Is the war in Iraq actually a help? Options

[JC4P]

becuase like i'm a middle eastern, from iran, and like the war even though its in Iraq is ruining my life. u go into air ports people search u like 200 times, in shops, everyone staring at you to make sure u dont steal...and I have been called a terrorist in my school and gotten a threat that someone was gonna kill me w/ his dad's gun....
anyone here actually belive that the war in Iraq is helping anyone?

[ryfitaDF]

well, dubya's getting alot of money from it.

[Spirited Away]

In the long run, YES.

Or maybe I'm just a tad too hopeful.

[JC4P]

well, dubya's getting alot of money from it.

and somehow were in debt...see my point?

[Spirited Away]

We've been in debt for a long time. Be more specific guys or else people will get the wrong idea.

[sammi rules you]

currently, no. the people in iraq are still being massacred, there's still extreme poverty and bad conditions..perhaps, in the long run, it will help, but i can't predict that.

[ryfitaDF]

and somehow were in debt...see my point?

as if the 200 billion came out of Bush's personal checkbook.

his duties in business, such as national defense and halliburten (sp?), have delivered him and his administration hefty profits.

[yukichan]

currently, no. the people in iraq are still being massacred, there's still extreme poverty and bad conditions..perhaps, in the long run, it will help, but i can't predict that.

i agree..right now many ppl r dying..both iraqi ppl and the troops in iraq...but in the long run i think it will benefit the world...

[mzawesome]

currently its' has not helped alot cuz you see people bring killed and bombed because the US is there. yeah i agree with the others maybe later on it will be better.

[gelionie]

I don't think the war is helping the people in Iraq in any way. No offense, but I think the US government shouldn't be butting into other countries problems, unless that country requested to.

From the beginning of the war til the end of it, I never supported it.

[*xcaitlinx*]

ive always thought that the high security thing is ridiculous. you can't go anywhere without feeling like a criminal. i also think that it's pathetic how people that are middle eastern automatically get sterotyped, as if they are terrorists. a middle american has the same opprotunity as a middle eastern to harm America. So, why are the middle eastern people getting treated differently? I really don't understand. There's no logic to it.

[*Weird addiction*]

the war in iraq is STUPID every day in CNN, "breaking news" "xx number of iraqis/american soldiers have been killed in a car bombing" EVERY STUPID DAY SOMEONE DIES!!! THAT IS NOT HELP, GEORGE BUSH MADE A HUGE MISTAKE, HE KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE,...HES NOT HELPING IRAQ, HES KILLING THEM!!

[Spirited Away]

the war in iraq is STUPID every day in CNN, "breaking news" "xx number of iraqis/american soldiers have been killed in a car bombing" EVERY STUPID DAY SOMEONE DIES!!! THAT IS NOT HELP, GEORGE BUSH MADE A HUGE MISTAKE, HE KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE,...HES NOT HELPING IRAQ, HES KILLING THEM!!

People die because they are addicted to smoking, too, but I know you don't think smoking is stupid.

People die in all wars. Whether or not this one will yield long term positive or negative effect is yet to be known.

[*Weird addiction*]

People die because they are addicted to smoking, too, but I know you don't think smoking is stupid.

People die in all wars. Whether or not this one will yield long term positive or negative effect is yet to be known.

The war is OVER and people are still dying, WTF??

[Spirited Away]

The war is OVER and people are still dying, WTF??

Wow... What did you expect? That terrorists or insurgents will put away their arms and submit to the laws of the barely-there government? Or that the US should leave and let the new government fend for itself after so many lives lost and so much money put into the efforts?

[f4113n]

yes, it puts more cash in bush's pocket.

but theres SO much more good it does! this "war on terror" has killed thousands of people, caused gas prices to go waaaay up, completely killed the USA's economy, encouraged racism, has thrown the USA into a 200 billion dollar (and counting) deficit, has hurt so many people like you, and has the whole country paranoid about terrorism (remember the duct tape frenzy a few years ago?).

oh and i think the whole thing was good for the media, cuz everyone paranoid about getting attacked by terrorists is watching the news. THIS JUST IN: X PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN IRAQ!!! well, morons, guess whos fault that is? bush! for starting this stupid war, plunging the country into a deficit, screwing up the economy, then getting f**king reelected!!!

war on terror my ass. its to terrorize everyone to reelect bush, and it worked pretty well, added to the rigged e-voting machines >.<

[Spirited Away]

yes, it puts more cash in bush's pocket.

but theres SO much more good it does! this "war on terror" has killed thousands of people, caused gas prices to go waaaay up, completely killed the USA's economy, encouraged racism, has thrown the USA into a 200 billion dollar (and counting) deficit, has hurt so many people like you, and has the whole country paranoid about terrorism (remember the duct tape frenzy a few years ago?).

Exaggerated much? "Completely killed the USA's economy"? A critical factor of why gas prices will go up anyway is because of the world's thirst for crude oil is increasing every day. Go read "The End of Cheap Oil" from National Geographic magazine.

[ryfitaDF]

Exaggerated much? "Completely killed the USA's economy"?    A critical factor of why gas prices will go up anyway is because of the world's thirst for crude oil is increasing every day. Go read "The End of Cheap Oil" from National Geographic magazine.

everything else was pretty much on the nose, though.

[Spirited Away]

Everything else? There was only ONE thing I could agree with and that would be the deficit problem.

As for being paranoid about terrorism... isn't that a given? Racism IS NOT encouraged by the war, discrimination is encouraged by the 9/11 attack. The two events, though related, are different.

But what made me laugh my buttocks off was his/her statement that it completely killed US economy.

[f4113n]

But what made me laugh my buttocks off was his/her statement that it completely killed US economy.

of course it killed the economy! how the hell do you keep the economy alive when you've got a war you're waging that costs a couple million a day?

[*kryogenix*]

as if the 200 billion came out of Bush's personal checkbook.

his duties in business, such as national defense and halliburten (sp?), have delivered him and his administration hefty profits.

i don't understand how he is making money off of the war.

 
of course it killed the economy! how the hell do you keep the economy alive when you've got a war you're waging that costs a couple million a day?

Before the war, DJIA was ~9000. Now it's almost 11000.

[Spirited Away]

of course it killed the economy! how the hell do you keep the economy alive when you've got a war you're waging that costs a couple million a day?

What the eff are you talking about? Go take an economics course then post.

If you hadn't noticed genius, the economy is fine. Go pick up the latest Wall Street Journal and eat your words.

[innovation]

hey, iraq is democracy-bound, as are many other nations. we're working toward increased stability here.. not complete stability, but we're working toward more of it. and development, too.

i'm very sorry about the discrimination that you've experienced, though; my school's actually pretty tolerant of various ethnic groups and religions. if anything happens in your school, be sure to calmly report the incident to your guidance counselor, teacher, or principal; this is a very, very serious matter, and schools must take action. you could also start an international club at your school, which promotes exposure to and tolerance of various cultures.

[f4113n]

What the eff are you talking about? Go take an economics course then post.

If you hadn't noticed genius, the economy is fine. Go pick up the latest Wall Street Journal and eat your words.

which is why china has taken over as the world leading consumer, millions have lost their jobs, and many forms of currency are (or are about to) surpass the dollar *cough euro cough*

[Rachel]

thats like asking me if you need a pencil to make pasta.

NO

[Teesa]

^haha, exactly. I am really sad because everyday so many people are getting killed and we should get out of there now. I don't see how this will benefit in the long run. Maybe it will improve iraq's development or whatever others have said, but I don't think it will.

[sadolakced acid]

slavery benifited the decendents of slaves (if you don't belive me, make a new topic if you wish. and i'll prove it for you)

200 years from now iraq will probably reap benifits.

[Spirited Away]

which is why china has taken over as the world leading consumer

And there is no doubt that China will eventually become the world top emitter of polution, but I digress. Tell me, why do you make it sound like this would be a bad thing?

If you have a trade partner, wouldn't you want your partner to be a competent trader?

millions have lost their jobs,

Millions? Jobs are destroyed and created; that is how the economy works.

And if you do not believe when I say that the jobless rate declined since January and that there is job growth in service sectors and job decline in manufacturing industries, feel free to go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and find out. Okay? There is a sort of balance in employment right now and many people and economists predict that more jobs in the service industries is actually a good thing in the long run.

and many forms of currency are (or are about to) surpass the dollar *cough euro cough*

The decline of the dollar is a strategy to increase US exports. Whether or not it's working... I've yet to research (but I doubt it helps much).

The European and Japanese central banks had tried to defend the dollar, but it is in for a time of weakness and the problem stems from our huge deficit and trade accounts. However, currency markets believe that so long as US exports rise with the help of a lower value dollar, and imports fall, things will mend.
We need to wait for the results.

But no, the US economy has not "completely" died or is anywhere near dying as of now. And THAT is my point.

[Azn Kid from NY]

slavery benifited the decendents of slaves (if you don't belive me, make a new topic if you wish. and i'll prove it for you)

sadolakced acid, first of all, it is just plain wrong to ever say slavery ever benefitted or helped anyone in any way....

and then u gonna say "make a new topic and ill prove it"

well i know already what ur gonna say bitch.

...u are gonna say that that later the descendants of black slaves get to have benifits of affirmative action...am i right?

i knew it sadolakced acid, u are racist bastard and dont even deny it...

[Spirited Away]

sadolakced acid, first of all, it is just plain wrong to ever say slavery ever benefitted or helped anyone in any way....

and then u gonna say "make a new topic and ill prove it"

well i know already what ur gonna say bitch.

...u are gonna say that that later the descendants of black slaves get to have benifits of affirmative action...am i right?

i knew it sadolakced acid, u are racist bastard and dont even deny it...

You promised to stop cursing twice, thrice, before. I have had it. Don't do it again.

But how on earth does it make him racist? Anyway, we'll just have to wait until you come back for the answer.

[demolished]

um ... it helps prevent m o r e deads if we didnt have war ..

[Spirited Away]

um ... it helps prevent  m o r e  deads if we didnt have war ..

If there were no hate, no violence, no drugs, no serial killers, no psychos, drunk drivers... an otherwise perfect world, then we can prevent many deaths.

[f4113n]

But no, the US economy has not "completely" died or is anywhere near dying as of now. And THAT is my point.

you take my words too literally. i dont mean that we're on the verge of another great depression or anything, i just said that since bush took office, the economy has been doing a lot worse than it did under clinton

[Spirited Away]

you take my words too literally. i dont mean that we're on the verge of another great depression or anything, i just said that since bush took office, the economy has been doing a lot worse than it did under clinton

How can exaggerations be taken "too literally"?

Yea well, the recession was there before Bush took office.