halo 2, stuff Options

[indykid845]

iz there ne one else who CANNOT wait 4 halo 2 to come out?!
(lemme kno if this topic has already been discussed)

[ZXCVBNMASDF]

hehe..halo 2 rules

[*Expresseggroll*]

Lol. Gonna big the biggest First person shooter. That game is CrAzY

[Saeglopur]

What's so great about halo?

moved.

[DaTru KataLYST]

What's so great about halo?

moved.

It was the game that saved console gaming.

[Saeglopur]

It was the game that saved console gaming.

So...? What's so great about it... That's what I asked.

[mechwarrior1989]

So...? What's so great about it... That's what I asked.

Nothing really, it's just awesome. Come to think of it, it's basically like any other FPS except it's just so much more awesome. I'm not sure why, but it's a great game, especially the multiplayer, in the single player the maps were too repetative, but they said they have addressed this in Halo 2 so it'll be better. Plus there's double wielding, the energy swords, destrucable vehicles, kicking people off vehicles and so forth. It also has more paths to finish each level and some you can get by without ever firing your weapon. It sort of combines everything good you find in other FPS's into one uber awesome one.

[DaTru KataLYST]

So...? What's so great about it... That's what I asked.

and I said it was the game that saved console gaming. What did I not answer?

Do you just need me to clarify?

Greatness:
- Just like how Half-Life revolutionized PC gaming, that's what Halo did for console FPS.
- Graphics were awesome
- The human and alien weapons were balanced, (excluding the Needler) and each had its nifty secondary weapons.
- The vehicles you could control were just so amazing.
- Co-op ability
- Legendary mode
- Multiplayer games make my parties more fun.
- Crushing people with a warthog.
- 4 Xboxes + 4 TVs + 16 controllers + 16 players = FunFunFun

[wayne]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

[ZXCVBNMASDF]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

agree with that one

[BigPappaSmurf]

Halo is so awesom I have the first one on my other comp. and like the desktop is full of all kinds of mods and stuff its crazy.

[goofipinay]

i love halo! its awesome

and i agree wit wayne

[ThunderEvermore]

It was the game that saved console gaming.

What?

How do you figure?

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

First, its FPS, not FPS shooter, thats redundant.

Second, its not the best shooter. Yes, it was the most hyped Xbox game, but thats all it was, hype.

It didnt save Xbox. Xbox is losing billions of dollars for Microsoft.

Halo is not a marker of two eras in gaming, fans were just as hardcore as they were before, theres just alot more nubs talking about how Halo is the best game ever.

No other FPS? Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, those are the best FPSes from console gaming..ever. Now those, THOSE marked eras. Goldeneye brought FPSes to console gaming. Perfect Dark enhanced the incredible qualities of GE gaming while putting a bit more, and some better stuff into it.

Halo didnt 'save' console gaming, console gaming wasnt in danger.

Greatness:
- Just like how Half-Life revolutionized PC gaming, that's what Halo did for console FPS.
- Graphics were awesome
- The human and alien weapons were balanced, (excluding the Needler) and each had its nifty secondary weapons.
- The vehicles you could control were just so amazing.
- Co-op ability
- Legendary mode
- Multiplayer games make my parties more fun.
- Crushing people with a warthog.
- 4 Xboxes + 4 TVs + 16 controllers + 16 players = FunFunFun

1) How did Halo revolutionize anything?
2) Graphics were good, but they were on an XBox, which has great graphics overall anyway.
3) Yeah, because its real easy to see how having a Rocket Launcher is just as good as having a Shotgun. Ok.
4) Vehicles werent great. I liked the Ghost, and thats about it.
5) Co Op isnt exactly a new thing.
6) Legendary=Very Hard, right? Alot of games have that.
7)16 player games, meh, not my bag. Nothing compares to 4 player Goldeneye.

What's so great about halo?

My thoughts exactly.

[metabolic666]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

Yup YUp its gonna be bad ass ;D

[*kryogenix*]

Halo 2 is a good game, but I think the first person shooter genre is best reserved for the PC. It's a good game, but its quality is blown way out of proportion. Well, compared to most other Xbox games, it's a great game, but using other FPS's as a benchmark, it's not that great (Half-life was more ground breaking).

[Mr. Psychotic]

Halo 2 is a good game, but I think the first person shooter genre is best reserved for the PC. It's a good game, but its quality is blown way out of proportion. Well, compared to most other Xbox games, it's a great game, but using other FPS's as a benchmark, it's not that great (Half-life was more ground breaking).

YES! Half-life was better in the FPS genre.
Halo to me is just another game to waste time.

[DaTru KataLYST]

I see that you people who aren't so fond of Halo are questioning it. Fine, don't heed my word, but atleast take notice to the professional gaming companies that rave on it. I don't understand how it is too hyped. It's hyped because it's a good game. I would think a game that gets elite scores from every gaming review company would be hyped.

Maybe it's because I'm just a casual gamer, I don't look to critisize every game I encounter. You won't see me refuting that Goldeneye or Half-life wasn't one of the best or maybe the best. I just express how I feel. I've never researched these gaming statistics, like MS is losing billions from xbox and such, but I would think w/o Halo, MS would have scrapped the entire Xbox project.

To me, Halo was balanced in gameplay, and add on what every gaming company says, it's a good, fine, kick ass game. And I'm more inclined to believe professional critics than the likes of people like you guys or me - just amateurs.

You compared 4player Goldeneye to 16 player Halo....um....

If MS is losing billions, why are they bothering making Xbox2? Actually, why don't you cite your source so I can believe it, please.

[*kryogenix*]

I see that you people who aren't so fond of Halo are questioning it. Fine, don't heed my word, but atleast take notice to the professional gaming companies that rave on it. I don't understand how it is too hyped. It's hyped because it's a good game. I would think a game that gets elite scores from every gaming review company would be hyped.

Maybe it's because I'm just a casual gamer, I don't look to critisize every game I encounter. You won't see me refuting that Goldeneye or Half-life wasn't one of the best or maybe the best. I just express how I feel. I've never researched these gaming statistics, like MS is losing billions from xbox and such, but I would think w/o Halo, MS would have scrapped the entire Xbox project.

It's that halo gets too much credit. Way too much. Yes, Halo is what saved the xbox, so what? It's another FPS with a futuristic theme. People should get over it. The new Unreal Tournament is pretty much the same to me, but it doesn't get as much hype as Halo 2.

To me, Halo was balanced in gameplay, and add on what every gaming company says, it's a good, fine, kick ass game. And I'm more inclined to believe professional critics than the likes of people like you guys or me - just amateurs.

Sources? Amateur just means you don't get paid or refuses to be paid. Amateur does not tell you how skilled someone is. An amateur golfer beat Tiger Woods. Have you ever heard the phrase, the customer is always right? To the producing company, customer feedback is gold. Unlike magazines, the average gamers aren't paid millions in ad sales by different companies, therefore, they're less likely to be biased. There's a videogame store nearby which I believe is paid by microsoft, because all of their uniforms and hats say xbox, and they refer to the store as Xbox headquarters. Whenever I try to buy something, they always tell me the xbox is better, or the xbox version of the game is better. I listen to gamers like me, for their opinions, not some company that's being paid millions to advertise a product.

You compared 4player Goldeneye to 16 player Halo....um....

That was pretty good for it's time. Remember, this is the n64. What was that, like 90 mhz? You can only do 4 player on a single xbox, albeit it has better graphics, but still, you can't get 16 player without Live. To me, Half Life was ahead of its time. Graphics were good, compared to the rest of the stuff that came out, gameplay was fun and multiplayer was really fun. Why do you think people still play counterstrike today?

If MS is losing billions, why are they bothering making Xbox2? Actually, why don't you cite your source so I can believe it, please.

The same reason why they made the Y controller or whatever that smaller controller is called. They realized they messed up, so they have to make a better product to stay competitive. Yes they are losing billions, but still making a profit. That's because people are using modchips to pirate the games, which hurts the developers the most, but has it's toll on micro$oft's revenue.

I used google to find this. Took me: Results 1 - 10 of about 774 for microsoft losing billions on xbox sales. (0.30 seconds).

http://www.techspot.com/story4163.html

Oh yeah, check this out. No Xbox 2 in 2k5.

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Aug/...40802026277.htm

[CloudUnionX]

Im going up to gamestop tonight to get it, I have it reserved and fully paid for so I will be in the vip line, plus I get the special eddition.

Most gamestops are having a "party" around 9pm-1am. The gamestop by me is having a bbq, and a halo 1 tournament, plus their handing out goodies.

[DaTru KataLYST]

valid points kryo, but as halo2 is coming out tonight, I shant continue this heated discussion. So consider yourself the victor. =]


My bro and I are going to Gamestop for the halo2 party also! Kewl!

[MeanBastard]

halo is the best fps shooter.. hands down.. no other game had as much hype on a console (well any first person shooter at least). halo saved xbox, and the console industry itself. after halo came out... fans went crazy for more first person shooter... hoping that a better game would come out to fulfil thier gaming needs... but no other fps shooter can match halo.. its just.. impossible..

I give you....... EXAGGERATION AWARD!!!!!

[sm0kinm0nky]

i uesd to play halo 1 so much on pc and xbox. haha hopefully i can get my hands on halo2, the nearest gamestop by me is the one at the mall. and its gona be soldout very quick

[ThunderEvermore]

I see that you people who aren't so fond of Halo are questioning it. Fine, don't heed my word, but atleast take notice to the professional gaming companies that rave on it. I don't understand how it is too hyped. It's hyped because it's a good game. I would think a game that gets elite scores from every gaming review company would be hyped.

Maybe it's because I'm just a casual gamer, I don't look to critisize every game I encounter. You won't see me refuting that Goldeneye or Half-life wasn't one of the best or maybe the best. I just express how I feel. I've never researched these gaming statistics, like MS is losing billions from xbox and such, but I would think w/o Halo, MS would have scrapped the entire Xbox project.

To me, Halo was balanced in gameplay, and add on what every gaming company says, it's a good, fine, kick ass game. And I'm more inclined to believe professional critics than the likes of people like you guys or me - just amateurs.

You compared 4player Goldeneye to 16 player Halo....um....

If MS is losing billions, why are they bothering making Xbox2? Actually, why don't you cite your source so I can believe it, please.

Excuse me for my delayed response.

1) Gaming reviews are based upon the opinion of the person, which can be biased and mislead. Granted, as can mine, but I guarantee I can come up with compelling evidence towards the crappiness of Halo that cant be disproven by any more than "hal0 r0x0rs".

2) We all critique every game we come across, we have to, we like a game when we like it, we dont when we dont, its a critique every time. I didnt like Halo, it bored me, both single and multiplayer. I found it to have many flaws, and excuse me if I grew up on Goldeneye, but its quite a thing to measure up to.

3) Yes I compared 4 player GE to 16 player Halo, I find GE to still be > Halo.

4) Why would they bother? Its Microsoft! One, they never admit defeat, two, they can afford it. With Windows being practically the only OS out there for PC users its fairly easy for them to make up that kind of money.

5)

Profits from the Xbox? Not in this lifetime. The Xbox Division, which is part of the Home and Entertainment Division of the company, consistently posts losses each quarter. Consistently over $100 million each quarter lost in the Home and Entertainment Division fiscals have been seen for the past year, with the Xbox making up a huge part of those losses.

Microsoft's first fiscal quarter (July 1 to September 30)SEC filing shows that the Home and Entertainment Division lost $273 million dollars between July 2003 and September 2003, despite an increase of revenue by $96 million over the same quarter the previous year (IE the Home and Entertainment Division brought in $96 million more than the previous year's same fiscal quarter, but ended up losing $28 million more than the previous year's same fiscal quarter's loss of $245 million). And Microsoft's most current SEC filing shows a loss of $241 million in the Home and Entertainment Division for the final calendar quarter of 2003. For this quarter, though, Microsoft actually managed to lose less money than the same fiscal quarter a year before.

Since the Xbox launched, the Home and Entertainment Division has seen financial losses approaching $1 billion per year. The losses are $880 million and $990 million per fiscal year, respectively. Add in the $273 million lost in Microsoft's fiscal Q1 (calendar Q3), and $241 million lost in fiscal Q2 (calendar Q4) and we get $2.384 billion lost since the launch of the Xbox.

Source

[mechwarrior1989]

Technically, Halo was not "overhyped" since there was very little hype when it was released. It became known through word of mouth. Very few games can claim this, even EGM has stated this, well the former of my statements. Because Halo 2 has not been released quite yet, 2 hours and 13 minutes more for me, you cannot yet state that it was overhyped unless you have already played it and know for a fact that it is a let down, and it won't be, but that's just my opinion.


And to stop any argument, when Xbox was first launched, microsoft lost money on every concil (yes i know that's not spelt right) that was sold, they were to make up losses in the hardware through money made in the software. This was microsofts marketing strategy in an attempt to undercut Gamecube and PS2, dont' ask me for sources because I long forgot them. Whether they lose money now is debatable since things like a 733mhz Celeron processor, 64mb ram and custom gforce graphics chipset would probably be very cheap plus other things such as the dvd-rom drive and harddrive are all very cheap and really not worth mentioning.

Also I might add, Microsoft has a lot of money sitting in banks, they can afford to lose some money in order to carve out a market segment for itself. Xbox is merely a test subject, hardly perfect. It was a pioneer which microsoft hoped that it would help to carve out enough of the market that it would warrent an Xbox 2 and then even more systems to come. It is all longer term thinking on microsoft's part which is very smart if I might say so myself.

[DaTru KataLYST]

ok thunder,


You win too! But I still get to play halo 2!



So I win too!

[eboarder2020]

ITS HERE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!! Today is the day where the common people and the nerds of the world come together for one thing... THE GAME THAT WILL BE THE GOD OF ALL GAMES.... I never thought this day would come!

[CloudUnionX]

I just got back, I got halo 2 special eddition.



Later all you suckers that dont have it yet.
=p

[cookiethief]

OMG JORDAN! i want halo 2 -_- i love halo though.

[whomps]

OGMOGMOGMOGMOGMGOMGOmgGMGJORDAN!!!

[xquizit]

I didn't reserve a copy because my BF was suppossed to... and he didn't.

Now I'm screwed.

[*Weird addiction*]

it came to belgium today the 9th of november but it wuz supposed to be here tomorrow the 10th but oh well and it costs 52 euros,haha,my dad is gonna buy it and im not gonna sleep!! yayayayay....im such a nerd!!

[ThunderEvermore]

Technically, Halo was not "overhyped" since there was very little hype when it was released. It became known through word of mouth. Very few games can claim this, even EGM has stated this, well the former of my statements. Because Halo 2 has not been released quite yet, 2 hours and 13 minutes more for me, you cannot yet state that it was overhyped unless you have already played it and know for a fact that it is a let down, and it won't be, but that's just my opinion.

Ok lets see.

Ive seen a thousand people sit there and tell me Halo is the greatest FPS ever, or even the greatest game ever.

Thats overhype if I ever heard it.

As for Halo 2, the hype its getting is the same, "greatest game ever", etc, and that, to me, is impossible to reach, and therefore is overhype.

Besides, its a fact that Halo 2 is more of the same Halo was, which was pretty sucky. Mechanics and such. There is little Halo 2 has to offer in terms of originality to the series.

[goofipinay]

can u believe none of my friends even hav an xbox??? lol

[Heathasm]

yep, pre-ordered it
had 3 other people here to play too at like midnight on the big screen tv lmao

[*kryogenix*]

haha, my friend had it earlier today, and he got it for free too.

[DaTru KataLYST]

yay! I got it at midnight! =) I finished the first level. =] And now I have to go do homework!

*nostalgia rush*

I got the limited collector's edition too!

[mechwarrior1989]

Ok lets see.

Ive seen a thousand people sit there and tell me Halo is the greatest FPS ever, or even the greatest game ever.

Thats overhype if I ever heard it.

As for Halo 2, the hype its getting is the same, "greatest game ever", etc, and that, to me, is impossible to reach, and therefore is overhype.

Besides, its a fact that Halo 2 is more of the same Halo was, which was pretty sucky. Mechanics and such. There is little Halo 2 has to offer in terms of originality to the series.

I'm talking pre-launch overhype. I mean how many people did you see saying that it would completely revolutionize FPS and save XBox, not many. It doesn't matter afterwords, cause that's all word of mouth and as such that doesn't count.

There's no need to bash Halo or Halo 2 if you don't like it, this thread was meant to discuss Halo 2 and the launch of Halo 2, if you don't like a game, then don't look at the thread. Plus things like Mechanics and physics don't always matter all that much, so what if your game seems more realistic? Is that gonna really change the gaming experiance all that much that you make a decision between whether you play it or not?

Yes, Halo 2 doesn't really add all that originality to the series, whether you're refering to FPS or Halo in general but as a large population believes that Halo was pretty much perfect as it was there wasn't really a need to improve on it much more. Plus if you look at all the features you have a lot more new stuff over the original to enhance the experiance, mulitplayer for instance now has bots, online play, new modes of play, playing as covenant, dual wielding, and so on and so forth. Single player gets rid of a great deal of repetivness of the original, it also has some missions where you play as the covenant. There are also new weapons and vehicles, and new ways to play the game, new characters and such.

Plus if you want originality, name a recent FPS that has been truely original. You won't come up with many, if any at all since they are all basically clones of other FPS's. Same as almost any other genre, does that mean we shouldn't buy any new games until they come out with something original? I think not, otherwise we'd still be sitting around playing Counter-Strike.

[ThunderEvermore]

I'm talking pre-launch overhype. I mean how many people did you see saying that it would completely revolutionize FPS and save XBox, not many. It doesn't matter afterwords, cause that's all word of mouth and as such that doesn't count.

There's no need to bash Halo or Halo 2 if you don't like it, this thread was meant to discuss Halo 2 and the launch of Halo 2, if you don't like a game, then don't look at the thread. Plus things like Mechanics and physics don't always matter all that much, so what if your game seems more realistic? Is that gonna really change the gaming experiance all that much that you make a decision between whether you play it or not?

Yes, Halo 2 doesn't really add all that originality to the series, whether you're refering to FPS or Halo in general but as a large population believes that Halo was pretty much perfect as it was there wasn't really a need to improve on it much more. Plus if you look at all the features you have a lot more new stuff over the original to enhance the experiance, mulitplayer for instance now has bots, online play, new modes of play, playing as covenant, dual wielding, and so on and so forth. Single player gets rid of a great deal of repetivness of the original, it also has some missions where you play as the covenant. There are also new weapons and vehicles, and new ways to play the game, new characters and such.

Plus if you want originality, name a recent FPS that has been truely original. You won't come up with many, if any at all since they are all basically clones of other FPS's. Same as almost any other genre, does that mean we shouldn't buy any new games until they come out with something original? I think not, otherwise we'd still be sitting around playing Counter-Strike.

1) Im talking OVERHYPE. All of it. It didnt revolutionize FPSes, I dont see how it could have, and it didnt save the Xbox either, considering it 1, didnt need saving, and 2, is still in the hole.

2) Im discussing Halo 2 and Halo just as much as anyone here, just because Im looking at the negative side doesnt mean my voice should be silenced.

3) Realism changes the game experience greatly. Things like mechanics and physics make the gameplay. Personally I didnt like Halo's mechanics, and the ability to jump twenty feet into the air wasnt exactly realistic, not to mention the lack of gravity on bullets and so on and so forth.

4) Halo seemed perfect to people because they just thought it was fun. Its incredibly imperfect in terms of gaming and such is the reason I dislike it.

5) Alot of people ARE still sitting around play CS, and such is my point. Recent originality? How about PlanetSide and its implement of MMO gaming with RPG style experience in order to learn new skills in the heat of real battle.

Many or not, Halo isnt perfect, it ISNT the greatest game ever, nor the greatest FPS ever. This is what annoys me to no end. If you people admitted that you just play it because it brings you entertainment, however mediocre it is, I would be fine with it and be less overbearing. But you get these kids in here telling me its the greatest and its revolutionary and it saved console gaming and I tend to flip out, considering the fact that Halo had very little impact on the gaming world. Sure it spurred on a tournament series and more kids bought an Xbox for one reason or another, but theres alot more games that do alot more to the industry that get looked over because 'h4l0 is teh r0x0rz'.

[xquizit]

I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT

today.

My daddy bought it for me. Me so happy.

[Justingamemaster]

Gamestop is so poser...i reserved the limited edition one, but they ran out and sold me the lame regular one.

The only thing good about the limited edition one is the case...



Anyway, for all you that say halo 2 isn't that great, nobody really cares what you think (especially microsoft) because halo 2 grossed over $125 million dollars.

[.edit//in the first day, mind you.]

But, sad to say, i am disappointed at the LAME ending of HALO 2. It's freaking gay! My friend and i beat the whole game in one sitting, from 5 in the morning to about 2 PM...that's how addicted we were. We killed Tartarsauce (whatever that evil brute's name is) and we seen a lame movie, the ending movie (we didn't know at the time). As we were watching the credits, we were saying, "This can't be the ending! We haven't even blown anything huge up yet (as in halo itself)!"

A bag of chips and 10 minutes later, we heard the opening of halo 2 and to my suprise, we were at the main menu. We quickly checked to see if we realyl beat the game (if you beat game you get the "Foundation" multiplayer level). Guess what. WE DID!


We then proceeded to test out all the multiplayer maps on Xbox Live, and it was pretty fun for a while, but then it got boring fast (if fast is about 3 hours). So, we started to play the game on Legendary, and it was pretty awesome. So far, we got up to "The Arbiter". We started at around 6:00 PM, and right now it's 9:00, so i think we are doing pretty good. Freaking hard on legendary...
I'll post again (if i'm not tired) when we beat the game.

[*stephinika*]

oh man all my friends who have xbox preordered and got the collector's edition. even the case is gorgeous hahaha and they got the free mini figurines! they're awesome. lol but yeah i played it for the first time today...so awesome. i love it.

[DaTru KataLYST]

question to the people who finish the game in one sitting:

why do you finish it in one saving? why not pace yourself? ok, stupid question, if I could play all night/day I would. Why don't you play on heroic/legendary then? =] Makes it harder, and I don't see how you can finish the game in one sitting after that.

*shrug* unless your an incredibly elite gamer.

[mechwarrior1989]

1) Im talking OVERHYPE. All of it. It didnt revolutionize FPSes, I dont see how it could have, and it didnt save the Xbox either, considering it 1, didnt need saving, and 2, is still in the hole.

2) Im discussing Halo 2 and Halo just as much as anyone here, just because Im looking at the negative side doesnt mean my voice should be silenced.

3) Realism changes the game experience greatly.  Things like mechanics and physics make the gameplay. Personally I didnt like Halo's mechanics, and the ability to jump twenty feet into the air wasnt exactly realistic, not to mention the lack of gravity on bullets and so on and so forth.

4) Halo seemed perfect to people because they just thought it was fun. Its incredibly imperfect in terms of gaming and such is the reason I dislike it.

5) Alot of people ARE still sitting around play CS, and such is my point. Recent originality? How about PlanetSide and its implement of MMO gaming with RPG style experience in order to learn new skills in the heat of real battle.

Many or not, Halo isnt perfect, it ISNT the greatest game ever, nor the greatest FPS ever. This is what annoys me to no end. If you people admitted that you just play it because it brings you entertainment, however mediocre it is, I would be fine with it and be less overbearing. But you get these kids in here telling me its the greatest and its revolutionary and it saved console gaming and I tend to flip out, considering the fact that Halo had very little impact on the gaming world. Sure it spurred on a tournament series and more kids bought an Xbox for one reason or another, but theres alot more games that do alot more to the industry that get looked over because 'h4l0 is teh r0x0rz'.

I meant perfect as in gameplaywise people thought it worked well and they could play it and it was fun. Realims changes the experience yes, but YOU were saying that Halo was sucky because of it's mechanics. The reason you could jump twenty feet (you're actually only jumping about 10 Master Chief is seven feet tall.) in the air had to do with the fact that Master Chief is a Spartan, genetically modified to perform better, than any human alive, his suit alone is half a ton which also provides him with extra power, he can lift cars with one hand for crying out loud. Though it is a bit floaty which is kinda weird and plus no one said the gravity on Halo was 1:1 with the gravity on earth, for all we know it could be 1/2 earth's gravity which would make it so you could jump pretty damn high. Plus by you saying it isn't the greatest game ever is only your opinion and by saying that, you're trying to supress the opinion's of others, something you're saying we're doing so by doing so you're being a hypocrite. Just beccause YOU don't think it's the best game ever doesn't mean other people dont' think that. You have even stated earlier that reviews are merely the opinion of the reviewer. And it did save XBox seeing as how it was the only launch game that actually moved, in a distant second was Project Gotham racing which didn't even sell half as many copies as Halo. Yes and how many copies did PlanetSide sell before being take off shelves? Of course people still play CS because it was fun, and it was far from perfect as well but you still see people going around saying CS is the best game every blah blah blah etc etc. Plus Halo itself was not completely original, but the story line, character design, and other things such as recharging shield and what not were. Though they borrowed from other sources, they are still more or less original. Nothing can be completely original, all must have some point of insperation and as such will have some similarity.

[Justingamemaster]

question to the people who finish the game in one sitting:

why do you finish it in one saving? why not pace yourself? ok, stupid question, if I could play all night/day I would. Why don't you play on heroic/legendary then? =] Makes it harder, and I don't see how you can finish the game in one sitting after that.

*shrug* unless your an incredibly elite gamer.

We just wanted to beat it fast so we could get the multiplayer map "Foundation" and so we could understand the story and find out what happens to master chief/cortana etc.

We beat the game. On legendary. Just 5 minutes ago.

Last boss = Uber Hard.

But pacing yourself in halo is kinda hard because it seems like my xbox hypnotized me to play.

So now that we beat it on legendary, we must beat it on easy and heroic. I wonder what lies in store when you beat it on all difficulties

[bellpepper]

[QUOTE]But, sad to say, i am disappointed at the LAME ending of HALO 2

I agree. But the other than that the game still meet up all of my expections.

[*kryogenix*]

I meant perfect as in gameplaywise people thought it worked well and they could play it and it was fun. Realims changes the experience yes, but YOU were saying that Halo was sucky because of it's mechanics. The reason you could jump twenty feet (you're actually only jumping about 10 Master Chief is seven feet tall.) in the air had to do with the fact that Master Chief is a Spartan, genetically modified to perform better, than any human alive, his suit alone is half a ton which also provides him with extra power, he can lift cars with one hand for crying out loud. Though it is a bit floaty which is kinda weird and plus no one said the gravity on Halo was 1:1 with the gravity on earth, for all we know it could be 1/2 earth's gravity which would make it so you could jump pretty damn high.

Doesn't the game partially take place on earth? Why would the earth not be at 1 G? Even if he is strong enough to jump that high, he should fall down faster than he does in the game. And in the first Halo, the game takes place on Ringworld, which seems to be a lot smaller than earth, so it should have less gravity (unless the whole world spins really fast to create pseudo gravity).

Plus by you saying it isn't the greatest game ever is only your opinion and by saying that, you're trying to supress the opinion's of others, something you're saying we're doing so by doing so you're being a hypocrite. Just beccause YOU don't think it's the best game ever doesn't mean other people dont' think that. You have even stated earlier that reviews are merely the opinion of the reviewer.

How is he trying to suppress another person's opinion? It's an argument, people disagree, get over it.

And it did save XBox seeing as how it was the only launch game that actually moved, in a distant second was Project Gotham racing which didn't even sell half as many copies as Halo. Yes and how many copies did PlanetSide sell before being take off shelves? Of course people still play CS because it was fun, and it was far from perfect as well but you still see people going around saying CS is the best game every blah blah blah etc etc.

What year did CS come out? The was reason it was so great was that Half-Life was far ahead of its time. It was like, Doom, to Quake, to Half-Life.

Plus Halo itself was not completely original, but the story line, character design, and other things such as recharging shield and what not were. Though they borrowed from other sources, they are still more or less original. Nothing can be completely original, all must have some point of insperation and as such will have some similarity.

That planet look familiar?

It's a pretty good book. Ringworld, by Larry Niven. Support your local library.

[karrar]

any body else pissed at the ending?

yeesh atleast we still got multi player

[*Weird addiction*]

its soooo f**king wonderful i love itt!!!!

[mechwarrior1989]

Doesn't the game partially take place on earth? Why would the earth not be at 1 G? Even if he is strong enough to jump that high, he should fall down faster than he does in the game. And in the first Halo, the game takes place on Ringworld, which seems to be a lot smaller than earth, so it should have less gravity (unless the whole world spins really fast to create pseudo gravity).

I was talking about the first Halo and that's what I said that it probably has less gravity which would cause him to jump higher... You're right that he should fall faster though on earth but I did say that it is a bit floaty and weird.

[mechwarrior1989]

What year did CS come out? The was reason it was so great was that Half-Life was far ahead of its time. It was like, Doom, to Quake, to Half-Life.

Huh? Yea it was ahead of its time, what are you trying to say, this doesn't exactly say anything about what you quoted.

That planet look familiar?

It's a pretty good book. Ringworld, by Larry Niven. Support your local library.

I didn't only talk about the fact that it was on a ringed planet you know. I even said that it isn't completely original. Though you listing the books, I might just go and check out Ringworld.

[Justingamemaster]

Wow the second ring pic looks exactly like that in the first halo opening.

You know what else is poser about halo 2? The whole goddamn story...it was pretty much the same as halo except with more guns n shet. As your playing through the first few levels, all of a sudden, there is another halo! Something else was that it was NOTHING like the E3 demo. Did you guys see it? Before they all kine crazy shet like about 4 different types of warthogs, not including the regular ones, they also had faster needlers, the ability to peek around corners, and even a single shot rifle.

I'm so dissapointed. The only thing good about Halo 2 is Xbox live...that's about it.

The clan system rocks!!
If you want to battle us add me to your friends: OrangeOwnage and Hue GRECLION

I think we are rank 300 and we jsut started today... ...we are the Elements 808.

[ThunderEvermore]

1) Realism doesnt just take place in gravity. Everyone says how balanced the guns are. Since when in real life are guns balanced? Never. Id sooner use a 12 gage to blow down some people than a pistol, why? More damage over a wider area. And then theres the driving, the sliding effects arent exactly realistic, especially in a warthog, which Im assuming was made for offroad driving, and yet will spin out faster than my mom when she's drunk. Oh yeah, and suit weighing half a ton = harder to jump. But maybe thats just my physics class taking over.

2) Its not the greatest game ever. NOT. Im not stating an opinion, Im stating a fact.

3) So what if it sold? That hardly means it saved ANYTHING. Especially considering the lack of sales of the Xbox anywhere but the US, and the lack of profit coming in for Microsoft. But maybe Im crazy, maybe losing billions is a GOOD thing. Im obviously out of the loop.

4)

Plus Halo itself was not completely original, but the story line, character design, and other things such as recharging shield and what not were. Though they borrowed from other sources, they are still more or less original. Nothing can be completely original, all must have some point of insperation and as such will have some similarity.

The story line resembles every Gundam movie/show known to man. Giant colony can destroy the world and one man in a robosuit has to stop it. Whoopdie doo. Recharging shield? Original? More like ridiculous. It makes it even more unrealistic. I mean a shield, on top of a half ton of armor? Common, seriously. And no, nothing can truly be original, but theres a difference between that and blatantly ripping from sources. Its like the Lion King. I mean seriously.

What have you shown to be a pro about Halo other than sales and fun factor? Nothing. And I dont even find it that fun. The multi games are unimaginative and the weapons lack quality and quantity. Theres just something about playing 4x4 Goldeneye, searching your ass off for a proximity mine so you can kill a bunch of people before someone snipes you off or drags you into your own trap or something. Theres something more exciting about having a goal, something to go after. Halo has nothing like that. Your "balanced" weapons just create a goal-less game that requires little skill.

It bores me, really.

[*kryogenix*]

Theres just something about playing 4x4 Goldeneye, searching your ass off for a proximity mine so you can kill a bunch of people before someone snipes you off or drags you into your own trap or something.

Actually, I liked the remote mines, and the a+b trick Favorite stage for me was facility.

I'm so dissapointed. The only thing good about Halo 2 is Xbox live...that's about it.

didn't you also say:

Anyway, for all you that say halo 2 isn't that great, nobody really cares what you think (especially microsoft) because halo 2 grossed over $125 million dollars.

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[EddieV]

I'm so obsessed with Halo that my friends and I have like a Halo clique in school. So far only one team beat us...

[CherryChik07]

My brothers and I just got XBOX LIVE last night.. holy crap it's so sweeeet! We played HALO 2 on it and we totally killed.. haha.. it was great!

Yeah, I definitely think HALO 2 is the best video game.. IMHO,

[XxtremeRickyX]

My brothers and I just got XBOX LIVE last night.. holy crap it's so sweeeet! We played HALO 2 on it and we totally killed.. haha.. it was great!

Yeah, I definitely think HALO 2 is the best video game.. IMHO,

DUDE halo 2 is so sweet when you play it live some people get murdered then theres those people that live for it and can kill you in a second

[Justingamemaster]

Actually, I liked the remote mines, and the a+b trick Favorite stage for me was facility.

I'm so dissapointed. The only thing good about Halo 2 is Xbox live...that's about it.

didn't you also say:

Anyway, for all you that say halo 2 isn't that great, nobody really cares what you think (especially microsoft) because halo 2 grossed over $125 million dollars.

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hmm I am dissapointed, and yet, i enjoy it.

I guess it's just campaign mode that i dislike about this game...no objectives, no set goals, like halo 1, where they would say "save the marines" and cortana would talk to you and stuff.

[mechwarrior1989]

1) Realism doesnt just take place in gravity. Everyone says how balanced the guns are. Since when in real life are guns balanced? Never. Id sooner use a 12 gage to blow down some people than a pistol, why? More damage over a wider area. And then theres the driving, the sliding effects arent exactly realistic, especially in a warthog, which Im assuming was made for offroad driving, and yet will spin out faster than my mom when she's drunk. Oh yeah, and suit weighing half a ton = harder to jump. But maybe thats just my physics class taking over.

2) Its not the greatest game ever. NOT. Im not stating an opinion, Im stating a fact.

3) So what if it sold? That hardly means it saved ANYTHING. Especially considering the lack of sales of the Xbox anywhere but the US, and the lack of profit coming in for Microsoft. But maybe Im crazy, maybe losing billions is a GOOD thing. Im obviously out of the loop.

4) The story line resembles every Gundam movie/show known to man. Giant colony can destroy the world and one man in a robosuit has to stop it. Whoopdie doo. Recharging shield? Original? More like ridiculous. It makes it even more unrealistic. I mean a shield, on top of a half ton of armor? Common, seriously. And no, nothing can truly be original, but theres a difference between that and blatantly ripping from sources. Its like the Lion King. I mean seriously.

What have you shown to be a pro about Halo other than sales and fun factor? Nothing. And I dont even find it that fun. The multi games are unimaginative and the weapons lack quality and quantity. Theres just something about playing 4x4 Goldeneye, searching your ass off for a proximity mine so you can kill a bunch of people before someone snipes you off or drags you into your own trap or something. Theres something more exciting about having a goal, something to go after. Halo has nothing like that. Your "balanced" weapons just create a goal-less game that requires little skill.

It bores me, really.

1) The suit weighing 1/2 ton inproves his strength, plus there's the already neuro and strength enhancements that he has like I already said, he could easily lift cars if he wanted to, jumping wouldn't be a problem. Because a suit weighing 1/2 ton = hard to jump when you don't have the force to make it move. Assuming the average human weighs 150 lbs and can has the strength to life 50lbs easily, the average car weighs in exess of 1 ton. Do the math, if Master Chief can lift a car, then he must have the strengh to be able to jump wearing that suit. In case you still don't get it, 2,000/50=40 150*40=6,000, if we assume the ratio of his arm strength to average human's arm strength is the same as his jumping ability to the average humans, then he could jump with 6,000lbs. I think we can safely assume that Master Chief does not weigh 5,000lbs and as such could easily jump the height which he does jump.

2) Stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. It is a fact however that stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. There is never a fact for something being the best. Everything is based on opinion. The only way you could say something is the best if there is only one realistic way of looking at it, for example, getting an A is better than failing. Unless of course you're trying to fail, then it wouldn't be.

3) Microsoft doesn't have to make money for it to have been saved by selling Xbox; even if it was "saved" it'd still be losing money since it loses money on every single XBox. Its business strategy isn't to make money on each XBox, it's to carve out a chunk of the market for future Microsoft counsels and also to make money on game licenses.

4) And what does Gundam resemble? There are way more games that just Halo where one guy must go and save the whole world. And also, if you don't know Halo doesn't exactly take place in the 21st century. Maybe you should wake up to that fact. I don't think Gundams are exactly realistic either, nor are many other things in games/television. It isn't blatanly ripped from anywhere. Saying that it was blatantly ripped from Gundam because you walk around in a suit and try to save the world is completely asinine. What next? Are you going to tell us that the Matrix was blatantly ripped from works of the ancients or anime because they borrowed ideas from them? What is your goal in Goldeneye? Oh yea, it's to kill the other people... REAL imaginative there. The first Halo does NOT have balanced weapons. Needler for instance is a lot less powerful than say the shot gun. Plus as a shotgun should be, it is less affective at longer range. Snipers are good for long range and are extremely deadly. How is that balanced at all? In Halo 2 they have "rebalanced" the weapons, that doesn't mean that some are preferred over others. Just because you might have the best weapon in the game doesn't mean that you will win. Having "balanced" weapons doesn't mean that you don't have a goal.

[ThunderEvermore]

1) The suit weighing 1/2 ton inproves his strength, plus there's the already neuro and strength enhancements that he has like I already said, he could easily lift cars if he wanted to, jumping wouldn't be a problem. Because a suit weighing 1/2 ton = hard to jump when you don't have the force to make it move. Assuming the average human weighs 150 lbs and can has the strength to life 50lbs easily, the average car weighs in exess of 1 ton. Do the math, if Master Chief can lift a car, then he must have the strengh to be able to jump wearing that suit. In case you still don't get it, 2,000/50=40 150*40=6,000, if we assume the ratio of his arm strength to average human's arm strength is the same as his jumping ability to the average humans, then he could jump with 6,000lbs. I think we can safely assume that Master Chief does not weigh 5,000lbs and as such could easily jump the height which he does jump.

2) Stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. It is a fact however that stating that it isn't the greatest game ever is an opinion. There is never a fact for something being the best. Everything is based on opinion. The only way you could say something is the best if there is only one realistic way of looking at it, for example, getting an A is better than failing. Unless of course you're trying to fail, then it wouldn't be.

3) Microsoft doesn't have to make money for it to have been saved by selling Xbox; even if it was "saved" it'd still be losing money since it loses money on every single XBox. Its business strategy isn't to make money on each XBox, it's to carve out a chunk of the market for future Microsoft counsels and also to make money on game licenses.

4) And what does Gundam resemble? There are way more games that just Halo where one guy must go and save the whole world. And also, if you don't know Halo doesn't exactly take place in the 21st century. Maybe you should wake up to that fact. I don't think Gundams are exactly realistic either, nor are many other things in games/television. It isn't blatanly ripped from anywhere. Saying that it was blatantly ripped from Gundam because you walk around in a suit and try to save the world is completely asinine. What next? Are you going to tell us that the Matrix was blatantly ripped from works of the ancients or anime because they borrowed ideas from them? What is your goal in Goldeneye? Oh yea, it's to kill the other people... REAL imaginative there. The first Halo does NOT have balanced weapons. Needler for instance is a lot less powerful than say the shot gun. Plus as a shotgun should be, it is less affective at longer range. Snipers are good for long range and are extremely deadly. How is that balanced at all? In Halo 2 they have "rebalanced" the weapons, that doesn't mean that some are preferred over others. Just because you might have the best weapon in the game doesn't mean that you will win. Having "balanced" weapons doesn't mean that you don't have a goal.

1) Lifting a car and jumping require two different muscles and thus two different kinds of strength. Your comparison is invalid. Now whether or not he can lift a car I question. But still, you pointed out the floating as well, and despite his strength the height is still a bit unrealistic. That and you didnt dispute my gun comments.

2) If there is never a fact of something being the best, THEN ITS A FACT THAT ITS NOT THE BEST. Wow, turn around logic.

3) Which they dont. Microsoft loses billions in their gaming department. This isnt just due to the loss of on every piece of hardware, that would have to include lacking game sales. And even if it didnt, that is still a lot of money lost on consoles, far more than any other console developer, I guarantee.

4) Gundam resembles nearly every anime ever created. But Im not saying it is a mere resemblance, Im saying its very much alike. With the floating colony and it destroying the world and such. And sure, things rarely come that are original, but there are varying levels of originality, and Halo lacks in such.

5) When I spoke of goals in goldeneye I was speaking of the progressing gun power. You take my words out of context. A needler is immensely powerful given a few moments, and the fact that the needles home in on its victims. A sniper is always good for long range, but so is a needler, and a pistol, and a plasma rifle, and most anything you could think of in that game. I could take out an Elite from long range with an Assault Rifle fairly well.

6) At least Goldeneye had a resonably good plot. I mean, it was based on the greatest spy movie franchise ever.

7) The Matrix was a blatant rip off of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

[*Statistik*]

I think i like counter-strike better..well becuz i've never played halo 2

[mechwarrior1989]

1) Lifting a car and jumping require two different muscles and thus two different kinds of strength. Your comparison is invalid. Now whether or not he can lift a car I question. But still, you pointed out the floating as well, and despite his strength the height is still a bit unrealistic. That and you didnt dispute my gun comments.

2) If there is never a fact of something being the best, THEN ITS A FACT THAT ITS NOT THE BEST. Wow, turn around logic.

3) Which they dont. Microsoft loses billions in their gaming department. This isnt just due to the loss of on every piece of hardware, that would have to include lacking game sales. And even if it didnt, that is still a lot of money lost on consoles, far more than any other console developer, I guarantee.

4) Gundam resembles nearly every anime ever created. But Im not saying it is a mere resemblance, Im saying its very much alike. With the floating colony and it destroying the world and such. And sure, things rarely come that are original, but there are varying levels of originality, and Halo lacks in such.

5) When I spoke of goals in goldeneye I was speaking of the progressing gun power. You take my words out of context. A needler is immensely powerful given a few moments, and the fact that the needles home in on its victims. A sniper is always good for long range, but so is a needler, and a pistol, and a plasma rifle, and most anything you could think of in that game. I could take out an Elite from long range with an Assault Rifle fairly well.

6) At least Goldeneye had a resonably good plot. I mean, it was based on the greatest spy movie franchise ever.

7) The Matrix was a blatant rip off of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

1) Of course they require different muscles, I'm attempting to make a point that his strength is more than enough to jump. He's not going to have a huge muscular upperbody with no muscles in his legs because then he wouldn't be able to walk at all. The guns aren't balanced in Halo, ask any experianced player and they'll tell you that the Needler was weak, period. Yes it's cool that it can follow people but it doesn't do anything as a gun. I'll address your latter points here as well, why should you be able to take out an elite with an assult rifle? It's still a gun. Pistols are good at medium range, you can't snipe anyone from accross the map with a pistol, plasma rifles are just basically assult rifles, nothing special there at all. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, if you're playing against good people you'll know when to use each gun. You aren't going to try and snipe someone with an assult rifle and you'll find that even if you do hit it does like nothing. As in real life, weapons do less damage over longer ranges.

2) Yea, got me there, I was setting myself up for that. I took it in a different context as in there is a game that is the best and Halo isn't it.

3) It doesn't matter that Microsoft loses some money. As I have repeatedly said, they are attempting to take a bite out of the market. You can't expect them to take the entire market on their first try. It is actually surprising that they are doing this well. Most first attempts into already set markets fail, microsoft got lucky and they know this. They can take the loses because this is a long term deal.

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7. How the Hell are you getting that the matrix is blatantly ripped from snow white? Unless you're talking about the prince kissing snow white and her coming back to life. I'd like to know that. But Matrix is actual derived from texts by the ancients and some random anime and manga. I forgot the name of the work, but it was about how you would know if something was real or not if you had never experianced it, like if there were people who were chained to a cave wall, and all they saw were shadow animals and stuff, what would happen when they went out of that cave and what not. Very matrix-ish.

[faithin_felix]

ohh i played it few days ago at my friends house, i can't tell the difference between halo and halo 2. lol

[ThunderEvermore]

1) Of course they require different muscles, I'm attempting to make a point that his strength is more than enough to jump. He's not going to have a huge muscular upperbody with no muscles in his legs because then he wouldn't be able to walk at all. The guns aren't balanced in Halo, ask any experianced player and they'll tell you that the Needler was weak, period. Yes it's cool that it can follow people but it doesn't do anything as a gun. I'll address your latter points here as well, why should you be able to take out an elite with an assult rifle? It's still a gun. Pistols are good at medium range, you can't snipe anyone from accross the map with a pistol, plasma rifles are just basically assult rifles, nothing special there at all. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, if you're playing against good people you'll know when to use each gun. You aren't going to try and snipe someone with an assult rifle and you'll find that even if you do hit it does like nothing. As in real life, weapons do less damage over longer ranges.

2) Yea, got me there, I was setting myself up for that. I took it in a different context as in there is a game that is the best and Halo isn't it.

3) It doesn't matter that Microsoft loses some money. As I have repeatedly said, they are attempting to take a bite out of the market. You can't expect them to take the entire market on their first try. It is actually surprising that they are doing this well. Most first attempts into already set markets fail, microsoft got lucky and they know this. They can take the loses because this is a long term deal.

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7. How the Hell are you getting that the matrix is blatantly ripped from snow white? Unless you're talking about the prince kissing snow white and her coming back to life. I'd like to know that. But Matrix is actual derived from texts by the ancients and some random anime and manga. I forgot the name of the work, but it was about how you would know if something was real or not if you had never experianced it, like if there were people who were chained to a cave wall, and all they saw were shadow animals and stuff, what would happen when they went out of that cave and what not. Very matrix-ish.

1) Right, because the whole exploding needles doesnt do anything. And when I said that about the assault rifle, I meant i CAN, not that I SHOULD. And in real life, one shot can pretty much take down/maim someone, if not kill them. But, alas, not so true in our 'realistic' game.

2) You sweep off their losses as just another jump into gaming, and its not, rarely do any companies lose BILLIONS OF DOLLARS at all, let alone doing it and still surviving. The ONLY, and I mean ONLY reason MS is still in the gaming business is because of Windows, and its stranglehold over the OS market. Theyre filthy stinking rich, so losing enough money to crush a hundred companies at once isnt all that much. Theyre still losing, infact, they are doing horribly in worldwide sales, being crushed by Sony and Nintendo.

3) And I was joking about the Snow White comment, it was sarcasm.

ohh i played it few days ago at my friends house, i can't tell the difference between halo and halo 2. lol

Theres not really much of one.

[mechwarrior1989]

You know what, I'm really bored of coming on createblog can coming here to see how you've responded to my comments and then responding to your's. How about we agree to disagree, drop the subject and let this thread die in peace.

[uhoh_its_aria]

Halo is da shiiiiiet. I <3 it.

[*kryogenix*]

bringing this back up, because it was rated as game of the year by gamespy.

This is the ultimate overrated game of the year. The comments are atrocious.

Justin: Few games come tailor-made for success like Halo 2, but it still surprised me with how damn good it ended up being. Once again Bungie innovates in several ways -- new vehicles, dual-wielding, the deadly melee weapon -- that are sure to be poorly ripped off by lesser games for years to come.

I'm sorry, did he say Halo 2 is the first time these things were in an FPS?

Vehicles, dual-wielding and melee weapons were in use WAY before Halo. Why is he trying to say games will try to rip these concepts from Halo 2, when Halo 2 was not the first game to have these things?

Single-player was enough to keep me busy and satisfied, but battling on Xbox Live is the closest thing a console game has come to online perfection. Matchmaking keeps you from being overwhelmed by unfair competition, the maps were meticulously thought out, and the depth of the statistics will please any anal number cruncher like myself. I can't believe how well the headset works. I've spent countless minutes just talking to friends between matches.

Not even going to touch this.

Halo 2 is the kind of game that not only brings accolades to itself, but elevates its platform. It's proven to be the game to own -- thus making Xbox, Xbox Live, and its headset things that no self-respecting gamer would be without.

Is this guy trying to give an opinion, or is he advertising for Microsoft?

[*kryogenix*]

bump

[PurchasedRebelli...]

My boyfriend got it for Christmas and we played last night. I suck at it. I'm having a hard time with the right analog, controlling where the guy's looking. And it gives me a headache.

And I hate how you can't save unless you're playing single mode.

[DaTru KataLYST]

i thot it was a fun game kryo. And it topped my list among the games i played this year.

[*kryogenix*]

i thot it was a fun game kryo. And it topped my list among the games i played this year.

you really must have missed out then.

[DaTru KataLYST]

w/ school


yep. yep i did.

jw wut other games were there?

[*kryogenix*]

w/ school
yep. yep i did.

jw wut other games were there?

Well, Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater, Ninja Gaiden, Halflife 2, Viewtiful Joe, Metroid Prime 2 Echoes and Paper Mario Thousand Year Door.

Those were really good games.

[DaTru KataLYST]

got MGS3, HL2, and Ninja Gaidan


Never got around to enjoying them much tho.

[KissMe2408]

I just finished playing it with some of my guy friends...it's pretty good, but among all the guys I suck at it.

[Teesa]

gosh some of my friends are completely obesessed..it is ridiculous!

[moomoognu]

I love it when people try to make valid points about why Halo is "the best game ever!!!!!" when what they're saying really makes no point.

Kryogenix, you're probably one of the few people I actually respect on this forum and the reason I come back here time in and time out. It's nice to hear from someone intelligent for a change.

[*kryogenix*]

I love it when people try to make valid points about why Halo is "the best game ever!!!!!" when what they're saying really makes no point.

Kryogenix, you're probably one of the few people I actually respect on this forum and the reason I come back here time in and time out. It's nice to hear from someone intelligent for a change.

why thank you. you should stay more often, so that we could hear some of your intelligent comments too.

[IGB]

can't put anything over CS as my favorite fps, but heck Halo is a great game nontheless, some people like it more than others, maybe they just wanted to share what they enjoy in a game. If you dont, you can choose not to post in this thread.

[karrar]

Anyways yal pickin up the new maps?

[ThunderEvermore]

I love it when people try to make valid points about why Halo is "the best game ever!!!!!" when what they're saying really makes no point.

Kryogenix, you're probably one of the few people I actually respect on this forum and the reason I come back here time in and time out. It's nice to hear from someone intelligent for a change.

I know what you mean, he's tthe only one who backs me up about Nintendo being AWESOME!


Anyway, new maps, sure. I dont know if Ill buy the 20$ disk though.

[Eryi]

What's so good about Halo 2? I hear it everywhere.

[Silverchief]

Ok Thunderevermore, we got some issues to cover.
First of all, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark we're good and all, but they're kinda out dated. How many kids do you hear still talkin about havin theyre buds over to play a good ol game of Goldeneye? Haven't heard it in years.
You also quoted a while ago that Perfect Dark enhanced what Goldeneye had done. Has Halo not enhanced wat Perfect Dark left behind?
Now lets get to Halo.
The game is balanced, dont kid yourself. You say a shotgun is just as good as a rocket launcher? Have you even played the game??? Surely, you would know then, that a shotgun is only good for around the corner attacks, and does nothing long range. A rocket launcher is greater medium range, but will get ya killed in short range. They balance out dude.
The vehicles also serve a good purpose. They ghost is a nice 1 seater, but the warthog is fun with a party of 3. The banshee adds some more fun, and the tanks are lots off fun if u can find a friend who can master one. The vehicles also add madness to the multiplayer catpure the flag matches.
If you do not think halo 2 is balanced enough, still, then check out the new updates that were just released on Xbox Live.
You also said that Halo did NOT revolutionize gaming. I beg to differ to some extent. What Halo did do was that it brought the greatness of online FPS to gamers across the world, which had only been avaliable previously on PCs. Sure others tryied to mimic, like Unreal and Ghost Recon, but none delivered the same thrills (my opinion). Unreal was too fast, and Ghost Recon was too slow/stealthy. Not my cups of tea. Halo mixes fast action, with strategic warfare. (gates, teleporters, etc.) Not to mention plenty of game types and modes.
Now how can u sit here and tell us all you found Halo 1 and 2's stories boring? They were compeling and had major twists and plot points. Was it not a fun shock to face the flood for the first time? To discover Halo was actually a storage to hold the flood, not a weapon, or holy artifact? Was it not a feeling of dominance when you first swong the energy sword in Halo 2? Sure the story in halo 2 was a little disappointing, but it acts just like a great second book, or movie, in a series. Halo 3 will be wat sells Xbox 2.
As for the Microsoft loosing money issue, who gives a shit! As a consumer, it doesn't matter! As long as Microsoft never scraps the xbox, who cares if they loose money!
To sum everything up, Halo 2 is the best, current FPS to date(on consoles anyway). Who else will challenge? Killzone = What a joke! It was just made to "defeat" halo, but failed. Geist = looks to be good, but with no online, it can't even compete in the same pool as Halo. You may argue, but when it comes down to it, the multiplayer is what gives a game replay value and splitscreen is kinda gettin old.
To all the Halo representatives in this blog room, yall are pathetic! Get your facts straight! You let, wat appears to be, a Nintedo Fanboy overrun yall, and contol the board. Pathetic. I see enough off em on other gaming websites.
If you think your a big enough hotshot, thunderevermore, then why don't you go to a real gaming website, like 1up.com, and try to defend your point in a Halo 2 club wit at least 100 members. If you think your not a Nintendo fanboy, then take that retarded DS logo off the bottom of ur posts. If you want to look cool, and play the most bad-ass systme in the car or whenever, you get a PSP. But lets argue over that another day.
Last but not least, learn how to show your sources right. Google is not a source. It's a search engine. This makes you sound like a 5th grader. For someone who likes to pick on others for minor mistkes ("It's not FPS Shooter, its FPS. Thats like double quote=ing." or watever) you seem to make several mistakes of you own.
A true source would be like: I retrieved my info from gamespot.com, under the article, "PSP sells 600,000 units in first week".
By the way, it's an "S" controller, not a "Y" controller. Get your facts right before you diss somethin. And wats wrong with fixin somethin thats broke like the bulky original controller?

[Kenado]

about 99% of my friends (that are guys) are addicted to Halo and I just hate it I only have one friend thats not addicted to it (thats a guy)! I was looking through a magazine and it said would you choose halo or your girlfriend?

[*kryogenix*]

I hope you don't mind if I answer some of these for him.

Ok Thunderevermore, we got some issues to cover.
First of all, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark we're good and all, but they're kinda out dated.  How many kids do you hear still talkin about havin theyre buds over to play a good ol game of Goldeneye? Haven't heard it in years.

I haven't heard it either (because most people that still like the 007 franchise are playing the news games on the new consoles), but Goldeneye/Perfect Dark has left lasting memories in all of my friends and I. Whenever we play an FPS, at least once, the discussion goes back to "remember when we played goldeneye/perfect dark and did...?"

You also quoted a while ago that Perfect Dark enhanced what Goldeneye had done. Has Halo not enhanced wat Perfect Dark left behind?

It would be better to say Halo has enhanced what Marathon left behind. Unfortunately, I only know of three other people in real life (as in not counting people that I know over the internet) that have heard of Marathon (which, if you do not know, is Bungie's precursor to Halo). The fact that such a fun game has gone unnoticed (a fun game that is made by the same people as Halo) shows that Halo is receiving way too much hype.

Now lets get to Halo.
The game is balanced, dont kid yourself. You say a shotgun is just as good as a rocket launcher? Have you even played the game??? Surely, you would know then, that a shotgun is only good for around the corner attacks, and does nothing long range. A rocket launcher is greater medium range, but will get ya killed in short range. They balance out dude.
The vehicles also serve a good purpose. They ghost is a nice 1 seater, but the warthog is fun with a party of 3.  The banshee adds some more fun, and the tanks are lots off fun if u can find a friend who can master one.  The vehicles also add madness to the multiplayer catpure the flag matches.
If you do not think halo 2 is balanced enough, still, then check out the new updates that were just released on Xbox Live.

I'm not really sure if Thunder actually said the shotgun was as good as the rocket launcher (sorry if I got it wrong, I'm in a hurry, so I only read up to page 4 and searched for the word balance). The closest thing I found was that he said he'd rather use a shotgun than a pistol at close range.

The game does have some balance issues, at least in my experience. Alien Sniper Rifle > Human Sniper Rifle. Covenant Carbine > Assault Rifle. The SMG is better than any covenant equivalent (not sure what you could consider it's equivalent, I would guess needler). The vehicles are a whole different story. Each one fills a different niche, I understand that (human tank is direct fire, alien tank is more of an artillery weapon). but where is the human airplane? Where is the human one seater vehicle (I'd love for bungie to put a motorcycle in the game)?

You also said that Halo did NOT revolutionize gaming. I beg to differ to some extent. What Halo did do was that it brought the greatness of online FPS to gamers across the world, which had only been avaliable previously on PCs. Sure others tryied to mimic, like Unreal and Ghost Recon, but none delivered the same thrills (my opinion). Unreal was too fast, and Ghost Recon was too slow/stealthy. Not my cups of tea. Halo mixes fast action, with strategic warfare. (gates, teleporters, etc.) Not to mention plenty of game types and modes.

Halo did not revolutionize gaming. It brought back the FPS genre to the console, but in my opinion, the FPS genre works best on the PC. I don't know anyone who doesn't find the old WASD better than the XBOX controls. In fact, Halo was supposed to come out for the Mac (just like Marathon did), but Microsoft bought Bungie.

Now how can u sit here and tell us all you found Halo 1 and 2's stories boring? They were compeling and had major twists and plot points. Was it not a fun shock to face the flood for the first time? To discover Halo was actually a storage to hold the flood, not a weapon, or holy artifact?  Was it not a feeling of dominance when you first swong the energy sword in Halo 2? Sure the story in halo 2 was a little disappointing, but it acts just like a great second book, or movie, in a series.  Halo 3 will be wat sells Xbox 2.

I didn't find it that compelling. In fact, I tried playing singleplayer Halo, but decided to stop because it wasn't nearly as fun or compelling as multiplayer slayer. Halo 2 was really disappointing, and of course, it will be a set up for Halo 3, but do you think it's fair that Microsoft hyped the crap out of the game when they knew it wouldn't have an ending?

This little comic says it the best: http://img.penny-arcade.com/2005/20050318l.jpg

As for the Microsoft loosing money issue, who gives a shit! As a consumer, it doesn't matter! As long as Microsoft never scraps the xbox, who cares if they loose money!
To sum everything up, Halo 2 is the best, current FPS to date(on consoles anyway). Who else will challenge? Killzone = What a joke! It was just made to "defeat" halo, but failed.  Geist = looks to be good, but with no online, it can't even compete in the same pool as Halo. You may argue, but when it comes down to it, the multiplayer is what gives a game replay value and splitscreen is kinda gettin old.

I haven't found a current console FPS that is better than Halo 2. However, I haven't found a console FPS that is better than what comes out for the PC. Battlefield Vietnam (and the mod PoE) is in my opinion, better than Halo 2 (even though I feel bad about buying games from EA, but that's a different story). In fact, I had already been playing BFV for quite some time before Halo 2, and once I got to Halo 2 multiplayer, my reaction was pretty ho-hum. The only people I know that think Halo 2 multiplayer is a "shockingly OMG new experience" are the people who have never played games like Tribes, BF and Marathon.

To all the Halo representatives in this blog room, yall are pathetic! Get your facts straight! You let, wat appears to be, a Nintedo Fanboy overrun yall, and contol the board. Pathetic. I see enough off em on other gaming websites.
If you think your a big enough hotshot, thunderevermore, then why don't you go to a real gaming website, like 1up.com, and try to defend your point in a Halo 2 club wit at least 100 members.  If you think your not a Nintendo fanboy, then take that retarded DS logo off the bottom of ur posts. If you want to look cool, and play the most bad-ass systme in the car or whenever, you get a PSP. But lets argue over that another day.

You speak as if Nintendo fanboys are an inferior race of human beings. If someone is loyal to a certain company, because that company has been producing fine products for over 100 years (though in this case, it's probably only the last 20-30 years unless you are a hana fuda connosieur), why hold that against them? Spinning this around, if someone believes a company is wrongfully trying to monopolize a free market, why hold that against them?

And if nintendo fanboys are bad in your eyes, aren't those who irrationally hate nintendo (you know who I'm talking about, those "OMG nintendo is f0r t3h kidx0rs!11one people) just as bad, if not worse.

And yes, we'll talk about the handhelds another day. Provided you come back, considering this is your only post.

[soulless727]

its a game....not your life......

[kill me please]

its pretty good. if i called it anything less than that almost all my guy friends would kill me lol. its freakin crazy, but indeed i do like to watch them play and sometimes play myself.

[Silverchief]

ok, so the weapons. Overall, the weapons are off balanced a little, but this is intended. See, if the battle rifle and carbine were the exact same, but with a different coat, then it would be boring. The carbine has less rounds, but gives a better punch overall. The battle rifle has more ammo, and gives better damge wit head shots (try using a plasma pistol to lower their shield, then unlesh a round of battle rifle ammo to the head, for an instant kill). This also applies to weapons like the SMG and plasma rifle. The SMG has more ammo, and sprays bullets fater, but the plasma rifle slows down the enemy, and if cought from behind, will freeze them up. I could go on, but don't feel the need to.Here's that quote from Thunder by the way:

3) Yeah, because its real easy to see how having a Rocket Launcher is just as good as having a Shotgun. Ok.

For the vehicles, yea it's too bad the airplane went missing. I was expecting one too after seeing the E3 demo. O well. As for the ATV, you should have checked the bonus disc for info on it. Originally, it was planned, but after many problems with its physics and meaningless purpose (no weapons, just gets you from point A to B), it was removed. A future download seems unlikely.
I also never said that Halo 2 was better than any other PC shooters, like Half-Life 2 or Battlefield.All i was sayin was that Halo revolutionized the gaming industry, in my eyes, by bringing a great FPS from the PCs to a console and giving it online play. Heres wat i said:

To sum everything up, Halo 2 is the best, current FPS to date(on consoles anyway).

P.S. Yea I've heard about marathon, and seen pics of it, but never got a chance to play it. It looks like good ol fun. And what I said about Nintendo fanboys, my bad. I just come from other websites where they are usually bitches, who can't expand their view points to see that Nintendo is loosing ground to today's rivals. They still think it's the glory day in the early 90's, where Nintendo had no competition. It's a shame, really. I guess i just out grew Mario and Donkey Kong, and wanted some Grand Theft Auto, SOCOM, Halo, and Unreal.

[drugmasterj]

Halo 2 is awesom... play LIVE just tops it off...

[aznmonkeypunk]

in halo 2, if u ever played it before (most likely u did), what do u think were some of the improvements, and what do u think got downgraded from halo, besides the pistol. i think the improvements were the convenant, they look hella cooler than in halo, but a downgrade in halo 2 is that the gernades dont go as far as the first halo. tell me what u think.

[heyyfrankie]

TOPIC MOVED TO INTERESTS > TECHNOLOGY

[Justingamemaster]

Hmm...I'd have to say the most best upgrade from Halo one was the ability to dual wield weapons. That made the game more strategic, mainly in multiplayer, where you could have one plasma pistol charged up to take out opponents shields, and another regular human pistol to get a headshot and kill them, which took all less than 1 second overall.

Also, I like the multiplayer upgrade, the ability to use so many vehicles, and the new rocket launcher lock on thing.

The most major downgrade would have to be the way the shotgun looks. It looks like a freaking toy gun! haha!

[IGB]

they need to make possible dual-swords. gg

[pandamonium]

lol im so stupid i just found out they are coming out with another 5 new maps in june lol on the cd that they are gunna sell in retail stores. im so excited. the new playlists and maps will make the game seem more interesting.

[ThunderEvermore]

I haven't found a current console FPS that is better than Halo 2.

::Cough:: Time Splitters ::Cough::

Here's that quote from Thunder by the way:

3) Yeah, because its real easy to see how having a Rocket Launcher is just as good as having a Shotgun. Ok.

That was intended as sarcasm.

Although, I could easily take out a rocket man with an SMG. Simple.

And based upon your statements so far, I can see that you play kind of, well, as myself and the people I play with would say, newbishly.

Aaaaanyway, thank you to Kryo for the back up while i was on hiatus.

And I'll admit, Nintendo is losing ground now, thanks to some mistakes and lucky shots in the nineties, but guess what, there's a Revolution coming, and trust me, its gonna be big.

I'll also admit I get alot of hours in on Halo 2 on LIVE. Mostly because all I have right now is an Xbox (I yearn for my SNES and a copy of FFIII), And that the other LIVE games dont have as many players, and not as many of my friends play them.

But if I did suggest another LIVE game, it would be Phantom Dust, but I suppose thats for another post.

Why don't I like Halo? Alot of it is because the overhype. When someone tells me something is the best, is amazing, and I see it and its sub par, I tend to hate it due to that overhyped expectation. Halo, Halo 2, are not all that they're cracked up to be. Sure, theyre fun to play, and I DID get excited at the new maps, and I WAS cursing myself when I could hear the Flood in Halo 2, but I was not awe inspired.

When I played Future Perfect for the first time, now THAT inspired awe in me.

But thats for another post.

[*kryogenix*]

they need to make possible dual-swords. gg

what's the point, sword is pretty much 1 hit kill. sword + gun would be too cheap.

merging with other thread.

[inlonelinessidie]

lol im so stupid i just found out they are coming out with another 5 new maps in june lol on the cd that they are gunna sell in retail stores. im so excited. the new playlists and maps will make the game seem more interesting.

There are some new maps you can download for free now.

[karrar]

eh all 4 maps suck , and containment is to damn big .

[Silverchief]

You think future perfect is the best FPS on consloes? Wow.
Not many think like you. I have zero friends who own it, and those who have played it thought it was ok. Besides my friends, the reviews for future perfect were good, but not great. (8's or so)
Not once did i see future perfect with a high score than halo on any trustworthy website or magazine. It just looks to me like a nice rental during the summer.
But hey, we're all titled to our own opinions.
It's a shame you hate halo b/c it was overhyped. Yes, it was overhyped. Some said little was new but graphics, levels, and weapons. What the hell do you expect out of a sequal??? But it still a rock solid game. There's no reason to hate.
Thunder, you said you can easily take out a rocket launcher with one SMG. I'm just curious to know your rank, before they reset them. Cause either your freakin amazing at halo, or else you played with newbies on rank one.

Just b/c this is my 3rd post on this shitty game talkin room, doesn't mean im a true newb, dude. I know my shit about games. I know what games and consoles are tha shit. I advise my friends on their game purchases. I read my OXM and EGM fully the day I get them. I also download the most important reviews from gamespot.com. I update on 1up.com every chance i can in all forms of game clubs. You should really find a better website to argue about games. This is a shitty one. Thats why im never here to post.

Unitl next time
peace

[ThunderEvermore]

You think future perfect is the best FPS on consloes? Wow.
Not many think like you. I have zero friends who own it, and those who have played it thought it was ok. Besides my friends, the reviews for future perfect were good, but not great. (8's or so)
Not once did i see future perfect with a high score than halo on any trustworthy website or magazine. It just looks to me like a nice rental during the summer.
But hey, we're all titled to our own opinions.
It's a shame you hate halo b/c it was overhyped. Yes, it was overhyped. Some said little was new but graphics, levels, and weapons. What the hell do you expect out of a sequal???  But it still a rock solid game. There's no reason to hate.
Thunder, you said you can easily take out a rocket launcher with one SMG. I'm just curious to know your rank, before they reset them.  Cause either your freakin amazing at halo, or else you played with newbies on rank one.

Just b/c this is my 3rd post on this shitty game talkin room, doesn't mean im a true newb, dude. I know my shit about games. I know what games and consoles are tha shit. I advise my friends on their game purchases. I read my OXM and EGM fully the day I get them. I also download the most important reviews from gamespot.com.  I update on 1up.com every chance i can in all forms of game clubs.  You should really find a better website to argue about games. This is a shitty one. Thats why im never here to post. 

Unitl next time
peace

Few people can appretiate FPSes after Halo2. Yes, Halo2 had very little to offer, other than live, that the first couldnt. What do I expect from a sequel? Innovation! The only genre where the same 'ol same 'ol works is platformers, and even they revolutionize once in a while. People were Jaded by a long wait and their precious Halo 1, and when Halo 2 came out lacking an ending, and any real update other than dual wielding, they were still in love with it. What few people realize is that it isnt all that great. Lack of weapons, lack of character selection, lack of BOTS, lack of any form of a story except some gundam ripoff used over and over, the games dont really provide anything for me except the easiest to use and most thought out Xbox live system, and even then, the experience online is attrocious. 3 year olds talking crap on me, the lag monster improving everyone elses scores but I, and now with the auto update, everyone is a grenade whore. Quite honestly, the game reeks of cheap shots and quick talkers. It sucks. Id sooner play Mechassault or Crimson Skies.

What rank was I? 13. No Im not ridiculously good, but apparently Im better than you.

Time Splitters was a GOOD game. Id list the reasons but I have to go to work.

I WILL RETURN!

[Silverchief]

True, the story to halo 2 was dissapointing. It's a great cliffhanger tho. I too wish it was complete, but this just makes me want the Xbox 2(althought i wont get one).
To revolutionize a perfect game is such a big and often stupid risk, you shouldnt have expect some holy game from God himself.
If something works, then don't break it! Just upgrade it! And thats what was just done.
Dual weilding is great, the new life system is better for a fast paced game, the addition of the sword, smg, brute shot, carbon rifle, battle rifle, and covenent sniper rifle, were all great new additions to the Halo universe of weapontry. The sword can be cheap, yet it's still fun to play with.
Character selection isnt really a big issue, considering the spartan/arbitor is completely customizable. And if you don't like the look of the chief, then switch to an elite. My only negative comment about this, is that it would be nice to download new logos and emblems, but maps are way more important.
Now for BOTS. Do you really need em? Yea theyre nice, but not really worth bungie's time and effort to insert. To add all these extras to Halo 2, Bungie would have needed even more time, and Bungie even mentions that they had to cut some projects they had for the game to get the release date. If you want to play a good game with BOTS, then buy Unreal.
About the "3 year olds" you play against. If they are indeed that young (or close to that), then with a 13 rank, you shouldnt be playin them. The system was built to restict that. Also, if you dont want to play little kids, then dont play mechassault or crimson skies. These games have just as many little kids, if not more, than any other game out there. No game will ever be able to keep all children off its servers.
And yea, u had a higher rank than i did. I believe this is partially to the fact that I never really get on Live. My family has one DSL jack in my house, and anyone who wants the computer usually gets first dibs. My parents arent that big on videogames, also.
I'll admit, I'm just average, but the game still captivates me. It's the best of its class (console, FPS). Others do a nice job, but none can create as good controls, nor hardcore fans. (I mean look at all the games that copy Halo basic control layout. Before Halo, games were controled like Unreal and Ghost Recon)
P.S. After I thought about Future Perfect, I really want to try it out. I liked the previous one, but just never felt compelled enough to buy FP. I'm really wantin to rent it this summer wit the Blockbuster Gamerpass. I'd also like to try Breakdown.