Apple Ipod, overpriced brick or good buy? Options

[sadolakced acid]

sure, there are threads in the technology forum about ipods; but none specifically for debating.

so here's the setup:

the apple ipod is the most popular portable music player in the United States. the word ipod has become synonomous with a hard drive device, like xerox because synonymous with copy machine.

However; the ipod was not the first MP3 player. They were not the first Hard drive player. The only thing that the ipod had that others didn't was the scroll wheel.

basically; the ipod was, and still is, priced higher than other similar competitors.

yet is the reason why it dominates is that it is actually a good portable music player, or is it becuase of clever advertising, it's status as a status symbol, and the mass stupidity of many?

[william]

i think it's because of it's clever advertising, status symbol, and the mass stupidity of many. there are other mp3 players that own the ipod, such as the iriver. i actually think the ipod is cliche now, and makes you look less trendy.

...of course, i'm pretty much a hypocrite, seeing as i have one. i got mine the year it came out, so i'm stuck with a two year old generation one ipod that has extremely crappy battery life. all my friends told me i was wasting my money when i got it then, but of course had it on their christmas lists this last year. losers.

[*kryogenix*]

apple is known for their trendy designs. many people find it prettier for some reason. also, apple has more leverage considering they own iTunes.

[Baku]

ipod is yes pricy and it cost a lot but its reliable like if you have insurance on it they do replace it i have gone though 3 in 5 months and they replace it with no cost they are useing thier high name status to sell their products just like windows.. i would trust ipod more then iriver

[sadolakced acid]

and why would you trust ipod more than iriver? this is a debate; please try to use facts.


the iriver h340 costs $400 (list).

the ipod photo 40 gb cost 459.99 (list). add 50 bucks for recording (although still no line in) and 50 bucks for FM tuner, and you have something costing 550 dollars. buy a 30 buck case, and your $ 30charger (which isn't included anymore) and you have something costing a nice 610 bucks.

did i mention the river can play videos?

the iriver also comes with a one year warrenty, and they replace it if something happens.

so why do you trust ipod more than iriver? brand name? iriver tells you that thier battery will run down in about 5 years if you constantly charge and discharge it. Does ipod tell you that ater 3 or so years of mederate use, the battery must be replaced BY THEM? for lots of money? the iriver one can be replaced by anyone. for the cost of the battery.

so why do you trust ipod?

[lakerfever2476]

i think Apple is a reliable brand. Hmm .. you could buy the iPod adaptor.

[kandiapplegrl]

Hmm...iPod is a bit overpriced but they do it because they know we will buy it and they can. Yes, those iPod commercials helped them out along with celebs endorsing their products.

However, in my opinion Apple has always been extremely high look at Macs compared to PCs, but their design is so nice and the quality is good. If I could afford it I would get it. If I was on my last dollar, I go to something less fancy.

A load of crap is overpriced these days, iPod is not an exception. Stop making it out to be so bad.

[heyyfrankie]

i think it is so successful because of advertising, the look of it, the amount of memory, and because of the brand: apple. =/
i don't have one, though.

[kandiapplegrl]

i think it is so successful because of advertising, the look of it, the amount of memory, and because of the brand: apple. =/
i don't have one, though.

You just made a point: it's overpriced because it should be.

[sadolakced acid]

why should it be? the HDD i have cost half as much as the ipod equivalent and is better quality wise.

it uses a more durable chipset and a more durable hard drive, and a better battery.

[*kryogenix*]

A load of crap is overpriced these days, iPod is not an exception. Stop making it out to be so bad.

Then do something about it! We live in a capitalist society, if you know it's overpriced, and there are other options, take them!

[xj_liana_tx]

it's overpriced...
and don't you have to pay to download music also?
well i think it would be much more convenient if you download music for free to your computer and burn cd and just bring a cd player with you.

[william]

it's overpriced...
and don't you have to  pay to download music also?
well i think it would be much more convenient if you download music for free to your computer and burn cd and just bring a cd player with you.

that defeats the whole purpose of having a mp3 player.

[Teesa]

yeah, it's overpriced and then you have to download the songs, and then you can buy other accesories that make it even more expensive..but I must admit it is pretty useful.=)

[kandiapplegrl]

I forgot about only buying fom that Apple iTunes store. Anyhoo, I wouldn't buy an iPod unless I was rich or could afford it or something. I def. go with one I can add my own music, whether I bought it or not.

[sadolakced acid]

you can with the ipod tho.

you can add MP3s with itunes whether or not you bought them.

[william]

yeah, i have around 2,000 songs on my ipod and have never bought anything from the itunes store. i just buy cds or download songs.

[Baku]

wow i think you guys are getting the itunes store really confused haha

you can add your own songs if it is in an mp3 or wav some format of music it can be played

i have 3000+ songs and they are all from my cds haha or i dled from somewehre else you dont have to buy songs off the store to put it on your ipod :-p and the best part about an ipod it servers as a moble hard drive tus you can add files to your ipod and carry them around i think it is work the $$ i mean heck a 40 gig hard driver you can carry in your pocket?

[kandiapplegrl]

yeah, i have around 2,000 songs on my ipod and have never bought anything from the itunes store. i just buy cds or download songs.

Oh ok. Thx for clearing that up.

[william]

and the best part about an ipod it servers as a moble hard drive tus you can add files to your ipod and carry them around i think it is work the $$ i mean heck a 40 gig hard driver you can carry in your pocket?

i'm pretty sure every other mp3 player can also do that. the ipod is nothing special.

[D1SMANTLED]

^^ so true. The only thing special about it is the touch-dial-spinny thing.. (i don't know what to call it.)

[sadolakced acid]

called the 'touch wheel'

i hate it.

my songs aren't in a circle

i like creative's zen touch design much better.

[KissMe2408]

Ok...I think whoever marketed the ipods is a genious. They really knew what they were doing. I have an ipod, but i think it was wayy overpriced for what it's worth. It's good for downloading all your cds onto it, but i mean if you wanna get stuff from the internet, then forget about it. It takes forever to get all your cds and stuff onto the ipod. The most i get out of it is if i'm traveling, and i just put it in my purse or somethan and i don't have to worry about carrying some big book of cds and all. But yes i think it was way overpriced. Also, i think there are much better Mp3 players that cost less. But i mean the ipods were just marketed better. But don't get me wrong, they are pretty cool lol

[*CrackedRearView*]

there are other mp3 players that own the ipod, such as the iriver.

Hey, good call. I have an Iriver H340, and it's, as they say, 'da bomb'.

[sadolakced acid]

nice to see a fellow iriver owner.

i have an H320. =-D.

it ROCKS.

[william]

Hey, good call.  I have an Iriver H340, and it's, as they say, 'da bomb'.

my dad has one also, and i'm trying to get him to switch with me .

[Baku]

i really think its all on option because some people like ipods some like iriver some like others it just all depends on your fancy..

[william]

^ you mean an opinion? if so, that's the point of debating. trying to defend your opinion and make others agree with your point of view.

[ethik dreamer]

I've been comparing iRiver H340 with iPod lately at school because my friend recently got an iRiver. Apparently, I found browsing through my iPod much more convient, rather than pressing buttons and such. Well, I find the iRiver to have more options. Anyway, I got the iPod not of free will, but as a gift, and I never really expected it, but I've grown accustom to it. And then, there's always that reason for buying it just because it's apple, and famous people perfer it (the iPod, I mean). Yeah, anyway, the iPod photo is somewhat like the iRiver H340 except without recording and fm. also, I heard the iRiver, and it's just up to parr with the normal 4th generation iPod. Another thing I didn't like about the iRiver was its fat design. I liked how simple the iPod was, and how it could smoothly fit into my pocket. I got annoyed by how the menus and such were set up at the iRiver, because I hated the colors being used. I liked the white rather than the black, because it showed a more...mature look.
I really don't care if my iPod can show pictures or not, because I only mainly use it for Aural pleasure. I mean, if you want the most out of your money simply because you don't want to spend a lot, go for the iRiver. If you want to look like you're worth a whole lot, and you can easily spend whatever you like, get the iPod. If you get either an iPod or an iRiver as a present, and you don't like it, don't be a bitch about it, because atleast you didn't pay for it.

Oh yeah, NOT every mp3 player can act as a hard drive. Most can only store mp3s and such.

[Baku]

and why would you trust ipod more than iriver? this is a debate; please try to use facts.
the iriver h340 costs $400 (list).

the ipod photo 40 gb cost 459.99 (list).  add 50 bucks for recording (although still no line in) and 50 bucks for FM tuner, and you have something costing 550 dollars.  buy a 30 buck case, and your $ 30charger (which isn't included anymore) and you have something costing a nice 610 bucks.

did i mention the river can play videos?

the iriver also comes with a one year warrenty, and they replace it if something happens.

so why do you trust ipod more than iriver?  brand name?  iriver tells you that thier battery will run down in about 5 years if you constantly charge and discharge it.  Does ipod tell you that ater 3 or so years of mederate use, the battery must be replaced BY THEM?  for lots of money? the iriver one can be replaced by anyone. for the cost of the battery. 

so why do you trust ipod?

dare to compare?
http://www.dealtime.com/xSBS-MP3_and_Digit...510981-22394225

[sadolakced acid]

maybe you should look at that a bit.

FM Stereo Tuner • Voice Recorder

to get that on the ipod you need extra accessories.

but stilll; that's not saying anything i don't know. I know the iriver is better than the ipod. it has all the features the ipod has (this site didn't list them all)

of course, that still doesn't explain why you trust ipod more.

[f4113n]

its only popular for all its clever advertising. there are many more MP3s that have more memory, are smaller/lighter, and cost less but probly cuz the ipod is from apple, the 2nd biggest computer company in the world (something like that) so people trust it and become suckers to all the fancy advertising. then again, some people like ipods for the design, free engraving, earbuds and big screen.

[Brneydgrl]

I only got my ipod because i had to buy a mac. I used to be a graphic designer. the deal i got when i bought my mac is that they would throw in an iPod along with a $200 dollar rebate, so technically i got my ipod for 80 bucks.


still expensive, i know, but now that i have it, i'm glad i do, it's nice not to have to switch cds

BUT

ppl around my graphic design school are really 'artsy', and carry it as a status symbol. some graphic designers do use it to transfer files, but as a graphic designer, i could tell you the campaign was wonderfully done. they really sold this item to ppl

[sweetxsimplicity]

Overpriced.
Anything Apple is $$$
You can get almost double the gigabytes of the Apple iPod for $280-$300, and it looks nicer. (:

[c0oki3_m0n$tah]

it's expensive, and i personally think its overpriced, but that doesn't stop me from wanting one..lol

[xXYouMeBedNowXx]

I'd say it's just plain mob psychology.

[D4rkf4m3]

If I can improve my grades by may my aunt is getting me a Mini iPod....and then my cousin is planning to get me a 20gb iPod for $200 :D cheeyeah $100 discount

[william]

If I can improve my grades by may my aunt is getting me a Mini iPod....and then my cousin is planning to get me a 20gb iPod for $200 :D cheeyeah $100 discount

...this is a debate on the ipod, not whether or not you're getting one.