Civil War, Avoidable or Inevitable? |
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 Nov 30 2004, 04:37 AM
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Does anyone know the points for both sides of the argument? Ive found tons on the inevitability factor but practically nothing on avoidability.
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Nov 30 2004, 06:48 AM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
There's plenty on avoidability... Almost every other country in the world freed its slaves without a Civil War... The only two that had a civil war over slavery I can think of off teh top of my head are the United States and Haiti.
If a compromise candidate like Stephen Douglas (Northern Democrat) or John Bell (Constitutional Union) won the election of 1860, the war could have been avoided. Slavery was already dying as an economic system. It would die out sooner or later, just like everywhere else (the last place in the world to have slavery was Brazil, where it was abolished in 1888--just twenty three years after us). |
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Dec 6 2004, 09:06 PM
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 i'm susan Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 |
wow this is a hard topic to answer, any easy way to explain what you've said? >.<;;;
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Dec 6 2004, 09:42 PM
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ComradeRed- Wow, if it were only that easy. Thats like asking for no more terrorism and hoping that theyll listen. O.o
angel_roh - im just asking for the arguments if you were on the "Civil war was avoidable" side. |
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Dec 7 2004, 07:40 PM
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to hell with you Group: Member Posts: 2,547 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,506 |
america just likes to have wars
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Dec 7 2004, 08:56 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(GreenTze @ Dec 6 2004, 9:42 PM) ComradeRed- Wow, if it were only that easy. Thats like asking for no more terrorism and hoping that theyll listen. O.o What do you mean? The fact of the matter is that the % of free blacks increased every year from 1800 to 1860. Slavery would have died out by itself. It did in almost every other country. |
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Dec 8 2004, 04:25 PM
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ComradeRed: I think Cuba also abolished slavery AFTER the US did.
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Dec 8 2004, 04:25 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
Cuba was a colony of Spain at the time, so whenever Spain abolished slavery, that's when Cuba would have done so. And I think it was before the US did.
A lot of nations abolished slavery after we did, but the LAST nation to abolish slavery was Brazil in 1888, which is only two decades after we did. In most cases, it died out naturally. |
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Dec 8 2004, 04:31 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism
According to that, Cuba, Brazil, China and Saudi Arabia all abolished slavery after the US did. moot point though, I agree with you, just trying the get the facts straight. GreenTze- Dare I ask, are you in Mr. Sherman's class? |
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Dec 8 2004, 04:37 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
I never said that the US was the last country to abolish slavery.
MANY countries abolished slavery after teh US ... just none of them after 1888. |
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