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post Apr 11 2005, 08:21 PM
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hey i listen to a lot of rock. but like i`m confuesd with the genres. like i mean i usually dont analyze it or anything. so can u guys help me out? like define some rock genres like alternative, (i know emo & punk lol), indie, grunge... etc. and name some bands that go with it.
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 08:54 PM
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hmm, i'll do two:

emo- a branch of the d.c. punk scene in the late 80s with more emotional lyrics than their other, more hardcore, genre mates. it has gone through many transformations, and the term is now given usually to pop punk bands with sensitive lyrics or whiney acoustic bands. i personally think these bands are not part of the genre and that the genre is dead, but that's just my take.
examples: rites of spring, fugazi, and sunny day real estate.

indie- personally, i just think that it's bands on an indie label or bands that have the indie label sound... this is rather a broad category.
examples: pedro the lion, mates of state, and neutral milk hotel.



edit: sorry, i didn't see that it says "i know emo & punk"... oh well.
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 08:55 PM
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grunge, i guess you can go with nirvana (check them out, their good). indie, some consider bright eyes indie, but i've also heard them catagorized under emo. eh...punk...you said you had a pretty good idia...emo you said you had a pretty good idia...well...

oh yah, screamo.

screamo is like emo, but uh...screaming. check out my chemical romance, the used, and so on and so fourth.

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post Apr 11 2005, 08:57 PM
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Metal and hard rock -- Heavy rock that usually focuses on the guitars. cool.gif There are even a lot of sub-genres of metal and hard rock. Goth metal, death metal, black metal, etc.
Two examples would be Children of Bodom and Dimmu Borgir.

Ska -- Upbeat rock with a brassline. (trumpets and trombones, mainly)
Two examples would be Reel Big Fish and Less Than Jake.
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(gOODpIRATE @ Apr 11 2005, 5:55 PM)
screamo is like emo, but uh...screaming. check out my chemical romance, the used, and so on and so fourth.
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eh, i personally think those bands are just slightly darker versions of pop punk, but that's just my take. while we're on the subject:

pop punk- poppy rock bands + slight punk edge. usually don't have the smartest lyrics or lots of musical variety.
examples: new found glory, count the stars, and allister.
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(william @ Apr 11 2005, 7:02 PM)
eh, i personally think those bands are just slightly darker versions of pop punk, but that's just my take. while we're on the subject:

pop punk- poppy rock bands + slight punk edge. usually don't have the smartest lyrics or lots of musical variety.
examples: new found glory, count the stars, and allister.
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post Apr 11 2005, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(gOODpIRATE @ Apr 11 2005, 8:55 PM)
grunge, i guess you can go with nirvana (check them out, their good). indie, some consider bright eyes indie, but i've also heard them catagorized under emo. eh...punk...you said you had a pretty good idia...emo you said you had a pretty good idia...well...

oh yah, screamo.

screamo is like emo, but uh...screaming. check out my chemical romance, the used, and so on and so fourth.

hope that helps  biggrin.gif
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My chemical romance is NOT screamo. The used is somewhat screamo, but not fully. If you want screamo, check out (old) Underoath, Silverstein, As I Lay Dying, Norma Jean.. etc etc.
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 09:12 PM
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^ haha. i bought their first cd about a year ago and i can vouch it's better than their stuff that's on the radio now.
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:40 PM
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ehh...

classical-def lepord,van halen, iron maiden, led zepplin, mr.big(yes i love them)

pop/rock- simple plan, good charolette, greenday(yes it's true cry.gif)

grunge- nirvana(oh my i love them!) mudvayne

alt./christian- chevelle,skillet,lost prophets,the used,letter kills

rap-metal- crossfade, linkin park, slipknot,p.o.d., limp bizkit, crazy angelos

metal-slayer, marilyn manson(sorta), metallica(used to be)

ozzy(is a genre all his own) mississippi queen!
 
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:53 PM
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four genres i listen to in the best of my understanding (though you may beg to differ)

psychedelia (60s) -
songs with very little structure, it was a time when they all experimented with music and didn't give themselves limits in what they wrote. british influences were very high.
Bands: The Beatles, Cream, The Doors, The Rolling Stones

progressive (70s) -
came out of british psychedelia -- music that was made to listen to, not to dance to.
Bands: Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, Queen, Jethro Tull

heavy metal (80s) -
type of music that exploits everything, I guess you could say. Loud guitars, repetitive riffs... all that good stuff.
Bands: Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Guns N' Roses

grunge (90s) -
originated in Seattle, pretty much a mix between punk and heavy metal.
Bands: Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains
Nirvana made it mainstream.
 
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post Apr 12 2005, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(D1SMANTLED @ Apr 11 2005, 7:07 PM)
My chemical romance is NOT screamo. The used is somewhat screamo, but not fully. If you want screamo, check out (old) Underoath, Silverstein, As I Lay Dying, Norma Jean.. etc etc.
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post Apr 12 2005, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(william @ Apr 11 2005, 6:54 PM)
hmm, i'll do two:

emo- a branch of the d.c. punk scene in the late 80s with more emotional lyrics than their other, more hardcore, genre mates. it has gone through many transformations, and the term is now given usually to pop punk bands with sensitive lyrics or whiney acoustic bands. i personally think these bands are not part of the genre and that the genre is dead, but that's just my take.
examples: rites of spring, fugazi, and sunny day real estate.

indie- personally, i just think that it's bands on an indie label or bands that have the indie label sound... this is rather a broad category.
examples: pedro the lion, mates of state, and neutral milk hotel.
edit: sorry, i didn't see that it says "i know emo & punk"... oh well.
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actually, indie has a sound too
 
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post Apr 12 2005, 07:28 PM
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well.. alternative punk- the killers.. umm that's all I really know.. >_<
 
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post Apr 12 2005, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(swe3ttemptasian @ Apr 12 2005, 5:28 PM)
well.. alternative punk- the killers.. umm that's all I really know.. >_<
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QUOTE(ItzOnlySydney @ Apr 11 2005, 11:40 PM)
rap-metal- crossfade, linkin park, slipknot,p.o.d., limp bizkit, crazy angelos
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That category would most likely end up being "nu metal" rather than "rap-metal."
Linkin Park raps, yes, but they're not metal at all. They're rock.
Slipknot only rapped in about two or three songs on only one main album. That would be their self-titled. Okay, yeah, they rapped in one song on Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat., but people don't take that album into consideration, seeing that there were completely different members (except for about four members of today's Slipknot) and because that was kind of like an EP album...They were just trying things out.

Anyway...

I don't consider really any of those bands to be "rap-metal." Possibly Limp Bizkit, but I think that category would end up being "nu metal," although I despise that name.
 
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post Apr 12 2005, 08:37 PM
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^ me 2. thats why say i rap metal instead.
 
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post Apr 12 2005, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(learninghowtofall @ Apr 12 2005, 4:26 PM)
actually, indie has a sound too
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yeah, that's why i said "i personally think". but i always thought it was just an indie label sound. it's too much of a broad genre to give one sound too, especially since it's really diverse. i guess i could have defined "indie rock" instead...
 
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QUOTE(ItzOnlySydney @ Apr 12 2005, 9:37 PM)
^ me 2. thats why say i rap metal instead.
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post Apr 12 2005, 08:49 PM
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^ haha, someone obviously doesn't read rolleyes.gif.
 
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QUOTE(swe3ttemptasian @ Apr 12 2005, 6:28 PM)
well.. alternative punk- the killers.. umm that's all I really know.. >_<
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err..alternative punk?..i don't think that even is a genre. and if so, the killers is not alternative punk. they're like..technoish indie. but i guess they'd go in indie.

anyone know where ted leo and the pharmacists would go? me and kimmee don't know. we said it was undefined. mellow.gif
 
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QUOTE(jennypie @ Apr 11 2005, 9:53 PM)
four genres i listen to in the best of my understanding (though you may beg to differ)

psychedelia (60s) -
songs with very little structure, it was a time when they all experimented with music and didn't give themselves limits in what they wrote. british influences were very high.
Bands: The Beatles, Cream, The Doors, The Rolling Stones

progressive (70s) -
came out of british psychedelia -- music that was made to listen to, not to dance to.
Bands: Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, Queen, Jethro Tull

heavy metal (80s) -
type of music that exploits everything, I guess you could say. Loud guitars, repetitive riffs... all that good stuff.
Bands: Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Guns N' Roses

grunge (90s) -
originated in Seattle, pretty much a mix between punk and heavy metal.
Bands: Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains
Nirvana made it mainstream.
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led zeplin isnt heavy metal neither is aerosmith or gun n roses, or def leppard thos e are classic rock
 
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post Apr 12 2005, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(skateforfree @ Apr 12 2005, 9:27 PM)
led zeplin isnt heavy metal neither is aerosmith or gun n roses, or def leppard thos e are classic rock
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actually they are all heavy metal, classic rock is just an extremely vague definition for the rock bands formed in the 60s-80s(ish) for the radio.

if you feel the need to disagree more that they aren't heavy metal, go ahead, and please actually have some back up ;)

ps. zeppelin.
 
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Let me see....I'll start with my faves and work my way down the list...

Industrial - I just call it "rap for white people". that's what it boils down to, really. Good beats, sometimes joined with crunchy guitars for an aggressive effect (KMFDM, Front 242) other times it's joined by a full band or just a single vocalist to make it more "listener friendly" (Nine Inch Nails). The roots of industrial music are just plain bizarre. People who got frustrated with the punk and rock scenes and went to the extreme side of things. Banging on pipes, cutting themselves, shorting out speakers, television static and lots of screaming qualified as industrial, as did early machine-generated music like Kraftwerk (today, the music is called "techno"). Synths became popular and then mainstream music found them. The hybrid of synthpop was born. Industrial music's heyday was from about 1989-1994, the majority of the top-notch industrial bands coming from Europe, but the US also had a few good ones as well. Industrial music is coming back in a new forms, one that goes back to it's roots in punk and combines it with its own bizarre-ness and one that strips it down and takes it back to the dancefloors

Noteworthy bands: Kraftwerk, KMFDM, Nine Inch Nails, Depeche Mode, Front 242, Ministry, Mindless Self Indulgence, and The Faint.

Goth - It's a broad genre, but I'll do my best here. The goth scene was an offshoot of the punk scene. Goth is the original emo, really, a bunch of broken-hearts and depressives looking for a good beat beat the dance to and lyrics to describe their emotions. "Music as black as my heart..." The goth scene had it's heyday in the mid-80's and resurfaced again in the mid-90's. True goth music has changed very little over the past 20 years (mainly cuz there's no new bands coming in and out of the scene). Joy Division and The Brithday Party were closer to the punk scene and really gave birth to the goth genre. The Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus were the first "goth" bands, specializing in that dark, moody, depressive feeling that is "goth". The Cure was music for the more broken-hearted goths. The last two bands were "revival" bands from the mid-90's. Switchblade claimed that they weren't goth, Rosetta Stone simply disappeared from the scene as quickly as they'd come.

Highlights: Joy Division, The Birthday Party, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, The Cure, Switchblade Symphony, and Rosetta Stone.

Metal - Metal has so many sub-genres, it's ridiculous. Let's start at the beginning...Once upon a time, there was a group of English guys who loved blues and loved taking LSD and smoking pot. They started playing a strange new type of music that was "heavy, dark, mysterious, and some say "satanic". They were (and still are) called Black Sabbath. Many people were inspired by Sabbath's sound, and they went on the form new bands or change their bands music to keep up with the new sound. There was Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Led Zeppelin, Kiss, Rush, Aerosmith...then, in the late 70's a little English band called Vader shook things up a bit. They played a song called "black metal" and sub-genre was born. Black metal, however, didn't really take hold until the 90's, so we'll leave it along for awhile.
Thrash metal, however, was an 80's phenomenon. From about '81 to '86, thrash was the name of the metal, baby. Young bands like Metallica and Slayer became hits, Iron Maiden jumped from obscurity to stardom and Judas Priest became a household name. Each band had their own specialty. Metallica was a pissed-off band that sand about everyday life, in their own way. Slayer was dark and "satanic", singing about the devil, killing, blood and anything else they liked. Maiden sang about history, fighting, and whatever else there was. Priest, well I don't think anyone really understood what they were singing about until Halford came out...
Hair metal took over in the late 80's. It was poppy and crap to the hardcore metal and punk fans. Catchy riffs, tight pants, and the motto "The bigger the hair, the closer to God.", proved to true. Bands like Twisted Sister and The Scorpions were okay. Metal went underground and met up with the agitated punk scene to form hardcore. Hardcore was strictly piss-off and get f**ked and stay away from me. Punk ethos combined with metal aggression formed this little scene. Stormtroopers of Death, DRI, and Suicidal Tendencies made up the late 80's version of the hardcore scene, joined by members of the hardocre punk scene like Black Flag.
Metal took a vacation after the late 80's and most of the 90's. Grunge came into play during the 90's, with bands like Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Peral Jam, Soundgarden and Mudhoney reveling in their successes and dying from overdoses. Meanwhile, in Europe, a group of pissed off psychos were coming up with a new form of extreme metal called "black metal". Called so because it focused on things like Satan, Satanism, black magic and violence. The only thing that I can say about this scene was that they are most definately very f**ked up. Bands like Emperor, Immortal, Mayhem and Burzum really created a new and disturbing sound. Today, bands like Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir have more or less popularized black metal by combining it with classical music and synths, making it more "listener-friendly".
A band called Pantera breathed life into the American metal scene during the 90's, creating an ass-kicking lesson in metal brilliance. The took the pissed off attitude of hardcore, the riffs of thrash and the pure emotion of the south and brought metal back from the dead. Other bands during this era in metal capatilized on different styles, but brought life back to the ailing scene. White Zombie created a metal/industrial/acid trip that was second to none. Corrosion of Conformity smothered the scene in southern style. Cannibal Corpse pushed a new, extreme form of metal called "death metal" into the outer edges of mainstream.
Exit the era of revival and now what come after is a disappointment...nu-metal. A fusion of rap, metal and marketing that is strictly entertainment. Bands like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Korn, and countless no-name bands jump aboard this craze. Other bands come from this era as well, but they capitilize on different styles. I call this group of bands "the Masked Bands" cuz they all wore masks in their heyday. Slipknot is like an assault to your senses. Take the aggression of Cannibal Corpse, the beats of a industrial/rap madman, and the lyrics of a group of f*d up midwesterners and you have Slipknot. Mudvayne follows suit with a slightly toned down sound. Mushroomhead breaks through with their sleeker version of Slipknotic sound (called so because Slipknot made it popular, despite the fact that Mushroomhead was around longer.)
Now, metal has cycled back to its hardcore roots. There's a great variety in the sounds of these bands, more so than in the old days, and some of the music is more melodic. There's a whole bunch of bands in this catagory...bands like Killswitch Engage and In Flames, who both had a hand in creating the melodic side of the scene. There's bands like Children of Bodom and Kalmah who are more thrash influenced and have a harder sound. Then you have bands like Underoath, He Is Legend, and Dead Poetic, who represent the Christian side of the scene, which is the largest and fastest growing part of the scene. Then there's bands out there that are hardcore but don't really claim a part in the scene (as far as I know), like Bleeding Through, Most Precious Blood, Dillinger Escape Plan, Bury Your Dead....Metal is still alive and thriving, albeit in a new form.

Bands to know: Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Metallica (early albums only), Suicidal Tendencies, Black Flag, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Emperor, Burzum, Pantera, White Zombie, Danzig, Static-X, Slipknot, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Arch Enemy, Extol, and Bleeding Through....many more....
 
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QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Apr 12 2005, 9:12 PM)
err..alternative punk?..i don't think that even is a genre. and if so, the killers is not alternative punk. they're like..technoish indie. but i guess they'd go in indie.

anyone know where ted leo and the pharmacists would go? me and kimmee don't know. we said it was undefined. mellow.gif
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alternative, perhaps?
 
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post Apr 13 2005, 11:38 AM
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ted leo are... hmm... indie i would say.

i dont understand why you've called the killers punk, by the way, who ever it was
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techno pop rock

AND you know whats good? GunsnRoses... psssh THAT is classic rock
 
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yea i get a bit confused too..like indie rock and stuffs. but ppl say like indie rock is like mae (even though i dont think so). i think alternative rock is like incubus. goths...i would say smashing pumpkins..although they are of no more. i could be wrong. hhaha
 
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i like rock :) but i'm nmot really sure what bands i like.. just anything with good music..
 
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grunge, i guess you can go with nirvana (check them out, their good). indie, some consider bright eyes indie, but i've also heard them catagorized under emo. eh...punk...you said you had a pretty good idia...emo you said you had a pretty good idia...well...

oh yah, screamo.

screamo is like emo, but uh...screaming. check out my chemical romance, the used, and so on and so fourth.


yeah i love nirvana & the used (:
 
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i think its annoying how all these preppy ppl started listen to pop punk stuff and claim their a hradcore punk or w/e or atleast its like that at my school
 
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they pretty much have explained it up there but my uncle said that alternative rock is rock music but slower and not as ROCKy...
 
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i think its annoying how all these preppy ppl started listen to pop punk stuff and claim their a hradcore punk or w/e or atleast its like that at my school

yes that pisses me off too. clearly they are posers. i listen to emo but i don`t act punk.


QUESTION: someone told me that indie is the same as underground. is that true?

and another one. what would breaking benjamin be? one of my friends says its metal (i disagree) and the other says its alternative (im not sure about that either.)
 
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^ i consider, like i said earlier, indie to be artists on independant labels or artists with that sound. independant labels are of course, more underground than the five main recording labels. so they're similar... but bands like bright eyes and taking back sunday are on indie labels, and they're both huge.
 
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Death Metal - Dimmu Borgir, Cradle Of Filth
Goth Metal - Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, HIM
Techno Metal <3
Industrial - Deadstar Assembly, Orgy
At this point I'll stop naming bands, cuz im going braindead.
Emo/Screamo
Indie Rock </3</3 HATE
Indie
80's Hair Metal
Speed Metal
Hard Rock
Punk
Alternative Metal
Alternative
Classic Rock
Classic Metal
Christian Rock
Ska

oh wow, there's so many more, that's all I could roll off my head right now.
 
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QUOTE(william @ Apr 12 2005, 8:39 PM)
yeah, that's why i said "i personally think". but i always thought it was just an indie label sound. it's too much of a broad genre to give one sound too, especially since it's really diverse. i guess i could have defined "indie rock" instead...
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i dont think indie is based primarily on rock .....there is such thing as indie rap , indie jazz....etc ......i believe indie means "independent" ....as in such ...independent from certain labels....there music doesnt categorize on there genre ......bands i would think of some are :Fiona Apple, Bjork, Ani DiFranco, Doria Roberts, Coldplay, John Mayer, Norah Jones, Phish, Dar Williams, The Flaming Lips, Jack Johnson, Indigo Girls, Joni Mitchell, Sarah McLachlan, Dilated People, G Love, The Streets, Avenue Q
 
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QUOTE(xhiddenemotion @ Apr 11 2005, 9:21 PM)
hey i listen to a lot of rock. but like i`m confuesd with the genres. like i mean i usually dont analyze it or anything. so can u guys help me out? like define some rock genres like alternative, (i know emo & punk lol), indie, grunge... etc. and name some bands that go with it.
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Grinspoon= Heavy metal.
Iron Maiden= Heavy metal/Hard rock.
Kiss= Hard Rock.
Blink-182= Grunge.


There's more, but I can't think of it now.
 
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post Apr 14 2005, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(xiMiJix @ Apr 14 2005, 1:28 AM)
i dont think indie is based primarily on rock .....there is such thing as indie rap , indie jazz....etc ......i believe indie means "independent" ....as in such ...independent from certain labels....there music doesnt categorize on there genre ......bands i would think of some are :Fiona Apple, Bjork, Ani DiFranco, Doria Roberts, Coldplay, John Mayer, Norah Jones, Phish, Dar Williams, The Flaming Lips, Jack Johnson, Indigo Girls, Joni Mitchell, Sarah McLachlan, Dilated People, G Love, The Streets, Avenue Q
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i didn't say that... i said i guess i could have defined indie rock instead of indie since it's too broad to give one sound too (i thought that implied the subgenre thing... sorry if that was confusing). and yeah, i usually consider bands to be indie if they're on an independant label (as i've said i think three times in here), but the thing is some bands that are considered indie, such as the flaming lips, are on major labels... which is why i said "indie sounding bands". yeeeah.
 
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post May 6 2005, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(Xx ~ MaTT ~ xX @ Apr 14 2005, 2:50 PM)
Blink-182= Grunge.
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What the heck? Blink 182 came after grunge. Therefore they are not grunge. Maybe they have some Nirvana influences in them but WHERE WOULD YOU GET THAT THEY ARE GRUNGE?
 

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