Creation or Evolution?, Which do you believe in? Options

[visualfusion]

I believe both theories of creation and evolution is extremely faulty because of the lack of evidence and the constant rebuttles between the two sides.

What do you think?

[*CEP*]

Rebuttles.

I go for Evolution. Only because most of the board's probably going for creation.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[waccoon]

http://library.thinkquest.org/29178/origlife.htm

[DisneyPrincessKa...]

I think that God just took a huge hand in evolution. If he had told the people who had written the Bible about evolution they never would have believed, so he told them about Adam and Eve. That's what I believe.

[annchovie]

i believe in god's creation. but i also believe in evolution. meaning like he created us (as humans not primates), but other things, like bugs or animals or reptiles, evolved.

[*krnxswat*]

Creation.

[kevinma03]

*RELIGION ALERT RELIGION ALERT*

This is gonna turn into another religious debate. Just like the politics thread and the abortion thread and that other thread... forgot the topic.

[hybrid]

why forget the topic? Why can't people learn some debating crafts in this forum?

Anyway, I say creation. Just because I don't the whole evolution thing..

[CloudUnionX]

Someone find me proof of either one.

[bluecrystals]

i don't know what to believe in.

[wayne]

creation

[*Kathleen*]

Rebuttles.

I go for Evolution. Only because most of the board's probably going for creation.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

I voted for evolution! Proof? We're 98% related to monkeys! Isn't that enough for you? We're not that close in DNA to any other animal. Besides, the Bible says that the Earth is only so many thousands of years old, but scientists who study the Earth estimate that it's about 4 billion+...how can that be? Heh...well, I'm an aheist, so yeah...that's just what I think about it...I don't really want to argue...

[waccoon]

I voted for evolution! Proof? We're 98% related to monkeys! Isn't that enough for you? We're not that close in DNA to any other animal. Besides, the Bible says that the Earth is only so many thousands of years old, but scientists who study the Earth estimate that it's about 4 billion+...how can that be? Heh...well, I'm an aheist, so yeah...that's just what I think about it...I don't really want to argue...

good point - if it's thousands of years old - is god lying to us?

[hybrid]

We're 98% related to monkeys! Isn't that enough for you? We're not that close in DNA to any other animal.

I think I know some with real monkey DNA.

[*CEP*]

good point - if it's thousands of years old - is god lying to us?

Is God even there to lie to us?
[ insert shocked/OMG/WTF face here ]

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[kevinma03]

I believe in evolution. The current evidence points towards evolution rather than creationism.

[*Kathleen*]

Yeah, honestly, is there even slight proof that "God" created us? There's already proof that we're closely related to monkeys, so...

[AmesBond]

Evolution seems to have most scientific logic behind it whereas Creation is just a whole bunch of religious people yelling at me that God made everything and when I ask them why they tell me the Bible tells them so. Well, where's the reference page for that?

[waccoon]

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6604

[xislandxstylex]

i believe that God created us. You don't need proof. just faith

[*Kathleen*]

Yes, this is similar to that other thread waccoon posted above.

[stryker76]

Well....i have my own beleifs.....no nothing with god...i personally do not believe that one super being made me from a pile of dirt and some girl from my rib...um no ill pass on that thanx...but i do believe that the Universe is much older then we think it may be...I believe that at one time there was a planet out there some place in the universe that exploded or was destroyed or something....its remains then eventually got to earth.....now it has been proven that life and sustain it self in zero gravity and zero oxygen...although only microscopic in size.....but that is where evolution takes it turn....once a part of another plant reachs earth....it can grow and evolve to its new environment.....over time evolving into what we have now......Now for those of you that are not imaginative.....that is only a possiblity....but i have watched a show on the theory of evolution and how it all may have started....yes i have no life out side of my computer and football season...but ne ways.....with the right mixture of base elements found in the atmosphere we still live in today you can make life.....all you need to add is a source of energy....once again it is all around us....and a constant on the earth's surface.....Lightening.....Lightening created our Ozone layer that protects us today from UV radiation from the Sun.....back on track....Some scientist took what was the original elements found in the earths atmosphere and placed them in a air-tight glass globe....also goin into the globe was 2 electric probes.....they sent a charge causeing a spark every 10 mins or soo for so many days.....after opening the globe....scientist studied the carbon left from the electric sparks....now all life is carbon based....after studies the scientist found that simple single celled organisms had developed in the arit tigh globe....the same globe that was only filled with elements and no live matter.....so in conclusion it proved that evolution is much more tangable then Religious....journalism as i call it....so yeah i believe in what is tangable and can be proven.....not "Faith"

[stryker76]

hmmmm pretty smart for not doin homework huh....hahahaha

[*Kathleen*]

Well....i have my own beleifs.....no nothing with god...i personally do not believe that one super being made me from a pile of dirt and some girl from my rib...um no ill pass on that thanx...but i do believe that the Universe is much older then we think it may be...I believe that at one time there was a planet out there some place in the universe that exploded or was destroyed or something....its remains then eventually got to earth.....now it has been proven that life and sustain it self in zero gravity and zero oxygen...although only microscopic in size.....but that is where evolution takes it turn....once a part of another plant reachs earth....it can grow and evolve to its new environment.....over time evolving into what we have now......Now for those of you that are not imaginative.....that is only a possiblity....but i have watched a show on the theory of evolution and how it all may have started....yes i have no life out side of my computer and football season...but ne ways.....with the right mixture of base elements found in the atmosphere we still live in today you can make life.....all you need to add is a source of energy....once again it is all around us....and a constant on the earth's surface.....Lightening.....Lightening created our Ozone layer that protects us today from UV radiation from the Sun.....back on track....Some scientist took what was the original elements found in the earths atmosphere and placed them in a air-tight glass globe....also goin into the globe was 2 electric probes.....they sent a charge causeing a spark every 10 mins or soo for so many days.....after opening the globe....scientist studied the carbon left from the electric sparks....no all life is carbon based....after studies the scientist found that simple single celled organisms had developed in the arit tigh globe....the same globe that was only filled with elements and no live matter.....so in conclusion it proved that evolution is much more tangable then Religious....journalism as i call it....so yeah i believe in what is tangable and can be proven.....not "Faith"

Thank you! Yeah, I know we learned that in biology, but I was too lazy to post the whole thing. Hehe thanks, stryker!

[stryker76]

ummm i didnt learn it in Bio...i actually got detention for showin my teacher up after teachin it to the class well the teacher left the room.....i love doin it

[stryker76]

This soooo needs to be read....jeez ppl just ignore it grrrrrr

[*Kathleen*]

Haha I'm reading it, if that counts. I don't know if you posted or not, but there's another thread around here quite similar to this...

[justin_park85]

xislandxstylex<--- agree... God has created us, you don't need to proof it, but you can share the good news...haha

[pinkcowinzq1290]

ya i do believe that God created us, but i also believe that he had to have created other animals (including monkies and apes, things like that) it says in the Bible that God created animals first before he created man. I still believe that God created us though.

[stryker76]

Hmmmm for those of you that are ignorant to believe in an all powerful super being need to be smacked im think bout it....how can someone be everywhere all the time....how can someone make a man out of dirt and a woman out of a rib....that he took from the man....he cant....and if there is an all powerful being what is the soruce of his power....everything has a power source...what is his.....

[kevinma03]

Hmmmm for those of you that are ignorant to believe in an all powerful super being need to be smacked im think bout it....how can someone be everywhere all the time....how can someone make a man out of dirt and a woman out of a rib....that he took from the man....he cant....and if there is an all powerful being what is the soruce of his power....everything has a power source...what is his.....

thats not a really good argument. He can do all those things because he is all powerful. He doesn't need a source of power because he IS the source.

im atheist but im just telling you what any christian would say.

[Dmasta05]

ummmmm.......ya i totally agree with stryker because Darwin kinda proved it when he went to the galapagos islands! didn't he? If you trace the bone structure of primates and humans you will find out that back when the first neanderthal's were here they werre the same.....evulution vs. crreation i mean it's a pretty good argument but who cares as long as we know that some how, some way we all got here....whether it was by GOD or by evolution....i mean you have to admit it's inda crazy to think that people came from DIRT AND A RIB!!! that's like something on the outer limits....i think we should just put an end to this whole debate because everyone can think what they want!!!

[dani41790]

i vote for creation.

[immersion31]

i could care less, too laid back

[xsnowxangelx425]

creation.. things do evolve but we didnt evolve from monkeys or fish or anything like that..

[iloveyou07]

I believe in creation. And faith is not about facts and logic, its about believing in the unseen. We werent around back then and if you were, you would say that God created us, and everything in this world. I dont need proof to know the truth, thats where faith comes in. It says in God's Word that He created us and thats all the proof I need and will ever need. People didnt write the bible, God did.

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!

[iloveyou07]

CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!

AMEN!!!

[tomorrow_nvr_com...]

thank you sista nina...lol...hehe.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

I guess I believe in both of them kinda=\ not really sure though. i'm more on the evolution side

[foreveranoutkast]

I think we owe this big ole world to my big man in the sky god. Give me proof that he didn't and not the old we look like monnkey crap because frankly me dear it's getting old

[thedilenquent]

omg @ yo big words. ok honestly i dont know anything about how the earth was made i belive partially in the big bang theory and i also believe in god to the fullest because i was brought up with that religion. as for evolution i dunno. science gives us reason to believe diffent things so i honestly dont know what i believe

[kayemin]

i believe in god's creation. but i also believe in evolution. meaning like he created us (as humans not primates), but other things, like bugs or animals or reptiles, evolved.

So you think anything and everything other than Human Beings can evolve???

[kayemin]

creation.. things do evolve but we didnt evolve from monkeys or fish or anything like that..

That is a HUGE misconception when it comes to EVOLUTION...

If we had evolved from fish, there would be no fish in the sea left..

If we evolved from monkies, there would be no monkies left in the wild

[stryker76]

I believe in creation. And faith is not about facts and logic, its about believing in the unseen. We werent around back then and if you were, you would say that God created us, and everything in this world. I dont need proof to know the truth, thats where faith comes in. It says in God's Word that He created us and thats all the proof I need and will ever need. People didnt write the bible, God did.

EERRRRRRR Wrong........The bible was not written by god....nobody knows who wrote the bible.....it was written in a dream of someone and god told them what to put in the bible.......the only thing good wrote was the 10 commandments....if there is a such thing.....

[xislandxstylex]

I believe in creation. And faith is not about facts and logic, its about believing in the unseen. We werent around back then and if you were, you would say that God created us, and everything in this world. I dont need proof to know the truth, thats where faith comes in. It says in God's Word that He created us and thats all the proof I need and will ever need. People didnt write the bible, God did.

CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!

yes!!! it's all about faith!

[stryker76]

I think we owe this big ole world to my big man in the sky god. Give me proof that he didn't and not the old we look like monnkey crap because frankly me dear it's getting old

Ummmm have you ever gone to a museum....seen dinosaur bones/fossils...yes we all have.....Well according to the bible....the earth would be only roughly about 10-20 thousand years old.....well sorry it aint....carbon dating has proved all that...the earth is millions of years old......and we learn for a very young age that dinosaurs where around MILLIONS of years ago....so if there where no dinosaurs then what happen someone is planting giant bone skeletons in the middle of nowhere......also how can ppl say they believe in part evolution and part creation...that is ignorant....people evolve all the time....but wee see it as permanent adaption.....like how now many young children...dont have to get certian vaccinations because that are born with the antibodies they got from there parents....evolution before our eyes....hmmmm interestin huh.....its amazing how ignorant some ppl can be...beliefing in one thing that totally contridicts the other belief of theres......Ignorance is Bliss

[stryker76]

CREATION.... I believe that we have one true almighty creator. The Lord my God, he made us, the animals, the stars,a dn he loves every single one of us even when if we dont love him back...he is always there for us and always will be...that is what I believe and NOTHING will ever change that...because, although, I may not be able to prove it scientifically, I can prove to myself it is true, I have seen his miracles, fealt his touch, heard of his creation, and hold his love in my heart....he is MY GOD!!!!

........hmmmm well sorry no god is not there for us after we sin....jesus is...he forgives you for your sins......god...created the 10 commandments....he said that if we didnt follow the commandments we would go to hell....well jesus saw this and died for all those that have sined......Jesus forgives you not God.....god would send you to hell if it wasnt for jesus...and ya kno what the bad part is.....according to the bible...satan gives you the chance to redem your self with Jesus because you cant with god.....god doesnt give you a second chance.....Jesus does.....so yeah get your religon straight before hand...i have read the bible.....to a certian extent....so i kno most my stuff.....i still choice to not follow..practice...or embrace ne religion...until the day it is proven tru to me...that there is a higher being...and yes i kno....ignorance will win ad ppl with still say its all about faith.....well you hear about a lot of things that you may not now but you still may say no its a lie....but can you....religious ppl have faith meaning they will except a lie.....so how can you have faith for only religion and say you have faith....when you have faith you have faith in everything.....meaning even a lie....hmmm interesting..

[stryker76]

hmmm wow...either im right or nobodsy has nething to debet bout...im really not tryin to piss ppl off...im tryin to get ppl to make sence of what they say..

[Dmasta05]

lolololololo hahahahahah WORD HOMIE I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!

[stryker76]

Darn it sux now body wants to stand up for there beliefs

[kevinma03]

........hmmmm well sorry no god is not there for us after we sin....jesus is...he forgives you for your sins......god...created the 10 commandments....he said that if we didnt follow the commandments we would go to hell....well jesus saw this and died for all those that have sined......Jesus forgives you not God.....god would send you to hell if it wasnt for jesus...and ya kno what the bad part is.....according to the bible...satan gives you the chance to redem your self with Jesus because you cant with god.....god doesnt give you a second chance.....Jesus does.....so yeah get your religon straight before hand...i have read the bible.....to a certian extent....so i kno most my stuff.....i still choice to not follow..practice...or embrace ne religion...until the day it is proven tru to me...that there is a higher being...and yes i kno....ignorance will win ad ppl with still say its all about faith.....well you hear about a lot of things that you may not now but you still may say no its a lie....but can you....religious ppl have faith meaning they will except a lie.....so how can you have faith for only religion and say you have faith....when you have faith you have faith in everything.....meaning even a lie....hmmm interesting..

Ok most of that is completely wrong. You obviously have not read the Bible to any meaningful extent, nor have you researched theology, especialy Christianity and its principles. I dont even know why im defending the christians but nobody else seems to be doing it. Ok Jesus IS God. He is God on Earth. Man can not live free from sin. It is in his nature. And because God is perfect, Man cannot be exposed to God while having sinned. In God's laws, if you have sinned, you will go to Hell. But since he is all forgiving and merciful, he sends down his son to die for everyones sins. SO if you believe that jesus has died for your sins then your sins will be cleansed.

When people have faith, they have faith in the fact that its NOT a lie. Do you have faith in gravity? You know scientists till this day can not prove gravity exists. Yet you still believe in it. Why?

[blah3868]

i realli dunno

[stryker76]

When people have faith, they have faith in the fact that its NOT a lie. Do you have faith in gravity? You know scientists till this day can not prove gravity exists. Yet you still believe in it. Why?

Ummmm wrong.....gravity is proven....read Hyperspace by Michio Kaku.....Gravity can be proven mathmaticly.....also it can be felt and seen....so i dont have to have faith in it...because i can feel it when i work out.....the only place where gravity cant be shown mathmaticly is when placing it in an equation for Unity.....if there was a unifying theory for the universe...then everything could be proven wrong or right.....and if you want to get down to it.....there have been studies that show that "god" may be nothing but a voice in the 10th dimension...yes there are alternate dimensions...13 so far discovered....but that is a different topic.....if there is a god he is superficial.....and if he is in the 10th dimension....we cant see him because as 3 dimensional creatures we can not perseve nething that exsist in a higher dimension...only lower.......for example....a 2 dimensional creature would see a ball as a dot that grows then strinks as it pass threw the 2 dimensional plan.....so if there is a god....prove it then ill believe....hmmmmmm faith...i dont like the idea of it.....the idea that there is a more powerful being in control of everything that happens in my life...that i have no control over the out come of my life.....that sounds like slavery.....and if you want more on that....watch the matrix.....based on the same ideas.....just replace the machines with "god"...... oh and jesus is the son of god.....not god him self....i do kno that much.....and no i didnt study theology...im in a public school it would illegal.....Thank doG

[kevinma03]

Ummmm wrong.....gravity is proven....read Hyperspace by Michio Kaku.....Gravity can be proven mathmaticly.....also it can be felt and seen....so i dont have to have faith in it...because i can feel it when i work out.....the only place where gravity cant be shown mathmaticly is when placing it in an equation for Unity.....if there was a unifying theory for the universe...then everything could be proven wrong or right.....and if you want to get down to it.....there have been studies that show that "god" may be nothing but a voice in the 10th dimension...yes there are alternate dimensions...13 so far discovered....but that is a different topic.....if there is a god he is superficial.....and if he is in the 10th dimension....we cant see him because as 3 dimensional creatures we can not perseve nething that exsist in a higher dimension...only lower.......for example....a 2 dimensional creature would see a ball as a dot that grows then strinks as it pass threw the 2 dimensional plan.....so if there is a god....prove it then ill believe....hmmmmmm faith...i dont like the idea of it.....the idea that there is a more powerful being in control of everything that happens in my life...that i have no control over the out come of my life.....that sounds like slavery.....and if you want more on that....watch the matrix.....based on the same ideas.....just replace the machines with "god"...... oh and jesus is the son of god.....not god him self....i do kno that much.....and no i didnt study theology...im in a public school it would illegal.....Thank doG

ok, im not too clear. But im pretty sure Christians consider the 'son of God' as part of God. Its a very complicated idea, but technically hes still God. And i went to a public school also but I still made sure i understood enough about a religion before i start talking about it.

[Winter]

I don't really care. It takes too much time to think about stuff like this coz they're both kinda right.

[*CEP*]

oh and jesus is the son of god.....not god him self....i do kno that much.....and no i didnt study theology...im in a public school it would illegal.....Thank doG

Yeah, see, when you spend 6 years of your early life in a Catholic school, you get to learn things that Jesus is God. If you read the bible like you said you did, you would know that.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[Mireh]

I'm really caught in between...I'm a christian, and I believe in god, but the do have scientific facts about evolution...

[stryker76]

Yeah, see, when you spend 6 years of your early life in a Catholic school, you get to learn things that Jesus is God. If you read the bible like you said you did, you would know that.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

Never said i read the bible......i dont believe in propaganda......but i have read parts unforunately....and for what i did read..it said he was create by "god"....thus the son of "god" or a creation of his.....hmmmm sounds kinda twisted....a creation.....

[kevinma03]

Never said i read the bible......i dont believe in propaganda......but i have read parts unforunately....and for what i did read..it said he was create by "god"....thus the son of "god" or a creation of his.....hmmmm sounds kinda twisted....a creation.....

i dont think jesus was created by god. atleast not literally. from what i know, the 'son of god' has always been with god.

[stryker76]

he could have always been with god...unless he wasnt born to mary and joseph

[*krnxswat*]

The ones who believe in the existence of God, especially Christians, have written many long books, short articles, and everything else in between trying to prove God's existence to the doubters. They have used examples from nature; they have constructed logical arguments using scientific facts and theories and philosophical considerations. The nonbelievers have also written many books and articles trying to show that God does not exist. The believers remain believers; the doubters remain doubters. Usually, nothing much is gained for either side by these arguments.

something my friend wrote.

[iloveyou07]

EERRRRRRR Wrong........The bible was not written by god....nobody knows who wrote the bible.....it was written in a dream of someone and god told them what to put in the bible.......the only thing good wrote was the 10 commandments....if there is a such thing.....

No!!! God wrote the bible. Other people put words down on paper BUT God wrote it!!! He told them what to write!!!

[*krnxswat*]

No!!! God wrote the bible. Other people put words down on paper BUT God wrote it!!! He told them what to write!!!

His disciples wrote the bible; God did not tell them what to write in the bible. His disciples recorded as they were following Him.

[*CEP*]

No!!!  God wrote the bible.  Other people put words down on paper BUT God wrote it!!!  He told them what to write!!!

Well, if other people wrote it, then arent THEY the writers?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[euroFUSION]

Evolution. It just makes more sense to me, but both sides have its explainations.

However, my friend is a Christian, and she believes in evolution.

[kevinma03]

Well, if other people wrote it, then arent THEY the writers?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

the "writer" might be the people. but the "author" is God.

[k00alah]

creation.. mos def

[Jonathank91]

both,i dont no what to choose

[stryker76]

Ok nobody knows who wrote the bible....they still dont kno to this day....but it wasnt god...and for those that say:

No!!! God wrote the bible. Other people put words down on paper BUT God wrote it!!! He told them what to write!!!

Your wrong and not thinking...he thought of the bible and told someone else what to write.....if he wrote it...i dont think we would be able to touch....it would be perfect.....but then again we are tought growing up that nobody is perfect....y would god be ne different....how do you kno that him giving us free will wasnt a mistake.....maybe he is in denial and just cant admit his screw ups......

[cutielilsuga]

in between

[*Kathleen*]

But still...in a way, doesn't the Bible contradict itself that Jesus is the son of God and yet God as well?

[*CEP*]

the "writer" might be the people. but the "author" is God.

Whoa, that confused me.
I thought authors and writers were one and the same.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[oOyunieOo]

ok first thing:


1. Did you know that orignally scientists claimed that the earth was about 100 million years old. Now they say that it is 65 billion years old so it will fit in their "explanation".

2. How can something come from nothing in the big bang? The big bang defies the laws of thermodynamics.

3. All of you people that have taken biology-----> evolutionists say that the simplerer life came first right? well, the simplest life there is, is a one-cell parasite. how could they survive initially without some other life?

4. All of the fossil finds that men have found of "missing links" have been largely made up. In fact, the one named Lucy's bones were found 2 miles apart with 200 feet depth separation. how could they belong to one organism.

5. The geologic time scale can not be found layer ofr layer in any part of the wolrd. The grand Canyon itself is missing about 150 milliong years.

6. There have been fossil finds of fish on Mt. Everest> explain that unless there wasn't a worldwide flood. Water dsplaces and finds its own level, so the only way for a fish to make it to the top of a mountian is for a wolrd-wide flood to occur.

I'm definitely for creation.

[hyunjin90]

ok first thing:


1.  Did you know that orignally scientists claimed that the earth was about 100 million years old.  Now they say that it is 65 billion years old so it will fit in their "explanation".

2.  How can something come from nothing in the big bang?  The big bang defies the laws of thermodynamics.

3.  All of you people that have taken biology-----> evolutionists say that the simplerer life came first right?  well, the simplest life there is, is a one-cell parasite.  how could they survive initially without some other life?

4.  All of the fossil finds that men have found of "missing links" have been largely made up.  In fact, the one named Lucy's bones were found 2 miles apart with 200 feet depth separation.  how could they belong to one organism.

5.  The geologic time scale can not be found layer ofr layer in any part of the wolrd.  The grand Canyon itself is missing about 150 milliong years.

6.  There have been fossil finds of fish on Mt. Everest> explain that unless there wasn't a worldwide flood.  Water dsplaces and finds its own level, so the only way for a fish to make it to the top of a mountian is for a wolrd-wide flood to occur.

I'm definitely for creation.

I agree with you completely.

Also...
I was looking thorugh some creation magazines and stuff like that and I have found lots of intresting information that you might want to know but since everything that has to do with creation outsmarting evolution intrest me, I doubt that you might want to look through all the articles so I'll just post some of the more intresting ones.
How Neptune defies the theory of evolution:
Neptune Page 1
Neptune page 2
Neptune page 3
Sorry if the articles are blurry...I had to use my old scanner.
Oh...and also for those of you who don't know (everyone should already know this) if you're using Internet Explorer it resizes the image to fit your screen. All you have to do to see it properly is to hover your mouse on the bottom-right of the image until the resizer thing appears and click on it. lol, shame on you for those of you who didn't know this!

Ok.... Heres another one if you're intrested...
Ostrich Egg breaks Dino to Bird Theory: Page1
Ostrich page 2

Yes... I know I'm crazy to be looking at magazines and studying stuff like this for fun but oh well... I least I have some solid ground on what to believe and not.

I also have bible verses and thigs which I took notes on that tells about evolution and stuff so I'll post those up too as soon as I find them.

[kevinma03]

I agree with you completely.

Also...
I was looking thorugh some creation magazines and stuff like that and I have found lots of intresting information that you might want to know but since everything that has to do with creation outsmarting evolution intrest me, I doubt that you might want to look through all the articles so I'll just post some of the more intresting ones.
How Neptune defies the theory of evolution:  Page 1

Neptune page 2
Neptune page 3
Sorry if the articles are blurry...I had to use my old scanner.
Oh...and also for those of you who don't know (everyone should already know this) if you're using Internet Explorer it resizes the image to fit your screen.  All you have to do to see it properly is to hover your mouse on the bottom-right of the image until the resizer thing appears and click on it. lol, shame on you for those of you who didn't know this!

Ok.... Heres another one if you're intrested...
Ostrich Egg breaks Dino to Bird Theory: Page1
Ostrich page 2

Yes... I know I'm crazy to be looking at magazines and studying stuff like this for fun but oh well... I least I have some solid ground on what to believe and not.

I also have bible verses and thigs which I took notes on that tells about evolution and stuff so I'll post those up too as soon as I find them.

It's easy to find little contradiction to evolution. But unless there is overwhelming evidence, IE every gas giant shows same traits as neptune etcetc, evolution still stands as the most plausible theory.

Some people still believe the Earth is flat and they have "evidence" to back up their claims. Do you believe the world is flat?

[hyunjin90]

i messed up on this post.... nooo... anyways look at the one below cuz this post the urls don't work for some reason.

[hyunjin90]

I agree with you completely.

Also...
I was looking thorugh some creation magazines and stuff like that and I have found lots of intresting information that you might want to know but since everything that has to do with creation outsmarting evolution intrest me, I doubt that you might want to look through all the articles so I'll just post some of the more intresting ones.
How Neptune defies the theory of evolution:
Neptune Page 1
Neptune page 2
Neptune page 3
Sorry if the articles are blurry...I had to use my old scanner.
Oh...and also for those of you who don't know (everyone should already know this) if you're using Internet Explorer it resizes the image to fit your screen.  All you have to do to see it properly is to hover your mouse on the bottom-right of the image until the resizer thing appears and click on it. lol, shame on you for those of you who didn't know this!

Ok.... Heres another one if you're intrested...
Ostrich Egg breaks Dino to Bird Theory: Page1
Ostrich page 2

Yes... I know I'm crazy to be looking at magazines and studying stuff like this for fun but oh well... I least I have some solid ground on what to believe and not.

I also have bible verses and thigs which I took notes on that tells about evolution and stuff so I'll post those up too as soon as I find them.

ok... I finally found the notes... It isn't much but it tells you who came up with the idea of evolution. Some of you may believe it was charles darwin but i say not. It was the Phonecians who came up with the theory of evolution.
Look at my notes if you don't understand what I mean...
Notes: Look at the Phonecians
Sorry for my handwriting. Its just notes.

[visualfusion]

ok... I finally found the notes... It isn't much but it tells you who came up with the idea of evolution. Some of you may believe it was charles darwin but i say not. It was the Phonecians who came up with the theory of evolution.
Look at my notes if you don't understand what I mean...
Notes: Look at the Phonecians
Sorry for my handwriting. Its just notes.

Well, Charles Darwin is the first one to officially publish a "modern" work about it.

[machinoman]

I wish it were creation, but most likely its evolution.

[stryker76]

ok first thing:


1. Did you know that orignally scientists claimed that the earth was about 100 million years old. Now they say that it is 65 billion years old so it will fit in their "explanation".

2. How can something come from nothing in the big bang? The big bang defies the laws of thermodynamics.

3. All of you people that have taken biology-----> evolutionists say that the simplerer life came first right? well, the simplest life there is, is a one-cell parasite. how could they survive initially without some other life?

4. All of the fossil finds that men have found of "missing links" have been largely made up. In fact, the one named Lucy's bones were found 2 miles apart with 200 feet depth separation. how could they belong to one organism.

5. The geologic time scale can not be found layer ofr layer in any part of the wolrd. The grand Canyon itself is missing about 150 milliong years.

6. There have been fossil finds of fish on Mt. Everest> explain that unless there wasn't a worldwide flood. Water dsplaces and finds its own level, so the only way for a fish to make it to the top of a mountian is for a wolrd-wide flood to occur.

I'm definitely for creation.

1) yeah that all fits..

2) Thermodynamics has nothing to do with the big bang...its all gravity

3)If you have taken Biology you would have learned bout the experiment that showed how life can come from basic elements

4)Fossil Prints of one plant where foun in South America....and the other part of the print was found in Africa...this is what proved Plate Tectonics...the moving of the Earths Crust

5)Layers are missing due to Erosion and other Weathering elements....all take into consideration...the Ice Ages...yes there have been many...

6)Fish Fossil on Mt. Everest prove that the Earths crust is always moving upwards...if you where to ever follow it...you can see the Mt. Everest and K2 are always switchin off as tallest in the world...they are still growing....if you watch a video of the earths surface changing over the last couple Billion years you would see that the Himialayas is a relativly New mountian Range that just has a fast rate of growth....

[*krnxswat*]

I wish it were creation, but most likely its evolution.

And why is that?

[machinoman]

because i dont want to die and be gone forever

[*krnxswat*]

because i dont want to die and be gone forever

Sorry; I should have been more clear. The question I asked was based on this:

"but most likely its evolution. "

[machinoman]

because i don't beleive in magical creatures whom create anything at all. and where would He come from anywayz?

[LatinaLady]

*RELIGION ALERT RELIGION ALERT*

This is gonna turn into another religious debate. Just like the politics thread and the abortion thread and that other thread... forgot the topic.

let people just speak thier mind. its cool to hear in this case read about what others think. and i think i belive in evolution. i am into beliveing in god/ jesus i belive in them, but i question it when it comes to creating the world, for me its like my parents telling me that money grows on trees.

[m@dcow]

i highly doubt creation will happen... a new species just popping up from the ground....

evolution will take place, according to some scientists, humans will increase our intelligence, fix our faults, and make ourselves more appealing with machinery... not only that.. but machinery will soon grow with us... we will be machines!!... muaha.

[oOyunieOo]

ok first thing:


1. Did you know that orignally scientists claimed that the earth was about 100 million years old. Now they say that it is 65 billion years old so it will fit in their "explanation".

2. How can something come from nothing in the big bang? The big bang defies the laws of thermodynamics.

3. All of you people that have taken biology-----> evolutionists say that the simplerer life came first right? well, the simplest life there is, is a one-cell parasite. how could they survive initially without some other life?

4. All of the fossil finds that men have found of "missing links" have been largely made up. In fact, the one named Lucy's bones were found 2 miles apart with 200 feet depth separation. how could they belong to one organism.

5. The geologic time scale can not be found layer ofr layer in any part of the wolrd. The grand Canyon itself is missing about 150 milliong years.

6. There have been fossil finds of fish on Mt. Everest> explain that unless there wasn't a worldwide flood. Water dsplaces and finds its own level, so the only way for a fish to make it to the top of a mountian is for a wolrd-wide flood to occur.

I'm definitely for creation. 

-------------counter by stryker76--------------
1) yeah that all fits..

2) Thermodynamics has nothing to do with the big bang...its all gravity

3)If you have taken Biology you would have learned bout the experiment that showed how life can come from basic elements

4)Fossil Prints of one plant where foun in South America....and the other part of the print was found in Africa...this is what proved Plate Tectonics...the moving of the Earths Crust

5)Layers are missing due to Erosion and other Weathering elements....all take into consideration...the Ice Ages...yes there have been many...

6)Fish Fossil on Mt. Everest prove that the Earths crust is always moving upwards...if you where to ever follow it...you can see the Mt. Everest and K2 are always switchin off as tallest in the world...they are still growing....if you watch a video of the earths surface changing over the last couple Billion years you would see that the Himialayas is a relativly New mountian Range that just has a fast rate of growth....

1. If the earth's magnetic field would have been so strong to end upto what it is today..... it would have fried all life. Or, if it was strong enough to still support life, there would be no magnetic field.

2. The Second Law of Thermodynamics can be stated in many different ways, e.g.:

that the entropy of the universe tends towards a maximum (in simple terms, entropy is a measure of disorder)

usable energy is running out

information tends to get scrambled

order tends towards disorder

a random jumble won’t organize itself

ORDER FROM DISORDER????? it is like a book factory exploding and creating a dictionary.

3. Spontaneous generation is now been accepted as impossible. Louis Pasteur conducted an expreriment using flasks that proved this statement. Only biogenesis is possible.

4. Ok, i see your point,
But----
'The various australopithecines (the group in which Lucy was said to belong) are, indeed, more different from both African apes and humans in most features than these latter are from each other. Part of the basis of this acceptance has been the fact that even opposing investigators have found these large differences as they too, used techniques and research designs that were less biased by prior notions as to what the fossils might have been'.

In layman's terms, this group is not part of the missing links to humans

+tell me why men have sculpted an entire missing link out of a single tooth?? or when they put together a man nd a monkey and called it a missing link?

5. THE Flood... how else could a canyon like that be made?? That also is an eplaination for the 150 years. There are other places that weathering and erosion should not effect. There should be at leat one example, but there is not.

6. Ok, so why have there HUGE amounts of drift-fish fossils (fish that float along with current) found all facing the exact same direction and at the exact same layer of the earth (indicating the same time). THat means a MASSIVE current.... also fish fossils of fish with food halfway have been found all over.... they say that fossils form over 1,000 years.... i don't think that a fish would take 1,000 years to halfway their. There had to be Sudden pressure.

[SkYlIneZx4xLiF]

i say in betwee the both, because teh organisms couldnt just pop out of nowhere.......

[*krnxswat*]

i highly doubt creation will happen...

Wrong tense.

[likeachild]

1. If the earth's magnetic field would have been so strong to end upto what it is today..... it would have fried all life. Or, if it was strong enough to still support life, there would be no magnetic field.

2. The Second Law of Thermodynamics can be stated in many different ways, e.g.:

that the entropy of the universe tends towards a maximum (in simple terms, entropy is a measure of disorder)

usable energy is running out

information tends to get scrambled

order tends towards disorder

a random jumble won’t organize itself

ORDER FROM DISORDER????? it is like a book factory exploding and creating a dictionary.

3. Spontaneous generation is now been accepted as impossible. Louis Pasteur conducted an expreriment using flasks that proved this statement. Only biogenesis is possible.

4. Ok, i see your point,
But----
'The various australopithecines (the group in which Lucy was said to belong) are, indeed, more different from both African apes and humans in most features than these latter are from each other. Part of the basis of this acceptance has been the fact that even opposing investigators have found these large differences as they too, used techniques and research designs that were less biased by prior notions as to what the fossils might have been'.

In layman's terms, this group is not part of the missing links to humans

+tell me why men have sculpted an entire missing link out of a single tooth?? or when they put together a man nd a monkey and called it a missing link?

5. THE Flood... how else could a canyon like that be made?? That also is an eplaination for the 150 years. There are other places that weathering and erosion should not effect. There should be at leat one example, but there is not.

6. Ok, so why have there HUGE amounts of drift-fish fossils (fish that float along with current) found all facing the exact same direction and at the exact same layer of the earth (indicating the same time). THat means a MASSIVE current.... also fish fossils of fish with food halfway have been found all over.... they say that fossils form over 1,000 years.... i don't think that a fish would take 1,000 years to halfway their. There had to be Sudden pressure.

omg you scientists

I can barely understand what your saying....

nice research though..






http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8371

[Freezedude32]

Creation- If god made us, something made god, the maker is made by someone else. This just goes on and on and on infinitely. Outside of this, someone made this "system of infinite creators". Thats what i believe in, no single supreme being.

[likeachild]

Creation- If god made us, something made god, the maker is made by someone else. This just goes on and on and on infinitely. Outside of this, someone made this "system of infinite creators". Thats what i believe in, no single supreme being.

that is really confusing
like

chicken or egg.. which came first

[*krnxswat*]

Creation- If god made us, something made god, the maker is made by someone else. This just goes on and on and on infinitely. Outside of this, someone made this "system of infinite creators". Thats what i believe in, no single supreme being.

How do you know something made god?

[angel-roh]

How do you know something made god?

i agree wit chu seon ho... i mean how does he knoe who made God? hm?...

[oOyunieOo]

Creation- If God made us, something made God, the maker is made by someone else. This just goes on and on and on infinitely. Outside of this, someone made this "system of infinite creators". Thats what i believe in, no single supreme being.

Ok.... look how complex the world is. How could it just happen out of nowhere? You have to draw the line somewhere.... I know this is going to sound "Christainist" but we just comprehend something that had no beginning....

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." Word meaning Jesus Christ..... yeah I know ????WHAT????? they are together--->Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit. "Yeah, but that's the Bible." Come on, this God loves us.... yeah loves everyone us who does drugs, has sex, and attempts suicide or murder. Think about it.... to have someone love so unconditionally as that.... don't you want that? Don't you want to go somewhere after you die, it only makes sense that there is a place that you go. You want to go to the right place (heaven), believe me.

[likeachild]

Ok.... look how complex the world is. How could it just happen out of nowhere? You have to draw the line somewhere.... I know this is going to sound "Christainist" but we just comprehend something that had no beginning....

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning." Word meaning Jesus Christ..... yeah I know ????WHAT????? they are together--->Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit. "Yeah, but that's the Bible." Come on, this God loves us.... yeah loves everyone us who does drugs, has sex, and attempts suicide or murder. Think about it.... to have someone love so unconditionally as that.... don't you want that? Don't you want to go somewhere after you die, it only makes sense that there is a place that you go. You want to go to the right place (heaven), believe me.

right on, man...right on!

[Freezedude32]

I'm just saying that everything is created by something and that something is alos created by another and it just goes on. Because if god was just there, why is he just there? Who made him in the first place? IF he just appeared, then who made him appear? Its like:

the following is true
the previous is false

never ending cycle. But now think outside of the cycle. I just wrote that meaning it was created even though it never has a beginning or end. Complicated

[oOyunieOo]

I'm just saying that everything is created by something and that something is alos created by another and it just goes on. Because if god was just there, why is he just there? Who made him in the first place? IF he just appeared, then who made him appear? Its like:

the following is true
the previous is false

never ending cycle. But now think outside of the cycle. I just wrote that meaning it was created even though it never has a beginning or end. Complicated 

What we are saying is that He was there in the beginning. We can't comprehend it because we think that everything has a beginning because we only trust what we physically see. What I am saying is that you have to accept by faith that there had to be something that was there all of the time. aka GOD

[malenky_koshka]

i'm not saying im sacreligious or anything, but i find it..just a little unrealistic to think that someone plopped a bunch of humans down, then the world started. If you think about it, the realist explanation..i guess is that we evolved from bacteria....like one big cycle type thing. mmyepp...