessarily try to hurt someone's feelings intentionally, but express our feelings of one another. Like Justin Said its all human nature and Certain people were meant not to get along. I think this forum or thread would be nice and should still have certain rules and stipulations before being administered.

[*basick*]

I think this is a great idea. We could call it the Flame Forum and you can really get up in a motherf**kers ass (no homo).

Maybe this would stop some of the spamming and those subliminal flames that I see. Of course we would have rules and everything and only people who wanted to participate could. Here's one rule right now - you can't flame anybody unless they are willing to participate. Another idea - make it password protected. Enter at your own risk.

Matter fact, you don't even have to flame another member. You mad at your local radio station because they didn't play you're favorite Jay-Z track? Tell cB! You mad cause someone stepped on your new jordans? Don't hold back, cB needs to know! Nah, seriously, this is a good idea.

Just think about it

[Heathasm]

hmmm...i suppose if the forum stayed truthful. if you really think about it, its not member bashing if you're being completely honest. i think it would end up being home to a bunch of people complaining though lol. idk if i like the idea just yet

[*wind&fire*]

so its just clear up fights right ...or to start fights?

[*Azarel*]

KRC368 - Nightmare4Taki (Kevin)
antanAZAREL - yours truly.
b a s i i i c k - basick (Steven)
JustinCRV - CrackedRearView (Justin)

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antanAZAREL: And that would be?<br />[22:56:27 PM] b a s i i i c k: a boring forum<br />[22:56:28 PM] b a s i i i c k: lol<br />[22:56:31 PM] KRC368: true<br />[22:56:36 PM] KRC368: i want to see the real deal<br />[22:56:53 PM] b a s i i i c k: most forums i go to have a flame wars anyways<br />[22:57:12 PM] JustinCRV: It would be illogical to say that a flame/mediation forum wouldn't dampen the amount of feelings that would be hurt by someone spreading a rumor.<br />[22:57:26 PM] JustinCRV: 'I heard so and so smokes crack' could be put in a topic and refuted<br />[22:57:33 PM] JustinCRV: as opposed to thrown around in an AIM convo.<br />[22:57:59 PM] JustinCRV: I mean it would only be within the confines of the cB member base, right?<br />[22:58:04 PM] JustinCRV: I think it would help solve problems.<br />[22:58:17 PM] KRC368: i agree with that<br />[22:58:24 PM] JustinCRV: but she has a point<br />[22:58:30 PM] JustinCRV: in saying that tensions will still occur.<br />[22:58:31 PM] KRC368: she really does<br />[22:58:34 PM] JustinCRV: they'll just be dampened.<br />[22:58:36 PM] b a s i i i c k: i jsut want it cause it would be fun<br />[22:58:39 PM] b a s i i i c k: lol..<br />[22:58:45 PM] KRC368: haha<br />[22:58:48 PM] JustinCRV: and if we can dilute tensions between people -- mission accomplished.<br />[22:58:52 PM] JustinCRV: it would also be very fun to read.<br />[22:58:54 PM] JustinCRV: =P<br />[22:59:02 PM] KRC368: i agree<br />[22:59:07 PM] KRC368: it would be something fun to read<br />[22:59:17 PM] b a s i i i c k: yes more fun than "are you stupid"<br />[22:59:39 PM] JustinCRV: not more fun than 'Basick is not your friend don't mod him.'<br />[22:59:58 PM] b a s i i i c k: not more fun than "when voting comes, will you be ready?"<br />[23:00:00 PM] b a s i i i c k: either<br />[23:00:18 PM] KRC368: lol krn kiddo is 10<br />[23:00:31 PM] b a s i i i c k: lol<br />[23:00:41 PM] KRC368: how old r u thread<br />[23:00:52 PM] b a s i i i c k: maybe we really need an age limit<br />[23:01:01 PM] KRC368: true<br />[23:01:11 PM] KRC368: ppl would then lie about their age though<br />[23:01:23 PM] b a s i i i c k: lol<br />[23:01:26 PM] b a s i i i c k: ban everyone under 12<br />[23:01:32 PM] KRC368: lol<br />[23:01:33 PM] b a s i i i c k: problem solved<br />[23:01:37 PM] KRC368: yeah<br /><br />[23:06:11 PM] KRC368: see this is why we need a bash forum anna<br />[23:06:18 PM] JustinCRV: Joemar and I used to copy and save bad typing<br />[23:06:18 PM] KRC368: so we can talk about stuff like this<br />[23:06:37 PM] antanAZAREL: Joemar wrote about that on his xanga before.<br />[23:06:39 PM] antanAZAREL: It was amusing.<br />[23:06:40 PM] antanAZAREL: ...<br />[23:06:47 PM] antanAZAREL: So we need a bash forum<br />[23:06:47 PM] JustinCRV: I had about four examples<br />[23:06:54 PM] antanAZAREL: so we can excessively spam the board<br />[23:06:54 PM] JustinCRV: my best was the one I showed you.<br />[23:07:02 PM] antanAZAREL: instead of just talking about it in chat<br />[23:07:05 PM] antanAZAREL: like we are now.<br />[23:07:07 PM] antanAZAREL: Because you know.<br />[23:07:12 PM] antanAZAREL: That really makes a whole lot of sense.<br />[23:07:19 PM] JustinCRV: well we'd have to chisle out the rules of the flame forum<br />[23:07:24 PM] JustinCRV: you would have to do it in like<br />[23:07:31 PM] JustinCRV: '___ pisses me off' format<br />[23:07:38 PM] JustinCRV: or 'I don't like ____ for this reason'<br />[23:07:41 PM] b a s i i i c k: i wouldnt care if flame forum posts dont count on your post #<br />[23:07:42 PM] antanAZAREL: Oh ho, but there was a thread on that already.<br />[23:07:45 PM] JustinCRV: not 'Silly typers are stupid'<br />[23:07:54 PM] b a s i i i c k: nah<br />[23:07:57 PM] b a s i i i c k: you can flame anything<br />[23:07:57 PM] antanAZAREL: It doesn't matter whether or not it adds to your post count.<br />[23:07:58 PM] JustinCRV: yeah they could just not count.<br />[23:08:02 PM] JustinCRV: because it would be so goddamn funny.<br />[23:08:12 PM] antanAZAREL: I mean, mods got all f**king anal when people were spamming in forum games.<br />[23:08:18 PM] antanAZAREL: And that shit doesn't get added to your post count.<br />[23:08:21 PM] b a s i i i c k: Matter fact, you don't even have to flame another member. You mad at your local radio station because they didn't play you're favorite Jay-Z track? Tell cB!<br />[23:08:33 PM] KRC368: i wouldn't never post in a flame forum<br />[23:08:34 PM] b a s i i i c k: its a flame forum<br />[23:08:38 PM] KRC368: i would just want to read it<br />[23:08:43 PM] b a s i i i c k: you dont have to flame a member<br />[23:08:51 PM] KRC368: lmao steven<br />[23:09:00 PM] KRC368: did you post that<br />[23:09:03 PM] b a s i i i c k: yaeh<br />[23:09:04 PM] b a s i i i c k: lol<br />[23:09:08 PM] KRC368: lmao<br />[23:09:14 PM] JustinCRV: well it's going to be obvious to Jusun<br />[23:09:24 PM] JustinCRV: that people just want to see people bitch and scream about things.<br />[23:09:32 PM] JustinCRV: that's really all we want.<br />[23:09:37 PM] antanAZAREL: Eh.<br /><br /><!-- end code provided by createblog.com -->

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[miss barnes]

ohh..i think that would be interesting. i dont know if i would participate..i may but, i would read...

[jordanriane]

Here's a better idea:

- rant about it in your xanga.
- if it's towards a person, contact them via email through cb, aim, or pm's.

[Nicolatofu]

this idea was proposed before... and Jusun rejected it. It is still a form of member bashing which cB does not support. at all. i believe he sais something along the lines of that.

[*mzkandi*]

Here's a better idea:

- rant about it in your xanga.
- if it's towards a person, contact them via email through cb, aim, or pm's.

Exactly.

I am not fond of the idea. Even if its all in good fun (or enter at your on risk), someone is bound to get offended and it has too much potential to lead to member bashing. cB is known to be a friendly and supportive community but this so directly contradicts that.

[EmmalieV]

Its pretty sucky , CB´s not the kind of forum that would support this , most of you should know that by now.

[heyyfrankie]

no matter how much you try to make it sound good, it is not a good idea. createBlog is supposed to be a fun community. do you really think that people are going to want to join if they see a forum called FLAM FORUM ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK? i mean, it still is bashing and the idea of doing it in your xanga or contacting the person via PM/Email is a much better way of letting the person know how you feel and might even able y'all to work out your differences.

[racoons > you]

i think its a fun idea, and i would love to participate, but as it directly contradicts the forum rules, it would be utterly hypocritical to allow it to proceed.

as anna said in the chat thingy she posted, it wouldnt reduce member bashing outside of it, in fact, by deliberately courting controversy and argument, its going to multiply animostiy, and the more of something there is in a cup, the more likely it is to spill over.

secondly, even if it didnt contribute to post COUNT, it still counts towards PPd (or that is the case with forum games as i understand it). do we really want members to acheive the requirements to become official members with the help of bashing? i dont really think its gonna be a popular scheme up top.

HOWEVER... with the idea of it being spam... now... correct me if im wrong, but if a forum is specially created with the purpose of bashing.. the nsurely bashing within that forum is on topic, and therefore not spam? or am i confused?

final verdict: good in theory, doubt it would work in practice. that being said, im not against trying things out... but again, directly violates one of the fundamental points of Cb's guidelines

[jennyjenny]

I was for this at first, but now it seems dumb.

So say you go in. And you see some topic saying like, "OMG ____ IS SO STUPID." or something and that person is you. And then you've never even done anything to them but they just find you annoying. Don't you think that would cause more problems?

I mean, yeah, it's enter at your own risk... but it's human nature to be curious.

[Cam]

Fair enough. Let people talk shit about others outside of a controlled, mediated environment.

Makes no difference to me.

[*mona lisa*]

There's no such thing as human nature.

[sammi rules you]

wth?! you people confuse me so much. everyone complains about negativity and fighting at cb, and now people want an entire forum dedicated to people being mean to others? what is your guys' problem?

WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT? make up your damn minds.

[xquizit]

Not gonna happen guys. We wouldn't want to create even more unnecessary drama and hatred towards members now do we? And clearly, this is against the Community Guidelines.

Here's a better idea:

- rant about it in your xanga.
- if it's towards a person, contact them via email through cb, aim, or pm's.

Agreed. What makes you think that posting on CB will work as a better outlet than your blog? And if you have a problem with someone, what's your point in making it so public anyway? Just to humiliate that person. Have all your buddies team up and gang up against the person? I mean, if it's really that serious, why not just contact the person directly and settle your differences?

wth?! you people confuse me so much. everyone complains about negativity and fighting at cb, and now people want an entire forum dedicated to people being mean to others? what is your guys' problem?

WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT? make up your damn minds.

She's got a point.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Agreed w/ Sammy, something I've speculated as well.

There is a big problem in this idea:

What if these two people hate each other and want to do all the rant, yell, and whatnot, and A goes to the flame forum and yells about B. B can either see it and reply angrily, reply nicely (diplomatically), not reply, or not even enter the forum.

Reply angrily) This is what the architect of the forum hopes for: pure, direct conflict. The hope is that it will resolve issues. It is true that if two were mature enough, they'd cooperate on a midpoint. That's good. But then we have the immature people who will blow off steam like no tomorrow. It is unlikely any 'resolve' will come out of this. Now the question in this one is: Are there more ppl likely to resolve the issue or just dig deeper into the gash?

Reply diplomatically) A pushes for B to yell back. B says no and continues to be calm about it. Eventually B will yell back or nothing is resolved. A and B just don't talk to each other anymore. Is the conflict/issue resolved?

Not reply) Now we have A posting multiple topics or multiple posts flaming B. B does not respond. A continues to rant to the forum about B. Nothing happens, except the public will probably view A and B differently now. Situation resolved? No.

B doesn't even enter the forum) *enter at your own risk* Now B doesn't even know A is yelling in the flame forums. That is almost like a monopoly. A can talk smack about B all he wants in the forum unrestricted.

I swerved off the road, but I meant that if B doesn't respond, A will feel victorious and have the entire forum for his use to badmouth B.

It's ineffective. I say, if the conflict is hardcore enough, they'll bother to click all those buttons to PM each other. If not, then why bother. If you can't click a few buttons, the conflict ain't that serious-well, for the people who won't PM each other- that is.

[racoons > you]

sorry, spam, but ooh! jeff!

[*Weird addiction*]

Wow, Here's an example:

I hate james for been SO effin sexy! he makes me hella horny and mad and i hate Rachel for been such a nymphooo. I hate Elba for having such a sexy voice that turns me on. It makes me HELLA jealous!! And roxanne, i detest you for being such a wonderful artist. Jordan i hate you for turning me on...

Ok i don't think this is going to work. Did i just compliment you guys

[racoons > you]

what, sandra?

lol. but yeah. roxy has said it wont happen, because it infringes the rules, and admin (congrats, btw) her decision is more or less final. so i guess this ought to be closed really, seeing as a decision has bee reached

[KissMe2408]

In a way, I kinda do think the idea would be good. If someone does have the urge to rant about CB to CB, and post it somewhere..all you angry people, just post it in that forum. It could be a very good idea.

Although, at the same time it could create even more turmoil in createblog, and instead of keeping all the angry posts into one forum, it could just create even more problems.

So it probably wouldn't be too smart of an idea, because people get angry about the weirdest things on here, so there is gonna be drama everywhere, it would be impossible to contain it into a forum...Tho the idea sounds nice...But the more i think about it, the more i don't think it would work.
Tho, i do like the "just a place to rant" feel to it. Maybe someone should start a topic that says, "just rant" and rant and complain about everything...from people you know, school, to createblog. That might bet better..:)

[*jooleeah*]

I remember this topic from a while back.

here it is

I don't really support this idea. Createblog is supposed to be a friendly community, remember? I can see why you're proposing this idea, but people could get out of control.

[*chaneun*]

Can't you just.... find some way to solve problems on an instant messenger?

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

I think it's a good idea, so this is kinda like peer mediation?

[demolished]

Thats what you called a cB a friendly forum ? i'm object =]

[EXPLO5ION]

I think that a cb flame forum is bad. It is suppose to be a friendly community, no? If you absolutely have to rant about someone from here, you could do it on your xanga or whatever.

[sweetxsimplicity]

No..cB is supposed to be a friendly community. If you want to sort something out, PM whomever you want to sort it out with. We don't need a whole forum for it. And I don't think everyone would post there, because who wants everyone in the world to know about their fights and whatnots?

[Tung]

Bump.

"lol i agree with laughsalot on that one thing, the more i see sparrowdust's posts, the more i get annoyed.. the let's throw a pity party story because of this and that and even in MP when she was trying to justify her reasons against tung. should have left that ass, no dick is ever worth that shit and that's you just being dumb blind in "love"- giraffe

[transcendentalis...]

We could just view Tung's latest posts for our unofficial cB Flame Forum.

just sayin

[Tung]

Good one.

"i don't care to know the story but obviously you want it known by internet strangers by posting your whole shit all over the place

but good, if that's how you deal with it, that's fine. whine all you want about it but the fact of the matter is, you're still with that guy."

[pandora]

tung, stop instigating and cut the spam.

[Tung]

It ain't even spam, and I'm using this specific thread for this. So it ain't even instigating.

[pandora]

this isnt the official thread for flaming, nor is anything you've posted actually relevant to the thread.

besides, this idea was already shot down.

moved to resolved.