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post Nov 8 2004, 11:25 PM
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i wasn't sure where put this but whatever...
Before i start off this in no way is to offend anyone!

My new friend kristine is Chinese and White, but the thing is she never says shes chinese when people ask her, she just says "I'm white" and it really urks me because shes the only asian girl in our school! and she doesn't even act like it, and when she sees asian pride stuff, she always says "isn't there enough pride?" I printed out one of the binder signs for her and she just put it in her notebook which ended up in the trash. I don't think shes being a "sell out" but its really annoying to not to hear her say she, also part chinese...is it any of my buisness??

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post Nov 8 2004, 11:43 PM
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Maybe she doesn't wanna be different than anyone else, since she is the only asian in your school.
 
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post Nov 8 2004, 11:45 PM
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its stupid though..she always talks about how much she likes to be different to me but acts that way around other ppl
 
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post Nov 8 2004, 11:48 PM
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It is none of your business, frankly. But I understand your thoughts on her attitude. She just wants to blend in, I'd feel out of place when I'm the only Asian around all Caucasions. Don't push her to be Asian Pride, because obviously she hasn't found the cause for pride yet. =]

[EDIT] Let her be a hypocrite for a while, she's probably going through a identity crisis (even if she doesn't realize it)
 
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post Nov 8 2004, 11:49 PM
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geez just respect her ... shell do what ever she wants to do.. if ur half azn u usually choose a side...but its harder to choose the asian side cos then some ppl may think ur a tryhard....

i think she has an identity crisis.. dont push anything on her...
 
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post Nov 8 2004, 11:56 PM
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wow. i guess she doesnt like being chinese. o well. nvm her.
 
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post Nov 8 2004, 11:58 PM
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Let her be. She`s white washed, and likes it.
At least she`s not going around saying, AZN ! REPRESENT ! HOLLAAAAA

btw it`s irk not urk
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 12:02 AM
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Why do you think she needs to put Asian pride stickers on her binder to show that she's Asian?

How would you feel if White/Black/Hispanic people put "(insert race) pride" on their books/school material?

It's kind of weird that you feel she needs to show pride in her race by doing that, not to mention it's useless and only causes people of other races to feel annoyed. There are many other ways to show appreciation for your culture such as participating in cultural events and joining clubs that promote your culture. There's no need to be too showy.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 12:08 AM
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first off it IRKS me when people mispell words. Also, I, being half asian, can say that it's RIDICULOUS for someone to except me to have "asian pride"... because I'm only half. I don't think you know what it's like to not fit in either of your races, and always be viewed as DIFFERENT. i mean after awhile i just learned to roll with it because it doesnt matter, but you seem to be in middle school or possibly a freshman where those things matter sooo much so whatever. she can do what she wants, it isn't your business. but she's asian and white and she can be whatever the hell she wants, just because her asian traits are more dominant genetically doesn't mean she's any more asian than white.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 12:57 AM
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Yea.. Just don't push it. The only thing that would bother me personally if she started denying/looking down upon her Asian half.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 01:28 AM
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Well first off I just want to say that just because u are "white" doesn't mean you are 100% one race...are u completely german/french/irish/ect.??? If not...why don't you go around saying german/irish/ect. Pride? Maybe her mom/dad never put any emphasis on the "asian" culture. So why would she be all "asian 4 life" and such?

I was born in Idaho falls, Idaho. When I was 6 months old my parents moved my family to california. My mom is 1/2 mexican and 1/2 german white, my father is 100% mexican. I don't have an ounce of "mexican pride." I don't speek spanish, and for that matter neither does anyone in my family. Except my sister, but she learned it in school, and I wouldn't say she is fluent in the language. I have never been to mexico. My family doesn't place an emphasis on the mexican culture, mainly because they know nothing of it. I was raised in the american culture, with huge 4th of july, thanksgiving, and Christmas celebrations every year.

I don't acknowledge or even accept that I am "mexican," because I am not. I am an "AMERICAN." The ethnic orign of my parents do not make me who I am. It doesn't even make them who they are. I am a Christian. I am an American. I am a Man. Those are the only things that have any influence on my identity/personality/life.

With all that, the point I was trying to make was, that who she is, isn't dictated by what dictates who u are. And u have no place/right to label her what u think she should be. If she is your friend accept her for who she says she is.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(atpx @ Nov 8 2004, 9:48 PM)
It is none of your business, frankly. But I understand your thoughts on her attitude. She just wants to blend in, I'd feel out of place when I'm the only Asian around all Caucasions. Don't push her to be Asian Pride, because obviously she hasn't found the cause for pride yet. =]

[EDIT] Let her be a hypocrite for a while, she's probably going through a identity crisis (even if she doesn't realize it)

I agree.
Although I wouldn't mind being different from everyone else.
Ban conformity!! cool.gif
 
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QUOTE(tainted_angel @ Nov 8 2004, 11:34 PM)
Ban conformity!!

haha i liked that. biggrin.gif but yeah, i think its fine for you to have that opinion, just don't push it on her. if thats the way she feels though, fine.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 02:16 AM
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anything that's not about u isn't ur buisiness
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 02:20 AM
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In this case, it's not your business.
If she doesn't want to be known as a half asian person, then that's her business.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 06:02 AM
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sorry, but if she doesnt like being asian, then she just doesnt. i mean im fine with being asian and white _smile.gif
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 07:00 AM
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post Nov 9 2004, 07:37 AM
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if she does'nt want to be called chinese then let her be. _unsure.gif but she knew that no matter how hard she try to deny that she's white, the more she gets hurt, coz she knew what she really is. Deep down inside she's suppering. sad.gif She can never changes the fact that she is chinese. Its in her blood. mad.gif
 
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wow thats crazy...excuse me but if ur chinese ur chinese nothing can change that so being ashamed of ur race is a stupid thing it shows that ur a LOOSER!!
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(teenprincess @ Nov 8 2004, 11:43 PM)
Maybe she doesn't wanna be different than anyone else, since she is the only asian in your school.

i agree.
 
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What's wrong with not having "asian pride"? Maybe she just doesn't like to be asian or something, i dunno. Also, i agree with teen princess, maybe she doesn't want to be different from everyone else because she's the only asian.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 06:45 PM
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I would kinda admire her, I'm sick and tired of AzN's not Asians but AzN's and stuff like that, or am I just lost...
 
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not having asian pride (and why should she? if i went around having white pride or something equally rediculous, i would be condemned for it) is not that big a deal, especially when you consider that its better to not classify yourself than over classify yourself and do rediulous stuff like having abreviations like "azn" for stuff
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(jambaJUICE @ Nov 8 2004, 11:58 PM)
Let her be. She`s white washed, and likes it.
At least she`s not going around saying, AZN ! REPRESENT ! HOLLAAAAA

btw it`s irk not urk

ha yeah i so agree. happy.gif
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 07:31 PM
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well everyone in the world s ashamed of something even if in ur opinion u dont think its rite, they ll realize it someday and they may be repentful or they wont.. its just how human emotion/brain works. so u can't really blame her. and plus u said that she is the only asian kid in ur school, so peer pressure obviously
 
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QUOTE(tainted_angel @ Nov 9 2004, 1:34 AM)
Ban conformity!! cool.gif

too bad thats impossible. *sigh*
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 09:00 PM
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Maybe you can't choose your race, so why should she be proud of it?
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 09:07 PM
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only asian girl in school = almost inevitable discrimination. let her be. as for me....AZN PRYDE REPAZENT! XDXDXD juss messin.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 09:46 PM
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haha nope it znot ur business
y do you care what she says she is
you are not asian

but maybe shez raised in a more of white cultured family that she dont really consider herself to be an asian. or maybe shez just been with all the white and never thought about her asianess. or maybe she looks very white. or maybe shez too lazy to say "im half aisan" after that "im half white"..

w/e yo
if the grl dont got asian pride
let it be man

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post Nov 9 2004, 09:56 PM
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??wtf??? its not anyones business....
 
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Look, just because she doesn't have 'asian pride' or whatever, doesn't mean that she has to go around saying 'W'dup cha'll!? Azian pryde to tha fullezt, man! Ya hurd?', doesn't mean she's ashamed of being asian. Look, I'm hispanic and white. When people usually sk me what what race I am, I say I'm hispanic. I don't really feel like a white person. Why? Cuz I grew around hispanics for all of my life and my town is barely filled up with white people, so I'm kinda used to seeing a lot of hispanics around. But if someone asked me wether I am white or not, I would admit it and tell the truth. But am I ashamed for being white? No. Maybe it's the same for her. Just ask her and have a little talk with her (don't start a fight). But if she denies being asian, then that could be a little problem.


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post Nov 9 2004, 09:59 PM
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What she wants to identify as part of herself she can. DOn't try to force her to be one part of herself. Do there somehow seem to be any iffy relationships with her chinese side? And yeah, maybe she wants to blend in.
 
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post Nov 9 2004, 10:01 PM
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JUST LEAVE HER THE f**k ALONE!
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 12:41 AM
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Just let her be what she wants to be, like the previous people said in this topic maybe she was raised in a more white environment than an asian one.
 
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its not really any of your business so i wouldnt force her to do things she isnt comfortable doing. when she grows up, she'll probably have more pride in her heritage... it also has to do with how she was raised... was asian culture more dominant in her upbringing, or was it even there at all? i dont think that she should disclude herself from being asian, while just telling people that she's "white," but hey, thats her deal, and it aint no thang.
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 04:28 PM
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It is none of your business. I don't see what's the problem with being azn [i AM azn]. I'm not into the "Oh I'm oh so azn I rock you suck" thing. There's no point in being extremists, and there's no point in being anti. That's all I gotta say...
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 04:38 PM
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i'm saying thats she has to be all "i'm the only asian girl here so i effing rock" but she denies it, she only says that shes chinese around her mom! and she rushes to say that i'm german when people ask me i ask me if i'm only black, and okay and maybe its not any of my business but she is my friend.
 
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  i'm saying thats she has to be all "i'm the only asian girl here so i effing rock" but she denies it, she only says that shes chinese around her mom! and she rushes to say that i'm german when people ask me i ask me if i'm only black, and okay and maybe its not any of my business but she is my friend. 

But Davon, maybe she doesn't want to be like " i'm the only asian girl so i effing rock" what's the big deal? she doesn't always have to be proud of her nationality. and plus, she's only half-asian....so what's wrong with her calling herself white? i don't know why this is sucha big deal...o_o
 
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If any of you watched American's Next Top Model season two, there's this girl who's half white and half asian. Even though she's looks completely asian, she still say that she's white and try to deny the fact that she is asian. I mean, if you are mixed, then you should be happy cuz you are lucky enough to experience both family bg. And for people who say leave her alone, get real, we are not saying this to her face and just discussing this with our own opinion. And it's not like the topic starter is shoving this in her face and tell her that she sucks or anything like that. She just want to show her opionion and ask our's, so give yours or shut up.

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man, you guys didn't read my comment right, i meant for all the people who tell people to leave her alone to shut up or give their opinion, we are not bothering that girl, so how the hell could we leave her alone?????
 
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QUOTE(timeisrunningout @ Nov 10 2004, 4:54 PM)
If any of you watched American's Next Top Model season two, there's this girl who's half white and half asian. Even though she's looks completely asian, she still say that she's white and try to deny the fact that she is asian. I mean, if you are mixed, then you should be happy cuz you are lucky enough to experience both family bg. And for people who say leave her alone, get real, we are not saying this to her face and just discussing this with our own opinion. And it's not like the topic starter is shoving this in her face and tell her that she sucks or anything like that. She just want to show her opionion and ask our's, so give yours or shut up.

WTF are you talking about. We are giving our opinions, that is what the topic starter intended when he/she started this thread. If he/she wanted a one-sided opinion, i.e that her Asian/White friend is wrong for denying half of who she is, then maybe the topic starter shouldn't have posted anything in the first place.

The readers' opinions do not have to be in agreement with the topic starter.
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 08:17 PM
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Well tell you the truth i dont act asian when people ask what race i am i say am black cry.gif Damn well guess am selling out
 
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um.. i have no asian pride. and i'm chinese. i admit i'm chinese. but i don't go for that whole "AzN pRyDe!" shit.
 
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post Nov 10 2004, 10:22 PM
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i think she should be proud...of being asian and white/w.e she is....you cant change where your background is from. but don't push her if she really doesn't want to be proud.
 
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honestly....its none of yur business..whether or not she shows azn pride..she can be ashamed of the fact that shes half chinese if she wants..be a sellout..she knows what shes doing....yur her friend..dont judge her...let the people who dont know her judge her from a distance. its not yur fault she acts like that. huh.gif ermm.gif stubborn.gif blink.gif
 
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QUOTE(tainted_angel @ Nov 9 2004, 1:34 AM)

Ban conformity!! cool.gif

Why would that be a good thing? Everyone would be a rebel or at least a wannabe. huh.gif
 
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well I'm practically 100% asian but really like wat's there to be so proud of? I mean how the heck r asians any better than any other race? Doesn't matter wat race u r.....u're still...human..doesn't dat still make u practically the same? I dun see why she cares abt it so much ~ also I dun see why u care abt it soo much. I'm not saying u shouldn't but I dun think u need to worry abt it so.
 
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QUOTE(xnofearx @ Nov 9 2004, 7:45 PM)
I would kinda admire her, I'm sick and tired of AzN's not Asians but AzN's and stuff like that, or am I just lost...

No you're not lost, I'm with you on that one buddy. Damn Asian pride. That girl obviously agrees with this too. If I were her and you printed out one of those things for me, I'd crumple it up and throw it at your face. Hard.


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whoa! really! if i were her i would be "IM ASIAN AND IM PROUD OF IT!" and i would sit down saying "what?"
 
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post Nov 11 2004, 02:43 PM
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leave her be. its her life.
 
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QUOTE(jambaJUICE @ Nov 8 2004, 11:58 PM)
At least she`s not going around saying, AZN ! REPRESENT ! HOLLAAAAA

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i actually agree with her. asian pride is pathetic, it hecka annoys me. i keep the asian pride hatred to myself though, cuz im asian but i dont wanna harm fellow asians, lol.
 
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well you didnt have to print her out something to show shes asian. if she wanna b known as white, then let her be. theres no need to mind too much about it. i understand that you're jus wondering why she doesnt admit shes half chinese, but theres nothing to do about it? you cant go around and be lik HEY YO THIS GIRL IS HALF CHINESE. jus well let her do whatever she wanna do
 
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If you are a friend of hers, you are supposed to understand, accept and support her. Let her be.
 
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hi, my name's sammi. i'm 25% german, 25% austrian, 12% scottish, 12% british, 12% native american, 11% french, etc. yadda yadda yadda.....

did you really need to know all that? no. people don't need to know she's half chinese either; it's irrelevant.

besides, AZN PRYDE YO annoys me.
 
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shes white washed. she don't like asians, thats all.
 
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i guess she wants to believe shes white so let her be
 
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i am not saying that she has to loud with it! maybe i should have given the topic a different name, but what i'm saying is, is it okay if i am concerned about it. I guess I think differently than her because i let people know that no i'm not just black, that i'm other races too.
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to tell you the truth.... i dont think she likes the asian part of her family.... maybe shes embarassed that shes part asian or a "mut"
or maybe she doesnt like the part of her family thats asian
 
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maybe she isn`t like into her chinese side.. does that make sense? because i`m half too (krn & white) so i kinda don`t really have much asian pride either because i`m not into my korean half. like it seems like the koreans at my school like discriminate against me kind of because i`m half and not full like them & because i can`t like speak fluently in korean or whatever. so maybe she just wants to blend in so that`s why she isn`t all like ASIAN PRIDE!! haha you know? so i mean maybe you should just leave it be. it`s sometimes hard to be half or even to be mixed with 10 different races because you don`t always FIT in. and plus maybe she thinks that if she DOES go around and claim her asian pride, people will be like..uh your only half so stop. you know? or something..haha..maybe ask/talk to her about it.
 

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