what is pg-13, as pertaining to society? Options

[*[2]Nekked*]

this is ridiculous. the booty thread was closed, and i'm assuming here that one or a few of the mods deemed it un-pg13.

lets elaborate on what pg-13 is ok kids?

PG-13 Parents Strongly Cautioned - Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. Signifies that the film rated may be inappropriate for pre-teens. Parents should be especially careful about letting their younger children attend. Rough or persistent violence is absent; sexually-oriented-nudity is generally absent; some scenes of drug use may be seen; some use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words may be heard.

nudity:

1. Having no clothing; naked.
2. Permitting or featuring full exposure of the body: a nude beach.

last time i checked, the asses in that thread were pretty much clothed. when kids start exposing there bumhole, then i can see how that'd be over PG-13, but yknow what? i see clothing,whether it be someones underoos, or a miniskirt / wtfe, it doesnt matter what, but i see material/some sort of fabric on the asses in that thread.

look at all the crap they allow in pg-13 movies, and tell me this board isn't pg-13 as well.

and i know someones gonna be like "this isnt the movies, this is real life, and there are people under 13 here"

ok yknow what, shut the hell up, because when you refer to PG-13 or any MPAA rating, you are refering to the standards and guidelines pertaining to that rating in which they assign anything in the media. you can't say "this is supposed to be pg-13, but not like in the movies" because that doesnt even make sense. you cant give a rating to life in general, or how society interacts; i'm sorry but that kind of thing is too broad to set a rating on. and yeah, i'm fully aware of the handful of preteen kids we have on createblog, but that still doesnt change the fact that this board is PG-13. When someone tells us that its supposed to be PG, then I might see how the fact that there are under-13 kids on this board even relates.


what are everyone elses thoughts?

[expoised]

WTF??? THEY CLOSED THE BOOTY THREAD????

:goes and checks:

damn.

[edit] i think i know who closed it. and this really pisses me off as there is NOTHING un-pg13 in that thread.

i remember posting up a picture from some rating's site about what pg-13 was.

... oh, and a plus. DONT WE JUST f**kING LOVE IT WHEN THREADS ARE CLOSED WITHOUT A WARNING OR REASON AS TO WHY IT WAS CLOSED.

[xquizit]

i agree. i don't see what's not PG-13 or explicit about a clothed booty. Are you saying it's too "R rated"?

Let's elaborate on the guidelines for a PG-13 rating, shall we?


From the MPAA (Movie Picture Association of America), the guys who set the guidelines for these ratings:

A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year olds and younger to attend.

If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.

Basically, this is saying that if it's beyond PG rating but not quite rated R, then it fits in there with PG-13. We can all agree that that's where the booty thread would fit, correct?


In simpler terms:

PG-13:

parents strongly cautioned, some material may be inappropriate for children under 13
parents are alerted to be very careful about allowing preteenage children to view this film
may contain nudity, profanity and sexually-derived words
may contain violence
may contain drug use 

"May contain nudity". I don't even see any nudity in the booty thread.


For reference, the meaning of "R rated":

R:"Restricted, Under 17 Requires Accompanying Parent Or Adult Guardian." In the opinion of the Rating Board, this film definitely contains some adult material. Parents are strongly urged to find out more about this film before they allow their children to accompany them.

An R-rated film may include hard language, or tough violence, or nudity within sensual scenes, or drug abuse or other elements, or a combination of some of the above, so that parents are counseled, in advance, to take this advisory rating very seriously. Parents must find out more about an R-rated movie before they allow their teenagers to view it.

Tell me, what has been posted in these forums that follow the R rating rather than the PG-13 rating?


Here's another example of a board/forum who adheres to a PG-13 guideline:

As many of you know we have maintained a stance that this is a site that should be safe for young children to visit. Also we would not want children exploited in any way. Because of this, we have maintained that photos should maintain a PG-13 rating. We know this term is not a world-wide known standard. The best definition we can give for this is... no "body part" that would normally covered by a bikini bathing suit will be posted (for girls) or a boys bathing suit for the boys.

On photos that are to be posted we have come up with the following policy for photos.

"All photos to the web site are to meet the following standards; 1) no photos deemed by a vote of the discussion list team to be provocative or sexual by nature will be allowed, 2) no images with pasties or thongs are allowed, 3) the general guideline states that any body part that is normally covered by a conventional bathing suit should not be exposed, 4) no nipples may be exposed for a girl of any age..."

I mean, when you say that a board is rated PG-13 you're referring to the ratings that are given for a PG-13 movie because thats what these ratings are based upon. If somehow the guidelines they want to set are different from the ones the MPAA have already set, then don't even bother using an MPAA rating to set guidelines for these boards and just list out the rules instead.

Sounds like they're looking to have a G or PG rating instead.

[*tweeak*]

theres even mild nudity in pg-13 sometimes.

for an overview, take this quiz, as it covers life ratings:

http://www.readingforresults.com/rating/quiz.htm

[darkcoldplace]

wtf, if you ever watch somethings gotta give thats pg-13 and there is nude in that, we have clothes on so who cares? wtf this is dumb last time i freaking checked we had clothes on also..

[metabolic666]

well its clean they do have clothes on right? but I can see why they closed it tho cause most of the Admins here are '11 or 13' *shurgs* its stupid and it shouldn't be closed.

[sm0kinm0nky]

none of thsoe pics had nudity, clothes were on. this sucks

[Saeglopur]

It was too much for the little kids.. too much asses. It seemed to have gotten in their face... *shakes head*

[*tweeak*]

^but little kids have asses too! and they stick them in each others faces all the time...

[Saeglopur]

^but little kids have asses too! and they stick them in each others faces all the time...

But the poor kids.... it was too much for them. These asses were fully matured.. and grown.. and tanned! :shock:

[xquizit]

But the poor kids.... it was too much for them. These asses were fully matured.. and grown.. and tanned! :shock:

LMAO!

[*AngelicEyz00*]

haha, that's so f*cking stupid

idiots

[moorepocket]

yeah, it pg-13, cuz that the thing you would see on tv, but not pg related stuff.

[T00000]

i've spoken my opinion on this matter before. it's a tad bit sad... but we'll fix things eventually. if createblog get's too gay, it will be filled with under 13 year olds taking about farting and masturbation, and there's nothing worse than being a community like that. so you guys can pretty much choose who you want to make your audience. PG 13 or... G? yeah. that includes the censorship guys--if createblog gets really gay and censored and G rated I guaruntee all the cool members (me and trish specifically) will leave.

[*[2]Nekked*]

and yknow if you're under 13, then you've been warned.. this is a PG13 site. some of the content here will be a little too explicit for you, but that doesnt make us responsible for anything that you see here. the site clearly states that this is a PG13 site.

[sammi rules you]

well its clean they do have clothes on right? but I can see why they closed it tho cause most of the Admins here are '11 or 13' *shurgs* its stupid and it shouldn't be closed.

not most of the admins OR mods for that matter are 11 or 13.

[*[2]Nekked*]

we do have a few really young ones though..

[*krnxswat*]

Then I might as well as take a naked picture of butt except a little tiny paper covering my butthole.

[sammi rules you]

yes, but most are mature enough to handle stuff on cb..i mean, i'm not that much older than 13..i'm only 14..and it's becoming too innocent.

most, not all..

[darkcoldplace]

rofl. seon ho you have a way with words ;)

[*[2]Nekked*]

Then I might as well as take a naked picture of butt except a little tiny paper covering my butthole.

clothing.

not paper.


clothing.


underwear is clothing.


it covers the entire ass.

[*krnxswat*]

rofl. seon ho you have a way with words ;)

Is that good or bad?

[*[2]Nekked*]

and you seem to have missed the point, seon ho.

yes it is a little explicit.

but its still pg13

[*krnxswat*]

Nekked,Nov 5 2004, 5:02 PM] and you seem to have missed the point, seon ho.

yes it is a little explicit.

but its still pg13

No, I got it.
I just decided to be silly about it.

[heyyfrankie]

last time i checked, pg-13 movies have sex in them. and they won't let you show a butt. well, then i guess that you had better get rid of KRNXSWAT's avatar because he is shirt-less!

[*[2]Nekked*]

No, I got it.
I just decided to be silly about it.

if i cant show my boobs, you cant either.

[melface]

So if I posted a picture of me and my thong... then what?
If sex is in pg-13 movies... then may I post pictures of people having sex?
How about someone's cameltoe, is that okay?

Is this not crossing the line?

[*[2]Nekked*]

So if I posted a picture of me and my thong... then what?
If sex is in pg-13 movies... then may I post pictures of people having sex?
How about someone's cameltoe, is that okay?

Is this not crossing the line?

A PG-13 film is one which, in the view of the Rating Board, leaps beyond the boundaries of the PG rating in theme, violence, nudity, sensuality, language, or other contents, but does not quite fit within the restricted R category. Any drug use content will initially require at least a PG-13 rating. In effect, the PG-13 cautions parents with more stringency than usual to give special attention to this film before they allow their 12-year olds and younger to attend.

If nudity is sexually oriented, the film will generally not be found in the PG-13 category. If violence is too rough or persistent, the film goes into the R (restricted) rating. A film's single use of one of the harsher sexually-derived words, though only as an expletive, shall initially require the Rating Board to issue that film at least a PG-13 rating. More than one such expletive must lead the Rating Board to issue a film an R rating, as must even one of these words used in a sexual context. These films can be rated less severely, however, if by a special vote, the Rating Board feels that a lesser rating would more responsibly reflect the opinion of American parents.

first, i believe a picture of someones ass wearing a thong has been posted before.

second, a picture of your ass with at least SOME type of clothing is not sexually oriented. its a body part.

sex.. that's sexually oriented, obviously. and i believe in pg13 movies, when you see sex, they dont show anything but one head over the other, and maybe some noises.

[melface]

Thongs are some type of clothing, then? So can I do that?


what about the cameltoe?

[*[2]Nekked*]

Thongs are some type of clothing, then? So can I do that?


what about the cameltoe?

first, i believe a picture of someones ass wearing a thong has been posted before.

[melface]

first, i believe a picture of someones ass wearing a thong has been posted before.

a cameltoe... isn't of someone's ass.

[*[2]Nekked*]

a cameltoe... isn't of someone's ass.

Thongs are some type of clothing, then? So can I do that?

[melface]

Cameltoes have NOTHING to do with thongs or asses...

so what you're quoting and then restating... isn't making any sense.

[T00000]

no one wants to see your cameltoe...

[melface]

no one wants to see your cameltoe...

I'm not talking about me posting a picture of my cameltoe.. and to be truthful I can't say I ever had one.. I'm talking about in general... but I'm sure you would've figured that out.

No one wants to see you in your bikini but.. do you see anybody complaining about that.

This post has been edited by omg_melface: Nov 5 2004, 06:07 PM

[expoised]

i'm not feeling the love.

[*[2]Nekked*]

Cameltoes have NOTHING to do with thongs or asses...

so what you're quoting and then restating... isn't making any sense.

i wasnt TALKING about your cameltoe. THATS the point. you asked TWO questions. i answered one, and chose to ignore the second.

[melface]

Nekked,Nov 5 2004, 5:14 PM] i wasnt TALKING about your cameltoe. THATS the point. you asked TWO questions. i answered one, and chose to ignore the second.

funny thing is.. i wasn't talking about my cameltoe either... You really shouldn't make those kind of assumptions.. I was talking about if i posted a picture of A cameltoe, in general...

and if you're going to make random quotes... you can at least try to explain yourself, you know. Because how the f**k is anyone supposed to know what the hell you're talking about?

[xquizit]

i don't think she would really want to post a pic of her cameltoe. that's weird. she was just asking if it would be ok.

eh, sure why not? but why would anyone want to?

[T00000]

No one wants to see you in your bikini but.. do you see anybody complaining about that.

that's probably why they aren't complaining... ?


but anyways, i dont think they'd include footage of a cameltoe on a pg-13 movie and get away with it. just like i dont recall any PG 13 movies with a girl wearing a thong and nothing else... soo i think you're being a bit unrealistic.

[*tweeak*]

Then I might as well as take a naked picture of butt except a little tiny paper covering my butthole.

ive seen naked butts in pg-13 movies. not the ass, just the back

[royalfreshness]

PG-13 is like all screwed up now.
I mean why freak is The Grudge PG 13?? I couldn't sleep for 2 nights thinking about that movie xD

[*tweeak*]

^it kind of depends on maturity. how old are you?
thats not what this topic is about anyway

[*x____duckii*]

well its clean they do have clothes on right? but I can see why they closed it tho cause most of the Admins here are '11 or 13' *shurgs* its stupid and it shouldn't be closed.

If I were an admin, I wouldn't have closed the booty topic

[xquizit]

,Nov 5 2004, 9:36 PM] im so confused, what 'booty' thread?

This booty thread

[*tweeak*]

If I were an admin, I wouldn't have closed the booty topic

nor would most of the mods, which is why she reopened it

[*stephinika*]

i think its kind of ridiculous. first off, think of all the crap thats on tv. a lot is NOT pg13. and in this world today, its really hard to draw that actual line of pg13, for its grown very fine. a lot of the stuff on here i think is very pg13 and not inappropiate at all. and don't make such a fuss...people choose to go on here so that's their choice to read it so whatever.

[waccoon]

PG-13 is like all screwed up now.
I mean why freak is The Grudge PG 13?? I couldn't sleep for 2 nights thinking about that movie xD

No violence.
No nudity.
No cussing.


=


PG13.

[*krnxswat*]

Nekked,Nov 5 2004, 5:24 PM] if i cant show my boobs, you cant either.

Well, it's different.
You can see guys shirtless, but not girls in PG13 movies.
Booyah.

[*wind&fire*]

^^yeh but thats kinda sexist... we can see guys abs and their man boob yet we cant see real boobs....

[waccoon]

Well, it's different.
You can see guys shirtless, but not girls in PG13 movies.
Booyah.

Actually.. you can see a girl shirtless in a pg13 movie.

[waccoon]

^i think.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Calm down everyone, you won. Bootiepix 3.0 is open again.

O.O

[faithin_felix]

i think they're just turnning it into a kiddy forum. lol. just want it to be un sex related. but come to think of it, what fun is that?

[T00000]

yeah you can see women's boobs in a PG-13 movie... remember TITANIC?

[*tweeak*]

Calm down everyone, you won. Bootiepix 3.0 is open again.

O.O

thats because roxy reopened it and she was one of the main participants in this thread

[xquizit]

And remember Charlie's Angels when Cameron Diaz danced around in her undies... PG-13. That's no different from the Booty Thread.

[*tweeak*]

^and there was never any doubt to that being pg-13

[melface]

So now we have another issue... girls shirtless? Titanic was rated PG-13... and it's true.. she was shirtless.

[*tweeak*]

^i think thats pushing it a bit. ive never seen another girl shirtless (from the front) in a pg13 movie

[melface]

Go watch Titanic again, then.

anyway, some pictures on this "booty thread" are a bit trashy, i'm not going to say whose or anything but yeah... Shouldn't we be sending a good and positive message to the "preteens" of createblog? I'm sorry but some pictures as well as pictures that could be taken [poses and such]... I consider to be skanky.

This post has been edited by omg_melface: Nov 6 2004, 10:54 AM

[*tweeak*]

no, i said another, as in i havent seen them in anything but titanic

[waccoon]

I think it's just that.. people on the staff want a change, any change, and they chose this.

[melface]

no, i said another, as in i havent seen them in anything but titanic

That really shouldn't matter, though. Titanic was approved and was rated PG-13.

[waccoon]

no, i said another, as in i havent seen them in anything but titanic

Just because it's not commonly done doesn't mean it's prohibited.

[*tweeak*]

i wasnt saying it was prohibited, i just think that surpasses pg13 in society

[melface]

So now it's all a matter of opinion? So what if I said... i think... girls showing off their asses in a slutty manner... "surpasses PG-13 in society" everyone will be against me, no?


Yeah, okay.. OPINION.

This post has been edited by omg_melface: Nov 6 2004, 11:05 AM

[Miss[x]Tiff]

Some mods just dunno what kinda freaking topics to close.

[waccoon]

Tiff,Nov 6 2004, 11:09 AM] Some mods just dunno what kinda freaking topics to close.

I think they're doing a pretty damn good job.
Could you do any better?

[Miss[x]Tiff]

I think they're doing a pretty damn good job.
Could you do any better?

I said some, not all of them are bad, just a few dunno what theyre doing. And when did I say "I could so do a better job!"? I think I'd do a terrible job, I give major props to the mods here at CB but some of them just want to tend to the younger members instead of the older ones.

[waccoon]

Tiff,Nov 6 2004, 11:12 AM] I said some, not all of them are bad, just a few dunno what theyre doing. And when did I say "I could so do a etter job!"?

All the people staff are great.
I just asked you - could you do the same thing they're doing now, as good or better then they are?

[Miss[x]Tiff]

All the people staff are great.
I just asked you - could you do the same thing they're doing now, as good or better then they are?

Eh, i edited my post, I really should show my complete thoughts instead of editing all over the place -.- I really don't wanna start an argument, I was just saying thats all.

[melface]

Tiff,Nov 6 2004, 10:12 AM] some of them just want to tend to the younger members instead of the older ones.

........ what the hell? What are you talking about? Example please.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

........ what the hell? What are you talking about? Example please.

Like the topics, they think "OMG THIS ISNT SUITABLE TO THOSE YOUNGER CB MEMBERS!" Like that whole swearing thing a while ago, and now the "what is PG-13" thing, eventually this board will be full of 12 and 11 year olds.

[*tweeak*]

So now it's all a matter of opinion? So what if I said... i think... girls showing off their asses in a slutty manner... "surpasses PG-13 in society" everyone will be against me, no?


Yeah, okay.. OPINION.

because naked breasts count as nudity. we dont want cb to turn into a pron site.

[melface]

Tiff,Nov 6 2004, 10:18 AM] Like the topics, they think "OMG THIS ISNT SUITABLE TO THOSE YOUNGER CB MEMBERS!" Like that whole swearing thing a while ago, and now the "what is PG-13" thing, eventually this board will be full of 12 and 11 year olds.

I don't think I have ever read a closed topic or even a post like that... Anyway, do we WANT createblog to send out a negative image?

[Miss[x]Tiff]

I don't think I have ever read a closed topic or even a post like that... Anyway, do we WANT createblog to send out a negative image?

Noo of course not, but those butts were covered so its PG-13. But thats just my opinion, and not alot of people seem to like my opinion so I'll just shut my mouth now.

[waccoon]

Tiff,Nov 6 2004, 11:18 AM] Like the topics, they think "OMG THIS ISNT SUITABLE TO THOSE YOUNGER CB MEMBERS!" Like that whole swearing thing a while ago, and now the "what is PG-13" thing, eventually this board will be full of 12 and 11 year olds.

*claps*

Too strict.

[melface]

because naked breasts count as nudity. we dont want cb to turn into a pron site.

So then what is pg-13?



This is just going in f**king circles.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

*claps*

Too strict.

uhm..yeah that was basically what I was trying to say.... I'm sorry if it sounded like I was trying to say something else.

[*tweeak*]

So then what is pg-13?



This is just going in f**king circles.

yeah...

i think naked breasts is taking it to far. but the booty thread certainly isnt, so long as we dont have a whole bunch of thongs, because as you said, we dont want the negative image

[*kryogenix*]

I believe that the use of the term pg-13 is incorrect for a forum. Forum != movie. I think forums have more to do with books and magazines than tv and movies. Therfore, it would be proper to use the same guidelines used when censoring books and magazines. I'll speak with micron about this next time he's around.

[*tweeak*]

and what part of magazine/book ratings are you referring to?

[happygoluckyng]

wat booty thread?...is there a link?....lol
yeah pG13 movie also have brief nudity in them

[T00000]

yeah i dunno guys, i mean so far the guideline IS PG-13, but people don't post pictures of their breasts, etc. It's against their better judgement. I say we keep PG-13 as a guideline, but don't take it too far. People usually have good judgement, but when it gets to the point where we're taking pictures of our tits and posting them on the internet, that's not cool. How about, keep topics PG-13, with no nudity. And as Trish explain before, nudity means not CLOTHED. The booty thread contained no nudity.

[*tweeak*]

wat booty thread?...is there a link?....lol
yeah pG13 movie also have brief nudity in them

but typically its not frontal nudity. if you just see a back, its really no big deal, like that pic trish posted once.

[*kryogenix*]

and what part of magazine/book ratings are you referring to?

i don't think there is one. but, obviously, you're not going to find kids taking pictures of their backsides and sending it to magazines aimed at teenagers, would you?

[*krnxswat*]

Actually.. you can see a girl shirtless in a pg13 movie.

Whattt. I never knew that.
My bad.

[*tweeak*]

i don't think there is one. but, obviously, you're not going to find kids taking pictures of their backsides and sending it to magazines aimed at teenagers, would you?

ok, yes, definitely

[Heathasm]

>_>
oh why did i bring that thread back up

i think that whoever closed that thread went a little overboard
like every one else said, they are clothed booties
some may see it as sexual some may see it as "look, an ass!"
either way it is still pg 13
if your reasons for doing it are compassionate look at logic
if a kid below 13 wants to look at some R-rated/risky stuff they are gonna do it no matter what
that thread is very mild and might just calm them down from looking at some really nasty stuff

[*krnxswat*]

So in conclusion, we should just let people use their judgements to decide what's PG13 and rated R when they're posting a topic/closing a topic, right?

[melface]

Um.. but is showing your ass really neccessary?... is all this drama and arguing even needed? It's just a damn ass.

It doesn't matter if it's f**king closed or not.

[*krnxswat*]

Um.. but is showing your ass really neccessary?... is all this drama and arguing even needed? It's just a damn ass.

It doesn't matter if it's f**king closed or not.

I was thinking about wearing tighty whities and taking a picture of myself.

[happygoluckyng]

ohhh are 'yall talking bout the hairy man thing in the girls locker room?...lol....damn that's nasty

[*tweeak*]

^no, no one was talking about that. i dont even know what youre talking about..

[T00000]

I was thinking about wearing tighty whities and taking a picture of myself.

actually i dont think i would mind that... i doubt any other girl would object either.

[T00000]

...cough...

[*autumn.*]

wheeze. hey seon ho, how do you pronounce the seon? is it like...sun or sean? random, i know.

[Miss[x]Tiff]

actually i dont think i would mind that... i doubt any other girl would object either.

Trust me, we dont object.

[jambaJUICE]

La la la. You know kids watch Rated R.
And society today, manipulates kids from losing their "innocence" [sp?]
And... if you try to protect them from it, it wont be for long.

Stupid kids.
Nowadays a majority of.. But not all
8, 9, 10, 11, yr old girls dress like sluts and act all hardcore punk, or gangster.
8 - 11 yr old boys act big for their age, acting like they know everything and can beat the shizz out of you.

Makes me sad.

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