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think about it, i know like 700 christians are gonna come and scream at me but think about it, he WAS middle eastern...and there is no proof he isnt...so if jesus was black....wouldnt that mean all society is wrong? AND THE WHITE MAN SHOULD BE ON BOTTOM? oh that would be fun...
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interesting thought...it is possible..but not all ppl from the middle east r black...thats what i think..
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I don't think Jesus was all about who was on the bottom or top.
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shouldn't in theory, no one be on the bottom?? and i hate to say it, but i don't think most of the population would care what race jesus was(i'm a christian tho
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ah it doesn't matter
everyone's a person there are many crayons in a box can you make a masterpiece if all of them were red crayons? |
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^^ hehe. possibly..let me go try..lol
![]() ya, I dunno. i've never really thought about what race jesus was. i guess it doesn't really matter, at least to me. But not all middle eastern peopel are black? are they? lol i am not good at the geography of cultures. my test scores can prove it ![]() |
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not all are black but Most are. I'm from middle east and every one i've met is black cept like 2
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really? weird? where in the middle east are you from. Is lebanon considered part of the middle east or no?
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I"m not sure if it is...I'm from Iran
and what the hell knida race is red? |
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gigi =p ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,679 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,206 ![]() |
Being Middle Eastern doesn't mean you're black, you idiot.
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i never said that. poophead
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QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 10:49 PM) Uh, I think he meant that many colors is better than just one. As in, wouldn't a picture of a garden look prettier in lots of colors instead of just red. Just like wouldn't the world be better with lots of diversity, such as different skin colors. Just a thought. ![]() |
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That's weird to say. Why should ANYONE be on the "bottom" there are plenty of people of all DIFFERENT colors living in poverty. I doubt Jesus' skin color has ANYTHING to do with that?! That is a correlation I've never heard of. Shouldn't this be in "debate" anyway?
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Hmm im christian and im open to the fact that jesus wasn't white. I've always thought that it was kinda weird that jesus was a white guy when he was middle eastern. but heh idk
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QUOTE(lolthissiteisfunny @ Mar 28 2005, 11:57 PM) Uh, I think he meant that many colors is better than just one. As in, wouldn't a picture of a garden look prettier in lots of colors instead of just red. Just like wouldn't the world be better with lots of diversity, such as different skin colors. Just a thought. ![]() i knew that...right... and Come on people dont want there to be a Social Triangle but there is! People treat white people with respect. but most of those people wont treat another race with the same respect than they did with the white guy. |
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QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 8:55 PM) Then what you said in your first post isn't cohesive. First you said that Jesus was middle-eastern, then you said he's black. They aren't even relevant to each other. And besides, from the fact that you said if Jesus was black, society would be all wrong, then you imply that being black makes society all wrong. And also, Jesus wouldn't care if people were black or not, so why the hell would it matter if Jesus was black, white, yellow, or purple? It wouldn't. Basically, your post revolves around racism; funny, considering how Jesus loves everyone. And don't call me a poophead. No one's called me a poophead since third grade. |
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He was born in Bethlehem, and Mary and Joseph don't look very black to me.
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^ how do you know what Mary and Joseph looked like?
Does it even matter? It wouldnt make a difference to me whether he was black, white, or effing purple for that matter. Why even question it? |
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how many times did u just say "and also" but i'm just saying Jesus IS middle eastern but he MAY be black. and also ONE of the reasons why most whites r prominat or w/e is cuz of their belifes and most christains belive, jesus =white. i'm just saying their minds would get screwed up and that would mean that black people MAY be more successfull in life and RESPECT becuase of that.
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Jesus was Asian. This, you cannot dispute.
Duh. (If you can't figure it out, learn some geography) |
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Yes, the bible says Jesus' skin wuz burnt brass. But dat don't mean he wuz black. Jesus is Everythang.
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QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 29 2005, 12:16 AM) how many times did u just say "and also" but i'm just saying Jesus IS middle eastern but he MAY be black. and also ONE of the reasons why most whites r prominat or w/e is cuz of their belifes and most christains belive, jesus =white. i'm just saying their minds would get screwed up and that would mean that black people MAY be more successfull in life and RESPECT becuase of that. Whites are prominent in this country because whites came over here orignally? o.o? :o! |
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QUOTE(DaTru KataLYST @ Mar 29 2005, 12:17 AM) Well yeah the Middle East is in asia. So technically i'm Asian...but Dude, Crizzy babe, i have NO CLUE what u said so i'm gonna ignore it. Whites are prominant everywhere...in ASIA...in AFRICA...and then didnt come first in those places... |
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^ THAT did not make sense.
DID YOU KNOW?! There are more Oriental Asians in the world then Caucasians. Just for good measure, that includes India. |
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QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:16 PM) how many times did u just say "and also" but i'm just saying Jesus IS middle eastern but he MAY be black. and also ONE of the reasons why most whites r prominat or w/e is cuz of their belifes and most christains belive, jesus =white. i'm just saying their minds would get screwed up and that would mean that black people MAY be more successfull in life and RESPECT becuase of that. Um, dude, can you count? I said "and also" once. If Jesus IS Middle-Eastern, then how MAY he be black? You just contradicted yourself, genius. The people who think Jesus is white because caucasians are the dominant (yeah, that's right, dominant, not prominent) race probably are bad Christians. If you were really a good Christian, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't matter at all if Jesus was black, or whatever colour, because you only believe in the goodness of Jesus, not the way he speaks, not the way he walks, eats, or his skin colour. You can hardly blame this inequality of power between races on what race Jesus was, or what race Jesus is portrayed to be. I have never encountered such bad or inaccurate backup support on someone's opinions. Ever. |
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Well then if it's easy for you.
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Mar 29 2005, 12:20 AM) Actually no. whites were NOT here originally, but I know what you are getting at... Native Americans were here before "white" people, and they were not the first to come either...many history books believe that people from Asia were the first to settle here back before the continents split. |
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No..it would just mean that he is Hindew or something...
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see it wasnt that hard to be understood!
but I'm saying there is a chance that his Skin was black becuae he was middle eastern..and most blacks in that time were slaves...so it adds up. but some christians like you said arent good ones and believe that his white and nothing else...i'm just saying it would screw there worlds up. |
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^x2 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
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Well I say Jesus is Everythang.
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QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:26 PM) see it wasnt that hard to be understood! but I'm saying there is a chance that his Skin was black becuae he was middle eastern..and most blacks in that time were slaves...so it adds up. but some christians like you said arent good ones and believe that his white and nothing else...i'm just saying it would screw there worlds up. Oh dear. Please read over the Bible, your history textbook, your encyclopedia and atlas, I beg of you. |
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QUOTE(JC4P @ Mar 28 2005, 9:26 PM) see it wasnt that hard to be understood! but I'm saying there is a chance that his Skin was black becuae he was middle eastern..and most blacks in that time were slaves...so it adds up. but some christians like you said arent good ones and believe that his white and nothing else...i'm just saying it would screw there worlds up. Blacks were not dominately slaves at that time...it was war criminals predominantly. |
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//edit
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It has never hit me until now how many people online are so blatantly ignorant and stupid.
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QUOTE AND THE WHITE MAN SHOULD BE ON BOTTOM wow, makes white people feel very special eh? anyways this sounds like more of a... debate topic? hm. and i dunno, jesus was jesus, frick race. |
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 29 2005, 12:29 AM) You've never seen any of my posts have you? oh and idk what makes white people so special, but go ask most people are nicer to them...lets just go with there "special" |
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Wut does it matta about his race? HE DIED FOR OUR SINS, that's wut u should be worryin about. But He ain't dead.
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QUOTE(Mar 28 2005 @ 9:33 PM) you think that white people are at the top because everyone thinks Jesus is white? anyways. True. He was middle eastern. Where is Israel? Middle East. He was born in Bethlehem (sp?). He wasn't light, but he wasn't dark either. He looked like any other israelite. From a light to dark tan. rare facts: The guy in long hair with a halo over his head that everyone thinks thats Jesus's picture... well that was painted 400 YEARS before Jesus was born. Jesus' hebrew name is Yeshua. Huhh?! I swear to Vishnu a man around WWI drew an original white Jesus, and then it was copied to boost morale in the army. |
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Huh... what the heck?
Middle Eastern doesn't equal to black. |
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Dartu did u just swear? Vishnu? YOUR USING FANCY WORDS AGAIN!lol
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Seein' how people are dese dayz, they wouldn't believe you. But you're ryte. No one knows wut Jesus really looks like. But I knoe Jesus will look different from how we viewed Him.
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Talking bout views...i got a question. do u think all belifies r talking about one god in diff views? Cuz like the God, Muhhad the Muslim Messneger of god was talking bout may be jesus...
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hm, not to intrude, but i think this might go in debate?
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^^thats what i said Cassie.
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Mar 28 2005, 8:53 PM) Haha, thank you, Gigi. I was going to say something. Hm. What does it matter of the color of his skin? Truly, there is one human race. People just look different from where they have come from due to the weather conditions. I personally don't have an opinion on this, seeing myself as I turn away from my religion more and more everyday. //Edit to JC4P No, I haven't and I don't think I won't. I'm...white..you know? I don't think there are many white Buddhists, and my folks said I can;t chnage my religion until I'm a legal adult. They forced Catholisism on me. |
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QUOTE(Mar 29 2005 @ 12:42 AM) He definitly will look different. Jesus appeared like the Man of his time. When he comes back, he will appear as the Man of our time. C'mon. Don't expect him to come in a robe. He's gonna be wearing a shirt and some Jeans. Maybe a hat. Probably "Levi's" Jeans. For all who know just a lil of the bible, yall may giggle amongst yourselves. HOLY **** JESUS = USHER! hahhah jp... oh and dude...whitelotus...have u tried buddishm? its what i am... eddit:// oh that sux. My parents are split between religions so they let me go with anything i wanted... |
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Aha, Sum Levi jeans n a shirt. U is crazi! lol... But I dont think so...LOL....
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how oddly out of place would people feel when angels blare their trumpets, and a guy in jeans floats from the sky to announce our doom and apocalypse.
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hmm..i'm not a religious person. but i'm going towards jesus being black =\ . shouldlnt this topic in debate?
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What does Jesus's race have to do with who's on the bottom?
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if He were to come again, he might not even come out of the sky with blaring trumpets. maybe He's already here, just one of us. seeing how people really are.
reminds me of a song, lol! what if god was one of us, just a slob like one of us? just a stranger on the bus... trying to make his way homeee~ hehe, by joan osborne. ![]() |
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ohh! This is going to be a HOT topic. Well I chose to be Christian. Well my parents are, and their parent's parents. but down tha line wun of my family members practiced witchcraft. but they're dead now. Ehh.. get that away 4rm meeh. i dun believe in dat. Well JC4P, wut religions are ur parents?
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yea only the Saved ones will hear the trumpet sound. the dead will arise first.
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I think this topic should be in debate. But n.e ways im not sure what skin color Jesus was or is which ever way you want to put it. But dose it really matter? In my opinion it dosent really matter many poeple say his white and others say his black. So theres really no answer to it.
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If you really want answers, perhaps you should open your Bible. In the Book of Revelations, Jesus is described to have hair of wool texture, feet the color of burnt brass, and resembled jasper and sardine stones; both of which are brown in color.
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Mar 29 2005, 3:44 PM) If you really want answers, perhaps you should open your Bible. In the Book of Revelations, Jesus is described to have hair of wool texture, feet the color of burnt brass, and resembled jasper and sardine stones; both of which are brown in color. Wow... which book+verse did you get that from? I want to read it. |
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why does it matter? x__X
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LMFAOOOO jesus may be black, lol. Jesus is supposed to be jewish, are jews black? and oh who cares...
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If Jesus was portrayed as Black everywhere (cos He is portrayed as black in a lot of places)...history would be very different from what it is now.
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jesus was a jew.
and if you're worried about jesus's race, and what that means for racial superiority, then you've kinda missed the point, dearie ![]() |
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i'm not exactly christian, but i dont think that jesus was the reason why black is on thebottom or the top or whatever. that's just foolishness made up by some early americans.
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If he was middle eastern and black, then he would have to be Ethiopian. Now, he was also Jewish. Wasn't Jesus' father an extremely religious man? In Judaism, it is a sin to marry a non-Jewish woman and have a baby. Therefore, he couldn't even be barely Ethiopian, and that rules out him being noticably black.
However, I agree that it would be pretty cool if Jesus was black. I am certain there would be a different image on blacks than there is now. It would be awesome, even if I'm white. I'm not Christian, so why the hell would I care? Haha. |
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Did you guys hear about the remains of a really old skeleton they found in AFRICA in which everyones DNA is linked to. Anyways thats not surprising to me. I thought middle-eastern people were from the mongoloid race.
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Wait?! What kind of question is that ??
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Jesus is probably everything.
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well, i dont know but, i think that Jesus was dark-skinned. ya know not black people dark but, middle eastern dark.
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QUOTE(~*Crizzy_Babee09*~ @ Mar 29 2005, 1:07 AM) ohh! This is going to be a HOT topic. Well I chose to be Christian. Well my parents are, and their parent's parents. but down tha line wun of my family members practiced witchcraft. but they're dead now. Ehh.. get that away 4rm meeh. i dun believe in dat. Well JC4P, wut religions are ur parents? my dads a jew and my moms a muslim |
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I don't think anyone bases their treatment of other races, (which I think is not specific to only black people, racism comes in all different forms, not just black and white.) on what skin color Jesus was. Probably because NO ONE KNOWS? No one that I know was there when Jesus was anyway. And for all we know, Jesus could have been blue or purple
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Yea, dat's wut I said. Jesus Is Evrythang. But like sum1 said, I ususally take Jesus as a spirit than human form.
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This Pagan says that he was not black but really tanned because he supposodly lived in a hot country so his skin would be naturally tanned
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wait, you are very confusing.
Okay, let me start 1. Middle-eastern isn't white by the way. 2. I don't get how you get he's black from middle-eastern. 3. He was Israeli. 4. I doubt that they have many blacks there. 5. No I am not stating this stuff simply because I'm christian, I'm stating this simply because it just sounds idiotic. Oh and speight, enough with the pagan thing, its really starting to annoy me. This is a topic about Jesus being black, not about a Pagan being really tanned and black. |
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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Apr 1 2005, 8:52 PM) wait, you are very confusing. Okay, let me start 1. Middle-eastern isn't white by the way. 2. I don't get how you get he's black from middle-eastern. 3. He was Israeli. 4. I doubt that they have many blacks there. 5. No I am not stating this stuff simply because I'm christian, I'm stating this simply because it just sounds idiotic. Oh and speight, enough with the pagan thing, its really starting to annoy me. This is a topic about Jesus being black, not about a Pagan being really tanned and black. Whats wrong about a Pagan posting. Youare taking the mindframe of the people in Salem in the 1600s. Its very offensive. I go to a Christian school vecause of my parents and that there are no pagan schools! I get taught RE and thats what we got told |
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No Israeli AKA Palestinian even i know that
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![]() HERE IS the full STORY... ![]() Many people are surprised to discover that Christ was a black man, but when one looks at Christ's lineage one discovers that He has numerous Hamatic Ancestors, with Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Naomi, Bathsheba and Jezabel being the most notable. There is not one place in the New Testament that describes the appearance of Jesus. The picture the world recognizes as Jesus seems to be the same image from the Shroud of Turin, however, the shroud does not show white or colored skin. Can we deduce from His genealogy if there was indeed Hamatic Ancestors? Actually a few colored people in the genealogy does not give any indication of His skin color as many Caucasian people have at least one colored ancestor somewhere in the recent family tree. However, there may be several reasons why the New Testament doesnt say a word about the physical appearance of Jesus. If Jesus were depicted as Caucasian or Colored, would that indicate that one is better than the other? One must be very careful when jumping to assumptions about His appearance, especially when we consider the only physical description given in the Bible of Jesus: Just as there were many who were appalled at Him His appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and His form marred beyond human likeness .He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to Him, nothing in His appearance that we should desire Him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces He was despised, and we esteemed Him not. Isaiah 52:14 - 53:1-3 Many Christians become very defensive when their perception of Jesus as the perfect looking human being is shattered by the above passage. The first comment Ive received in talking about this to other Christians is that this passage in Isaiah must refer to what Jesus looked like after being beaten by the Roman soldiers before and during the crucifixion, not before. However, one must look at Isaiah and read it carefully, no one was going to be attracted to Him by His physical attributes. Today, as in the time of the ministry of Jesus, we come to faith not based on Jesus physical characteristics as the authors dont provide us with any clues other than the great detail of His attributes when He is in a transfigured state on the mountain and a similar description in Revelation, but the authors are silent on His normal everyday appearance. In our world so many popular modern day celebrities become adored and honored because of their physical characteristics. We only need to go to the magazine stand and look at the covers to confirm this human trait of cherishing beauty over accomplishments. If you were to make up a religion, would the Messiah not be the most beautifully attractive person to walk the Earth? The fact that Isaiah indicates otherwise and the New Testament writers leave out any physical description adds to the facts that the Bible is a genuine book based not on human ideas and perceptions but on that of a Creator who does not force Himself on people with all the powers available to Him through creating physical attraction with the Messiah, but does it the hardest way possible, through words and actions. Was Jesus not perfect before His death? We read that He was without sin, but that doesnt mean that He looked perfect. In fact we read that the disciples didnt recognize Him after He was resurrected and could in fact change His form. After that (appearing to Mary Magdalene), He appeared in another form to two of them (disciples) as they walked and went into the country. Mark 16:12 What kind of disfigurement would Jesus have had? Job, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil (Job 1:8) has to suffer from Boils that covered his skin from top to bottom. We can only speculate on what qualities or lack of them Jesus had that would cause men to despise Him because of the way He appeared. In reviewing the Isaiah passage and coming to terms with them I find myself questioning my own feelings on all people I meet. The saying is true Beauty is only skin deep. Would I have shunned Jesus and ignored Him because of the way he looked? Have I shunned others in my life because of the way they looked? Have others done this to me? Can I change my attitude and accept people for who they are and what they can become inside and not for how they look on the outside? Lets learn from this and become more accepting of all people. If Jesus decided to approach you today as he appeared back then how would you react? Will Jesus treat you the way you treat others? |
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There's a good chance Jesus was not white.... i really wonder where that whole Tall, handsome white Jesus with sheep at his feet picture came into play lol...
it says in the bible Jesus was not a superstar, so he could have had buck teeth for all we know! and jesus was a carpenter, not a shepard, so the sheep thing is off too... But i agree with most, it doesn't matter what race Jesus was.... |
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well, if you want to get technical...
Were all black =D |
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nice point and all but since when are people from the middle east black?
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 6:18 PM) Hee hee. just a little humor =] Studies show humans orginated in Africa. [if you didnt fall asleep in history class youd know the oldest human bones found were in Africa.] Anyways, people in Africa were pretty much nomads and went form place to place depending on the food and stuff like that, some went to the shades, which turned their skin light, others stayed in the sun and became even darker in color. and some even went to deserts or snowy lands and squinted so much and thats why asians eyes arent like everyone elses. |
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QUOTE(Miss[x]Tiff @ Apr 1 2005, 3:22 PM) Hee hee. just a little humor =] Studies show humans orginated in Africa. [if you didnt fall asleep in history class youd know the oldest human bones found were in Africa.] Anyways, people in Africa were pretty much nomads and went form place to place depending on the food and stuff like that, some went to the shades, which turned their skin light, others stayed in the sun and became even darker in color. and some even went to deserts or snowy lands and squinted so much and thats why asians eyes arent like everyone elses. OH ya... I say an article about that in National Geographic.. it said they found bones from like, was 2m or 20m years old... I never you knew thats why, ( the eye thing)...thats cool. I wonder if God ever sent Jesus before the jesus we kno of, if we lived a l O N G L O N G Time ago..hmm.. ![]() |
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if your from the middle east it doesnt mean your a "black person" It's just your skin color might be a liddo dark thats all. But for me I dont care what Jesus , he can be white, asian, black, or purple. cuz it doenst matter what race he is..
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 6:48 PM) OH ya... I say an article about that in National Geographic.. it said they found bones from like, was 2m or 20m years old... I never you knew thats why, ( the eye thing)...thats cool. I wonder if God ever sent Jesus before the jesus we kno of, if we lived a l O N G L O N G Time ago..hmm.. ![]() yeah! but it was a female set of bones they named Lucy =] |
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 5:50 PM) ![]() That person better be kidding. But, I can understand that have a "sheltered" mind can cause some ppl to say things that may be inappropriate. Neways, the only reason you haven't seen Jesus as a black man is because historians either refused to accept the possibility of him being black, or it wasn't thought of at the time. But, personally, I think each race or religion chooses what skin color Jesus is. For the most part, Whites wanna believe he's white, blacks wanna believe he's black, etc. etc. But, that's where the problem lies. People become so engrossed with the fact of his skin, that they begin to argue. Here's the real question: Does it matter? In my opinion, no. People can have a variety of opinions, but can still accept others philosiphy. Just because you don't like someone's opinion doesn't mean you can't ACCEPT it as a possibility. |
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 5:50 PM) ![]() He better be joking. I can understand that having a "sheltered" mind can lead to inappropriate messages, if you know what I mean. Ne way, the real question is does it matter what his skin color was? No, it doesn't. All that matters is that he died for our sins (if that is what you personally believe in). Why stress over the fact that he might of been black or white or asian or hispanic? You can go ahead and seem racist like this a-hole that I quote, or you can be happy with your understanding of Jesus and accept the fact that he died for our sins, no matter what his skin color was. |
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lol its possible
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QUOTE: and speight, enough with the pagan thing, its really starting to annoy me. This is a topic about Jesus being black, not about a Pagan being really tanned and black. (END QUOTE)
Yeah I would hav 2 agree. Why aren't u worshipping the computer God? Don't give me a long boring answer because it's a joke. Anyway who cares what colour his skin was? He's Jesus, he loves us all no matter what and we should love him no matter what. |
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 2 2005, 2:47 AM) Of course you havent because that's what everyone thinks. I don't care if jesus is white or not, (im not a christian) its funny i thought race didnt matter to christians, i guess not. |
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QUOTE(wolverine00 @ Apr 1 2005, 8:47 PM) Except for whites who wanna be black. or blacks that wanna be white. ...Is their any documentation that says if hes white or black? Also, I havent seen any Jesus movies, or "picture" things, of him being black?...so, yeah. ![]() Wow. Just wow. I'm not even going to respond to this. I really hope you're below the age of 12. ![]() |
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QUOTE(Shadow_Valkyrie @ Apr 2 2005, 9:14 AM) ![]() ![]() THANK YOU!!! it doesn't really matter what his skin color was. //edit sorry about the double posting. refresh error |
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depends what u believe in... to me there are different jesus's for every religon or people. There cannot be one jesus because the world would all just *plop* fall apart
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