criticism, how well can you take it? Options

[queen]

so yah, it's no news that there's a lot of drama going around, especially because people confuse constructive criticism with blatant ignorance. the object of constructive criticism is to better the quality of one's work; that is the only reason why such a form of criticism exists. any other form of criticism or opinions stated without facts/experience/plausible reason behind it is plain ignorance, of which, too often, we are guilty.

there's a lot of unnecessary drama going on, but i know all of us are guilty of being amused by it at some point. it just gets annoying when everyone jumps on the bandwagon hating on a specific someone. if it started out between two people, then it should end between two people. everyone else who joins in on the argument is guilty of the hypocrosy s/he writes about because essentially s/he is just fueling the anger.

people state their opinions in different ways. some people happen to be more blunt, more honest, more "bitchy" as you say, than others. it's really not your problem how they get their points across; you do not need to get involved in the matter. you also have to keep in mind not everyone will approach everything in a happy-go-lucky way.

when it does involve you, you can still choose to ignore whatever criticism was given to you. if you know that person can be harsh in making constructive criticism, then skip his/her comment, for crying out loud ;x. it's also greatly annoying when you change the subject matter to something utterly childish. a mature debate/argument is done without making personal attacks against each other that has nothing to do with what you were arguing about in the first place. if you started out talking about a layout, then end it there. you don't need to go on about the person's "attitude" 'cause it has no relevence whatsoever to the original argument.

it also doesn't help your argument when you talk about one's grammatical errors. i can guarantee no member of createblog has perfect grammar. if you can't diagram the sentence, then it's not correct, and i've seen a whole lot of un-diagrammable sentences out there. no one has right to talk shit about anyone's grammar unless all your posts are perfectly diagrammable.

those are my thoughts ;p so...how well can you take criticism?

[StarryEyedSurpri...]

yeah i agree with everything you say 100%

[DrEaMgUy2K1]

i bet u didnt even read it... or else u would have gave ur own response ><;

[StarryEyedSurpri...]

actually yeah i did...

[Spirited Away]

it also doesn't help your argument when you talk about one's grammatical errors.  i can guarantee no member of createblog has perfect grammar.  if you can't diagram the sentence, then it's not correct, and i've seen a whole lot of un-diagrammable sentences out there.  no one has right to talk shit about anyone's grammar unless all your posts are perfectly diagrammable.

those are my thoughts ;p  so...how well can you take criticism?

Criticisms aren't bad when they're constructive, I agree, but we may hold different opinions on what is constructive.

Grammar mistakes are the funkiest kind of criticism on this board because sometimes they're true and needed to be said and sometimes they're just mean and unneccessary. I don't like it when a person doesn't even think about what he/she is writing and expects me/someoneone else to read it. It's ridiculous. I care about opinions and try to read everyone's, but when the person don't care to write in a way others can understand, their opinions are worthless.

Me? I don't care much. It gets funny sometimes and I laugh it off. The only time I care is if a person knows me personally or is intelligent enough to base their critique on something valid.

[*[2]Nekked*]

i admit, i dont take criticism very well if its coming from someone with less experience than me. you can probably figure out who the few people are that i take criticism from.. queentot being one of them, my old hostess, chrissy, most of my hostees on raw-intent, etc...

I guess it's just that... if i know you are less experienced than i am, then it's hard for you to judge what direction i was trying to go in, in terms of design and theme. So when someone criticizes me about something that looks a bit out of the norm; when that was the entire point of the design, i just sort of get aggrivated, because in my mind, thats just sort of ignorant.

criticism that steers the designer away from her actual theme/design is not applicable criticism, in my opinion.

anyways, i agree with queentot. there are different ways to go about criticizing other people... i tend to just get to the point and say it as bluntly as i can, because in my opinion, theres no use dancing around the issue. to my knowledge, i have never purposely insulted anyone's work, but only try to give them suggestions, and point out what could be worked on..

when you post your xanga up in xanga showcase, you have to expect this kind of critique, among others. that's what showcase is. it's not the forum u goto for an ego boost. not everyone is going to agree with everyone else when they say its perfect. no design is ever perfect. there's always something that you can add or work on, and i just try to point out the ones that are most obvious to me.

just try not to take it so personally. it really has nothing to do with my attitude. im just trying to be helpful. you can either take my advice, or ignore it. it's your choice, and i'm not trying to force my opinions on anyone, so just keep that in mind.

[wayne]

critisims cant be stopped, if u cant take critisism well, then too bad (im not pointing this at anyone...) it helps others get better, and unless u make a rude, stubborn, ignorant comment, then critisism is good.

[queen]

yah, trishtot. i think the suggestions you made on xanga showcase were valid. everything just got hyped up when people started mentioning your "attitude" or "reputation" or whatnot. people expect too many applauses these days. criticizm will appear in many different forms, yet they fail to see yours were actually constructive... then again i guess it's just a difference in opinion like what uninspiredfae said:

Criticisms aren't bad when they're constructive, I agree, but we may hold different opinions on what is constructive.

yes, people have differences in opinion about what is "constructive", but there are still some clear cut examples out there. i mean it's kind of obvious if the person's just trying to put you down or is actually giving his/her honest opinion on something.

Grammar mistakes are the funkiest kind of criticism on this board because sometimes they're true and needed to be said and sometimes they're just mean and unneccessary. I don't like it when a person doesn't even think about what he/she is writing and expects me/someoneone else to read it. It's ridiculous. I care about opinions and try to read everyone's, but when the person don't care to write in a way others can understand, their opinions are worthless.

well, i wasn't referring to the comments regarding those wh0 typ3 lykE diS, but those who criticize people's grammar, even though his/her grammar isn't perfect either. for example: anyone who chooses to criticize my reluctance to use proper capitalization. ;x

[Spirited Away]

well, i wasn't referring to the comments regarding those wh0 typ3 lykE diS, but those who criticize people's grammar, even though his/her grammar isn't perfect either. for example: anyone who chooses to criticize my reluctance to use proper capitalization. ;x

Well, I would call that funky and unneccessary. I don't have a problem grammar unless I have a seriously problem of understanding what's being said. I understand you just fine.

[angel-roh]

hmm even tho i read this, but i still dont get it... but as i read some ppls post, i still couldnt get what u're guys talking about... but it sounded like a debate to me...

[sunissed14127]

i admit that i dont take crtisism too well.....especially if i kno more about it than u do,like trish said.there is a boy who is in my art class,and he goes around critisizing EVERYONE's work.so one day i got sick of it,so when he came by me and said something i was like ok,thats ur opinion.in art,we all have different prespectives/ideas so u need 2 back off!!.....he doesnt critisize me anymore lol....

[x emo screamo x]

so yah, it's no news that there's a lot of drama going around, especially because people confuse constructive criticism with blatant ignorance. the object of constructive criticism is to better the quality of one's work; that is the only reason why such a form of criticism exists. any other form of criticism or opinions stated without facts/experience/plausible reason behind it is plain ignorance, of which, too often, we are guilty.

there's a lot of unnecessary drama going on, but i know all of us are guilty of being amused by it at some point. it just gets annoying when everyone jumps on the bandwagon hating on a specific someone. if it started out between two people, then it should end between two people. everyone else who joins in on the argument is guilty of the hypocrosy s/he writes about because essentially s/he is just fueling the anger.

people state their opinions in different ways. some people happen to be more blunt, more honest, more "bitchy" as you say, than others. it's really not your problem how they get their points across; you do not need to get involved in the matter. you also have to keep in mind not everyone will approach everything in a happy-go-lucky way.

when it does involve you, you can still choose to ignore whatever cricism was given to you. if you know that person can be harsh in making constructive criticism, then skip his/her comment, for crying out loud ;x. it's also greatly annoying when you change the subject matter to something utterly childish. a mature debate/argument is done without making personal attacks against each other that has nothing to do with what you were arguing about in the first place. if you started out talking about a layout, then end it there. you don't need to go on about the person's "attitude" 'cause it has no relevence whatsoever to the original argument.

it also doesn't help your argument when you talk about one's grammatical errors. i can guarantee no member of createblog has perfect grammar. if you can't diagram the sentence, then it's not correct, and i've seen a whole lot of un-diagrammable sentences out there. no one has right to talk shit about anyone's grammar unless all your posts are perfectly diagrammable.

those are my thoughts ;p so...how well can you take criticism?

Why am I guilty of being amused by it?
I'm not the only one who finds it funny...
but otherwise I agree with you.

[PinkTrash]

Yeah, starting shit with people isnt cool. It doesnt make you cool, or look cool -.- A lot of people do that.. and its really stupid. We should debate maturely.. I mean you dont see Bush and Kerry correcting each others grammar mistakes =/

[x emo screamo x]

I mean you dont see Bush and Kerry correcting each others grammar mistakes =/

That would be funny if they did though! lol

[xox Qt LuVZ xox]

Yeah, I agree... It makes much more sense just to ignore whatever critisizm (not constructive) instead of making it a big deal.

But I admit, it's really hard to ignore it, if someone says something totally uncalled for.

[dreamerOi]

used to take criticism pretty badly but now im just okay whatever shrugg hahaa.

[PinkTrash]

yes =] calmm toi, then move on and ignore x]

[dani41790]

hmm i can take criticism pretty well. i usually only criticise back if im pissed or something

[*[2]Nekked*]

hmm even tho i read this, but i still dont get it... but as i read some ppls post, i still couldnt get what u're guys talking about... but it sounded like a debate to me...

haahahahahhahaahhahaahha

[Winter]

I take criticism pretty well. I began receiving constructive criticisms every since I started graphic designing. And it's really helped and tought me a lot.

I don't get pissed of or anything if someone does it straight forwardly. But I do get pissed off when someone says 'It sucks' without even saying why.

[sweetdreamsx3]

Depends on what the person is criticizing on. If it's my designs, then yeah I can accept that because of their comments, you can improve your graphics. The person might have greater skills than you and by their comments that you might find offensive, it helps you in a way.

[imafreakinazn]

i can handle it pretty well. it's fun to give constructive criticism. that's basically saying "say what you want to them and they can't get mad!" lol.

[pbear]

i don't take plain criticism well at all. that's why i avoid showing people my work, or flaunting things, because i can't take it when they have something non-complimentary to say about it. i can take constructive criticism fairly well.

[juliar]

Usually, when people constructively criticize me, i'm just like hey, ok, i dont care thanks for the advice ok.

but if theyre like
YO THATS SO UGLAY! or like
ew thats sucky.

then i get mad.

[acidbreeze]

I don't like criticism.
I also don't like being complimented, congratulated, or cheered for.

[queen]

I don't like criticism.
I also don't like being complimented, congratulated, or cheered for.

how interesting ;P

...anyway, this topic has been pushed to like the 3rd page, and i'd just like to add a little more:

i personally think people who agree/disagree with something just to get on someone's good side are idiots ';X criticism should be formed from personal opinion based on facts, not popular viewpoints.

yes, we all know it happens, but it's no reason to think that anyone who agrees with anyone is doing it for the sole purpose of kissing ass, especially when there are valid points being made. -cough- i think you all know what i'm talking about ;o

[sporadic]

I take criticism badly.. I hate being wrong..

[melface]

how interesting ;P

...anyway, this topic has been pushed to like the 3rd page, and i'd just like to add a little more:

i personally think people who agree/disagree with something just to get on someone's good side are idiots ';X  criticism should be formed from personal opinion based on facts, not popular viewpoints.

It's only made it to the second page... and I agree with what you said... in this post, anyway.


Yeah, I am one that criticizes... I honestly don't care what anyone else thinks of me... Call me a bitch. That doesn't faze me. Go ahead and criticize me... doesn't matter, really... but sometimes I do find myself questioning the things that they've pointed out... but I deal. I know that I will never change who I am just to please others. If I do find that what they've pointed out has a valid reason, then sure... I may consider it, but only for MYSELF.





Umm, about the grammar thing... It's just to help THEM out... Why should everyone parade around the forums talking like idiots? Are they going to be talking like that the rest of their lives? I'm sick of the 17 year olds typing as if they were still 12... And I'm sick of the 12 year olds taking their age as an excuse for their bad spelling/grammar. Are you NOT in school? How do you manage staying in school typing like THAT?

Anyway, I'm done with this thread.

[*[2]Nekked*]

bump^^

if you ARE going to criticize someone then at least make it helpful. dont just say "ew it looks weird" or "she looks like a man" because that doesnt really help the artist does it? explain your reasons for saying that, and possible ways to fix it in the future. if you DONT know how to fix it, then refrain from saying anything at all, because they its just aggrivating. then its not constructive criticsm any longer. then it's just insulting.

[*Weird addiction*]

omg i hate been critisized i hate being wrong!! i hate it but i love when im cheered,hehe

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[waccoon]

As long as it's constructive and not "ew wtf its ugly" I take it fine. Improving is always good.

[scandalous_chic]

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[*[2]Nekked*]

we're talking about people wh0 typ3 lyk d1s!!!!!1!1!!11oneone

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[Heathasm]

umm, i take it very well, i think
im usually pretty aware of the mistakes i make in my work
but i miss things too
if some one said to me "that sucks" i would bitch at them
if some one said "thats good" id leave it alone
i dont know if thats being a hypocrite, i guess saying it sucks is more offensive, and why the hell wouldn't i defend my work to such a stupid and undescriptive comment like that
its all a matter of respect for the work and artist i think...if the artist expresses how they feel about critisism when posting their work just abide by it or dont say any thing at all...

[Edele]

It depends on who's criticizing me, and on what.

[CrimsonXero]

I accept criticism but you know if its stuff like... "Ew that's so stupid. You suck. I hate you." I tend to get really annoyed. I do my best to either use criticism to my advantage, or just forget it.

[*[2]Nekked*]

dont you get sick of saying "i know. i did that on purpose." over and over again?

i swear, people, i mean if you know you really have no clue what you're talking about, then just dont say anything because you're going to end up looking like an idiot, and pissing the designer off.

[Spirited Away]

Not everyone is a genius, sweetheart.

It shouldn't take a genius to spell correctly for at least one full sentence. Sure typos can happen, but if someone is making "typos" every other word, then he/she should take keyboarding class.

I don't criticize people for misspelled words until the comment just doesn't make sense because of the wad of spelling/grammar mistakes.

[xpLiCitsmuRfette]

i personally think people who agree/disagree with something just to get on someone's good side are idiots ';X criticism should be formed from personal opinion based on facts, not popular viewpoints.

yes, we all know it happens, but it's no reason to think that anyone who agrees with anyone is doing it for the sole purpose of kissing ass, especially when there are valid points being made. -cough- i think you all know what i'm talking about ;o

OMFG i hate asskissers! when will the get sick of the taste of ass. we have some examples here on cb of topics that separate the asskissers from the real people who can voice their opinions(who usually get pwned by the mass number). uhh ok off topic. hrm criticism. im ok with it because I'm up for making a layout or vexel better? well sometimes i take it badly when its from someone that I dont really like in the first place. Actually no, I lied. Id get upset if someone told me my work is wrong. Not like me using the wrong term or way for it but like me "wasting my time" on something. Every artist with their own colors and techniques and opinions right? Geez not everyone is going to be happy with your end product of anything. Anyways you can always ask me for constructive criticism :]

[happygoluckyng]

I was too lazy to read all that....but let me tell you how I can take critisism ......I can't.

[*stephinika*]

well it all depends on who its from and how its delivered. if its done completely negatively and just putting me down, then yeah i get pissed off. if its done maturely and in a proper way then yeah, i appreciate it.

[xj_liana_tx]

i dont take critisicism well, i try to act like i take it well and cool n everything, but really i was goin "wtf #$*@^%", well its like a confidence attack.

[Shattered_Hope]

i have to take it. i cant stop wahts coming out of the other person's mouth.

[vehvih]

Criticism that isn't constructive doesn't upset me, but pisses me. Sometimes I do not answer since it's really stupid and a waste of time, but when I answer, my answer has its own reasons.