merry f*cking christmas. Options

[waccoon]

Yay for the most materialistic day of the year. This is by far the stupidest time of year. How did Christmas come to trading gifts? Christmas was about celebrating the birth of Christ, no? Why is this day only about exchanging gifts?
Anyways, merry f*cking christmas. Don't get run over.

There's your f**king Christmas spirit, Santa. Bite me.

[Heathasm]

*bite*
merry christmas you!

[inthemudhole]

Yeah... Christmas surely isn't what it should be..
Greedy bastards.

[gigiopolis]

I remember reading the other thread about "You can't have it both ways", meaning you can't be Anti-Christian and celebrate Christmas either. Well, Christmas isn't even about Christ anymore, so yes, you can have both.

Christmas has lost all meaning. It's just made of money, evil and greed.

[shortiiex]

have a MERRY FU*KING CHRISTMAS to you too

[imm]

Gosh seriously. I didn't give anyone presents because of that. I hate that non-Christians celebrate Christmas, they don't know what the f**k it is. I don't care if Christmas is all about corporate whores making money, I'll celebrate it for what it is thank you very much, so I won't say "Happy Christmas." I'll say Happy Birthday Jesus.

Ok if you're not Christian, I respect that, but don't get f**king offended by my opinions already.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Whats with the negativism? You're out of school for a few weeks, that's not bs at all.

[whomps]

Wait, I had a point in this.. Stop ruining eveybody's fun =o I'm not Christian and I celebrate Christmas. I might as well call it open presents day.

Edit//
And Jesus wasn't born on Christmas! Yeah yeah, that was my point.

[waccoon]

Whats with the negativism? You're out of school for a few weeks, that's not bs at all.

One week.

[*x____duckii*]

I only celebrate Xmas for the presents — wait, is that bad? Yeah, well you can blame Santa for the presents too.

[Yemmerz]

I'll bite you Nick. Just ask.


Well, we always were exchanging gifts on Christmas since the 3 Wise men gave Jesus 3 gifts...as I remember...so yeah.

[DaTru KataLYST]

One week.

I've got 2 weeks, but uh, better than 0 weeks of vacation

[ghjgfkgfk]

Gosh seriously. I didn't give anyone presents because of that. I hate that non-Christians celebrate Christmas, they don't know what the f**k it is. I don't care if Christmas is all about corporate whores making money, I'll celebrate it for what it is thank you very much, so I won't say "Happy Christmas." I'll say Happy Birthday Jesus.

Ok if you're not Christian, I respect that, but don't get f**king offended by my opinions already.

it's been proven that jesus was born around april 17.

[pikimoo]

Whoever said Christmas is about greed.. I disagree with you.

I'd rather give than receive. As would many other people.

And you know what? I can celebrate Christ and give presents at the same time.

[*Kathleen*]

it's been proven that jesus was born around april 17.

Yeah...we celebrate Christmas on the twenty-fifth of December because the powerful Christians in Rome desperately wanted those who still celebrated Saturnalia to convert to Christianity. They ended up changing the date to the same day as Saturnalia. But back to the topic...bleh...presents make me happy...I admit I'm materialistic. Meh. I never get what I want, anyways. I hate gathering with family, too. I wish Christmas didn't exist.

[Spirited Away]

One week.

One month.

[SarahxJoy]

One week.

Two weeks.

And anywho, Christ got presents when he is born.
Wouldn't be greedy of him if we couldn't have any either?
Besides, it's just to lift up spirits and have fun.
Enjoy it.

[mirage]

wow, negative energy... it's not exactly our fault that we non christians celebrate christmas our way. Vacation and giving n' recieving, can't get better than that.

[Skyline Drive]

yeah. enough said.

[EXPLO5ION]

Two weeks.

same with me.

HAPPY FRICKEN CHRISTMAS

[sharerol]

I got two weeks. Well anyways, merry f*cking Christmas to you too! =]

[Shattered_Hope]

Meh, I thought Jesus was born during the fall. But to me, I celebrate Christmas because of Santa not because of Christ. So heh, it's not really wrong of me to give presents and receive them in return, I don't find it selfish or anything greedy of the sort.. but heh, my opinion, but merry f*cking christmas to you too.

[jr0h]

lol merry christmas to you guys too

[*stephinika*]

heh merry f*cking christmas to you too. i don't really seem to celebrate anymore. its just an excuse off of school...

[sm0kinm0nky]

theres a song called merry fking christmas from southpark lol

[largosama]

If we didn't have off from christmas in school, that's alot of complaining and protesting by the parents o.O

[iheartsimba]

i dont care about how it origionated..i dont know if this is jesus's bday or easter =/ but w.e. its fun..thats what i like about it its just exciting, plus i like the presents =X. we even get time off from school for it, i'm not gonna complain about it

[xquizit]

The Christmas tradition of gifts and giving is based on the story of the three wise men bringing gifts to baby Jesus.

Christmas is not based on "money, evil, and greed", at least not for everyone. It depends on how you and your family or friends celebrate it.

Anyhow, Merry Christmas everyone.

[waccoon]

The Christmas tradition of gifts and giving is based on the story of the three wise men bringing gifts to baby Jesus.

Christmas is not based on "money, evil, and greed", at least not for everyone. It depends on how you and your family or friends celebrate it.

Anyhow, Merry Christmas everyone.

So then, what is the point of Christmas?

Almost everybody celebrates Christmas for no reason.

[*Azarel*]

There's your f**king Christmas spirit, Santa. Bite me.

*gnaws on your shoulder*

This is exactly how I feel about Christmas. I've already told you. After all, what is the meaning of Christmas?

[shortvi3tlaydee]

i think it was the stores evil schem [sp?] to cheat people of their money well merry christmas to you too

[xquizit]

So then, what is the point of Christmas?

Almost everybody celebrates Christmas for no reason.

Well, from a Christian's point of view, Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, hence, Christmas.

[killua]

well i agree wif the fact that we celebrate the birth of jesus.. but we trade gifts because i think the 3 wise men or the magis gave gifts to see the birth of the messiah =P

[AZNmonkeyx3]

I remember reading the other thread about "You can't have it both ways", meaning you can't be Anti-Christian and celebrate Christmas either. Well, Christmas isn't even about Christ anymore, so yes, you can have both.

Christmas has lost all meaning. It's just made of money, evil and greed.

christmas is STILL all about christ....people juss dun remember that its about christ and they juss think about the stupid presents they get...im not gonna complain about it cuz you get all the things you could......you get presents, school off, spending time wif yor family....what else do you want?
n e who........merry christmas to everybody!

[HaN4RaNg]

Yay for the most materialistic day of the year. This is by far the stupidest time of year. How did Christmas come to trading gifts? Christmas was about celebrating the birth of Christ, no? Why is this day only about exchanging gifts?
Anyways, merry f*cking christmas. Don't get run over.

There's your f**king Christmas spirit, Santa. Bite me.

rofl. ur right, it HAS become the most materialistic day of the year. its a shame that people forget the meaning of Christmas.

none the less, Merry Christmas everybody.

Well, Christmas isn't even about Christ anymore, so yes, you can have both.

says those who have no faith in Christ and those who reject the true meaning of Christmas.

Christmas is still about Christ. Opinions on this does not matter. It will ALWAYS be about Christ because thats what Christmas IS about, not what people THINK.

[MAXpowers1023]

yes give us christmas back!!!!!!! if you want christ out of christmas then go to hell! you want to have a day where you give gifts and celabrate a time where most people are overcome with greed? then create one...and call something else besides CHRISTmas!

[Spirited Away]

And once more:

Christmas is about the birth of Christ, December 25th, however, is only about Christ for the sake of conversion. Therefore, just celebrate the way you want.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to Christians, and Happy Holidays to the rest of us~~!

If you want non-Christians to not say Merry CHRISTmas, then copyright/trademark the word.

[xj_liana_tx]

christmas is just another sucky day when stores are all closed and you sit on your ass at home while watching reruns...

[azn_r4pf4n]

oh noo... yikes.

Yes, Christmas is about the birth of Christ and spending time with loved ones, but it was once only a holiday just to "chill and have fun," during the 4th century. The belief and story of "The Birth of Christ" was commercialized during the early 20th century. go research the history about Christmas (if you find results about the Birth of Christ, keep searching, cuz it wasnt all about the Birth of Christ, but they made it like that during the early 20th century. Many ppl arent even aware of the history.)

Merry Christmas all, and remember, Christmas is all about family, friends, and love.

**EDIT**

Wait.. i found the history. IGNORE THE POST ABOUT THE 4TH CENTURY ABOVE.
The History of Christmas
This should explain some confusion. I can't believe i read the newspaper to see that it originated from the 4th century.

[HaN4RaNg]

wana know something cool? candy canes r shaped the way they are because when u turn them upside down, it makes a J. J for Jesus =]

[no, its not a coincidence. the inventor actually made it to form a J]

once again, Happy Holidays everybody

[lilaznpeter]

all my friends think of christmas is presents.

[MAXpowers1023]

If you want non-Christians to not say Merry CHRISTmas, then copyright/trademark the word.

i dont care what you say...I actually enjoy hearing the word comming out of your heathen mouths. i'm just saying...you all want to have freedom of this and that..but then you attack christians for our beliefs...we have the freedom of the religion...so stop trying to inhibit it.

[DaTru KataLYST]

heathen is such a strong/harsh word. it's like loathing. You're going to make it a cliche. And that isn't good for my english essays.

[MAXpowers1023]

heathen is such a strong/harsh word. it's like loathing. You're going to make it a cliche. And that isn't good for my english essays.

hea·then Pronunciation Key (hthn)
n. pl. hea·thens or heathen

1.
1. One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.
2. Such persons considered as a group; the unconverted.
2.
1. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
2. Such persons considered as a group.

it was appropriately used....

[Spirited Away]

i dont care what you say...I actually enjoy hearing the word comming out of your heathen mouths. i'm just saying...you all want to have freedom of this and that..but then you attack christians for our beliefs...we have the freedom of the religion...so stop trying to inhibit it.

I attack... when?

More like, I defend myself against self-righteous Christians who forget that the message of God is love, not seperation.

And please, you're talking to this one heathen, do not generalize me. I don't attack unless I'm provoked. Quite civilized way of approaching things unlike how Christians waged wars in the past for the sake of conversion.

On another note, I love being called a heathen . Suits me fine. However, on the definition of heathens being uncivilized/unenlightened, haha, I would actually have to test out what is your definition of being uncivilized/unelightened.

Anyway, like I said, if you like hearing "Christmas" from us infidels, then why did you complained about us calling it "CHRISTMas"? But once more, if you have a problem with it, copyright it, or else f**k off.

[DaTru KataLYST]

I do believe 'heathen' has a negative connotation.

I do believe Christians are suppose to have love for others.

Negative connotations ain't so hot in the field of loving others.

[Spirited Away]

I do believe 'heathen' has a negative connotation.

Yes, yes it does, but I do not deny that which defines a part of me.

I do believe Christians are suppose to have love for others.

You believe right, however, self-righteous Christians differ from good Christians because they have only love for themselves.

Negative connotations ain't so hot in the field of loving others.

*Nods*.

[inlonelinessidie]

Actually it's a Pagan holiday. The traditions are all Pagan, but the origin is Christian because of the birth of Christ. You can celebrate Jesus' birth and not exchange gifts at all. Or you exchange gifts and do it the Pagan way and not ever remember the birth of Christ. Or you can do both; exchange gifts and remember "the reason for the season".

Happy Christmas, and don't be so bitter.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

^ Amen

[DaTru KataLYST]

Actually it's a Pagan holiday. The traditions are all Pagan, but the origin is Christian because of the birth of Christ. You can celebrate Jesus' birth and not exchange gifts at all. Or you exchange gifts and do it the Pagan way and not ever remember the birth of Christ. Or you can do both; exchange gifts and remember "the reason for the season".

Happy Christmas, and don't be so bitter.

thank u =]

[miss barnes]

well i enjoyed christmas now...esp since is 11 pm and i just opened the ones from my mama

[MAXpowers1023]

I attack... when?

Anyway, like I said, if you like hearing "Christmas" from us infidels, then why did you complained about us calling it "CHRISTMas"? But once more, if you have a problem with it, copyright it, or else f**k off.

i wasnt talking about you...sorry for not being clear. i was talking about atheist/ non-christians, who try to remove god from everything...and feel they must change everything that is christian.

and the comment i made about "CHRISTmas" was about people changing the intended meaning of the day...i said if you want a day for gift-giving and greed....then create a new holiday..and name it something else...

read before you comment...you wont look quite inane.

[MAXpowers1023]

On another note, I love being called a heathen . Suits me fine. However, on the definition of heathens being uncivilized/unenlightened, haha, I would actually have to test out what is your definition of being uncivilized/unelightened.

1. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, OR unenlightened.

i was refering to the part of the definition that says irreligious.

[DaTru KataLYST]

i wasnt talking about you...sorry for not being clear. i was talking about atheist/ non-christians, who try to remove god from everything...and feel they must change everything that is christian.

and the comment i made about "CHRISTmas" was about people changing the intended meaning of the day...i said if you want a day for gift-giving and greed....then create a new holiday..and name it something else...

read before you comment...you wont look quite inane.

and yet you believe in Christianity, you still choose to use the word "heathen" and even say it was used appropriately. O.o Once again, negative connotations and love for others don't mix.

[krispy_kreme333]

i learned that jesus' birthday was sometime in the fall like september or something but im really noticing that to most people christmas is only about gifts and getting the right gifts and rushing to the stores to find that perfect gift and that isnt what christmas is really about and its jsut sad that the world has created a new meaning for christmas.

[MAXpowers1023]

and yet you believe in Christianity, you still choose to use the word "heathen" and even say it was used appropriately. O.o Once again, negative connotations and love for others don't mix.

the word "b1tch" has a negative connotation...unless you mean a female dog. it all depends on the intent of the person who used the word... i did not use it to name call. i was simply using it as a title for those who are irreligious...

i love you and all those who hate me...you dont know me enough to justifiably question how i behave as a christian.

[DaTru KataLYST]

the word "b1tch" has a negative connotation...unless you mean a female dog. it all depends on the intent of the person who used the word... i did not use it to name call. i was simply using it as a title for those who are irreligious...

i love you and all those who hate me...you dont know me enough to justifiably question how i behave as a christian.

You don't notice your subtle hints of hate towards 'heathens'?

[JlIaTMK]

thats why the christmas thats orthodox's or the original is the one thats not about gift giving and about the birth of christ

haha and this is a south park song that i was just listening to to today

[*wind&fire*]

yea i agree effing comercialism

[DaTru KataLYST]

didnt dennis leary make a song like this too?

[MAXpowers1023]

You don't notice your subtle hints of hate towards 'heathens'?

hate? i wouldnt say that i hate anyone...but i hate the attitudes that some people possess. i love everybody...for the people they are.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Kewl, we'll leave it at that.

[MAXpowers1023]

Kewl, we'll leave it at that.

[*wind&fire*]

^ are you hittting on him or is there something in you eye?

[roberts_pink_dru...]

can't say merry christmas know.. it was over 6 minutes ago..

[DaTru KataLYST]

can't say merry christmas know.. it was over 6 minutes ago..

i still have an hour and 52 minutes left to say it.

[LuvsDogs387]

Its still Christmas here so MARRY CHRISTMAS

[xTINAA]

yeah christmas is too materialistic and has lost it`s true meaning. but to me, i still celebrate the true meaning so i don`t care about how everyone else treats the holiday. if they want to be greedy & selfish, let them.

[MAXpowers1023]

^ are you hittting on him or is there something in you eye?

a little of both!

[krispy_kreme333]

a little of both!

haha

[jambaJUICE]

Three weeks of forgetting all the stuff teachers made me cram in the last week of school, then relearning it all again as soon as I come back.

Whoop-E.

As for Christmas?
It's really just like any other day of the week, month, year.
Except that I go to church the day before, the day, and the next day.

[MAXpowers1023]

Three weeks of forgetting all the stuff teachers made me cram in the last week of school, then relearning it all again as soon as I come back.

i always hated that....

[jambaJUICE]

i always hated that....

Hell yeah, it sucks ass for me this time too.

I have high school test exams AND academic decathalon to add to the regular stuff. and i dont know how to do math


POOP!

[MAXpowers1023]

POOP!

yes...verry poop

[waccoon]

yes...verry poop

Stop spamming. This is your last and only warning.

Its still Christmas here so MARRY CHRISTMAS

But I don't want to marry it.

[*AngelicEyz00*]

everyone's spamming, warn them all, not just him

[wonmin]

Yay for the most materialistic day of the year. This is by far the stupidest time of year. How did Christmas come to trading gifts? Christmas was about celebrating the birth of Christ, no? Why is this day only about exchanging gifts?
Anyways, merry f*cking christmas. Don't get run over.

There's your f**king Christmas spirit, Santa. Bite me.

maybe if you change your f**kin attitude..
you might appreciate the joy of giving...

oh yeah, and merry christmas

[DaTru KataLYST]

maybe if you change your f**kin attitude..
you might appreciate the joy of giving...

oh yeah, and merry christmas

i wonder how nick is going to react.


o and to maxpowers:

[ichiban]

Merry Effing Christmas back at you.

[waccoon]

maybe if you change your f**kin attitude..
you might appreciate the joy of giving...

oh yeah, and merry christmas

The joy of giving? Is that what Christmas is about? Giving? What about the people that have nothing to give? What can they give? Love? Are you honestly satisfied with love as a gift?

That question was to you, personally. Are you satisfied when you recieve NOTHING but love on Christmas?

[kevinma03]

The joy of giving? Is that what Christmas is about? Giving? What about the people that have nothing to give? What can they give? Love? Are you honestly satisfied with love as a gift?

That question was to you, personally. Are you satisfied when you recieve NOTHING but love on Christmas?

I think its more about giving to others, especially those less fortunate than you. Obviously its been exploited by the free market but that is unavoidable. Rather than sitting at home and wishing people a "merry f*cking christmas", you should go volunteer at a homeless shelter or donate to a charity.

[DaTru KataLYST]

The joy of giving? Is that what Christmas is about? Giving? What about the people that have nothing to give? What can they give? Love? Are you honestly satisfied with love as a gift?

That question was to you, personally. Are you satisfied when you recieve NOTHING but love on Christmas?

I thot the spirit of Christmas was to spend time with loved ones and friends.

[waccoon]

I think its more about giving to others, especially those less fortunate than you. Obviously its been exploited by the free market but that is unavoidable. Rather than sitting at home and wishing people a "merry f*cking christmas", you should go volunteer at a homeless shelter or donate to a charity.

There aren't any homeless shelters or any humanitarian-worthy causes that I can attend because my mother wouldn't allow it. If I could, I would. I have donated some of my books to the children's charity, but I honestly do not have anything to give them. Money? I don't have much of that. Time? I'd like to, but I can't.

[kevinma03]

There aren't any homeless shelters or any humanitarian-worthy causes that I can attend because my mother wouldn't allow it. If I could, I would. I have donated some of my books to the children's charity, but I honestly do not have anything to give them. Money? I don't have much of that. Time? I'd like to, but I can't.

So your mom doesn't allow you to volunteer for any kind of charity?

[waccoon]

So your mom doesn't allow you to volunteer for any kind of charity?

She thinks I'm off to smoke weed or something like that, even when I propse she escort me there.

[kevinma03]

She thinks I'm off to smoke weed or something like that, even when I propse she escort me there.

Interesting. You're going to have to start volunteering sooner or later since it's pretty important on college applications. You should tell your mom that

[waccoon]

Interesting. You're going to have to start volunteering sooner or later since it's pretty important on college applications. You should tell your mom that

Yes, I've acknowledged that. I'm doing my best to convince her, to no avail.

[kevinma03]

Yes, I've acknowledged that. I'm doing my best to convince her, to no avail.

Your mom doesn't care about your future?

[waccoon]

Your mom doesn't care about your future?

She doesn't believe me when I say they're a significant factor when it comes to college admissions. My schedule doesn't exactly leave me with time to volunteer, either. I go to school until 5:30 PM. I don't even have enough time to go to the gym, I'm forced to go late-night.

[kevinma03]

She doesn't believe me when I say they're a significant factor when it comes to college admissions. My schedule doesn't exactly leave me with time to volunteer, either. I go to school until 5:30 PM. I don't even have enough time to go to the gym, I'm forced to go late-night.

Hmm you should probably have her talk to a counselor , anyways this is completely off on a tangent from what we were talking about

[waccoon]

Hmm you should probably have her talk to a counselor , anyways this is completely off on a tangent from what we were talking about

*cough* Yeah, I'm waiting for wonmin to reply.

[SarahxJoy]

Okay, re-reading over this topic I've come to a conclusion:

For the most part, Christmas has indeed lost its meaning. Maybe not for everyone, because my family and I still celebrate it as the birth of Jesus Christ our savior. People may have their own version of how this holiday came to be, and how they celebrate it is of their own will. There is no certain way that people of Christianity or as of any other religion for that matter, since even non-Christians participate in this event, have to celebrate it.

It's just horrid to see how we've come so far as to ruining it for some people and filling heads with the thoughts of presents underneath your little Christmas trees and comparing them with that of others. Greed and money do take part in this event because of greed and money.

Bottom line.
Christmas has lost its truth for most who only think of presents.
People have the freedom to celebrate this occasion in any fashion they see fit.

Pfft, forget armagedon.
We can end the world ourselves it seems.

[DaTru KataLYST]

*cough* Yeah, I'm waiting for wonmin to reply.

i doubt he'll come back to read this.

he has an AIM tho.

[waccoon]

i doubt he'll come back to read this.

he has an AIM tho.

Well, I'm not about to IM him. >_>

Okay, re-reading over this topic I've come to a conclusion:

For the most part, Christmas has indeed lost its meaning. Maybe not for everyone, because my family and I still celebrate it as the birth of Jesus Christ our savior. People may have their own version of how this holiday came to be, and how they celebrate it is of their own will. There is no certain way that people of Christianity or as of any other religion for that matter, since even non-Christians participate in this event, have to celebrate it.

It's just horrid to see how we've come so far as to ruining it for some people and filling heads with the thoughts of presents underneath your little Christmas trees and comparing them with that of others. Greed and money do take part in this event because of greed and money.

Bottom line.
Christmas has lost its truth for most who only think of presents.
People have the freedom to celebrate this occasion in any fashion they see fit.

Pfft, forget armagedon.
We can end the world ourselves it seems. 

Yes yes, you are absolutely correct.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Well, I'm not about to IM him. >_>

::cues the Heinz Ketchup 'Anticipation' commercial::

[gigiopolis]

I'd rather give than receive. As would many other people.

I beg to differ.

[Spirited Away]

i wasnt talking about you...sorry for not being clear. i was talking about atheist/ non-christians, who try to remove god from everything...and feel they must change everything that is christian.

and the comment i made about "CHRISTmas" was about people changing the intended meaning of the day...i said if you want a day for gift-giving and greed....then create a new holiday..and name it something else...

read before you comment...you wont look quite inane.

No, love, for the hundredth time on cB, I can read just fine. Infact, I have superb reading skills. I thought you included me in your little generalization, that's why I said don't generalized me in this comment:

I actually enjoy hearing the word comming out of your heathen mouths. i'm just saying...you all want to have freedom of this and that..but then you attack christians for our beliefs..

Like I said, I can read well, it's how you present the material that confuses the reader.

You said yourself that you weren't clear so I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me names when the fault is yours.

So, write well before you expect a person to read and not get the wrong idea, ne?

1. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, OR unenlightened.

i was refering to the part of the definition that says irreligious.

Then perhaps you'll know to exclude the definition that isn't quite relevant to the discussion next time?

[wonmin]

The joy of giving? Is that what Christmas is about? Giving? What about the people that have nothing to give? What can they give? Love? Are you honestly satisfied with love as a gift?

That question was to you, personally. Are you satisfied when you recieve NOTHING but love on Christmas?

hahah..
well i am totally satisfied with getting nothing for christmas.
i didnt receive anything for christmas and i am perfectly okay with it.
and yes, christmas is about the joy of giving.. and the gift God gave to us.
Everybody has something to give, you are the one who are being materialistic.

The real question out of all this is, are YOU satisfied when you receive nothing but love on Christmas?

and i agree that the people who doesnt believe in the birth of christ shouldnt celebrate christmas. and yeah, the fact that they are celebrating something they dont believe in piss me off too.

[kevinma03]

hahah..
well i am totally satisfied with getting nothing for christmas.
i didnt receive anything for christmas and i am perfectly okay with it.
and yes, christmas is about the joy of giving.. and the gift God gave to us.
Everybody has something to give, you are the one who are being materialistic.

The real question out of all this is, are YOU satisfied when you receive nothing but love on Christmas?

and i agree that the people who doesnt believe in the birth of christ shouldnt celebrate christmas. and yeah, the fact that they are celebrating something they dont believe in piss me off too.

What if they are participating in the joy of giving?

[aznbabiicutie]

i'm not Christian and i celebrate christmas.. x[