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Colonel Bill
post Apr 25 2005, 01:46 PM
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As I have told you before, you are an immortal matter which is possessing the consciousness.

Winner Lose All

You can't understand that if it wasn't bad enough to you.

All are immortal, all live life after life. Everyone changes. One life one is good, few lives later one is doing bad things.

Thoughts are endless, some become evil, some do bad things for a good cause. The things that can change one are endless.

If you do good to someone, few lives later he may do bad to you.

I want do nothing good to anyone. You are not really you, you know. When a time to revenge will come, I'll know, I didn't help you.

Yet, how a life may be lived if you see nothing special in anyone, if all for you are what they'll become one day? And if someone is good now, isn't it what the one is too, isn't it right to see all simply as they are: changing? Sad life is ahead, what you see is what will be gone.
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 01:47 PM
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And what exactly do you want us to say?
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:01 PM
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:02 PM
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the plural form for "life" ====> lives

interesting topic. _smile.gif
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(strwbrrykiwi23 @ Apr 25 2005, 10:02 PM)
the plural form for "life" ====> lives

interesting topic. _smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:13 PM
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^I still don't understand what you want us to say in reply...
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:14 PM
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um.
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but how do you know that we have multiple lives?
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(purpleyes @ Apr 25 2005, 9:52 PM)
when did you tell us?  mellow.gif
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I opened a topic yesterday but it was closed. The explanation was a bit confusing, I've fixed it a little, have added a few words here and there.

Here how it goes now.

The Proof That You Exist.

Matter is anything what is capable to influence or is influenced by a matter. If anything is acting like this - it is a matter.

No-matter may be either a hidden, not disclosed matter or the emptiness.

As far as I know, you think that you are a flow of consciousness. I will show you, that you are a special matter which is possessing the consciousness. You will have to decide, is the consciousness a flowing awareness, or are you a matter that is aware.

The proof.

When you try to move, the brain must read and interpret the desire in order that correct nerve impulses would be send to the muscles to produce the desired motion. Brain is a matter and as a matter, it only interacts with some forms of matter. So, it must be something, which state is a reflection of the desire. This something is you, you are a matter, which state is interpreted by the brain.

You are a matter, which at once sees the consciousness and the image of itself as the viewer. That's how the matter thinks it is "who" and is not "what".

There is a chain of matters between us and our brain. There is a matter where the thoughts are reflected and are kept.

Of course, you may think, you are a no-matter, some kind of emptiness. What kind of emptiness are you, this or that? Real empty emptiness or simply empty space? Which kind of emptiness actually influence the brain?

To give you more ideas, space is not just something empty, even space, perhaps, is a matter. It is because of space, that everything doesn't interact with everything and the powers of fields are lost somewhere as they spread.

The perception of the matter as of something touchable and material shall be reviewed and modified. Physical matter is in fact something very close to us, to some very special matter possessing the consciousness.

Why am I writing this to you? Humans shall not worry they die when their body dies, well, most probably not. You are an immortal matter.

You should not hate each other or yourselves too much. In the very end, it is the differences in the matter we are what imposes the differences in us as who we are.

Besides the potential of variety in the matter, there is a born somewhere contents of the consciousness. You will not do certain things only if you perceive all required for refusal in a certain way. However, the perception is not entirely determined. You will not say seriously black about white, you will not say seriously that you don't have a consciousness. When you know about more then one thing at once, you compare, that is a gift of the consciousness. Still, beyond the simple things like colors, while you are present in multiple consciousness' complexes, you can find as right multiple opposite things.


If that is easier to understand now, I'll reopen the closed topic if moderators allow this.
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Apr 25 2005, 9:47 PM)
And what exactly do you want us to say?
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Just what do you think. I collect opinions.
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 05:41 PM
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post Apr 25 2005, 05:44 PM
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Umm...? I can't wait till you look back on this topic 4 months from now. Anyway, um, I'm pretty sure I don't have multiple lives.

What exactly else can I say?? blink.gif
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 05:46 PM
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HAHAHHAHAHA THIS IS FUNNY.....this is a joke right????
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 05:50 PM
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And sir, what exactly do you want us to say from this?
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Bill @ Apr 25 2005, 1:18 PM)
I opened a topic yesterday but it was closed. The explanation was a bit confusing, I've fixed it a little, have added a few words here and there.

If that is easier to understand now, I'll reopen the closed topic if moderators allow this.
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Helpful hint- You can't reopen your own topic if it is closed. rolleyes.gif

Also, did you like plagiarize this, or just randomly come up with it? Just out of curiousity.
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 06:06 PM
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this is. .random
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 06:11 PM
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that heaven is overrated
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post Apr 25 2005, 06:22 PM
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Um, i dont understand....
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 06:50 PM
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Its confusing..... mellow.gif
 
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post Apr 25 2005, 06:57 PM
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Let me try to understand. Are we discussing karma and how the belief in karma should affect our morality?

In order to collect intelligent opinions, dear Colonel Bill, one must instill some assurance of understanding in one's audience.

I, for once, am at a loss. A lack of understanding, you could say. Should this topic attract any more "i'm confused" comments, it shall be closed.
 
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post Apr 26 2005, 11:55 PM
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say maydayism.
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This seems like preaching your belief...
but sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say.
You have weird English... your grammar is correct but it sounds weird. blink.gif
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 02:26 AM
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post Apr 27 2005, 05:00 AM
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yeah, you sound like you're just telling us your opinions on...what? whatever it is, i don't get it. are you an existentialist?
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:00 PM
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whats the purpose of this?
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:11 PM
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:11 PM
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okay i read it again so I'm editing my post. What does this have to do with anything. Why are you saying you. I dont think I'm emptiness or whatever. Who is you? who the hell is this directed to? Is this some sort of philosophy you are trying to spread? I mean, I know I'm real cuz I touch me. This isn't the Matrix. Even tho it would be cool if it was.

Can I repeat, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!

I don't beleive in moving from one life to the next. I beleive that I have one shot. One shot. You have no proof of anyhting you say. Its all words. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! Sorry, that just keeps coming to mind. I'm trying to grasp the direction you are trying to take things, but you never once actually formed an opinion. You never said I think, or I beleive. Yuo said it like it was factual. Have you been to your previous lives? Why does the population keep going up if all we are is a continuance of what was? WHAT THE HELL...yeah. I mean. Why is this important? Why the hell am I even wasting time typing this. Oh how I wish I had something better to do. I'm so confused right now. Can u like, make a point please?
 
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Like karamelle mentioned, I don't believe I have more than one life. I mean, do you even have proof that there's a life after this one??
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 04:18 PM
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post Apr 27 2005, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(karamelle @ Apr 27 2005, 11:11 PM)
okay i read it again so I'm editing my post.  What does this have to do with anything.  Why are you saying you.  I dont think I'm emptiness or whatever.  Who is you?  who the hell is this directed to?  Is this some sort of philosophy you are trying to spread?  I mean, I know I'm real cuz I touch me.  This isn't the Matrix.  Even tho it would be cool if it was.

Can I repeat, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!

I don't beleive in moving from one life to the next.  I beleive that I have one shot. One shot.  You have no proof of anyhting you say.  Its all words.  WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!  Sorry, that just keeps coming to mind.  I'm trying to grasp the direction you are trying to take things, but you never once actually formed an opinion.  You never said I think, or I beleive.  Yuo said it like it was factual.  Have you been to your previous lives?  Why does the population keep going up if all we are is a continuance of what was?  WHAT THE HELL...yeah.  I mean.  Why is this important?  Why the hell am I even wasting time typing this.  Oh how I wish I had something better to do.  I'm so confused right now.  Can u like, make a point please?
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So, you don't think you are an emptiness. I assume that you think you are something else besides your body. Do you believe this something else will be gone? If so, why?
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Bill @ Apr 27 2005, 5:46 PM)
So, you don't think you are an emptiness. I assume that you think you are something else besides your body. Do you believe this something else will be gone? If so, why?
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okay. let me repeat, again. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!

Think my body is a form of mass in nature. I think that when I die my body goes into the earth, and tis done for. however I think i have a soul that if I stop cursing and lying to people so much, will go to heaven and spend the rest of eternity worshiping my god. at least thats what I hope. I don't want to wander across this miserable little planet forever. it sucks down here. and besides, I know I'm not an emptiness, cuz I cut myself open and there will be things inside. So I'm filled with something right? again, for my own pleasure this time, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?! This body is just a temporary vessel. Thats what I belvie. And could you please, for once, actually explain the purpose of this topic? Like really. You make no sense, you dont ask for opinions, you only state facts, and you make very little sense.
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 09:01 PM
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You sound like a very pessimistic Buddhist, my friend.

You say that a good deed done unto another might become a bad deed done unto oneself(real word?), but there is also the possibility that one's good deed shall be returned back. Also, the ideas of good and evil are subjective. What you hold to be good may be held to be bad in another's point of view.

To be blunt, you sound like Yoda with a grammar problem.

You also state that thoughts are endless, and that some are become good and some become evil. Once again the ideas of good and evil are subjective. But all humans have thoughts that are good or bad. Most humans simply do not have the discipline to control thoughts like that. Also, our thoughts have been "poisoned" by the media and society in general. Those whose thoughts are truly pure are the children. The young children, the ones in an infantile state think only pure thoughts: hungry, sleepy. poopy.

Your ideas intrigue me..
 
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post Apr 27 2005, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(DaToNeViEtBoI916 @ Apr 27 2005, 9:01 PM)
You sound like a very pessimistic Buddhist, my friend.

You say that a good deed done unto another might become a bad deed done unto oneself(real word?), but there is also the possibility that one's good deed shall be returned back.  Also, the ideas of good and evil are subjective.  What you hold to be good may be held to be bad in another's point of view. 

To be blunt, you sound like Yoda with a grammar problem.

You also state that thoughts are endless, and that some are become good and some become evil.  Once again the ideas of good and evil are subjective.  But all humans have thoughts that are good or bad.  Most humans simply do not have the discipline to control thoughts like that.  Also, our thoughts have been "poisoned" by the media and society in general.  Those whose thoughts are truly pure are the children.  The young children, the ones in an infantile state think only pure thoughts: hungry, sleepy. poopy.

Your ideas intrigue me..
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Click the site he has in his signature. Its like his blog. everything he posted here he has on that blog. I'm lame, I actually looked. this guy is weird. I think he thinks he is an alien.
 
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colonel, i'm sorry to tell you but i think you need psychiatric (sp?) help. you should have someone check you into a mental institution right away...
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(karamelle @ Apr 28 2005, 4:38 AM)
okay. let me repeat, again. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!

Think my body is a form of mass in nature.  I think that when I die my body goes into the earth, and tis done for. however I think i have a soul that if I stop cursing and lying to people so much, will go to heaven and spend the rest of eternity worshiping my god. at least thats what I hope.  I don't want to wander across this miserable little planet forever. it sucks down here.  and besides, I know I'm not an emptiness, cuz I cut myself open and there will be things inside.  So I'm filled with something right? again, for my own pleasure this time, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!  This body is just a temporary vessel.  Thats what I belvie.  And could you please, for once, actually explain the purpose of this topic?  Like really.  You make no sense, you dont ask for opinions, you only state facts, and you make very little sense.
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>however I think i have a soul that if I stop cursing and lying to people so much, will go to heaven and spend the rest of eternity worshiping my god.


Are heaven such a thing that you have nothing else to do there? Didn't god solve this problem:

Once you don't have to work, to spend few hours to get to the work, to spend 8 hours for the sleep, what is left to do?


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colonel, i'm sorry to tell you but i think you need psychiatric (sp?) help. you should have someone check you into a mental institution right away...


I've written in the blog that one is a special matter which is possessing the consciousness. What do you think about the prove of it? (It's in the "We Can Build You")

Now, you think that you don't exist. You think that there is a non material soul. It's you who needs a psychiatric.
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 07:59 AM
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Dude, you have way too much time to think..

Stop thinking so much, you might get a brain cramp..
 
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QUOTE(Colonel Bill @ Apr 28 2005, 7:19 AM)
>however I think i have a soul that if I stop cursing and lying to people so much, will go to heaven and spend the rest of eternity worshiping my god.
Are heaven such a thing that you have nothing else to do there? Didn't god solve this problem:

Once you don't have to work, to spend few hours to get to the work, to spend 8 hours for the sleep, what is left to do?
I've written in the blog that one is a special matter which is possessing the consciousness. What do you think about the prove of it? (It's in the "We Can Build You")

Now, you think that you don't exist. You think that there is a non material soul. It's you who needs a psychiatric.
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umm. Again. I'm sort of getting tired of saying this, but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

MAYBE if you spoke in conherent sentances I could follow you, but you have terrible use of grammar. Are heaven? You mean is heaven? and umm..I don't work. I spend all my time on the internet or singing, or doing art. And that point you made didnt really even make sense. Once you don't have to work...to pend a few hours to get to he work. What work? What are you talking about? You really do need help. U seem to think by using words to prove whatever you say, that you are actually proving something. show me something concrete. Give me physical proof that what I beleive is wrong, and what you beleive is right.

YOU CAN'T.

Thats why it is a beleif. You have no more proof of this wack ass expreme karma life is never ending whatever bullsh*t than I have proof that my god is waiting for me in heaven with open arms. Its what you believe. So stop saying you have proven something, because you have done nothing but said words. I'm not trying to prove to you that I'm right, I'm just trying to make you see how much of a moron you are for someing and trying to prove something you cannot. Follow the Tao haha. Show me proof of your past lives. show me proof of what you have seen and supposedly know. She me contcrete evidence that you are just a continuation of conciousness. I mean, that doesnt make any sense. Explain death to me. If you are not an intagible conciousness, how can you travel from life to life? That doesnt work hun. I belive I have a soul that travels through this life, and into an after life in Heaven. Thats what I believe, and hold to be true. I don't have to prove it to anyone, I don't have to make other people believe it, because in the end I am confident in what will happen to me. I don't have to make up so called "prove" as you like to call it, and run around on online forums talking about nonsense. you tell me how my theory of having a soul that leaves the earth in to Heaven, is any different than having a conciousness (could be called a soul) that travels from one vessel to the next in a never ending flow of life after life? How is your conciousness any more concret than my soul thory? huh? you tell me this. ANd how about you give real answers. I read you blog. You just cut and poste everything. If it not something you cut and paste, then you just reiterate a sentace, and direct us all to read something that you cut and paste. Give me something real, no preprogrammed responses. Actually, no, how about you just go away right now. I mean, since you move from one life to the other, if you end this life, it obviously wouldn't matter now would it? you could always do better next time around.
 
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QUOTE(Colonel Bill @ Apr 28 2005, 7:19 AM)
Now, you think that you don't exist. You think that there is a non material soul. It's you who needs a psychiatric.
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excuse me? You're not a psychic ... you don't know what I think. It's not humanly possible to think that you don't exist. And I have NO idea what you're talking about with this "non material soul" nonsense. I think you have the wrong site....this is CREATE BLOG...not CREATE PSYCHOPATHS!
 
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QUOTE(karamelle @ Apr 28 2005, 4:06 PM)
umm. Again. I'm sort of getting tired of saying this, but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

MAYBE if you spoke in conherent sentances I could follow you, but you have terrible use of grammar. Are heaven?  You mean is heaven?  and umm..I don't work.  I spend all my time on the internet or singing, or doing art.  And that point you made didnt really even make sense.  Once you don't have to work...to pend a few hours to get to he work.  What work?  What are you talking about?  You really do need help.  U seem to think by using words to prove whatever you say, that you are actually proving something. show me something concrete.  Give me physical proof that what I beleive is wrong, and what you beleive is right.

YOU CAN'T.

Thats why it is a beleif.  You have no more proof of this wack ass expreme karma life is never ending whatever bullsh*t than I have proof that my god is waiting for me in heaven with open arms.  Its what you believe. So stop saying you have proven something, because you have done nothing but said words.  I'm not trying to prove to you that I'm right, I'm just trying to make you see how much of a moron you are for someing and trying to prove something you cannot.  Follow the Tao haha.  Show me proof of your past lives. show me proof of what you have seen and supposedly know.  She me contcrete evidence that you are just a continuation of conciousness.  I mean, that doesnt make any sense.  Explain death to me.  If you are not an intagible conciousness, how can you travel from life to life?  That doesnt work hun.  I belive I have a soul that travels through this life, and into an after life in Heaven.  Thats what I believe, and hold to be true.  I don't have to prove it to anyone, I don't have to make other people believe it, because in the end I am confident in what will happen to me.  I don't have to make up so called "prove" as you like to call it, and run around on online forums talking about nonsense.  you tell me how my theory of having a soul that leaves the earth in to Heaven, is any different than having a conciousness (could be called a soul) that travels from one vessel to the next in a never ending flow of life after life?  How is your conciousness any more concret than my soul thory? huh?  you tell me this.  ANd how about you give real answers.  I read you blog.  You just cut and poste everything.  If it not something you cut and paste, then you just reiterate a sentace, and direct us all to read something that you cut and paste.  Give me something real, no preprogrammed responses.  Actually, no, how about you just go away right now.  I mean, since you move from one life to the other, if you end this life, it obviously wouldn't matter now would it?  you could always do better next time around.
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Let's go sentence by sentence. Please answer yes or no.

1. Matter may only influence or be influenced by a matter.

2. Brain is a matter.

3. Brain must read from somewhere your desire to move your body as you want.

4. Brain may only read it from a matter.

5.

a. Do you think that you have a soul which is not a matter?

b. Will you agree that you by yourself are a special matter which is possessing the consciousness, knows things?

If you think that you have a soul and your soul is not material, please tell, how the material brain intercepts your desire to move your body as you want?

6. Who is mad?

a. I (you can answer yes, I am mad biggrin.gif )

b. You both with all the planet.
 
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QUOTE(Colonel Bill @ Apr 28 2005, 5:21 PM)
Let's go sentence by sentence. Please answer yes or no.

1. Matter may only influence or be influenced by a matter.

2. Brain is a matter.

3. Brain must read from somewhere your desire to move your body as you want.

4. Brain may only read it from a matter.

5.

a. Do you think that you have a soul which is not a matter?

b. Will you agree that you by yourself are a special matter which is possessing the consciousness, knows things?

If you think that you have a soul and your soul is not material, please tell, how the material brain intercepts your desire to move your body as you want?

6. Who is mad?

a. I (you can answer yes, I am mad  biggrin.gif )

b. You both with all the planet.
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Ahem.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?

U know, there is no such thing as being a matter. Either something is matter, or it isnt. There is no a matter. Tell me, if you think a soul is material, what does it look like? I'd like to see one. If I see someone die, will I see their soul jump out of their body? Explain this to me.
 
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are you by any chance a college professor of some kind? or are you trying to out-preach our new pope?
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 05:31 PM
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RAWR.
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QUOTE(mirage @ Apr 28 2005, 5:27 PM)
are you by any chance a college professor of some kind? or are you trying to out-preach our new pope?
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worse. hes a 30 some odd year old lame-o who beleives the plot of the movie matrix is really the existance we lead, as well as believing one of the characters off of x-files exists and wanting to share with her his theories on aliens. I read his blog. Afterwards I grasped my brain because I could feel my IQ dropping. And really, would a professor speak that poorly?
 
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post Apr 28 2005, 05:35 PM
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i've never wanted anything rationale.
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This topic really isn't going anywhere except for down.

Closing it.

Bill, I suggest posting in the debate forum.
 

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