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StereoTypes, asians and school
emmalie
post Dec 9 2004, 09:02 PM
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hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ermm.gif

Alot of people I know associate asians with being super smart..or reallii good at math ..Do you know anyone who gets mad because of this stereotype or it just doesnt matter ?


Just in case..im not Asian im Dominican ( hispanic ) and this isnt the way i feel towards asians just a simple question.
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:06 PM
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hmm...yes..i mean no, I don't know anyone who gets mad, but yes, that'as true lol...I don't think people should stereotype....it's disrespectful, i think, anyways, I'm a straight A student and I'm not asian. I'm hispanic (=
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:17 PM
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quote from a friend "your the most stereotype-racist i know"
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:18 PM
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I'm Asian and most of the time yes I get A's on things. But usually I get 1 B on my report card.

Anyway, often I get A's, other other half of the time, I get B's. I've gotten C's on things before.. But it doesn't bring my grades down too much.. I'm trying to be a striaght A student, but there's always 1 teacher who can't teach and screws everyone over. stubborn.gif

Anyway, I know people that ask me for things everyday. I don't mind if it's my friends because usually, my friends would help me out when I need it the most. Thus, I think it's balanced out. But There's others who go and always ask me to let them copy this and that, asking me for the answers to the test... Yea, sometimes I do have answers for tests (yes, sometimes I do cheat), but even so, I had to do something in order to get those answers. Such as letting them copy something or helping them out with something, and they help me. Or I got a friend to teach me something to help me with a test because I was confused, and then some people would ask to copy my paper..

I'm sort of a pushover, thus I end up letting them.. sometimes I might say no, and I don't let them. tongue.gif

But most of the time, I know what I'm doing, so they might ask me about it and whatnot.
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:36 PM
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It doesn't piss me off...why would I be pissed off at a stereotype that makes me look smart?

And for the most part, it's true. For some odd reason, a LOT of Asians are very talented in math. It's weird. =\ Only the extremely Americanized Asians don't do as well. I honestly wonder why. That's just weird logic.

I get annoyed when people ask me questions about homework or concepts in something. I get annoyed at anyone who doesn't take school seriously and slacks off...unfortunately I'm just not as nice as Just_Dream is. pinch.gif That's one of my resolutions though...stop being such a b*tch about everything.
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:41 PM
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It doesn't make me mad when I hear it.

I prove the stereotype wrong sometimes when it comes to my grades. I get extremely lazy sometimes...*shrug*

It just doesn't matter. It's true in some cases, and it's not in others. People are generally smart in their own way~
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:52 PM
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Hmm, not offensive, unless you call us asians Geeky a$$ nerds or whatever. But i my school is smart as hell so...i guess we're all nerds here.
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:57 PM
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its the same as how people talk about white people and doing crazy things, or middle easterns and osama bin laden, and how people think of the whole black people and "bling"... i hate all of them... they get on my nerves _dry.gif
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:58 PM
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Why would you get mad at people for thinking you're super smart? ermm.gif
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 10:00 PM
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im korean but im not good at math at all.i totally suck at math. but lately ive been doing good but not all asians r smart or good at math.

i don really take it offencive just when ppl ask me if im chinese. i have nothing against chinese ppl im juss sayin it kinda makes me mad cuz ppl ASSUME that korean ppl are the same as chinese. not really.

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post Dec 9 2004, 10:01 PM
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i have no idea. i think there are like a couple asians in my school & none of them have classes w/ me
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Dec 9 2004, 9:58 PM)
Why would you get mad at people for thinking you're super smart? ermm.gif

ha true.

but everybodys like oh yeah shes asian, she probably got a 100. kinda annoying.
 
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post Dec 9 2004, 10:13 PM
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Nope. Ppl at our school think were stupid. cause were the “ghetto” Asian peeps that hang out at the east yard. But we all maintain a nice gpa. Sure I drop my grades now and then, but I must say that I suck at algebra. _dry.gif

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post Dec 9 2004, 10:16 PM
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Our school stereotypes asians as being smart... But then again our school is 60% asian. Stupid school also kicks out people without an acceptable GPA so everyone in my school basically is smart. Which sucks cause a gpa of 3.90 could rank 20th while a gpa of 3.84 could bring u down to like rank 30 or something.
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 01:03 AM
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yeah it is a major stereotype but there are many others for the other races too. and usually the asian stereotype of being smart and good at math is only a stereotype because of how most asians act towards their school work. they try to work really really really hard because trust me, asian parents are hella strict about school and grades and crap. and no i don`t really know anyone that gets totally offended by it, just annoyed. i think that it gets annoying and possibly offensive when a person relates everything they say and that happens, to stereotypes. like i know a kid who will be like, "oh it`s because i`m asian huh?" "you don`t get straight A`s?..omg but you`re asian!!" and says stuff like that all the time. that`s when it`s time to say stfu =) haha
ohh one more thing, haha i think most people who talk about stereotypes and racist remarks and such, (like that one kid i was talking about) talk about it so much because them, themselves make a lot of stereotypes and might actually believe in them.
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 01:06 AM
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my school for sure! but it doesnt cause any major problems. haha. im chinese and im not artistic or good at math! but people say i am happy.gif it's all in good fun
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 04:41 AM
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*lol* I'm Asian and I'm certainly not good at Maths... well at least that's what I think.
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 09:21 AM
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i don't think all asians are really smart or really good at math.
there are a lot of asians that go to my school, and only some are really smart and good at math.. i'm asian, but i don't think i'm really good at math, and i'm not saying that i'm really smart either. i'd say i'd fall in between with the average people. :)
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 09:31 AM
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well then i wouldnt fit the description...lol im failing _smile.gif
but i could care less, cuz i no i can do it lol and i bet YOU'D b failing too if you attended about 10 days of school in a term...lol
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(xquizit @ Dec 9 2004, 9:58 PM)
Why would you get mad at people for thinking you're super smart? ermm.gif

well you know how some teenagers are they rather be considered as the rebel who doesnt give a fˇck about anything than the smart guy who you can copy all your homework from.
 
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(uhhh wats a sterotype uhh preson or thing?)
 
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Ahh. It's sort of half and half for me. One half is like hey, i'm glad i'm being known as a smart person happy.gif but the other, i get annoyed. Because if i get a B or something, these people will go " OMG! BUT YOU'RE ASIAN! aha you're one of the STUPID asians!" _dry.gif
 
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QUOTE(emmalie @ Dec 10 2004, 12:58 PM)
well you know how some teenagers are they rather be considered as the rebel who doesnt give a fˇck about anything than the smart guy who you can copy all your homework from.

omgz, cuz datz so kewl.
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 05:05 PM
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Personally, I'm horrible in math, but I do make up for it in other classes that I happen to do well in. People from my school do make that stereotype that because I'm Asian, I'm automatically SUPER SMART! Wrong. It almost makes me feel bad when they copy off my homework because they end up getting a 42 .. hahaha. shifty.gif Then they completely blame me for it. stubborn.gif
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 06:24 PM
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My school doesn't strerotype by ethenticity.. or race.

It's usually either how rich you are..
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 06:32 PM
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eh,
over here..
it's like, everyone's racist.
Especially against asian people...
It's all " asians can't drive. "
" asians are good at math "
" asians have sars "
" asians are short "

And it annoys me so much.
Cause they say this in front of my face.
And other racist crap that I won't get in to.
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 06:37 PM
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hey asians are cool. lol yeah i get you but the only thing i hear now is Asian girls are hot. and well they are.
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 06:51 PM
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well, it's hard cuz i am asian, i am good at math and a lot of subject... the thing that sucks is everyone EXPECT you to do good, when you do bad in ONE test, they are like, man, anissa didn't do well, blah blah blah, so it gets annoying sometimes. So you have a lot of pressure to do good everytime... yeah, it seems easy and great if you look from the outside, but if you are one of those geniuses, it's hard. wacko.gif
 
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see what i mean, lol that Kelly Chen chick is hot. =o
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 06:59 PM
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see what i mean, lol that Kelly Chen chick is hot. =o

LOLZ, yes, she is hot indeed =)
 
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post Dec 10 2004, 07:09 PM
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Yeah i agree. I for once do not think asians are the smartest race around. Everyone is equally smart. I know because i have alot of asian friends as well as black,hispanic and so on. If any kind was that smart then why bother going to high school? Why not skip to college? Hm? i have asians in my family and they ain't that smart;-P lol,p3ce
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post Dec 10 2004, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(AzNxJenny91 @ Dec 10 2004, 6:32 PM)
It's all " asians can't drive. "

You know, I really don't understand how anyone could come to that conclusion...
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 01:59 AM
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i don't know, but i have 3 asian peeps in my 1st class, and there wicked smart (like me) lol in math. some people usually get jealous fast at us, so yeah, we like shut them up. stupid people "EWWWW i don't know what it's like to be an "ASIAN" what faggots you are! YOU GUYS ARE THE STUPID ASIANS!" wtf? you don't judge us by our ethenticity. arghhh... people these days
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(mirage @ Dec 10 2004, 3:51 PM)
well, it's hard cuz i am asian, i am good at math and a lot of subject... the thing that sucks is everyone EXPECT you to do good, when you do bad in ONE test, they are like, man, anissa didn't do well, blah blah blah, so it gets annoying sometimes. So you have a lot of pressure to do good everytime... yeah, it seems easy and great if you look from the outside, but if you are one of those geniuses, it's hard. wacko.gif

Actually, now that I think about it, IMO, this is from person to person. If you build a rep that you're smart at the beginning of the year, people will t hink you are smart, regardless of your race. (at least, at my school it's like this) So people just, automatically ASSUME you are smart.

I hate it that people EXPECT me to be smart, and when I do something wrong they almost get PISSED at me. It's really hard to have all this pressure on you, especially from your own friends.
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 05:30 AM
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yes all these azns at my school are freaking smart. except me. im the dumbest azn i know except for this korean girl whos a junior and shes in freshmen math and she keeps on asking me these questions that are like the easiest.
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 08:37 AM
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It's sometimes irritating as they think you'll do really well in a test,but then, you've flunk it. And they'll be like, ' i thought you're smart?' I'm really horrible in Math though but i'm still asian.
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 08:37 AM
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i get mad about that too... i mean im korean, but im not good at math and i JUST HATE when people say "asians are soo smart and so good at math"... and im just staring at them like im a stupid person.... it makes me MAD.
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 12:16 PM
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Actually, now that I think about it, IMO, this is from person to person. If you build a rep that you're smart at the beginning of the year, people will t hink you are smart, regardless of your race. (at least, at my school it's like this) So people just, automatically ASSUME you are smart.

I hate it that people EXPECT me to be smart, and when I do something wrong they almost get PISSED at me. It's really hard to have all this pressure on you, especially from your own friends.


yeah, i agree. Like 80% of the people in my school are asians. So when i build a rep like i am smart like you said, they expect me to be like perfect. It's really annoying, i just want to get up and tell them to shut up.
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 12:56 PM
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I get so pissed with that stereotype. I'm the only person in my geometry class with an A. Everyone says I get good grades because I'm Asian. I get so frustrated. I get my grades because I work hard not because I'm Asian.
 
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post Dec 11 2004, 05:03 PM
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see so some people do get mad..
 
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post Dec 18 2004, 08:59 PM
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well i'm asian, i got all of my subject A+ except math cuz i got a B. my teacher recommended me that i am the top of the ice cream meaning that i am her top student. people start disliking me, pissing me off, jealous, being sarcastic, saiding that i'm soo smart in a mean way. it f**ken piss mee off.. so what i'm asian, i try my best to get higher grade. people are copying my answers and spying on me and saiding shit bout me just becuase i'm getting alot of good grades. man wtf is wrong with people, why do they going against me ?i jus want to get better grade and be able to be sucessful.

ONE OF MY FATASS FRIEND SAID " I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMART, BUT UR ACTUALLY DUMB BECUASE YOU DIDNT WIN THE CLASS SCIENCE CONTEST, " HE KEPT ON LAUGHINNN .. I GOT SO f**kEN PiSS, HOW THE f**k WIL I KNOW ALL DA ANSWER. THE DUMBASS TEAM WON ! I CANT BELiVE IT.. MAH GOD !! they won by luck becuase if the team cannot answer the question.. the other team get the points.


ONE OF MY CLASSMATE RECiEVE AN REWARD AND HE START PISSING ME OFF BECUASE I DIDNT WiN. HE START SAIDING " TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS, TAKE A very GOOD LOOK AT THIS" SHOWING THAT HE IS ALL SMART BUT ACTUALLY HES KNOWLEDGeless ... its like everyone is expecting me to be all smart and they think i'm so freakin super smartass in da class when i know i'm not realli smart but people just assume that i'm super smartass. god .. people are so f**kinng stupid and they dont f**ken got no lives ... whatever they see seem to be soo true to them.


sorry if it doesnt make sense cuz it pissing me off rite now ..
 
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HEHE THE MAJORiTY OF MY SKOOL iZ ASiANZZZ AND TRUX ME THEY AiNT ALL SMART... WELL MOST OF THEM AiNT OUR SKOOLS SKORES R BAD... SHEEZ... BUT THERE ARE SUM SMART PPPL... BUT HEY... ALL iN ALL STEREOTYPES ARE DEBATEBLY DISRESPECTFUL, AND QUITE UNECESSARY, THEY'RE JUX SiMPLE KOiNSiDENSES iN OUR WORLD... =P KEEP iT REAL WiT GOD AND GET DOWN FA HiM
 
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Dec 9 2004, 6:36 PM)
It doesn't piss me off...why would I be pissed off at a stereotype that makes me look smart?
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Exactly.
It's not like it's a bad thing to be smart.

To iiiiiiiYON, what.. the.. heck.. stubborn.gif What's up with the macho speech on stereotypes and then "Keep it real with God and get down for him" ? Just a little.. random..

In my community, it's been proven that the majority of the people with high scores in academics are Asian. So it's not exactly a sterotype.. I think..
 
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post Jan 17 2005, 07:14 AM
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well, our school fits perfectly into that stereotype. being in an international school that is over 90% asian and with many people who are uber-smart in math and science although i'm not...and a lot of other subjects, along with pushover parents, our school is an epitome of this generalization. h'okay.
 
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QUOTE(x__forever @ Jan 17 2005, 8:14 PM)
well, our school fits perfectly into that stereotype.  being in an international school that is over 90% asian and with many people who are uber-smart in math and science although i'm not...and a lot of other subjects, along with pushover parents, our school is an epitome of this generalization.  h'okay. ohwell, i dont really care.
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yeah a lot of my friends deal with the steriotypes..
 
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I`m asian, my friends are known for having good marks lol I used to be but I got lazy to study and pay attention in class so I get B now lol. Yes, sometimes it is annoying! When my friends gets bad mark people would go omg.. how come did you get a bad mark? you're asian... you're suppose to be smart. Pretty annoying, doesn't mean that we, asian are suppose to have good marks everytime. My school is known for being one of the best school, so yeah lots of pressure, comp for having great marks it's just so urgh.. There's a lot of stereotypes haizz can't help it.. LOL same for the hwk thing, oh you're asian let me copy your hwk. I somehow feel bad when the person didn't have time to do it and copy on me and get a bad mark when i did my hwk super quickly.. but as for the one who didn't WANT to and get a bad mark i laugh at them, that's what they get for.. even i also get the same mark -___-"
 
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QUOTE(lilangelgurlpnai @ Dec 10 2004, 6:24 PM)
My school doesn't strerotype by ethenticity.. or race.

It's usually either how rich you are..
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My town used to have cheap, big rich-looking mansions years ago and now they've gone up a bit so that's why a lot of people in our town are so rich and they sort of don't talk to not-rich people.
 
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well, alot of Asians have parents that push them to....work hard...

I'm Flip, and I get straight A's...I guess it doesn't bother me, but I hate it when people only know me as "The Smart Asian".
 
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doesnt matter. well im half azn but im stupid so people are like *hey, its just ur black side* i dont care..but when people think im goth because i painted my nails black..thts somethin to fight about
 
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some of the asians i know arent that smart so i never really say anything.... i play ddr at school and people started calling me asian boy cuz im so good and i was getting ticked..

im a hispanic! ahhh.
 
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i don't really mind; i mean, it can only work to my advantage. i don't think that it's the asian race that is intelligent.. it's just that most of the asians who had the ambition and money to immigrate to the United States were determined scholars. also, it might have something to do with the way asian kids are raised. they're taught to value knowledge, learning, and hard work.. for example, in china, scientists and college professors are very highly respected.
 
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post Jan 18 2005, 01:50 AM
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i dont like stereotyped...im asian and ppl think i always get A's on everything..which is not true..lol...well i get A's most of the time, but a lot times i get B's..
 
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most of the time, but its mainly because of the classes i take.
 
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QUOTE(nekochan1018 @ Jan 18 2005, 12:50 AM)
i dont like stereotyped...im asian and ppl think i always get A's on everything..which is not true..lol...well i get A's most of the time, but a lot times i get B's..
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same.. although in my school most the ppl in my classes are asians anyway, so there isn't much of the "asians do this or that" thing going on bc they are asians as well.
 
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i don't care... but its not realy true... i suck at math i'm more od a science person
 
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same..... they sometimes want to copy my work (classwork) when they dont get it... also they think i cant play basketball
 
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yeah, that is how most of the people at my school think about asians. but i think that asians are just as smart as other people. but at my school, 3/4 of our ping-pong club and over half of my tennis team are asian! ohmy.gif
 
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the reason why we call it sterotypical is based on the fact, people get mad then that's their problem, the description doesn't have any offending meaning in it, i won't care if people call me stereotypical, i would even take it as a compliment
 
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QUOTE(xj_liana_tx @ Jan 18 2005, 5:01 PM)
the reason why we call it sterotypical is based on the fact, people get mad then that's their problem, the description doesn't have any offending meaning in it, i won't care if people call me stereotypical, i would even take it as a compliment
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Take it as a compliment that people call you stereotypical??? ....
Or did you mean that you would take it as a compliment if people STEREOTYPED you?

I agree with Mindy... It also works to my advantage, at times. Teachers don't pick on me as much because they think by the fact that I do the work that I don't need to prove anything to them. I'm not smart--I just do the work lol. I am flattered that people would think that Asians are more intelligent... Although I agree with Mindy about the fact that Asian immigrants came here, determined to achieve their goals and have a good education. Also, I've heard that back in Asia, school and education is a lot tougher than here. It just really depends, that's all.
 
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well said...but yeah a lot of people have that stereotype in their minds where i am too...but not as much as i've seen in other schools. the teachers don't have that mindset though...just students.
 
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it's not annoying untill that one kid keeps asking you for homework,projects, and then gets desperate enough to offer money _dry.gif
 
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actually i'm flattered people thinks im smart. they all come to me for math help. and i do help them for money. muwhahahhaha..
 
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yeah, I have heard the same stereotype, but I think it's getting to be less and less.
 
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i think ppl just pick on asians like that neone can make a's the problem is r u that lazy to work hard 4 that a?
 
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I get mad depending on how they come to me. Like,
"OMG, you need to help me b/c I don`t get this!!"
Me: "I don`t know either."
"You liar!! You`re like super smart!"
Me: "How so?"
"Because all Asians are supposed to be smart!!"

I should be flattered in a way, but people shouldn`t judge others because they`re Asian, or because they`re black, hispanic, etc. If you`re smart, then you`re smart. You`re smart because you study and do all that.
..but gyeah, I don`t care - as long as they don`t approach me with annoying nonsense matter. :P
 
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hahaha, well im the editor of the features page in our school newspaper and we did an article on this and other sterotypes, this was the positive stereotype for asians, the negative was how bad we drive hahahaha
 
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haha..I don`t know if the driving part applies for us here..but I drive pretty safely..or so my mind thinks. :)
 
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yeah me too, im just talking about asians in general esp. the ones that just came from asia, even my parents agree b/c they know how they drive there...cars come first before pedestrians
 
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it just doesn't matter because in my old high school you can tell who's smart and who's not...sorry to say... =(
 

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