swearing God's name in vain, should it be banned from public schools? Options

[azn_r4pf4n]

I like to bring this subject up. Here's the question: Should swearing God's name in vain be banned from public schools?

I would say yes, it should be banned. My reason: Because of the fact that I'm trying to be religious and hearing things like, "Oh my ***," can offend me. It's like another way of offending somebody's religion.

Some people might say "No." A possible reason is that they aren't religious. Some teachers in my school don't allow people saying that term, "Oh my ***," because it offends Christianity, and it's the dominant religion in the US. Other teachers will let you say it because they don't care about that term that much.

Another possible reason people won't want to ban it is that it might be a "waste of a rule." How is that a possible reason b/c it's a "waste of a rule"? Consider the facts: Yes, there are a lot of Evangalistic Christian parents, but is there a lot of Evangalistic children? If there isn't, it would make that rule "a waste of a rule."

So what's your opinion?

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[Spirited Away]

You know, there's "Oh my God" and then there's "Oh my God". The two are different. If I clearly mean my God then it shouldn't offend you.

[azn_r4pf4n]

You know, there's "Oh my God" and then there's "Oh my God". The two are different. If I clearly mean my God then it shouldn't offend you.

i know, i know. it's just that when people say it, either way, i take it pretty seriously b/c i get easily offended.

[sammi rules you]

well, it's not our fault you're easily offended.
it's part of our common language. you're gonna have to deal with that.
maybe you could work on your fault of being easily offended, instead of trying to change the way most of the country talks.

[azn_r4pf4n]

well, it's not our fault you're easily offended.
it's part of our common language. you're gonna have to deal with that.
maybe you could work on your fault of being easily offended, instead of trying to change the way most of the country talks.

true, true... i can't really change the way people say that term, cuz of the fact the Bible says that they're sinners, and they aren't saved... my school doesn't really have that many religious ppl and they say that term a lot. we have rules to not allow people to offend other pplz religion, but yet, there are very few evangilist kids out there who might get offeneded just cuz of that term and there's not much of a rule to stop that term.

it's debatable of whether or not to ban it, but right now, my brain is telling me that idea is like "a waste of a rule."

[gigiopolis]

I'd have to agree with Sammi. Just because you're unhappy with something doesn't mean everyone else has to change to satisfy you.

[azn_r4pf4n]

Yep. Brings back the possible reason why it's unnecessary to have this kind of rule.

Another possible reason people won't want to ban it is that it might be a "waste of a rule." How is that a possible reason b/c it's a "waste of a rule"? Consider the facts: Yes, there are a lot of Evangalistic Christian parents, but is there a lot of Evangalistic children? If there isn't, it would make that rule "a waste of a rule."

Enough said. Public school children are mostly not that religious when they are in school, so it would be a waste of a rule.

[Spirited Away]

i know, i know. it's just that when people say it, either way, i take it pretty seriously b/c i get easily offended.

Why should what I say about my God/Creator bother you?

[gigiopolis]

Why should what I say about my God/Creator bother you?

Imagine people saying:

"Oh your God!"

[Azn Kid from NY]

:::DELETE:::

f**k it....not tryin to argue about god again...

[Spirited Away]

Imagine people saying:

"Oh your God!"

I'd give them a look and then the look will stay on me for at least a couple hours.

[azn_r4pf4n]

Why should what I say about my God/Creator bother you?

Imagine people saying:

"Oh your God!"

oh dang... i should've read carefully. but i don't really ask people of what they mean when they say "Oh my ***."

[sheepy]

well..i think its a really good idea bcus i wince too when i hear it. but seriously.. do you really think kids are gonna just stop saying something they've been saying for like.. forever?

[Spirited Away]

oh dang... i should've read carefully. but i don't really ask people of what they mean when they say "Oh my ***."

Then don't be offended so easily. Not everyone is out to offend Christianity. If you really want to get into it, then ask whoever's bothering you with that statement what he/she means. If the person response with "what does my God/god/Creator has to do with yours?", then you'd know.

[heyyfrankie]

well, it's not our fault you're easily offended.
it's part of our common language. you're gonna have to deal with that.

i really don't understand why people get so offended!?! when we something big happen. like a car accident for example, we are going to say OH MY GOD! (or gosh) it is just something that we all say and it is apart of our language. and i don't think it should be banned from school because that just might createblog controversy with other religions. thus, creating an even bigger problem.

i also think that you should not take personally. when someone says "oh my god" we all know that it is just an expression. we all know that there is only one god in christianity. if not, there would be 378478947982374375074 gods.









why can we just all get along?

[smile4me]

saying stuff like that in a public school should not be banned because the constitution CLEARLY states that church and state should be separated. aaaaaand, ppl have a right to free speech. read the first amendment.

[edit] heh..i reread this..it sounds kinda rude...sry. ^.^;

[nevernothere]

*shrugs* I don't think you would be able to enforce such a rule.... or pass it, for that matter.

[azn_r4pf4n]

saying stuff like that in a public school should not be banned because the constitution CLEARLY states that church and state should be separated. aaaaaand, ppl have a right to free speech. read the first amendment.

I know about the 1st amendment. It's just that i pointed the reason to ban b/c it might possibly offend a Christian's religion. It's like saying something offensive towards another person's religion almost. Thats why I think it shouldn't be said in school.

But at the same time, you point out about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech, yes, is there to allow you to say anything you want without the government controlling what you say, unless you say something threatening. The term "Oh my ***," isn't threatening, so therefore, you're saying it shouldn't be banned.

My teacher (he's agnognistic) claims it's a figure of speech. I claim it's swearing, no matter how it's used, but I really can't do anything about stopping it.

[*tweeak*]

because thats not a complete violation of freedom of speech. next, lets ban "crap" because it means the same as "shit". besides which, people curse and get away with it anyway. if you banned it, it would be like tying religion and school again, because its a commandment not to say it

[Spirited Away]

I know about the 1st amendment. It's just that i pointed the reason to ban b/c it might possibly offend a Christian's religion. It's like saying something offensive towards another person's religion almost. Thats why I think it shouldn't be said in school.

You know, some people are offended that you say or think that your God is the one true God, but that doesn't mean that those people will try to stop you from saying that. They'll debate it, but they won't stop you, or at least, I hope not.

Sammi and Tweeak really said it all.

[darkphyre]

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "God" isn't even God's name. Thus, saying "Oh my God" isn't even taking the Lord's name in vain.

[Paradox of Life]

I'm not into much religion. I can't really say I have a religion right now, but I really think how the rules are right now are fine. Some teachers (like my Social Studies teacher) don't allow saying, "Oh my God." But then again, some teachers do. I don't know much to say in defense except that people shouldn't feel too offended by people saying, "Oh my God." I guess because I don't know anything about Christanity really affects my thinking, but if someone's overreacting that's their problem. Banning it to all religions makes it hard for people who already have it as a habit. I tried to stop saying "Oh my God" when one of my friends didn't like me saying that, but it's hard to get rid of. It's kind of like a reflex, just a phrase used when you trip or something and people shouldn't be getting offended by something as light as that.

[azn_r4pf4n]

I would like to take this opportunity to point out that "God" isn't even God's name. Thus, saying "Oh my God" isn't even taking the Lord's name in vain.

actually, even though it isn't his name, I remember reading this book about how to raise boys and the author was Christian. seems like the author was a former teacher and he heard somebody say "Oh my ***," once in class and the teacher got angry and he pointed out that it was against the 10 commandments (it was a private school)

[Ington]

Personally, i think there's a limit to what people can say and what they can't. People shouldn't be able to promote violence or state racial comments. However, I don't think a small comment like "Oh my God" should be banned. It might at a religious school, but for the general public, its an everyday remark. No one means anything offensive by saying it. They aren't swearing on God's name. I really don't have a problem with it.

And excuse me very much, it 'offends christianity'???!! You know, Christianity isn't the only religion that believes in God. I don't care if it's the 'dominant' religion or whatever you call it. This is a matter about God, not religion. True, christianity is more popular. But if you look at who believes in God and who doesn't, there are only two kinds of people. Believers and non-believers. Don't be ignorant. I'm Jewish, and i find that offensive.

[sammi rules you]

and i don't think it should be banned from school because that just might createblog controversy with other religions. thus, creating an even bigger problem.

wow, you're hooked on createblog. hehe.

and dude, just they cuss or something doesn't affect you. it's not like they're saying "CHRISTIANITY SUCKS!" they just don't believe it's bad to say it. it shouldn't offend you if someone says oh my god.

and like fae said, it offends us with you saying that your God is the only one we could be referring to.

there's no way you can possibly remove everything that offends someone. deal with it.

[WhiteLotus*]

I don't think it should. Maybe from Catholic schools, because 'tis is a sin to do so.

But in regular public schools, I don't think it should. It's part of our everyday vocabulary, just like all the other curse words. >.<

Kids will still say it no matter what, though.

[sadolakced acid]

my religion requires me to say 'oh my god' whenever i experience supprise.

i'll sue if i don't get to practice my religion.

deal with it. :-)

[racoons > you]

true, true... i can't really change the way people say that term, cuz of the fact the Bible says that they're sinners, and they aren't saved...

im not to fussed about goin to hell, all my friends are going too, so at least i wont be lonely. we'll make the best of it. plus i plan to haunt people, so it really doesnt affect me one bit

on the point ofoffense- do you think that 'under god' should be removed from the pledge of allegience, because that offends some non religious people... its the same kinda thing

[heyyfrankie]

wow, you're hooked on createblog. hehe.

i can't believe i put that! y'all know what i mean!

[azn_r4pf4n]

well... yall made me really think about this debate about whether or not it should be banned. i've decided it shouldn't be banned.

but one of my biggest questions i've thought up is: Why do people say "Oh my ***!"? It is really an offensive term if you put yourself in this situation.

Pretend everybody started saying "Oh my ___(put ur name here)__!" Your friends would most likely be offended, right? Moral: Saying stuff like "Oh my ***," no matter if you mean it or not is offensive.

and for the "Under God," issue, I don't even say the pledge.

2 big reasons:

1. It's like a force of faith. Faith is not forced, therefore, it should be banned from public schools.

2. the pledge should the banned also. Some kids don't take it seriously, so why not ban the pledge itself?

[Spirited Away]

Why would saying "Oh my Leyla" be offensive? Pretend Leyla is my name.

[gigiopolis]

^ Exactly what I thought. It's not like you're saying "God is Evil!"

"Oh my God" isn't a threat, it's just saying His name in vain, which means you're saying it casually. So if you say, for instance, my name in vain, why would it be offensive to me? Wouldn't I be happy that I'm so important that you blurt out my name whenever you feel like it?

Not that I'm saying God would like that, but no one I know would be offended if their name was used in the phrase "Oh my ___".

[Joanne]

whenever i say that phrase i actually mean "Oh my gawd."... but no one knows that. so now i say "Oh my gosh".. or "OH MA GAWWW!"

[miss barnes]

i dont like when people say it but, i dont let it bother me. a lot of people at my school are church going people so i dont hear it too often

[mysticalazxn]

nope some ppl don't even know who is god
they just said it
it will be a big govt problem if they don't allow it.

[angelbaby317]

I don't like using God's name in vain either.

BUT, don't worry about others. You can't change their langauge, cause most of them will ignore you anyway. Just owrry about you. As long as you don't use the Lord's name in vain, then you have nothing to worry about, cause you are being a good Christian, and thats what matters. That YOU are a good Christian.

Maybe if people were bashing your religion, but most people don't even mean it to offend you.

[gigiopolis]

Also, why would it bother you that other people are using God's name in vain? Then, the person who is doing so would be the "bad" Christian. Does it affect you? No. As long as you are a "good" Christian, why would it matter what other people are doing? Let alone that most of the people who swear God's name in vain aren't Christian at all. I see the same issues coming up with same-sex marriages.

[kokosofly]

I just know saying the Lord's name in vain is a sin.

And if you say "Oh my god" pertaining to some other god (there is only one) than that is also a sin, because you are to have no other gods than the one, true Lord.

[*xcaitlinx*]

You know, there's "Oh my God" and then there's "Oh my God". The two are different. If I clearly mean my God then it shouldn't offend you. 

exactly.




i think that saying "omg" shouldnt be banned. All because the majority of people are christian, that doesn't mean that EVERYONE is christian. If they have a problem with people saying that, then that's their problem. Freedom of speech people, please.

Why must we always be politically correct?


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btw---if christians have a problem with saying the lord's name in vain, then how about jewish people and other religions that don't believe in god say that they want "one nation, under god" [in the pledge of alligence] to be taken out.

[azn_r4pf4n]

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btw---if christians have a problem with saying the lord's name in vain, then how about jewish people and other religions that don't believe in god say that they want "one nation, under god" [in the pledge of alligence] to be taken out.

b/c it promotes Christianity and the other religions don't feel comfartable hearing that term.

[lilphoenix]

Should the words 'Under God' be removed in the Pledge?

Then tell me should we swear with God's name.

[*xcaitlinx*]

b/c it promotes Christianity and the other religions don't feel comfartable hearing that term.

thats what i said....

[*mona lisa*]

why only christians? the word "God" doesn't refer to Christ only. i mean you could have different names for your Gods, but they are divine and most people will call them "God". there are thousands of other gods, for other religions.

[gigiopolis]

why only christians? the word "God" doesn't refer to Christ only. i mean you could have different names for your Gods, but they are divine and most people will call them "God". there are thousands of other gods, for other religions.

I think it's because Christianity's the one that says it's a sin to swear God's name in vain.

[*mona lisa*]

but its like that for other religions too...i don't think most people wouldn't care if they heard people took God's name in vain, because you're not supposed to do that for all religions. well it makes sense for all religions, but some religions i know, it IS wrong to take God's name in vain. whether its christianity or not.

[demolished]

That seem ridiclous, my school doesnt cares cuz it'z only a word. How is that bad to said it ? Why do people have to take is soo serouisly ? I dont see the point ..

[racoons > you]

And if you say "Oh my god" pertaining to some other god (there is only one) than that is also a sin, because you are to have no other gods than the one, true Lord.

'its one thing to sy you've got the best god, but ot say you've got the only god...'

thats just naive...

power of belief my friend... as long as someone believe's in a god, then they're just as real as the christian god, or allah, or vishnu, or gaia, or whatever you choose to worship.

and as far as god saying not to have any others. well duh, he would say that. he jus wants to show of his little clutch of followers to his deity-buddies down the ambrosia bar.

*shrugs*

[*mona lisa*]

And if you say "Oh my god" pertaining to some other god (there is only one) than that is also a sin, because you are to have no other gods than the one, true Lord.

CAN'T BELIEVE HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE.

[Enchantress101]

Okay, look, people should try looking at it this way:

If people started going around banning stuff that offends a someone or group of people then . . . we wouldn't be able to do anything.

Someone is always going to be offended by what someone else id doing. Me typing in the library, making clickity lick sounds like I'm doing now could be annoying to someone, so I guess I shouldn't be allowed to type in the library anymore, right? Wrong.

So, someone says "Oh my God," and you're offended. So you have the right to pass legislation preventing people from saying that, right? Wrong.

Oh, and gay marriage offends Christians and stuff, so it shouldn't be allowed, right? Wrong.

This applies to a lot of stuff. Think about it.

[racoons > you]

well one could argue that murder only offends the peopl ewho knew the deceased party, but that is still rightly illegal...

im just bickering tho,i agree with you really :)

[OriskybusinessO]

I just know saying the Lord's name in vain is a sin.

And if you say "Oh my god" pertaining to some other god (there is only one) than that is also a sin, because you are to have no other gods than the one, true Lord.

its not a sin if you dont believe in any god.

It shouldnt be banned, because... you cant please all the religions, even if christianity is the magority, if you please them, what about the minorities?

and the pledge issue, i think they should get rid of it.

[aznxdreamer]

no..not everyone is christian. not everyone believes in the same thing.

[sammi rules you]

btw---if christians have a problem with saying the lord's name in vain, then how about jewish people and other religions that don't believe in god say that they want "one nation, under god" [in the pledge of alligence] to be taken out.

jewish people believe in god.......
the only people that don't believe in a god, if i'm correct, are atheists..please know what you're talking about before you talk.

[racoons > you]

^^ i read that too... but im not sure thats exactly what they meant... i think what was meant was Jewish people and people who dont believe in God, with out the other...

surely noone could be that dense?

[sammi rules you]

oh..well hopefully that's what they meant then. otherwise.....

and ya never know, most people here didn't know what a bar/bat mitzvah was.

and why are you not on msn?

[Jinjjasanaee]

i don't think it's good, but i don't think it should be banned.

[*xcaitlinx*]

jewish people believe in god.......
the only people that don't believe in a god, if i'm correct, are atheists..please know what you're talking about before you talk.

i do know what i'm talking about. when under god was put into the pledge, it was directed towards the Christians' god. THATS what i meant.

[b0st0ngrl]

when under god was put into the pledge, it was directed towards the Christians' god. THATS what i meant.

^Woah. Wait...isn't the Jewish G-d and the Christian G-d the same thing except we believe in Him differently? That is very rude saying that it was put towards the Christian G-d and highly offensive

and ya never know, most people here didn't know what a bar/bat mitzvah was

^I had mine 2 years ago! :D

[gigiopolis]

^

Well, there may be a God for different religions, but even though they are called by the same name, it doesn't mean that they're the same in nature.

And besides, even if the pledge refers to ALL religions' Gods, it's still offensive to those who don't believe in God.

[Teesa]

^

Well, there may be a God for different religions, but even though they are called by the same name, it doesn't mean that they're the same in nature.

And besides, even if the pledge refers to ALL religions' Gods, it's still offensive to those who don't believe in God.

exactly, when I say the pledge, I don't say that part because it is offensive to me since I don't believe in god..but in replying to the topic, I don't think it CAN be banned because not everyone is christian obviously, so it doesn't offend those who aren't. Personally, I think the pledge shouldn't be banned, just revised to say: one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all: now, was that hard to say?

[lAzN YiN YanGl]

If its a public school, then it shouldn't be banned because public schools do not sway people to a certain religion,I think...Even if 90% of the school was public, they can't ban saying a word because they could just be saying oh my god, and not actually refer to God.

[Spirited Away]

And if you say "Oh my god" pertaining to some other god (there is only one) than that is also a sin, because you are to have no other gods than the one, true Lord.

Uh, so you just offended me for saying that your God is the only God, does this mean that you have no right to claim that anymore? After all, if I offend you by saying "Oh my God" so I should stop, shouldn't you stop claiming that your God is the only God because you're offending me?

Both sides are being offensive here, so what gives you more right to continue offending me and I should have no right to offend you?

[*tweeak*]

exactly, when I say the pledge, I don't say that part because it is offensive to me since I don't believe in god..but in replying to the topic, I don't think it CAN be banned because not everyone is christian obviously, so it doesn't offend those who aren't. Personally, I think the pledge shouldn't be banned, just revised to say: one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all: now, was that hard to say?

but how is it offensive? so what if you dont believe in God? i dont believe in reincarnation (random example) but i dont mind talking about it on a daily basis. the pledge isnt propoganda- its not some clever guise to brainwash people into believing in God. and as many people have pointed out, more than just Christians believe in God. why would we bother revising it? can we not let tradition stand? you cant please everyone, so how about instead of revising everything to fit the needs of people who have to have everything just to their liking, we let it stand

[Spirited Away]

^^ Well, if we should let tradition stand, we shouldn't have bother to add "under God" to the pledge in the first place.


But I agree that Christians aren't the only ones who believe in God and that it doesn't make sense to try to please everyone.

[iheartsimba]

First of all...at my school sommmeee teachers give you detentions for profanity anyway. So it's like agianst the rules anyway..but you can't stop it. Even if its banned people will still say it...

But like uninspired fae said...its the my...It's not like your bashing anyone's religion at all..

[*tweeak*]

^^ Well, if we should let tradition stand, we shouldn't have bother to add "under God" to the pledge in the first place.
But I agree that Christians aren't the only ones who believe in God and that it doesn't make sense to try to please everyone.

it was added in after originally written?

First of all...at my school sommmeee teachers give you detentions for profanity anyway. So it's like agianst the rules anyway..but you can't stop it. Even if its banned people will still say it...

But like uninspired fae said...its the my...It's not like your bashing anyone's religion at all..

last year i heard all but one of my teachers curse, so i havent seen anyone but ms parris bother to give detention for profanity anyway [/irrelevent]

[Spirited Away]

it was added in after originally written?

The pledge was first written in 1892 as "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

In 1924 "my flag" changed to 'the Flag of the United States of America'.

President Eisenhower supported the addition of "under God" after he was preached to by Rev. George Docherty.


The writer of the Pledge resented the first change. His surviving granddaughter at the time said that he would have resented the second change as well.

But to answer your question in full, yes it was added after it was written and also after the death of its author.

[*tweeak*]

oh, i never realized that

[lAzN YiN YanGl]

I heard somewhere that the only reason they put "God" in the pledge is because it would make the U.S seem like the good guys because if you have "God" on your side, then you would be good. Well, I only heard this, so whatever.

[azn_r4pf4n]

I heard somewhere that the only reason they put "God" in the pledge is because it would make the U.S seem like the good guys because if you have "God" on your side, then you would be good. Well, I only heard this, so whatever.

Ya thats true. During the 1950's (Cold War), everybody was afraid of the "Communists" (China and Russia), so they added the pledge. Thank God for Nixon for going to China.

[*Programmer*]

not really hardcore religous...god....is just another expression to give something intensity when using it ....for the wrong reasons

[angel-roh]

Yeah same here.
I think it should be banned.
I mean I'm very religious.
My heart is full of Christianity and
when I hear someone using God's name in vain.
I do not like it. I hear a lot of createblog members
using God's name in vain. Yeah I ignore it, but
it's sickening. And neither I do not want to quit
CB... whenever I look at it, I just sing "Our God
is an awesome God" you know that song, yeahh...
So yeah I think it should be banned from our school.
Because I know that half of our school students are
most likely Christianity hehe...
.
.

[racoons > you]

^^

but maybe there not talking about the same god. when i say oh my god, im alking about thor, the thunder god. he's my patron deity, and im talking about him. it has nothing whatever to do with the christian religion at all

[angel-roh]

But still, even they mention the word "god" or "God"
it still sounds the same, so I think it should be
banned even though they think god as thunder god or the zeus...

[racoons > you]

^^

why hough? if someone really believes in something like that, surely its helty that thats the first thing that comes out when somethig startles them, like they are turning for help or w/e

[Spirited Away]

But still, even they mention the word "god" or "God"
it still sounds the same, so I think it should be
banned even though they think god as thunder god or the zeus...

Get the word copyrighted then, SHEEESSSSH.

It will never be banned... GET OVER IT.

[gigiopolis]

Yeah same here.
I think it should be banned.
I mean I'm very religious.
My heart is full of Christianity and
when I hear someone using God's name in vain.
I do not like it. I hear a lot of createblog members
using God's name in vain. Yeah I ignore it, but
it's sickening. And neither I do not want to quit
CB... whenever I look at it, I just sing "Our God
is an awesome God" you know that song, yeahh...
So yeah I think it should be banned from our school.
Because I know that half of our school students are
most likely Christianity hehe...
.
.

It just doesn't make sense to me...how is it SICKENING? It's not like they're going up to you and saying "The God that Susan believes in is a bit fat hunk of lard, useless piece of crap." (just an example)

Just how is someone saying something that is NOT offensive to THEM and a whole lot of people something that should be banned? The thing about swearing God's name in vain is that it isn't like racism or sexism, that it's a form of discrimination and that you're insulting and putting down what they believe in or who they are, but this is just a matter of religious rules and conduct.

Since swearing God's name in vain is only a sin if you're religious, then why would it be considered hate or offensiveness if someone nonreligious said it? The person saying it is merely saying something that, if that person were to be religious, would be a sin to them and only them. The person swearing God's name will NOT affect you, will NOT affect the religious person. This is the same with same sex marriages: if two people are doing something that is sinful, why are you so against it? They't not affecting you or ruining your good terms with God and chances to get into heaven. Why do you have to make such a big deal out of it?

The other thing that gets me is, if swearing God's name in vain should be banned, then why not swearing in general? It's ridiculous to ban something that offends only one part of a population, the religious people, and not everyone else, when there is something else out there that is offensive to EVERYONE. It's a preposterous idea to ban swearing in general, and even a more preposterous idea to ban swearing God's name in vain, because it's not even offensive to the whole general public.

[ItzOnlySydney]

oh my f**king god! oh my effing god! oh my god!

it doesnt rly bother me becuz i am not of that religion so i could care less.

ever heard of seperation of chuirch and state?
they can't make laws based on religion

[*[2]Nekked*]

this isnt really an argument, but i find it funny sometimes how non-religious/atheist/agnostic people will say things like "oh my god." it just seems contradictary..

really though, when people say "oh my god," they dont really mean God. its just an expression. "God" in that phrase has lost any actual meaning.

but then, when you think about it, you're saying "MY god"; and there is more than one religion, am i right? you're not saying the word as a name... you're really saying "oh my deity/higher power." and even if you do mean God (note capitalization), you arent really saying his name.

[*[2]Nekked*]

jewish people believe in god.......
the only people that don't believe in a god, if i'm correct, are atheists..please know what you're talking about before you talk.

actually there are some religions that dont believe in any gods.

(sorry for double post)

[potmonkeyjd]

I believe, that even if we did ban it people would still stay it, heck they'd prolly say it more. At the schools i've been to some class mates refer to others and N***ers, Tell me that ain't right, I believe the schools have bigger problems then students saying Oh My God.
But that's just me

[potmonkeyjd]

this isnt really an argument, but i find it funny sometimes how non-religious/atheist/agnostic people will say things like "oh my god." it just seems contradictary..

I have friends that claim they're atheist and still celebrate Christmas *contradictary*

[Spirited Away]

I have friends that claim they're atheist and still celebrate Christmas *contradictary*

Celebrating Christmas for the sake of celebration IS NOT contradictory. How can it be?

[gigiopolis]

I have friends that claim they're atheist and still celebrate Christmas *contradictary*

Well...Christmas really has long lost all its religious meaning, now it's just one big marketing event of the year.

[potmonkeyjd]

I still feel that Christmas and Easter are about God and Jesus, and If you say your Athiest and Celebrate because of the presents and treats you get your being a hippacrite *SP* sworry

[gigiopolis]

^ No you're not. Not if you view Christmas as a commercial holiday, one in which you recieve presents. If you view Christmas as such, you aren't a hypocrite for being atheist, because then you'd think Christmas, to you, has nothing to do with God. Atheists don't even believe in God, therefore Christmas is not about God, therefore they are not hypocrites.

People who are religious and only celebrate Christmas for the gifts are hypocrties.

[Spirited Away]

I still feel that Christmas and Easter are about God and Jesus, and If you say your Athiest and Celebrate because of the presents and treats you get your being a hippacrite *SP* sworry

Go kill yourself now. I don't see how some Christians could live with such condemnation towards others and say that their job is to spread God's love. You want pure hypocrisy? I just provided the example.

If you want to learn more about the ORIGINS of Christmas or debate about it, please refer to the thread titled "you can't have it both ways!!!!".

Though, I don't see how one could argue against facts of history.

[Ington]

Well, there may be a God for different religions, but even though they are called by the same name, it doesn't mean that they're the same in nature.

Actually, no, the 'God of the Christians' and the 'God of the Jews' really are the same God. Jesus was Jewish, and supposedly came from the God of the Jews. Its the same God, just celebrated differently.

[sammi rules you]

well, jews don't believe jesus is their savior so..it may be different. i can't be sure though, i haven't attended enough temple services to know for sure.

[ShEraBaRoO]

:::DELETE:::

f**k it....not tryin to argue about god again...

then dont argue about GOD. dont leave a foul comment too.

[*tweeak*]

well, jews don't believe jesus is their savior so..it may be different. i can't be sure though, i haven't attended enough temple services to know for sure.

theyre both monotheistic, which is almost a similarity enough, but Christianity branched off Judaism. Jesus was Jewish, and so it only makes sense for Christians and Jews to believe in the same God. while Christians also believe in God as the trinity- father, son, and holy spirit, its still the same thing. is this making sense?

[gigiopolis]

Actually, no, the 'God of the Christians' and the 'God of the Jews' really are the same God. Jesus was Jewish, and supposedly came from the God of the Jews. Its the same God, just celebrated differently.

I wasn't referring to only Jews and Christians. There are more than two religions that believe in God, you know.

[f4113n]

this isn't my opinion, this is written clearly in black and white in the constitution, first amendment:

FREEDOM OF SPEECH

meaning that people can say OMG however many times they want to. if a teacher forbids you from saying it, then they are doing something unconstitutional.

[racoons > you]

theyre both monotheistic, which is almost a similarity enough, but Christianity branched off Judaism. Jesus was Jewish, and so it only makes sense for Christians and Jews to believe in the same God. while Christians also believe in God as the trinity- father, son, and holy spirit, its still the same thing. is this making sense?

Jews and Christians worship the same god

Christians believe that theGOd has sent a svior already, i.e Jesus. where as jews are still waiting
but they both worsship the GOd the old teastament

[innovation]

meh, i'll get back to you during senior, when i'm taking IB world religions.

[*tweeak*]

Jews and Christians worship the same god

Christians believe that theGOd has sent a svior already, i.e Jesus. where as jews are still waiting
but they both worsship the GOd the old teastament

yes, im aware

[f4113n]

Jews and Christians worship the same god

Christians believe that theGOd has sent a svior already, i.e Jesus. where as jews are still waiting
but they both worsship the GOd the old teastament

im confused, will someone please tell me that if jews and christians worship the same god, why do you have to kill each other and fight so many wars against each other? correct me if im wrong, cuz im atheist nd dont no much about religion, but isnt one of the ten commandments "thou shalt not kill", yet christians and jews kill each other?

[innovation]

im confused, will someone please tell me that if jews and christians worship the same god, why do you have to kill each other and fight so many wars against each other? correct me if im wrong, cuz im atheist nd dont no much about religion, but isnt one of the ten commandments "thou shalt not kill", yet christians and jews kill each other?

they felt that they were killing to uphold the glory of God.
and as the model united nations dork stated, Christians believe that Jesus Christ's resurrection brought the world salvation. however, the Jews scorned Jesus and claim that they are still waiting the "The Messiah."

[racoons > you]

and as the model united nations dork stated, Christians believe that Jesus Christ's resurrection brought the world salvation. however, the Jews scorned Jesus and claim that they are still waiting the "The Messiah."

is that me... lol

i am a dork. i've come to terms with it

but yes, they worship the same God, but have different ideas on whether or not certain prophecies have been fulfilled

[azn_r4pf4n]

all right, i haven't came to this debate in a while, but yall convinced me manz..


it's really impossible trying to ban it. try making a new years resolution to try your best to avoid swearing God's name in vain. yep; it's hard. Took me lots of months too.

you can keep this debate going if you want to, but these r my points when i wanted it to be banned:

- School promises ur kid is gonna be safe. They promise to try their best to make sure nobody is offended b/c of their race/religion.

I'm sure you're asking: There isn't that many Evangilistic children, so why ban it? There isn't that many Amish and they got their deal on not letting their children go to school b/c it's against their religion.

as i said b4, im convinced that it's impossible for it to be banned.