xbox 360 Options

[*kryogenix*]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7991

some preview.

[Just_Dream]

Wow.. first the PSP and now an XBOX 360? Yea okay I know the XBOX 360 isn't a handheld, but still. Wow... Argh that means my boyfriend's going to start shaving money again and will start leeching off of my money.

It says that the place where the disc goes is unknown.. Hmm..

[Jus2s1mp13]

Another one.. Gesh what next..But i stick with my psp!

[pandamonium]

kryo, man you are awesome i only heard about rumors. but i heard a lot about the xbox 360. i still dont get how its gunna look like tho. is it gunna look like a pac man? but it sounds really cool. damn there are too many things coming out at once . first ds psp then 360 . i think the name suits xbox.

[Kenjii]

I think the Xbox 360 is going to be terrible. I heard it cannot be back compatible with the original Xbox games. PS3 is going to dominate the console gaming :-( .

[cocoalightning27]

Looks O.K.....I don't feel like getting any gaming consoles because I always know that they're gonna come out with newer and newer ones....

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

I think the Xbox 360 is going to be terrible. I heard it cannot be back compatible with the original Xbox games. PS3 is going to dominate the console gaming :-( .

yeah, the backwards compatibliltiy is why Sony is number one so far.

[*kryogenix*]

http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/art...umors_02170912/

rumors rumors rumors

[auroradude]

i will be getting it the first day it comes out. Drove 64 miles just to get the PS2 on the 2nd day of release, it was the only one in stock.

[*kryogenix*]

i will be getting it the first day it comes out. Drove 64 miles just to get the PS2 on the 2nd day of release, it was the only one in stock.

you're basing your buying decision on mere rumours?

[*mzkandi*]

Wow.. first the PSP and now an XBOX 360?

I know right....I dont think I will be able to keep up with all these new systems coming out

[Eryi]

I guess the companies are at war?

[Kenjii]

Those rumors seem like a fact. Nice design to it too.

[*kryogenix*]

The real deal.

What a ripoff. Does the controller look familiar (hint: i'm thinking of a word that starts with a 'd' and ends with a 'reamcast')?

[sadolakced acid]

depends on where the L and R buttons are...

and how the memory slot is set up...

i wonder what that color scheme reminds me of...

starts with an i and ends in a pod.

made by a fruit.

wow, they're pulling out all the stops on innovation this time...

[*kryogenix*]

don't forget the camera in the corner of the first pic.

where have I seen that before? maybe something that starts with an "e", and ends with an "yetoy"! (Ok, that one was really bad. You get the point, they copied Playstation's EyeToy.)

[sadolakced acid]

i think the only thing they didn't steal from someone else is the headset. unless the original xbox stole it...

hmm... i'm waiting for games to go back to the cartridge system. becuase DVDs just run out of room, games would be on hard drive platters (in a protective cartridge), and the console had read heads that read it. like a floppy disk. except, no write heads.


now that would be innovation.

[*kryogenix*]

Leaked Stats and specs:
http://news.gaminghorizon.com/media2/1115658600.925.html
http://news.gaminghorizon.com/media2/1115660580.926.html

enjoy kiddies.

[HongKongDong]

Yeah... one thing with those specs though... RUMORED

[*kryogenix*]

another controller pic.

[jaeman]

That seems interesting but my choice for home consoles is still the sony playstation.

[tofumonzter]

At the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) 2005 in Los Angeles, Microsoft today announced it will release a free software update to Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 that will enable customers to take advantage of the Media Center Extender technologies built into Xbox 360 ™ gaming systems to access and enjoy digital entertainment anywhere in the home. Every Xbox 360 will have Media Center Extender functionality built in and available out of the box. The Media Center Extender functionality, coupled with the software update for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, will provide customers with seamless access to digital music, video, photos, and standard and high-definition television and movies on Media Center Edition 2005-based PCs through any Xbox 360 game console in the house.

Press

wow. this is quite interesting. i think im going to start saving my money and get it. hope they will have more games for xbox

[*kryogenix*]

meh, microsoft is shooting itself in the foot with this one. they're essentially competing with themselves in the media pc market.

microsoft is taking console gaming in the wrong direction here. they're trying to capture console gaming and make it pc gaming.

merging with the 360 thread.

[sadolakced acid]

they've truley gone 360 with this one- i a circle and now back where the other people were already.

[*kryogenix*]

things aren't looking too great for xbox 360 already. even steve ballmer has called the pre release demos a disaster. in fact, microsoft was forced to bring it's own supporters to applaud for the xbox 360. they had to pay people to clap!

[wayne]

the only reason i would get one is because everyone knows there will be an amazing 1st person shooter on the xbox like Halo. im not going to buy right away though. im gonna wait until some good titles release for it. then consider buying.


im waiting for the ps3. i cant wait.

[*kryogenix*]

the only reason i would get one is because everyone knows there will be an amazing 1st person shooter on the xbox like Halo. im not going to buy right away though. im gonna wait until some good titles release for it. then consider buying.
im waiting for the ps3. i cant wait.

most xbox titles are recycled pc games. even halo started life out as a pc game.

that is why i see nothing special when watching xbox games.

[sadolakced acid]

hahaha...

this so totally rocks. they had to pay people to clap... wow. that's desperate.

at least apple isn't making a console...

[*kryogenix*]

hahaha... 

this so totally rocks.  they had to pay people to clap... wow.  that's desperate.

at least apple isn't making a console...

some say nintendo is the apple of the gaming industry. although not on top, it is innovative, profitable and has a cult following.

[karrar]

actuly kyro halo started as a mac game.......................anyways ima buy one caz its backwards compatible with xbox and i have an already good library of games on that.

[ikayto]

hahaha... 

this so totally rocks.  they had to pay people to clap... wow.  that's desperate.

at least apple isn't making a console...

I bet if Apple actually did make a console, there would probably be 5 games for it, and it would cost 2gzzzzzzzzz........

Xbox360, looks a little bulky. The new PS2 is half it's previous size, so why not show up sony, and make their console smaller; meh maybe something to come in the future.

I like the faceplates, that's a nice touch.

[*kryogenix*]

actuly kyro halo started as a mac game.......................anyways ima buy one caz its backwards compatible with xbox and i have an already good library of games on that.

well, marathon did start off as a mac game, but marathon 2 is out for pc, and that was the game created before halo.

by the way, not all games are compatible with the new xbox.

edit:

http://gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=8996

xbox titles may have to be recompiled in order to be played on the 360.

[ThunderEvermore]

If I got an xbox 360 it would be for 2 reasons, Perfect Dark Zero, and the amazing online interface they showed at E3.

Yes, the controllers are a rip from DC, but so were the originals. They were just fatter, less comfortable, and black (With a tint of green if you noticed).

Hired applauders? Sad.

I DID think it odd when the guy said that the 360 would be backwards compatible with the "top selling xbox titles", rather than EVERY ONE.

The supposed eyetoy rip is infact not one, its supposed to be used as a webcam of sorts for video chat via xbox live.

Stating that a color scheme is ripped from something is just pathetic. Thats like saying that the Black and Decker Wet/Dry Vacs they sell at Sears are ripping their color scheme off of my old high school, both of which are red and black. Colors dont mean a thing, especially not in terms of ripping people off. OH NO, THE CONSOLE IS WHITE!! Jeez.

[*kryogenix*]

http://news.com.com/2100-1043_3-5706658.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Microsoft used Apple iMacs to play the xbox 360 demos. The tech demos weren't even run on xbox 360 hardware!

[ThunderEvermore]

http://news.com.com/2100-1043_3-5706658.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Microsoft used Apple iMacs to play the xbox 360 demos. The tech demos weren't even run on xbox 360 hardware!

Note that the article was published before E3 this year, and that it may or may not be true for the E3 demos.

[*kryogenix*]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/27/news_6126611.html

xbox 360 will possibly be $300 by thanksgiving

[Klaus]

I heard about this thing ages go, kinda puts my custom xbox crystal to shame, its a ownage console with a 80gb hardrive but that things blows it out of the water. Frking updates.

[shortiiex]

i don't see anything

[waitwaitwait]

I heard they don't have any good games for it yet.

[AngryBaby]

^well they have madden 2006, NFS most wanted, dark sector, THUG American wasteland,ghost recon 3,nba 2k6, and some other games that sound good.

[*kryogenix*]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9312

Microsfot Claims that they won't be able to produce enough Xbox 360's to meet demand.

I SAY A LOAD OF BS.

Sony did the same exact thing with the PS2 to artificially inflate the price. Don't fall for this scam, there will be plenty of Xbox 360s to go around.

[sadolakced acid]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9312

Microsfot Claims that they won't be able to produce enough Xbox 360's to meet demand.

I SAY A LOAD OF BS.

Sony did the same exact thing with the PS2 to artificially inflate the price. Don't fall for this scam, there will be plenty of Xbox 360s to go around.

or, they purposely didn't make a higher capacity production line, seeing as how the ipod's production line outgrew the demand.

[esharp]

xbox 360 looks good, but im not gonna hurry and buy it right away, especially after the recalls the original xbox issued.

also, ive been hearing that the xbox 360 is backwards-compatible with the xbox. does anybody know for sure if that is true?

[waitwaitwait]

Wow.. first the PSP and now an XBOX 360? Yea okay I know the XBOX 360 isn't a handheld, but still. Wow... Argh that means my boyfriend's going to start shaving money again and will start leeching off of my money.

It says that the place where the disc goes is unknown.. Hmm..

Hey, think he'd date me?

[*kryogenix*]

xbox 360 looks good, but im not gonna hurry and buy it right away, especially after the recalls the original xbox issued.

also, ive been hearing that the xbox 360 is backwards-compatible with the xbox.  does anybody know for sure if that is true?

only select games will be compatible, and they will have to be recompiled. the xbox 360 is switching from x86 to PPC, so there will be some compatability issues.

[*mipadi*]

most xbox titles are recycled pc games. even halo started life out as a pc game.

that is why i see nothing special when watching xbox games.

Actually, Halo started off as a Mac game.

It's based on the old Marathon series, too--perhaps the best first-person shooter ever made (adjusted for its time period, of course).

[*mipadi*]

The computing capabilities of the Xbox 360, if true, are quite amazing. Three PowerPC processors, each handling two threads, for a total of six threads at once? Stunning. I'm impressed.

Not getting one, though. I don't console game anymore. Don't game much anymore, at all. But a 360 would almost be worth it for Perfect Dark alone. I loved PD for N64--still play it even now. I was disappointed when MS bought Rare and cancelled PD for the 'Cube. I'm glad to see they have restarted the project, because Perfect Dark is by far my favorite first-person shooter. It's one of the view that combine an interesting and engaging story with good gameplay.

[sadolakced acid]

Actually, Halo started off as a Mac game. 

It's based on the old Marathon series, too--perhaps the best first-person shooter ever made (adjusted for its time period, of course).

been said.

[*kryogenix*]

Xbox 360 will launch for $300, games will be $60.

So if you buy the console and one game, the price will be $360.

[Hell-Rell]

Looks like a DVD player

[ThunderEvermore]

According to CNN.com the price of the Xbox 360 will vary.

300$ will get you a console, one controller that attaches through a wire, and your basic a/v cable.

An extra 100$ will get you a console, wireless controller, headset, the 20gig hard drive, and for a limited time, a wireless remote for use with the console's various other multimedia functions. Theyre even going to give you preloaded songs, videos, and other things onto the hard drive.

[lilphoenix]

i heard that there's 2 types of the xbox 360 that'll be released:

one that comes fully-ready to play-out-of-the-box :)

and the other is like building your own computer...

[*kryogenix*]

I think I'll opt for the cheaper SKU.

That is, if I want it. If Perfect Dark Zero isn't all it's hyped up to be, I will lose interest in the 360.

[edit]Wow, the cheaper version stinks. I didn't know it wouldn't be Live and HD compatible. Don't even consider getting the $299 version. It's just not worth it.

[lanbexx]

for all the look issues the xbox haters have, why not look at the wonderfully sculpted PS3 controller? looks like an ugly ass boomerang.

the cheaper one is live compatible, it just wont come with live automatically. and the HD is detachable. the cheaper one is just the same with less accessories.

one big thing xbox has over PS3 is xbox live. Playstation's doesnt even come close

[*kryogenix*]

for all the look issues the xbox haters have, why not look at the wonderfully sculpted PS3 controller? looks like an ugly ass boomerang.

the cheaper one is live compatible, it just wont come with live automatically. and the HD is detachable. the cheaper one is just the same with less accessories.

one big thing xbox has over PS3 is xbox live. Playstation's doesnt even come close

Exactly. It's not Live compatible out of the box. It's pretty much crippleware. It's not worth buying. The $400 is the one worth buying. But $400 is more money than I'm willing to spend.

[ThunderEvermore]

Im gonna save my 400$ for this.

[lanbexx]

meh, microsoft is shooting itself in the foot with this one. they're essentially competing with themselves in the media pc market.

microsoft is taking console gaming in the wrong direction here. they're trying to capture console gaming and make it pc gaming.

merging with the 360 thread.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55865

well, the ps3 is apparently going the same "direction" as the xbox. DVR, dvd burner... etc. plust it will debut higher than the xbox. they seemed to have copied the microsoft strategy and are selling a "bare bones" one and a much higher priced one. and the other one is 500 dollars.

[*kryogenix*]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55865

well, the ps3 is apparently going the same "direction" as the xbox. DVR, dvd burner... etc. plust it will debut higher than the xbox. they seemed to have copied the microsoft strategy and are selling a "bare bones" one and a much higher priced one. and the other one is 500 dollars.

Oh please no. Sony will be shooting themselves in the foot if they use two SKUs.

[pandamonium]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55865

well, the ps3 is apparently going the same "direction" as the xbox. DVR, dvd burner... etc. plust it will debut higher than the xbox. they seemed to have copied the microsoft strategy and are selling a "bare bones" one and a much higher priced one. and the other one is 500 dollars.

are you serious dvr?? wth thats way too much. that isnt really necessary.

[gotahemmi55]

it looks sweet, i'll totally have to get it

[ThunderEvermore]

Honestly, who is going to buy a "server" PS3 and a bunch of standalones?

Games used to be about family. They used to gather groups of kids and adults alike around one screen to create a family dynamic. It was like having a family dinner, but entertaining. And now its just become a cash cow, something people try to make more money in, or make more and more advanced, when FUN cant be advanced, technologically or otherwise.

[ThunderEvermore]

Notice: Xbox 360 has officially said their release date.

US: November 22
Euro: Dec 2
Jap: Dec 10

Thoughts?

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

Notice: Xbox 360 has officially said their release date.

US: November 22
Euro: Dec 2
Jap: Dec 10

Thoughts?

Yeah, didn't it come out in Japan last time first?

[ThunderEvermore]

Check out the production line footage!

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

Check out the production line footage!

Oh god, hahaha. They are all chinese too. WOw.
Youhave alot of time on your hands don't you?

[ThunderEvermore]

Oh god, hahaha. They are all chinese too. WOw.
Youhave alot of time on your hands don't you?

Wait, Im not every chinese guy on that tape, so no.

No Im kidding. Yeah this all took me like 10 minutes to find. The advantages of surfing different MBs at the same time are great.

[*kryogenix*]

So, which SKU is everyone planning to buy?

[sadolakced acid]

Honestly, who is going to buy a "server" PS3 and a bunch of standalones?

how about agaming cafe, where you pay money and play with your friends on a nice couch in front of a 66 inch plasma screen?

not sure if they exist, but they could.

[ThunderEvermore]

how about agaming cafe, where you pay money and play with your friends on a nice couch in front of a 66 inch plasma screen?

not sure if they exist, but they could.

Ok maybe in japan they do that, but Ive never seen a place like that that didnt prodominatnly use computers instead of game systems.

And it is aimed at families, not businesses.

[*xcaitlinx*]

So, which SKU is everyone planning to buy?

SKU means...?

well, i'm assuming it means whether you're going to buy the ps3 or xbox 360.

i'm definitely getting the xbox 360 because i've always thought that the graphics are a lot better than playstation. i also like the controllers a lot more.

[*kryogenix*]

SKU means...?

well, i'm assuming it means whether you're going to buy the ps3 or xbox 360.

i'm definitely getting the xbox 360 because i've always thought that the graphics are a lot better than playstation. i also like the controllers a lot more.

SKU means stock keeping unit. There are two Xbox360 SKU's. The Core package, which is the $299 package, and the $399 Premium package.


The $299 package should not even be sold, in my opinion.

[ThunderEvermore]

SKU means stock keeping unit. There are two Xbox360 SKU's. The Core package, which is the $299 package, and the $399 Premium package.
The $299 package should not even be sold, in my opinion.

Yeah, really. I mean, whats the point?

Now, I have a question, can you play online with the Silver Xbox Live subscription? Or do you have to be upgraded to play?

BTW, Im not getting one unless I win it from mountain dew, of which I have 5 caps now, so yay!!

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

Silver gives you everthing BUT online play.

[ThunderEvermore]

Silver gives you everthing BUT online play.

Ok thats worthless.

Man. Both of the lower packages for this system stink.

[*mipadi*]

I'm certainly impressed by the technical specifications of the Xbox 360 (especially from an engineering standpoint), but it does make me wonder: does a gaming system really need all that power?

[*kryogenix*]

I'm certainly impressed by the technical specifications of the Xbox 360 (especially from an engineering standpoint), but it does make me wonder: does a gaming system really need all that power?

I think so. With that much power, we won't need as much disc space to store prerendered FMVs, which are causing game sizes to skyrocket (FF7, I blame you). The console can use the games engine to create a scene that looks just as good as a prerendered FMV.

What worries me is that Sony and Microsoft are planning on using new drives that can hold more information. While this may not be a bad thing, I am worried that this will allow the developers to stay lazy and use FMVs.

Plus, the AI should be better.

[uLoVeMikeRoch]

I think so. With that much power, we won't need as much disc space to store prerendered FMVs, which are causing game sizes to skyrocket (FF7, I blame you). The console can use the games engine to create a scene that looks just as good as a prerendered FMV.

What worries me is that Sony and Microsoft are planning on using new drives that can hold more information. While this may not be a bad thing, I am worried that this will allow the developers to stay lazy and use FMVs.

Plus, the AI should be better.

AI won't get better. And it's not just Final Fantasys fault. There are other games that used the multi disk function. Remember Metal Gear Solid? Hey, even Rival Schools used it, not continuaslly. (spelling is wrong) But they still used it.

Also the Blu-Rays are gonna cost wayy much more. Same thing with the hd-dvd but not as much.

[SilentDeath]

I think i'm going to like the 360 if I get it because right now the starting price is like a stab to the face.... Anyways... It looks like it's gonna have some good games.

[AngryBaby]

i played the xbox 360 at best buy. i got to play a demo of call of duty 2.
let me just say.

sickest thing ive ever played. i played that same level about 4 times before i had to go without getting bored or anything. its freakin intense, god i love that game, this might make me change my mind about waiting for the ps3.


you should have saw it, they had so much security over the 360 haha. glass cases, bolts, metal, alarm, you wouldve thought it was like the crown of king Tut or something lol.

[sadolakced acid]

i want games that aren't just preordained action.

like.. if you want an action game, then make a game around battle royale. make it like battle royale. exactly, but with different characters. don't concentrate on good graphics. current gen graphics are fine. devote most the processing power to having 40 some odd computer controled characters that will hide if you come at them with a gun and they have a fork, instead of standing there stupidly trying to hit you with the fork.

and how about a naval game, where you're in charge of a ship? i don't think there's one of those.

and they you could have an 18th century version. and a pirate version. and a submarine version.

`sigh. all this processing power, and all it goes towards is some prettier lakes and rocks.



very open to sequels, just have different personalities, different characters, different weapons, and a different island.

and such.

and then like for racing games, where's the crashes? i played one with these great graphics, but the car was invincible. it wouldn't crunch. i hit other cars, they spun out, but remained intact. would be fun to see a pit crew run around the car, and occasionally mess up.


and halo. i tried to play halo. (well halo two). all i saw were aliens that you randomly shot at. wasn't really fun, if you ask me. characters in the game kept directing me where to go. still rather confusing. i must say the alien guts looked quite good tho.


how about a heist game with no guns? i'm sure there's probably a heist game, but i'll bet that you still carry a gun and you still battle the guards.

that'd be an interesting one- put in a racing part of it too.

[AngryBaby]

They do improve on everything not just good graphics^ i mean if you actually play the games like i did, you'll see a big difference in gameplay. check out gametrailers.com or something if you wanna see the ps3 and 360 games actually played.
they made the AI incredibly smart in all the demos i played even Kameo. like in Call of Duty the people just dont wait around for you to shoot them. they try to flank your squad and crap, and actually out smart you. i mean they did that in previous console games so you should know most good games now the AI dont act stupid anymore.


infact the graphics on the xbox 360 werent as good as i anticipated, i mean dont get me wrong they were great, but they were kinda like graphics on a very high end computer game. so they definately focused on gameplay. and when i also played ghost recon 3, and alot of other demos like Kameo and such. the games are just..... i cant explain it, the entertainment value went up in ways that previous consoles just cant do. which makes them more fun and addictive and a totally different experience.

your depiction on what the games are offereing is very incorrect my good sir.

and then like for racing games, where's the crashes? i played one with these great graphics, but the car was invincible. it wouldn't crunch. i hit other cars, they spun out, but remained intact. would be fun to see a pit crew run around the car, and occasionally mess up.

you dont no much about games do you? lol ever heard of "Burnout"?
you say you want a pit crew, look at this gran turismo

[sadolakced acid]

^

hmmm...

can you run over the pit crew?


they improve upon existing gameplay no doubt, but not on fundamentals, like the point of the game and all...

[*kryogenix*]

i want games that aren't just preordained action.

like..  if you want an action game, then make a game around battle royale.  make it like battle royale.  exactly, but with different characters.  don't concentrate on good graphics.  current gen graphics are fine.  devote most the processing power to having 40 some odd computer controled characters that will hide if you come at them with a gun and they have a fork, instead of standing there stupidly trying to hit you with the fork.

and how about a naval game, where you're in charge of a ship?  i don't think there's one of those.

and they you could have an 18th century version.  and a pirate version.    and a submarine version.

`sigh.  all this processing power, and all it goes towards is some prettier lakes and rocks.
very open to sequels, just have different personalities, different characters, different weapons, and a different island.

and such.

and then like for racing games, where's the crashes?  i played one with these great graphics, but the car was invincible.  it wouldn't crunch.  i hit other cars, they spun out, but remained intact.  would be fun to see a pit crew run around the car, and occasionally mess up. 
and halo.  i tried to play halo.  (well halo two). all i saw were aliens that you randomly shot at.    wasn't really fun, if you ask me.  characters in the game kept directing me where to go.  still rather confusing.  i must say the alien guts looked quite good tho.
how about a heist game with no guns?  i'm sure there's probably a heist game, but i'll bet that you still carry a gun and you still battle the guards.

that'd be an interesting one- put in a racing part of it too.

In fairness, IIRC, some developers have said they will use the additional power to create better AI. Also, try Forza Motorsport for the XBOX if you want to play a racing game with crashes. I play NavyField, an MMORPG, which is controlling a ship.

[sadolakced acid]

how about an 18th century pirate ship? because that would rock...

[AngryBaby]

they made plenty games on ships ya know^ lol

^ 

hmmm...

can you run over the pit crew? 

lol

[sadolakced acid]

screw that. i've been cut off from the gaming world for too long.

ehh.

[*mipadi*]

how about an 18th century pirate ship?  because that would rock...

Sid Meier's Pirates.

[sadolakced acid]

how about one where you're a high school student and then suddenly one day when you're in school your high school flys away and it turns out half your classmates were aliens?

[ThunderEvermore]

how about one where you're a high school student and then suddenly one day when you're in school your high school flys away and it turns out half your classmates were aliens?

Halo 2

[*kryogenix*]

Next Generation starts 4 hours, 50 mins.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

Man, $400 Xbox 360....$500 PS3....ouch.

[verlorenrivets]

As geek squad, I get to sell this thing.

That's right, because it's a computer.

*raises the roof*

Maybe I should go back to sleep.

[*xcaitlinx*]

my dad went to best buy this morning when it opened to buy it, but it was already sold out. some nuts camped out for days in front of the store. crazy people.

[ThunderEvermore]

My local BJs, where I happen to work, is getting it, but not on launch. And they have no idea when it WILL be in.

Damn I want one, but I shouldnt spend the horrible amount of money for it.

[medic]

I am a proud owner of the Xbox 360 Pro Bundle with Hard Drive... All for $719.24. Its worth the money...

This is the Error I got when I orderd Quake 4 with the bundle,

Warning: This title may contain intense violence, blood, and gore, sexual content, and/or strong language. You must be 17 or older to purchase this item. This product is intended for mature audiences only. By ordering this item you are certifying that you are at least 17 years of age.

[vash1530]

so far i've played PDZero, madden, PGR, Quake, and NFSMW, and they all are AMAZING!!!

[sadolakced acid]

I am a proud owner of the Xbox 360 Pro Bundle with Hard Drive... All for $719.24. Its worth the money...

This is the Error I got when I orderd Quake 4 with the bundle,

so i take it, if you're still saying it's worth the money, yours did not crash?

[*xcaitlinx*]

so far i've played PDZero, madden, PGR, Quake, and NFSMW, and they all are AMAZING!!!

i heard madden sucked major ass.

my dad's still trying to get his hands on the xbox. haha he'll go to a site online and it'll say that it's instock...then he'll press "add to cart" and it'll already be sold out. i feel sorry for him.

[suzakunomiko]

Someone I know said he is selling the Pro Bundle at work at Radio Shack but he doubted anyone would spring for it. Guess I can tell him he was wrong.

[*kryogenix*]

i heard madden sucked major ass.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Madden-NFL-2006-Xbox-B...1QQcmdZViewItem