eating shark fins, humane or not? Options

[littlewhite]

i was wondering about this topic, however, i am kinda neutral about shark fins though.

[lilphoenix]

Face it... we're carnivorous.

Sharks eat humans, humans eat shark fins. Eh, what to do?

[iheartjohn]

Why specifically shark fins?

I guess I'm neutral about it. Probably something I wouldn't try when I'm sober.

[smile4me]

i dun get it...why not chickens? or...pig..or...or...

[souldreamers]

^^^ yea.

why wouldn't it be humane? I'd try it.. you know what it tastes like?

[Sumiaki]

^^^ yea.

why wouldn't it be humane?  I'd try it.. you know what it tastes like?

It tastes really good. I <3 Shark Fin Soup.

I guess I get what you're saying. But i don't think it's inhumane. But what about dogs?

[*suddenly she*]

just as long as that shark isn't endangered and if that shark's existence stays stable. in a good way.

but i wouldn't, still.

[*mzkandi*]

shark fin eh? i wouldnt mind trying that

[sadolakced acid]

it's over-hunted...

sharks are caught, their fins cut off, and then the carcasses thrown back in the ocean, to make room for more fins.

it's causing a decline in the shark population.

[*basick*]

its good

[fameONE]

Excuse me for posing the vegetarian argument, but, eating meat period is humane if put into perspective. Animals are bread, slaughtered by the masses and then served up for someone else to eat? That sounds a bit inhuman to me. People make exceptions because as human beings, we generally eat certain types of red and whte meat (steak, chicken, fish, etc) and the fact that humans are atop the food chain is a cause for justification.

Still, if we can survive and grow strong off of fruit and vegetables (and soy, holla!) alone, then why not switch to a more healthy and more human diet? I watched Super Size me and practically vomitted midway through, and I don't have a weak stomach. I'm not going to sit up here and tell everyone carnivore on this forum that they are wrong for not becoming a vegetarian/vegan but do yourself the favor of visiting a slaughterhouse. Then, eat meat shortly thereafter, you'd change your mind.

I believe eating sharkfins is inhumane as well as catching sharks to begin with. So what a shark ate a surfer? The shark was there first, you were in its territory. Ya shouldn't have been there. Tough.

[Spirited Away]

I don't understand... haha, you people who said it's good do know that shark fins are tasteless right? The soup acquires its taste from broth... usually, it's chicken broth.

[fameONE]

I don't understand...  haha, you people who said it's good do know that shark fins are tasteless right? The soup acquires its taste from broth... usually, it's chicken broth.

Chicken Broth Vegetarian style

-water
-dab of vinegar
-salt
-red pepper
-chicken seasoning

[pandamonium]

we are carnivorus and its humane if we eat any animals especially even humans. we eat meant i wouldnt be suprized. there are tribes in fiji or however you spell it that used to eat men. its our nature

[fameONE]

we are carnivorus and its humane if we eat any animals especially even humans. we eat meant i wouldnt be suprized. there are tribes in fiji or however you spell it that used to eat men. its our nature

If we choose to defy our nature and change our ways, then wouldn't our nature then become what we've changed to?

[*basick*]

I don't understand...  haha, you people who said it's good do know that shark fins are tasteless right? The soup acquires its taste from broth... usually, it's chicken broth.

the texure tastes good*

[*wind&fire*]

i see nothing wrong... its cultre... if you want it to stop seek genocide

[fameONE]

i see nothing wrong... its cultre... if you want it to stop seek genocide

Oh, so it's culture for fisherman in Seattle to decide to bait and mutilate sharks? Thats one sick culture. If you're referring to a less advanced tribal society in the micronesian that eats sharks, then I understand. But, if you're referring to Americans, then you should rethink that statement.

[lilnatcat]

Now that u mention it........I think it is tasteless and it requires some thickish soup base................
Sharks fin soup is realli nice, not to mention freakin expensive!! >.<

Mn.....sharks fin is like nothing comapred to what other animals that are eaten.....like yea........dogs....cockroaches..... But why specifically "shark fins"?????

[*wind&fire*]

well we cant live off fruits and vegetables alone and you cant change the ways of 3 billion people .. you do make a good point but they do this for the money,

[fameONE]

well we cant live off fruits and vegetables alone and you cant change the ways of 3 billion people .. you do make a good point but they do this for the money,

Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.

And for all of you Christians unsure of this argument, here's a nice lil' quote for yous.

Isaiah 66:3

He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

[*wind&fire*]

then what do we do with the chickens and cows are we to just release them into the world to roam?

[iheartjohn]

Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.

If no human ate meat, some species of animals would overpopulate the Earth. But that's a whole other debate.

[ItzOnlySydney]

i like my meat, biotch!

i have eaten meat b4 and all you tree hugging flower picking queers and gonna stop me!

thats my dad's favorite saying when ppl say he eats too much meat lol

[*mzkandi*]

Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.

And for all of you Christians unsure of this argument, here's a nice lil' quote for yous.

Isaiah 66:3

He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

thanks for the sermon but man dont go there with the regilious point of view, its just a shark, it doesnt need to get that deep. Though I did find the part about burning incense interesting, i burn incense all the time. And are sharks we are talking about about endangered or something?

[fameONE]

eleeza,Mar 28 2005, 9:44 PM]If no human ate meat, some species of animals would overpopulate the Earth.

As would man. With an abundance of nutrients in our bodies, me and women would become both more fertile and more sterile.

I apologize for being the assumed 'tree-huggin hippie' by posing this argument but allowing certain species of animals to roam the earth isn't something I'm opposed to. I'm much more against the senseless mass murder of steers than I am those same steers walking around the plains of Texas, minding their own business.

With the sermon, I was simply supporting the statement with esoteric that certain people can relate to. See, I don't think it's just a shark. To you, maybe. To me, its a representation of what we've (broad generalization) become as inhumane human beings. So its ok to do such a thing to shark just for fins that, apparently, do taste good?

ItzOnlySydney- Such an insightful response! I'm not saying eating meat is bad or wrong, however, the way in which the meat is obtained is just morally wrong.

[sadolakced acid]

Oh, but we can. Every nutrient found in meat is found in fruits and vegetables.

wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

hehe... technicallity here.

meat has nutrients your body needs that no vegetables or fruits can provide. However, your body makes them themselves.

beware the 'healthy ' vegetarian diet. unless a specific variety of legumes are eaten, vegetarians will lake certain essential amino acids.

[fameONE]

wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

hehe... technicallity here. 

meat has nutrients your body needs that no vegetables or fruits can provide.  However, your body makes them themselves.

beware the 'healthy ' vegetarian diet.  unless a specific variety of legumes are eaten, vegetarians will lake certain essential amino acids.

Which explains the vitamins the doctor recommended. You and your damn technicalities, Acid.

Whats your take, in depth on the shark slaughter?

[iheartjohn]

You do know how sharks obtain their food, right?

[fameONE]

You do know how sharks obtain their food, right?

Yes. Sharks like hammerheads and great whites attack their prey by charging it once or twice then disappearing while the victim bleeds to death. The shark then returns to feed. The bigger the meal, the longer it lasts. A full grown sea lion, for example can last a shark 2-3 months. Discovery Channel will get ya.

[sadolakced acid]

shark hunting needs to be regulated (it already is, but better) like whales were. If a shark is caught, all of it should be used.

the problem with fin hunting is the same problem that happened with tusk hunting and elephants.

however; regulation will not help that much, cultural changes are needed.
many far-eastern cultures eat shark fin soup; however, there are ads in these nations trying to curtail the consumtion of shark-fin.

the reason why sharks cannot be over-hunted is becasue they are an integral part of the food chain. if an overhunting were allowed, it would be akin to removing the wolves from yellowstone.

[aznxdreamer]

Face it... we're carnivorous.

Sharks eat humans, humans eat shark fins. Eh, what to do?

first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.

do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean.. . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.

[fameONE]

first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.

do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean.. . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.

That was an admirable statement but how the hell aren't you a vegetarian if you're against eating animals? So you eat animals but you're against it? So you're a hypocrite? No, wait, let me get myself together. Are you confusing vegetarianism and veganism? Ok, seriously, I'm lost.

[Sumiaki]

Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one. It's natural. I see no reason to feel ashamed or sick. Why should I?

[*wind&fire*]

Hmmm i could go for a thick rare steak right now...

[yellowgurl]

It tastes really good.    I <3 Shark Fin Soup.

I guess I get what you're saying. But i don't think it's inhumane. But what about dogs? 

i dont think its inhumane i mean afterall we eat all sorts of things... chickens, cows, pigs... wouldn't that be inhumane? .. dogs??? we eat dogs?

[mysticbreeze]

Hmmm i could go for a thick rare steak right now...

Don't come into debates just to make dumb little statements to annoy people.

...Anyway I think the killing of sharks to take thier fins is wrong. Like someone stated before, the shark's fin is cut off while the shark is still alive and the rest of the body is thrown back into the ocean. It's cruel and unnecessary.

i dont think its inhumane i mean afterall we eat all sorts of things... chickens, cows, pigs... wouldn't that be inhumane? .. dogs??? we eat dogs? blink.gif

That's inhumane too but this debate is about shark fins.

Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one.

Wow you're sick.

[HongKongDong]

Food is food. Personally, I could eat after being in a slaughterhouse or even while being in one.

Agreed. Food is food,

first of all...sharks do not try to "eat" us. they simply mistake us for sea lions and stuff and when they take a bite and realize you dont taste like sea lion, they'll let you go.

do you know how they get shark fin? the catch a shark..cut off its fins alive and then just throw it back in the ocean..  . im against eating animals even though im not a vegetarian.

Sharks dont eat us thats right. They smell the blood and think of us as food mistaking us for their original prey.

The two sides can quarrell all they want, there will be no real conclusion to come of this. Personally I dont care. Like someone said above, food is food.

[sadolakced acid]

by that logic, whaling should be allowed.

the reason why it's inhumane is because it's depleting the shark population. Some species are endangered. others are soon following.

[Angel_Cece]

Sharks dont eat us thats right. They smell the blood and think of us as food mistaking us for their original prey.

but they still eat us... even if they do mistake us... anyway food is food and everyone has different customs. im west indian and i eat chicken feet and pig feet. its just your culture.

[Pulchritude]

i had shark fin soup before.. i dont really remember what it tasted like... well sharks dont eat us on purpose unless you bother it with it;s territory...but its like us eating chicken, fish,duck, and w/e...

[HongKongDong]

but they still eat us... even if they do mistake us... anyway food is food and everyone has different customs. im west indian and i eat chicken feet and pig feet. its just your culture.

Were not talking about Jaws here or that other Shark movie. Were talking about actual Sharks, once they take a bite out of us and realise we are not what they want they will just let us go.

A lot of animals are highly endangered and there are still cultures out there hungting and eating them. It is cruel how they get the Shark fins, they might as well kill the damn thing and eat the rest of it. If it doesn't have its fin, how the hell is it gonna survive?

[Angel_Cece]

Were not talking about Jaws here or that other Shark movie. Were talking about actual Sharks, once they take a bite out of us and realise we are not what they want they will just let us go.

A lot of animals are highly endangered and there are still cultures out there hungting and eating them. It is cruel how they get the Shark fins, they might as well kill the damn thing and eat the rest of it. If it doesn't have its fin, how the hell is it gonna survive?

don't you think its also cruel to hunt other animals for food? Chickens are almost endangered....

[HongKongDong]

Chickens are almost endagered?

But but, the farms, and the many chicken eggs... oh wait now I remember... but chicken is good... dont think I could ever not eat chicken.

It is cruel, at the same time it is "human nature." Its the way of life, animals hunting other animals, us ourselves as humans are just another breed of animal life. We hunt and eat others to survive as do the rest out there.

[sadolakced acid]

if sharks could be farmed, and only the farmed ones were killed, then it woudl not be inhumane.

[ryfitaDF]

people eat tiger penises. people eat fish eggs. people eat shark fins. big whoop.

[aznxdreamer]

That was an admirable statement but how the hell aren't you a vegetarian if you're against eating animals? So you eat animals but you're against it? So you're a hypocrite? No, wait, let me get myself together. Are you confusing vegetarianism and veganism? Ok, seriously, I'm lost.

if i went vegetarian..i would turn anorexic. im 90 pounds, 14, and 5'8. its for health reasons.

[misoshiru]

its inhumane because what they do is, they kill a shark just for its fin. sometimes, they just cut the fin off, and throw the shark back into the water.


damn...but it tastes good.

[KwanYin]

Chinese said that u will be more beautiful after eating the shark fins.
Do u believe dat?

[*Weird addiction*]

i think its human but i also think eating shark fins is disgusting.

[liloandstitchx3]

IDK. i have no opinion on it right now.

most chinese (or asians?) eat shark fin soup and love it. i am chinese. i love shark fin soup. it is yummy.

[heyyfrankie]

i think that if we can eat cows and pigs, we can eat sharks...

[sadolakced acid]

cows and pigs can be farmed.

sharks cannot.

therefore, shark populations are being depleted by eating them.

cow and pig populations are not.

[tmauze]

eww! But I couldn't tell you right or wrong, even though I don't see anything wrong with it.

[smile4me]

cows and pigs can be farmed.

sharks cannot.

therefore, shark populations are being depleted by eating them.

cow and pig populations are not.

eh..well if thats the case...
i don't think its inhumane.
i DO think, however, that we shouldn't eat it because depleting the population.

[*iNyCxShoRT*]

Well in asian culture there's shark fin soup. I think it's okay i mean you don't want sharks overpopulating the ocean. If Sharks can eat us why not vice versa

[sadolakced acid]

Well in asian culture there's shark fin soup. I think it's okay i mean you don't want sharks overpopulating the ocean. If Sharks can eat us why not vice versa

sharks aren't overpopulating the ocean.

they are about to become endangered (certain species already are.)

the sharks are dying out.

and it will be like the wolves

[*xcaitlinx*]

We shouldn't even discuss this, since humans eat everything that can breath and eat, and it isn't considered to be abnormal.

Cats, cows, dogs, guinea pigs, fish, pigs, snakes, frog legs, fish eyes, etc...the list never ends.

I wouldn't be surprised if humans started eating eachother. (err..meaning that it isn't considered cannibalism [and is a normal occurrence])

[sadolakced acid]

those animals can be farmed.

sharks cannot.

[sammi rules you]

well, i don't really have an opinion, but it can't be humane or inhumane considering it doesn't pertain the misuse or mistreatment of humans..

maybe..sharkane? insharkane?

[XoJennaoX]

were hypocrites....we wouldn't eat dolphin fins right? cuz there all cute and friendly, even though they probably taste better!
but we eat sharks until they become exstinct cuz they're a threat to....umm...surfers?...like the ocean is OUR territory anyway.

Never had shark...never really care to either.

[weirdness]

sure, why not eat sharks.
humans have eaten almost everything else.

i've eaten it. i was forced to
it doesn't taste good
*feels like a hypocrite, because i've eaten it*

[jue]

never had one

[Spirited Away]

never had one

That's not what the topic is about. If it was about whether or not you eat shark fins, the thread would've been closed. Please try to answer the topic question. Thanks.

[fameONE]

were hypocrites....we wouldn't eat dolphin fins right? cuz there all cute and friendly, even though they probably taste better!
but we eat sharks until they become exstinct cuz they're a threat to....umm...surfers?...like the ocean is OUR territory anyway.

Never had shark...never really care to either.

You're so right. It seems like common thought amongst this thread is that eating sharks is ok because; 1) we're carnivorois and 2) sharks are somehow a threat to our existence because they're such aggressive predators.

Maybe its just me, but a lot of people have a hard time seeing the bigger picture. Ok, so a surfer gets her arm chomped off. Thats a tragic fate for her, but, c'mon, who lives the water?

[rOckThISshYt]

If someone wants to eat them, let them eat it. I personally wouldn't want to but, I'm sure to some people, it's not different than eating steak.

[fameONE]

If someone wants to eat them, let them eat it. I personally wouldn't want to but, I'm sure to some people, it's not different than eating steak.

The argument isn't whether or not someone wants to eat them, the argument is whether or not its inhumane... which it clearly is.

[sadolakced acid]

does it matter that if the sharks die, the whole ocean ecosystem will be shot, and all the fish will die, resulting in more hunger and whole economies crashing?

i guess not...

[surfhottieoffcoa...]

japan and iceland

[lAzN YiN YanGl]

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[sadolakced acid]

japan and iceland

ahh... japan and iceland would have the worst depressions ever if the shark population is allowed to be overfished...